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          [Airport Advisory Board on Oct 09, 2025.]
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          CONJUNCTION WITH THE 185 EXEMPTION. AND SO I BELIEVE WHAT THAT REFERS TO IS A COST SHARING WITH THE POA, WHERE IN THE PAST THE POA IS OFFERED MAINTENANCE FUNDS TO THE CITY AS A COST SHARING BENEFIT TO THE CITY, AND THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON PAUSE. AND SO. THE THE SECTION 185 EXEMPTION IS AN FAA EXEMPTION THAT THE CITY HAS REQUESTED RECENTLY, HAS SENT ANOTHER LETTER IN REQUESTING THAT WE GAIN THAT GRANDFATHERED EXEMPTION FROM FAA, AS EVERYONE I'M SURE IS AWARE, FAA IS PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS ALL ENTIRELY ON PAUSE. 
          THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN, SO THERE'S BEEN NO COMMUNICATION IN THE LAST WEEKS WITH FAA. THEY SEND OUT AN INVITATION FOR MYSELF AND SHANE TO MEET WITH THEM, AND WE ASK FOR A SCHEDULE FOR THAT MEETING RIGHT BEFORE RIGHT BEFORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN. 
          IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR REQUEST. IT WAS COINCIDENTAL. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. THANK YOU. 
          SO. SO WE'LL WAIT PATIENTLY FOR THE THE LEGISLATURES TO REOPEN THE GOVERNMENT AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN'T COME TO A QUICK CONCLUSION. ANY ANY COMMENTS ON THAT DISCUSSION? DID DID YOU CIRCULATE THAT LETTER, THE RECENT LETTER. DID THEY GO TO THE WHOLE COMMITTEE? IT DID, IT DID. THIS WAS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. I CAN SEND YOU A COPY IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. HOPEFULLY IT'S IN YOUR INBOX. I HOPE YOU. THANK YOU. OH, I DIDN'T CALL IT. CITY. CITY MANAGER SENT THAT OUT WITHOUT EDITS. SO WHAT YOU HAVE AS A FINAL DRAFT IN YOUR INBOX IS ACTUALLY WELCOME TO THE DEVELOPMENT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION ITEMS AROUND THAT? I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO THANK CHARLES, FOR TAKING A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN FORWARDING THAT LETTER. GOOD ON YOU. THANK YOU CHARLES. I WOULD MENTION, JUST FYI, THE THIS TOPIC IS ON THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL AGENDA AGAIN THIS COMING THURSDAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND WE WE HAVE SAID TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE'RE AVAILABLE. ANY OF US ARE POTENTIALLY ALL OF US. IF THE CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS OUR SUPPORT IN A COUNCIL MEETING, WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY TO TO BE THERE IN PERSON TO, TO SUPPORT ANY AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE, THAT WHERE WE CAN BE ASSISTANCE SEPARATELY FROM THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE PO MANY TIMES IS PRESENT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND IS IT COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THIS MEETING. THEY MAY CHOOSE TO BE. WHILE I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE OUR LIAISON COMMITTEE, OUR LIAISON COMMITTEE, TO TAKE THIS DISCUSSION ITEM. AND TAKE IT TO TO TO TAKE IT ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM WITH THE PO. WHAT, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THIS IS A COMMITTEE NUMBER FIVE, KRISTEN AND LINDA IS THAT YOU CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MEMBERS OF THE POA BOARD AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN LEARN, MAYBE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW OR WHAT COUNCIL KNOWS, MAYBE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT AND BRING A REPORT BACK TO THE GROUP. OKAY. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO BRING A COUPLE OF THINGS IN WRITING FORWARD ON THAT ITEM. 
          ALSO ONE FROM OUR AIRPORT ACTION PLAN THAT'S BECOMING A LITTLE OUTDATED. IT'S TEN YEARS OLD. IT'S FROM 2015. THE VERY LAST PARAGRAPH OF OUR AIRPORT ACTION PLANS ON PAGE 28. NOT THAT NOT THE LAST PAGE OF THE WHOLE ACTION PLAN, BUT THE LAST PAGE ABOUT THE POA. 
          PARAPHRASING SLIGHTLY JUST FOR BREVITY'S SAKE, THE RAPOSA HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN KEEPING THE AIRPORT OPEN. NOT ONLY DID THEY PROVIDE FOR FUNDING FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OVER THE AIRPORT, BUT THEY CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD AND HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITIES AT THE AIRPORT. AS THE AIRPORT CONTINUES TO GROW, THE CITY TAKES ON MORE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT AND THE CITY TAKES ON MORE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT. THE ROLE OF THE RA POA WILL DIMINISH, BUT ITS INVOLVEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO BE CRUCIAL TO THE AIRPORT'S SUCCESS. WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO HERE IS BE AS RESPONSIVE AS WE CAN TO THE REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME TO THIS BOARD FROM CITY COUNCIL, SO THE REQUEST THAT CAME FORWARD THAT WE HAVE THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR WAS TO UNDERSTAND THE POSTURE OF THE RA POA'S COST SHARING EFFORTS 
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WITH THE CITY. AND SO THE SECOND THING THAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD TO THIS BOARD IS A LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 27TH, 2023. THAT WAS THE LETTER INFORMING THE CITY FROM THE RA OPOA THE REASONS BEHIND WHY THE RA NEEDED TO STAND BACK FROM CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY. 
          WHILE THE CITY AND THIS BOARD MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN TO SECURE THE SECTION 185 EXEMPTION. THE MOST CRUCIAL PART OF THAT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM IS THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THAT LETTER. IT SAYS. FINALLY, THE RA POA LOOKS FORWARD TO THE FAA SLASH TEX DOT CONCURRENCE OF THE SECTION 185 EXEMPTION FOR THE AIRPORT, AND AT THAT TIME, THE RA POA WILL PARTNER WITH CITY LEADERSHIP TO DEFINE A NEW PATH FORWARD IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S AIRPORT MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES. I READ THAT IN FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE HERE. SO THEY HAVE THAT BIG OVERVIEW IN MIND IN TALKING WITH THE POA TO BE ABLE TO BRING INFORMATION BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND MYSELF, FROM POA DISCUSSIONS, THE POA HAS MET ABOUT THIS AND WANTS TO BE RESPONSIVE AND NOT GET CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED WHEN THE CITY HAS ACHIEVED THE GOALS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF IT. FOR THE SECTION 185 EXEMPTION, BUT ACTUAL OFFICIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA ARE SOMETHING THAT ARE GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THIS SUBCOMMITTEE HERE TO STRUCTURE THOSE AND GET THAT INFORMATION PACKAGE BACK FOR COUNCIL. SO GREAT. JIM OR JAMES, CAN YOU PLEASE SEND A COPY OF THAT NOVEMBER 2023 LETTER? FEEL LIKE YOU GOT A HEAD START RIGHT THERE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND JAMES, IF YOU THINK I HAVE THE LAST PARAGRAPH MEMORIZED. YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MIND, JAMES, YOU YOU BRING UP THE AIRPORT, THE, THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING FIRM, I BELIEVE. CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST PROVIDE A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW. THE WHEN THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED. 
          AND BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND IT'S GOTTEN LOST IN THE SHUFFLE OVER THE YEARS, I THINK IT HAS. SO 2015, 2016 WAS THE TIME FRAME FOR OUR CURRENT AIRPORT ACTION PLAN. 
          AIRPORT ACTION PLANS AS AN OVERVIEW ARE ESSENTIAL FOR A MUNICIPALITY'S ABILITY TO GARNER GRANT FUNDING. LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SECTION 185 EXEMPTION. SO FUNDING ENTITIES TEX, DOT, FAA, ETC. ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THAT AIRPORT ACTION PLAN TO BE WORKED AND TO BE UPDATED TIME TO TIME. SERVICE LIFE IS GENERALLY LONGER THAN TEN YEARS, BUT BY THE TIME WE GET A DECADE IN LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, YOU DO FIND SOME THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, RIGHT DOWN EVEN TO THE PO RELATIONSHIP THAT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY IN 2019. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOST RECENT PO TO CITY OF LAGO VISTA FUNDING AGREEMENT. SO SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, THERE IS A STEP OFF THAT PROCESS WHEN IT OCCURRED, INVOLVED MEMBERS OF THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD, INVOLVED OUR CITY'S DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, WHO AT THE TIME WAS ACTING AS OUR AIRPORT SUPERINTENDENT. THOSE ROLES HAVE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE YEARS. WE'VE SEEN AN ABSENCE OF AIRPORT MANAGEMENT. WE'VE SEEN AIRPORT MANAGEMENT UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          WE'VE SEEN AIRPORT MANAGEMENT MOSTLY HANDLED BY CITY MANAGERS, AS THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. SO IT WAS A BASICALLY AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OF AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD, CITY COUNCIL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT WHO OUR CITY HIRED WHO FORMULATED THAT AIRPORT ACTION PLAN. AND FOR THE MOST PART, MANY THINGS WERE GOTTEN CORRECT. AND THERE ARE STILL VERY ACTIONABLE ITEMS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE UP AND WORK TO THIS DAY FROM THAT ACTION PLAN. THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I THINK JUST JUST TO CLOSE OUT THIS DISCUSSION ITEM, THAT ACTION PLAN NEEDS TO BE REVISITED AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING. POTENTIALLY WE'LL WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THAT IF IF THE SEQUENCE HAPPENS WHERE WE, THE CITY GETS THE 185 EXEMPTION AND, AND THEN WE MOVE CLOSER TO THE TEXDOT RUNWAY TAXIWAY REFURBISHMENT PROGRAM. THEN SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIME FRAME BEFORE THE DESIGN OR DURING THE DESIGN OF THAT, MAYBE WE'LL ASK THE CITY IF THEY WERE READY TO BRING A CONSULTANT BACK AND RECONVENE THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE AND UPDATE THE THE THE ACTION PLAN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. ALSO, I HAVE ONE THING THAT WE CAN CARRY BACK HISTORICALLY ABOUT FORMING AGREEMENTS WITH THE RA POA HISTORICALLY, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE RA POA, HELPING THE CITY SUPPORT THE AIRPORT, IT WAS DONE BY EXTREME TRANSPARENCY. FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, THE CITY TOOK ON AN AIRPORT, BASICALLY SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING OR THE CAPABILITY TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THIS THING. WE'RE GOING TO RIP OPEN THE THE BANK ACCOUNT, AND WE'RE GOING TO 
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HAVE TO TRY TO GET OUR MINDS AROUND WHAT THIS TAKES. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A FEW YEARS. 
          SO IN THE FIRST AGREEMENT WAS FORMULATED, THE CITY HAD ALREADY BEEN IN OWNERSHIP OF THE AIRPORT FOR A FEW YEARS, AND RESPONSIBILITIES HAD BEEN PASSED BACK AND FORTH. BUT THE INITIAL TEN YEAR AGREEMENT FROM 1999 TO 2009, AND ALSO THE NEXT AGREEMENT FROM OH 9 TO 19, WERE DONE BY EXTREME TRANSPARENCY FROM A CITY STANDPOINT ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL EXPENSES FOR THE AIRPORT HAD BEEN. SO THERE WOULD BE CITY STAFF, POSSIBLY A DELARGEY OR NUMBERS OF DELEGATES FROM CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD, WHO WOULD COME TOGETHER AND MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS THE CITY'S REAL, ACTUAL COSTS OF THINGS AT THE AIRPORT AND THEN BE ABLE TO DIVVY UP WHO WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE. WHAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HISTORICALLY IN THIS CAN GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. $18,000 FROM THE POA PER YEAR FROM OH 9 TO 19 OR, EXCUSE ME, FROM 99 TO OH NINE, AND THEN 20,000 PER YEAR FROM OH 9 TO 19, THEN 23,400 PER YEAR FROM 2019 TO 2023. FROM 2024, WHEN THE AGREEMENT EXPIRED. SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T COME FROM THIN AIR. THEY BECAME VERY EASY TO DRILL DOWN FROM LOOKING AT THE CITY'S ACTUAL EXPENSES FOR THE AIRPORT. UNFORTUNATELY, STARTING AT ABOUT THE TIME OF THAT LAST AGREEMENT, THE TRANSPARENCY FROM HAVING A PROACTIVE STAFFER AT CITY COMING FORWARD TO THIS ADVISORY BOARD OR TO THE POA TO DISCUSS CITY EXPENDITURES, BASICALLY VAPORIZED. SO WHAT WE'VE WATCHED HAPPEN THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF TIME WAS A LACK OF AIRPORT LEADERSHIP BETWEEN 2017 AND 2021 TO KEEP THAT SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY MOVING FORWARD, AND IT MADE THE ACCOUNTING MORE DIFFICULT. SO FROM MY POSITION AND OUR FUNDING AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO UNEARTH THE PAST SIX YEARS OF EXPENSES. FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT USED TO BE BECAUSE FORTUNATELY, THE CITY TOOK OVER FUEL OPERATIONS IN 2019. SO OUR ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE AT THE AIRPORT FUND, THEY BECOME SIMPLER IF YOU TAKE ALL THE FUEL EXPENSES OUT. BUT WITH THOSE IN THERE, WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF LINE ITEMS, IF NOT THOUSANDS, COMPARED TO WHAT USED TO BE 15 TO 20 LINE ITEMS A YEAR. SO DIGGING INTO THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. THERE ARE A FEW EXPENSES JUST LOOKING AT BUDGET DOCUMENTS THAT YOU CAN PULL FROM THE CITY WEBSITE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE CITY GET AHOLD OF, TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE POA WITH AN APPROPRIATE ASK. 
          SO NUMBER ONE, WE GOT WE HAD TO BACK OUT ALL THE FUEL REVENUE AND THEN LOOK AT WHAT'S LEFT. 
          THINGS LIKE BANK CHARGES THAT FOR 2021 TO 2022 ACTUAL WERE $8,933 FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, $6,800 FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, 7600. YOU'RE READING ACTUALS OR BUDGET. THESE ARE THESE ARE ACTUALS. SO THESE BANK CHARGES $8,900. THESE ARE BANK CHARGES IN THE TUNE OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. WE HAVE TELEPHONY AND INTERNET THAT FLOATS ANYWHERE BETWEEN $2700 AND $3500 FOR THREE, $25 A MONTH. SO SOME OF THOSE BANK CHARGES, CREDIT CARD CHARGES, PROBABLY SO. AND SO THEY SHOULD BE OFFSET BY FUEL REVENUE. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL. THERE YOU GO. DRILL DOWN TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT. THAT IS REALLY WHAT THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. IT SHOWS. IT SHOWS UGLY. BUT WE NEED TO IT NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED. SO YOU GUYS YOU GUYS ARE A GOOD SOURCE OF FUEL FOR THAT CHARGE. CORRECT. SO THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED AND SHOULD WASH. THE ISSUE HAS SIMPLY BEEN THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD CITY STAFF ONLY UNTIL THE MOST RECENT. CALL IT SIX MONTHS, WHO ARE PROACTIVELY AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION, PULL THOSE NUMBERS DOWN AND BE ABLE TO SEPARATE THINGS APPROPRIATELY. 
          SO, MR. WEST, THE FUNDING AND FINANCE COMMITTEE ABLE TO DO THIS. MR. WEST, WHEN THE CITY CHARGE 3% ON THE ON WHEN THE CHARGE GOES THROUGH FOR $100, DO YOU GUYS CHARGE 103 AT THE AIRPORT? I BELIEVE THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. THERE IS A SIGN ON THE FUEL PUMP AND ON THE PILOT LOUNGE. WELL, I KNOW THE CITY WENT TO THAT ON ALL CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS. THEY HAD 3% TRANSACTION FEE. SO YOU'RE JUST ADDING 3% TO THE PRICE OF THE FUEL. YES. OKAY. AND IT SHOULD BE HAPPENING ACTUALLY. SO THAT SO THAT'S THAT'S COVERED. THAT'S COVERED BY THE 3%. IT SHOULD BE. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THIS TO MAKE THE CITY LOOK BAD. NO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BAD. 
          IT'S JUST FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES. IT LOOKS IT LOOKS LIKE THAT BUDGET SAYS THERE'S $8,900 EXPENDITURE. IF I WAS A CITIZEN LOOKING AT THAT, I'D SAY THERE'S $8,900 THAT THAT AIRPORT'S COSTING US. EXACTLY. AND IT'S NOT. YOU'RE MAKING THAT MONEY. YEAH. AND WE HAVE MANY THINGS IN THIS CITY BUDGET THAT LOOK THAT WAY TO THE CITIZENS. OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT BUDGETS THAT THEY WORK, THAT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO GIVE A GREAT SIMPLIFIED POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT MIGHT BE TWO PAGES OR THREE PAGES LONG FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE. I THINK THAT THIS BOARD HAS NO PROBLEM BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTING AND ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK WITH A REALISTIC ASK OF THE RADIO WHEN THE TIME COMES TO NEGOTIATE WHAT THE RA POA'S CONTRIBUTIONS MAY BE TO THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S ALL I'M GETTING TO WITH THAT. THERE ARE NUMBERS THAT ARE CONFUSING, AND THEY CAN'T BE UNCONFUSED WITHOUT THE 
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HELP OF STAFF. AND WE FINALLY HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD STAFF RIGHT NOW. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY POSITIVE THING. I CAN TELL YOU NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WILL BE A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT, BECAUSE THE AIRPORT IS GOING TO BE IN ITS OWN FUND, RIGHT? NOTHING ELSE IS GOING TO BE ADDED INTO IT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL THE EXTRAS. IT'LL BE. I DON'T I DON'T SEE MORE THAN 10 TO 15 LINE ITEMS ON THE AIRPORT. AND WHEN WOULD THAT TAKE EFFECT START. THAT WON'T BE UNTIL THE 2627 BUDGET, BECAUSE THE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT 26. NO. WE'RE WE'RE WE GO FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 30TH OKAY. SO GOT IT. WELL WITHOUT GETTING ANY FURTHER DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE ON THAT ONE, THAT'S JUST SORT OF THE, THE OVERVIEW. AND I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL TO GET THAT INFORMATION AGGREGATED AND SIMPLIFIED. BEFORE THE CITY COULD HAVE A FORMAL ASK OF THE RA BOA COUNCILMAN. DURBAN. YES. I JUST WANTED TO FOR ANYBODY THAT WASN'T AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS SOME POSITIVE STUFF, SAID IT WAS A CORRECTION OR ANYTHING. SO I DIDN'T BRING IT UP EARLIER. BUT IT PERTAINS TO THIS. AND THAT WAS. MAYOR SULLIVAN STATED THAT THE THAT TEX-DOT HAS $10 MILLION THAT THEY WANT TO SPEND ON OUR AIRPORT, AND HE ALSO SAID EVEN WITH A 10 TO 1 OR 90% FUNDING RATE, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A MILLION. AND YOU MENTIONED IN THE OLD DAYS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SPLIT BETWEEN THE THE, THE POA AND THE CITY CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. SO HOW HE'S JUST THREW THAT QUESTION OUT THERE. BUT YOUR FINANCE GROUP OUGHT TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT TOO, IN THERE WHILE YOU'RE MULLING ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A DURBIN. I LOOKED AT THAT. I CONVINCED THAT MEETING AND THE MAYOR WAS FOCUSED ON THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE WOULD BE COME FROM THE POA. WELL, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY, AGAIN, TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE IT. I THINK THAT A COMMITTEE WITHIN THE CITY SHOULD PRUDENTLY LOOK AT OTHER REVENUE SOURCES OTHER THAN JUST POA IS CERTAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE. NO IT ISN'T. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE. THE THE SPACE RENTAL, THE THE FUEL, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF THAT BASICALLY I THINK WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY WAS, EVEN IF WE GET A BUNCH OF FUNDING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG NUT TO PAY TO COVER OUR 10%. I THINK THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY. I THINK THAT THAT POINT IS WELL RECEIVED, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE NUMBERS THAT THE MAYOR GAVE AREN'T 100% ACCURATE, BUT THEY COULD HAPPEN FROM THIS BOARD'S PREVIOUS MEETING. OUR LIAISON, UNFORTUNATELY, WASN'T AT THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING. TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE UPDATE. THE ACTUAL NUMBERS WERE A VERY LOFTY 6.6 MILLION THAT TEX-DOT SAYS THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SPEND ON THIS AIRPORT IN FISCAL YEAR 28, SO THAT WILL START SOMETIME AFTER SEPTEMBER OF 27. 
          IT PUT THE CITY ON THE HOOK AT THAT POINT FOR 660,000, WHICH IT'S A BIT OF A JUMP FROM THERE UP TO A MILLION, BUT IT'S STILL A HUGE CHUNK. THE MAY ACTUALLY END UP BEING A SMALLER PROJECT. 
          10 MILLION CAN COME IN AT ONCE. SURE. SURE WOULD BE GREAT, WOULDN'T IT? WE'LL TAKE THAT UP FOR SURE AT FUNDING FINANCE. THANK YOU. KEEP IT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND. THANK YOU FOR THAT, JUDGE. APPRECIATE THAT. VERY GOOD CHRISTIAN. THAT THAT MAY BE THE REST OF YOUR REPORT. 
          I'LL JUST PLAY THIS BACK. VERY GOOD. SO ITEM FOUR TWO DISCUSS GRANT ASSURANCE REQUIREMENTS TO DETERMINE AIRPORT STATUS REMAINS IN GOOD STANDING. THERE'S AN INTERESTING POINT THAT WAS RAISED IN IN ONE OF THE COMMITTEES ABOUT THE GRANT ASSURANCES YOU HAVE AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE AGENDA TODAY, THE GRANT ASSURANCES THAT THESE ARE DATED MAY OF 2022. AND ONE, WHEN I BECAME PART OF THE ARB, WE WERE ON A PRIOR GRANT ASSURANCE WITH 34 MAYBE ASSURANCES OR 37. THERE'S ACTUALLY EVEN A NEWER GRANT ASSURANCE PACKET THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE THAT'S DATED APRIL OF 2025, AND IT HAS 40 OR 41 GRANT ASSURANCES. AND SO THE QUESTION THAT AROSE IS, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT I HAVE NOT FIRMED THIS UP. WE'LL DO THAT AS SOON AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OPENS BACK. BUT THE IN A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WHERE THE SPONSOR, THE AIRPORT SPONSOR THE CITY TAKES GRANT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IF IT'S A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT IN NATURE, THEN THE THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE 
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AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME BECOME PART OF THE CONTRACT. AND IF THE EITHER PARTY WANTS TO AMEND THE CONTRACT, IT CAN BE AMENDED. BUT ABSENT AN AMENDMENT, IT'S THE GRANT ASSURANCES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ARE IN IN USE AT THE TIME THAT ARE PART OF THE AGREEMENT. IN THIS CASE, THE THE GRANT ASSURANCES ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS. THE FAA UPDATES THEM WHEN IT'S NECESSARY. AND I BELIEVE WHAT FAA IS IS INSINUATED TO THE SPONSORED AIRPORTS IS THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE CONTRACT, THAT IT'S A IT'S A REGULATORY. DOCUMENT. AND WHEN THE REGULATION IS UPDATED, THE CONTRACTS AUTOMATICALLY UPDATED. SO I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY ON THAT SMALL POINT TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO THE 37, BUT BECAUSE OF THE UPDATES, WE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED FEDERAL MONEY IN SOME TIME NOW. SO SO IF IF YOU WANT TO GO ONLINE, YOU CAN SEE THE UPDATE TO THIS MAY 2022 SET THAT'S IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS TO APRIL OF 2025 WITH WITH A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL ASSURANCES. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S IN THIS ONE. I'M JUST GOING TO FLIP BACK AND CONFIRM. YES, ACTUALLY ITEM 37 DISADVANTAGED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. THAT DEFINITION HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT IN THE CURRENT FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION, WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION. AND SO OF COURSE, FOR FOR THE SAKE OF THIS CITY AND ITS AIRPORT, TEX-DOT WILL BE MAKING CONTRACTS FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES AND FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, AND THEIR DBE REQUIREMENTS WILL BE APPLIED WHICH WHICH FOLLOW FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. AND THEY'RE DB STATE DB REQUIREMENTS HAVE NOW CHANGED AS WELL. SO THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THEY HAVE BEEN SINCE 1980. THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. THERE MAY BE MORE AS WELL. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THEN IS ASK ONE OF THE COMMITTEES TO TAKE ON A REVIEW OF THE LATEST ASSURANCES AND IDENTIFY ANY THAT WE BELIEVE NEED TO BE UPDATED IN TERMS OF THE WAY THE CITY RUNS ITS AIRPORT, AND BRING THAT BACK AS A REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL. AND I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE THE RIGHT COMMITTEE TO TAKE THAT LEAD, AND THAT WOULD BE MYSELF AND JIMMY. DO YOU AGREE? YEAH. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ASSURANCES SPECIFICALLY CITY COUNCIL HAD QUESTIONS SURROUNDING GRANT ASSURANCE. NUMBER 24. DO WE KNOW IF THAT'S THE SAME 24 IN THIS PACKET AS WHAT THEY WERE? REFERRING TO? SINCE WE'VE HAD UPDATES, THEY WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT THEY TEND TO ADD TO THE BOTTOM SPIRIT SEEMS THE SAME AS WHAT THE DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL WAS. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO. OKAY. SO FEE AND RENTAL STRUCTURE AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE NEXT DISCUSSION. I GOT IT. SO IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON SPECIFICALLY ON ASSURANCES, LET'S MOVE TO FOUR THREE, DISCUSS THE ONGOING FEE AND RENTAL STRUCTURE FOR THE AIRPORT FACILITIES TO ENSURE THE AIRPORT IS OPTIMALLY SELF-SUSTAINING. I THINK THERE IS A AN IN-DEPTH REVIEW THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE HERE. WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THIS TOPIC THIS AFTERNOON, BUT WHAT WHAT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO IS UNDERSTAND THE COMPETITIVE NATURE WITH OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE AREA IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR TIE DOWN FEES ARE, RENTAL FEES, AND I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE FOR US TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF EVEN THE CITY HANGAR SPACE THAT MAY BE BUILT AND BECOME AVAILABLE IN THE COMING YEARS, AND WHAT THAT RENTAL STRUCTURE MIGHT LOOK LIKE. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES LIABILITY INSURANCE AND OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE WITH THE COST OF THE CAPITAL COSTS AND THE OPERATION COST OF THOSE HANGARS. SO I THINK THERE'S MAYBE TWO PARTS HERE. AND I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WE INITIALLY LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO GENERATE REVENUE FROM, AND THEN SECONDARILY START THE INVESTIGATION AS TO WHAT FUTURE RENTS, FUTURE TOTAL COSTS, CAPEX AND OPEX, AND THEN FUTURE RENTAL REIMBURSEMENTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR HANGAR SPACE. IS THAT DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? ANY ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THERE? I HAVE THAT 
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PRESENTATION WE MADE, THE ARB MADE BACK IN 2018 THAT WE DID A PLAN FOR PUTTING BOX HANGARS ON CITY PROPERTY AT THE SOUTH END OF THE AIRPORT, AND WE PUT TOGETHER A BUSINESS CASE FOR THAT BASED ON THE 9010 MONIES AND THE REVENUE GENERATED THEREIN, WE COULD CERTAINLY DUST THAT OFF AND UPDATE IT. NET NET, IT'S A IT'S A VERY SHORT PAYBACK FOR THE CITY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT THE PLAN HAD TWO PHASES. ONE WAS TO DO THAT AREA AND THEN LATER ON WOULD BE THE RAMP, AND THE CITY HAD ACQUIRED LOTS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALONG. BAQUET WHEN THOSE ARE ALL POPULATED WITH A PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF CERTAIN HANGARS SIZES FOR THE SUITABLE TO THE AIRPORT, THE REVENUE STRUCTURE FOR THE CITY GETS TO THE POINT WHERE THE AIRPORT REALLY IS SELF-SUSTAINING. IT DOESN'T. THE BUDGET. THE BUDGET IS NOT AS HIGH AS THE REVENUE WILL BE, AND THAT IS COMPLETELY ATTAINABLE. THAT WAS SET BACK. 
          I WAS THE CHAIR OF THE ADVISORY BOARD IN 18. THE THAT WAS SET BACK A LITTLE BIT AND WE GOT WE GOT PUSHED BACK BECAUSE THE CITY CAME OUT, THE ENGINEERS CAME OUT, TEXDOT CAME OUT AND TEXDOT SPOKE. TEXDOT CAME OUT, ENGINEERS LOOKED AT THE RUNWAY AND SAID, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, NOT A DIME GOES TO HELP YOU GUYS GET REVENUE PRODUCING HANGARS UNTIL YOU FIX THIS RUNWAY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. AT THAT TIME, EVERYTHING CRUMBLED WITH FUNDING AND WE WE THINGS HAVE BEEN DELAYED. SO WE'RE DIGGING OURSELVES OUT OF THAT, THAT DELAY, THAT HOLE WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE GET THEIR RUNWAY FIXED, CERTAINLY WE HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT FROM TEXDOT TO GET THAT. 
          THEY WANT TO SEE THE INVESTMENT MADE FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS BY THE CITY, BECAUSE IT MAKES THE AIRPORT COMPLETELY SELF-SUSTAINING. THE FUEL THERE'S THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS HANGARS, HANGARS, TIE DOWNS, SO STORAGE OF AIRCRAFT AND THEN FUELING OF AIRCRAFT. AND THERE WAS A PLAN FOR BOTH IN AT THAT TIME. AND IT'S A IT'S A GOOD STORY. IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE US A FEW YEARS TO GET THERE. YEAH. AND I THINK BASED ON THE OPPORTUNITIES TEXDOT IS PRESENTING TO US NOW FOR ADDITIONAL CAPITAL WORKS, WE'RE WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION PRETTY QUICKLY. AND I THINK THE QUESTION THAT, THAT WE SHOULD POSE TO TEXDOT IS, CAN WE WORK SOME OF THESE SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS IN PARALLEL? I LOVE IT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I CAN GO GRAB THOSE, YOU KNOW THAT THAT STUFF AND UPDATE IT A LITTLE BIT. GO GET SOME NEW NEW ESTIMATES OF COSTS FOR THOSE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH. AND, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY IN A CITY BUDGET IN 18 THAT THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME HAD IT HAD IN THE BUDGET TO THE 10% MONEY TO GO BUILD THOSE HANGARS, THEY WERE GOING TO BE NINE BOX HANGARS BUILT. 
          THE ENGINEER HAD ALREADY FILED THE PAPERWORK WITH THE FAA FOR THE VERTICAL SPACE SEPARATION ON THOSE LOTS. SO IT WAS IT WAS MOVING. WE JUST GOT WE GOT STYMIED. I WAS EFFECTIVELY READY TO LAUNCH, AND I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THE OTHER PROJECT YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS IN COMBINATION WITH THE RUNWAY REHABILITATION PROJECT READY TO LAUNCH. SO 18 AND 19 IN PIVOTAL YEARS, AND THE FOULING OF THE OF THE OF THE FAA FUNDING. BECAUSE CAUSED THAT TO GET EVERYBODY TO GO IN WHOA MODE. BUT YOU KNOW WE COULD BE THERE BY NOW IF WE HADN'T. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S STILL A GOAL FOR SURE IN THE MINDS OF TEXDOT. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN STEVE AND SHANE, I'LL SEND IT OVER. I'LL SEND IT OVER TO YOU GUYS FOR THE FINANCE TO FINANCE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, YOU GUYS CAN HAVE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO THE MATH ON IT, YOU'LL FIND THAT THE THE CITY ONCE ONCE WE NOW NOW THE TEXDOT HAS GRANTED SOME SOME MONIES TO COME ALONG. WE BELIEVE THAT'S ENOUGH TO FIX THE RUNWAY AND RUNWAYS AND TAXIWAYS. ONCE THAT'S FINISHED, WE GOT TO SORT OF GREASE THEM UP A LITTLE BIT, OR MAKE SURE THE TECH SIDE KNOWS OUR EXPECTATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO PURSUE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THOSE REVENUE PRODUCING INVESTMENTS. THIS IS MAILBOX MONEY FOR THE CITY. THIS IS NOT HEAVY MANAGEMENT BUSINESS. AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY THIS COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME, THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT BECAUSE THE CITY DOES VERY WELL WITH WITH WITH THAT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE HAS TO SIT IN AND HAVE TO MANAGE. THERE'S NO LIABILITY INSURANCES OF PEOPLE MOVING AIRPLANES OR DOING THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE THEY CAN DO DAMAGE. THIS IS THIS IS SOMEWHAT PASSIVE IN THAT, IN THAT ROLE. SO BUT THERE'S THERE'S PROPERTY THERE. THERE'S, THERE WAS A PLAN THERE. AND, AND THE AND THE REVENUE STRUCTURE WOULD BE. YOU KNOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO THE TUNE OF A MONTH AND A MONTH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WITH THAT AND FUEL SALES, THE THE AIRPORT BECOMES VERY, VERY MUCH A SUSTAINABLE ITEM. STEVE, YOU YOU JUST MENTIONED IT, BUT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT POTENTIALLY TEXDOT MIGHT SEE THE BENEFIT, SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT, IF WE CAN RUN THAT PARALLEL, BECAUSE CURRENTLY TEXDOT HAS SAID IT STARTS AT THE CENTERLINE OF THE AIRPORT AND WORKS OUT PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT A SIMILAR AND I AND I AGREE WITH THOSE PRIORITIES. BUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS, TO GET 
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THE MUNICIPALITY TO SPONSOR CASH NEUTRAL AT THIS AIRPORT, IN FACT CASH POSITIVE THROUGH A A GRANT, SOME GRANT MONEY IS GOING TOWARDS THOSE BOX HANGERS. IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T DISRUPT ANYTHING. IT DOES NOT DISRUPT ANY TRAFFIC. IT'S IT'S A STANDALONE. IT CAN BE DONE IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND IT ANSWERS TO THE CITY IMMEDIATELY. THOSE MONIES THAT CAN THEN BE BANKED FOR FUTURE MATCHING MONIES THAT THE CITY WOULD DESPERATELY NEED. SO I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU AND SHANE WITH YOUR CONTACTS AT TEXDOT TO SEE IF WE CAN RUN THAT PARALLEL. THANK YOU FOR THAT, JIM. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S ON MY MIND AND HOPEFULLY YOU AND GLENN WILL AGREE IN CONCEPT, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO PASS THIS ITEM NUMBER TO YOU AND THE CAPITAL WORKS COMMITTEE FOR RENTAL FEES AND STRUCTURE. BUT WHAT'S IN MY MIND IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE HANGARS IS TO ASK TEXDOT TO INCLUDE THE ENGINEERING WORK FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE TAXIWAY IN THIS CAPITAL WORKS PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED, AND TO INCLUDE THE DESIGN OF THE HANGAR PADS, AS WELL AS UTILITIES AND THE HANGARS THEMSELVES. GREAT IDEA AND THEN VERY EFFICIENT. IF WE NEED TO HOLD OFF ON CONSTRUCTION OF THEM, WE CAN. WE CAN INTRODUCE THAT AS A SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION ITEM IF THEY'LL ALLOW US TO CONSTRUCT IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME, ALL THE BETTER. BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR OUR CONCESSION AS WELL. WE'LL WE'LL WAIT TO GET THE SAFETY ISSUES RESOLVED AND THEN GO TO CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS WE CAN. I LIKE A COMBINATION PROJECT PROGRAM. AT THE TIME WE SCOPED THE RUNWAY COSTS BEFORE THE TXDOT, AND YOU KNOW THAT $6.6 MILLION EARMARK IS PROBABLY ENOUGH TO DO IT ALL. I WOULD BET YOU, BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD IN 2018 AND 19, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. AND I'LL I'LL TAG ON FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS AND METRICS. GRANTED, THESE ARE SIX YEAR, SEVEN YEAR OLD NUMBERS ON THAT PROJECT. AT THE TIME WE WERE TALKING NINE BOX HANGARS. THAT MARKET RENT ON AT THE TIME WOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN $600 A MONTH. THAT MAY BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT NOW. WE WOULD NEED TO DO A MARKET SURVEY TO ASSESS THAT WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE SCOPE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. THAT BEING SAID, NINE BOX HANGERS, 600 A MONTH, $54,000 A YEAR. THE MATH WE DID WAS ABOUT AN 18 MONTH RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN THAT DAYS DOLLARS FOR THE CITY. IF THAT PROJECT WOULD HAVE LAUNCHED AND COMPLETED, OUR CITY WOULD HAVE HAD THAT MONEY EVERY YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR. FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'D HAVE 250,000 EXTRA DOLLARS SITTING IN THE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FUND, READY TO BE MATCHING FUNDS FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS. IT'S TERRIFYING THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS DIFFERENT THAN PAYOUT. YOU HAD A PAYOUT IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS, NOT A RETURN ON INVESTMENTS. OH, YEAH. WELL, THE THE COST, THE COST TO DO IT THE THE 10% COST, IT TOOK 18 TO 24 MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE, 18 TO 24 MONTHS FOR THE CITY TO, TO GET THAT MONEY, THOSE MONIES BACK. AND, AND THEN AT THAT FROM THAT TIME AT TIME WHICH WHEN THE MONEY WAS PAID BACK, THE COSTS WERE PAID BACK, THEN IT WAS 50 AT THAT TIME, 54,000. I RAN THE NUMBERS NOT LONG AGO BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS AGAIN. I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY AT THE CHAMBER, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST A PERSONAL CALL. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE THERE'S THERE'S IT'S SIGNIFICANT. THERE'S THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT SHORTAGE OF THAT TYPE OF STORAGE TODAY. 
          AND IT IS NO DOUBT THE NUMBERS WILL BE BETTER NOW. IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AT THE OTHER AIRPORT IN TRAVIS COUNTY, AND IT'S VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE ANYWHERE NEAR AUSTIN. SO THERE ARE SOME AIRPORTS THAT THAT LIKE GEORGETOWN THAT DO STILL RUN ON OLD SCHOOL, OLD SCHOOL NUMBERS. 
          IT'S PRETTY CHEAP, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON A IT'S A ABOUT AN EIGHT YEAR WAITING LIST. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE AND AND THAT'S ALL GOOD NEWS. SORRY, LINDA. YOU HAD SOME. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER TAKING WHEN WHEN YOUR PRESENTATION IS UPDATED AND MAKING A PRESENTATION TO THE NEW CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WILL BE COMING IN THE SECOND, THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT PRESENTATION WOULD BE VERY EFFECTIVE IN COMMUNICATING TO THE TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY THE NEW COUNCIL. SOME OF THE METRICS OF THE AIRPORT. AND IT'S CUSTOMARY FOR BOARDS TO GIVE ANNUAL REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE NORMAL SCHEME OF THINGS TO DO THAT. AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE SO IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION IF IT'S OKAY WITH OUR HEADS. YEAH. I'M IN. I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. I WOULD PROPOSE THIS IS A DIFFERENT TOPIC. BUT YES, IN SHORT, AND I THINK PROBABLY WE WANT A FULL BODIED PRESENTATION. SO IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING FROM 
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EACH OF THE COMMITTEES TO HELP BRING THE NEW COUNCIL ON BOARD. IT'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL WHEN TO BRING IT UP. SO I JUST NO, NO THAT'S FINE. IT'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE RIGHT NOW AGAIN RIGHT NOW WE'RE BACK. WE GOT TO GET SECTION 185 RESOLVED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT FUNDING IN PLACE AND FIX WHAT WAS UNDONE SEVEN YEARS AGO. 
          SIX YEARS AGO. JUST THE DEMAND FOR THE SPACE IS VERY HIGH. NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. EIGHT YEARS IS PROBABLY A GOOD APPROXIMATION, GLENN. AND YOUR FINGERS ARE ON THAT PULSE ABOUT AS WELL AS ANYONE UP HERE. BUT I'LL TELL YOU FROM EVIDENCE OF MY DAYTIME JOB, WHICH IS DESIGNING AND BUILDING BIG INFRASTRUCTURE, THE COST WILL ABSOLUTELY FLOOR YOU. THE THE INFLATIONARY COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION. SINCE I THINK I BUILT THE MOST RECENT HANGAR AT THE AIRPORT TO HAVE GONE RIGHT THROUGH THE CEILING, HAVE GONE RIGHT, SO THAT 6.6 MILLION MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONTINGENCY IN IT TO GET THAT WORK DONE. VERY GOOD. ANY ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? LET ME THEN JUST SUGGEST THAT CAPITAL WORKS COMMITTEE, WHICH WE LOOSELY DEFINE CAPITAL WORKS AS ON AIRPORT AND AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT AS OFF AIRPORT. SO SINCE THIS IS ON AIRPORT, THE ONGOING FEE AND RENTAL STRUCTURE OF THE AIRPORT FACILITIES, IS THAT SOMETHING, JIM, THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO TAKE ON WITH GLENN'S SUPPORT? I CAN HANDLE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. COMMITTEE NUMBER TWO IS SIGNED UP. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, DISCUSS THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE RUNWAY. SO THAT'S A IT'S A BROAD TOPIC AND THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT TO DISCUSS THERE. BUT SPECIFICALLY, I'LL TELL YOU THE REASON THAT THIS ITEM IS ON OUR BOARD AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON. THERE THERE WAS A PROPERTY I THINK REFERRED TO AS THE ANDERSON SUBDIVISION. IT'S THE CUL DE SAC TAXIWAY AREA THAT WAS ORIGINALLY 1 OR 2 LOTS IN WAS SUBDIVIDED INTO THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AS YOU SEE IT, AT THAT TIME, THE CITY REQUIRED PROBABLY TEXAS WATER QUALITY REQUIRED. THE INCLUSION IN THAT PLATTED SUBDIVISION, WATER QUALITY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND SO THERE ARE 211 DETENTION FACILITY SITS BENEATH THE F-4 PHANTOM AIRPLANE, THE JET. AND THE OTHER ONE IS JUST TO THE JUST TO THE EAST. SO AN INDIVIDUAL CAME TO THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD AND SPOKE WITH JIM AND I IN AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ACQUIRING THAT LOT. IT WOULD THE CITY BE WILLING TO SELL THE LOT TO A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL? NOW THAT I'M REFERRING TO, HE'S GOT A RETENTION POND ON IT. IT'S ALL IT'S ALL CONCRETE WALLS AND IT'S DUG OUT TO THE RETENTION POND. IT'S NOT THE ONE WITH THE F-4. THAT'S RIGHT. WITH THE PHANTOM ONE. IT'S THE OTHER ONE. YES, EXACTLY. SO IT'S THE RETENTION POND THAT DOESN'T CATCH ANY WATER. DOESN'T GET MUCH, DOESN'T CATCH MUCH WATER. SO THIS THIS INDIVIDUAL'S HAS COME TO US AND HE'S SUBSEQUENTLY OR ACTUALLY PRIOR TO TALKING WITH, WITH THE COMMITTEE SPOKE WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HEAD HERE. ERIC. SORRY, CHARLES. 
          WHAT'S ERIC'S LAST NAME? ZENO. ZENO. ERIC, ZENO AND ERIC REFERRED HIM BACK TO THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD AND TO THE PO. AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION WITH THE PO AS WELL. AND SO THE QUESTION HERE IS, WOULD THE ARB CONSIDER OR WHAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATION WOULD THE AB CONSIDER IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDING THE CITY TO SELL THE PROPERTY? AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION THIS AFTERNOON. BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT THAT. IF THERE'S ANY TALKING POINTS. CITY MANAGER, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT. VERY GOOD. MR. WEST. HAVE YOU HAD THAT? YOU'VE SEEN THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IT IS? YES, SIR. OKAY, COOL. AND SO SO IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL ALSO BOUNCE THAT INTO A COMMITTEE AND MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW I HAD A COMMENT. OH PLEASE COMMENT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN OVERALL OBJECTION TO TO CITY SELLING THAT. THERE'S WHAT'S WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY IF THEY SELL IT. WE SEE REVENUE REVENUE FROM SALE. AND THEY WOULD SEE SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY AT SOME POINT. AND THEY GIVE US A TAX, A PROPERTY TAX, PENNY. WHAT'S THE OTHER BENEFITS OF THE CITY TO SELL THAT PROPERTY. ANYBODY ELSE. ANY QUESTION. YEAH. NO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING I DON'T KNOW. THAT PERSON BUYS FUEL. NOW IF THEY HAVE AIRPLANES. YEAH. MAYBE BUYS GAS OKAY. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE THOSE 
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ARE SOME BENNIES I THINK THERE'S A THERE'S A SMALL MAINTENANCE ELEMENT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY AS WELL ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BEEN CONTINUOUSLY MAINTAINED. 
          WHAT CAN THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY SPANNING WITH A HANGAR. OH SO THERE'S IT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE USED AND IT'S PILINGS OR WHATEVER AND BUILD A HANGAR ON TOP OF. YEAH. AND IT'S STILL IT'S STILL A RETENTION POND. BUT YOU KNOW, BUILD A HANGAR ON TOP. 
          APPARENTLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AT THE POA LEVEL, ASK WHICH POA DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OPINE ON THAT TOPIC, IS THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHER PLACES, NOT AIRPORTS, WHERE A STRUCTURE WAS BUILT OVER THE TOP OF THAT TYPE OF DETENTION STRUCTURE, AND THAT THERE'S ENGINEERING THAT CAN BE DONE TO PROVE THAT IT CAN STILL BE MAINTAINED. I'M SURE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, WE TALKED ABOUT THE BENEFITS THAT IT COULD BE FOR THE CITY, THE DISADVANTAGES FOR THAT. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE WE GO ON THE LIST WITH WHO MAINTAINS CONTROL OF WHAT THE NECESSARY DRAINAGE IS. IF THAT WOULD TRANSFER OVER TO BEING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF A FUTURE PROPERTY OWNER, OR IF THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED. BUT YEAH, AND THAT'S THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION. I WOULD SAY THE OTHER DETRIMENT WOULD BE WHY NOW? WOULD IT BE WORTH MORE LATER? I MEAN, IS IT IS IT WHY, WHY, WHY NOW? I MEAN, WHY WHY WOULD YOU DO IT NOW? WHY NOW IS IS I LISTEN TO HIS PRESENTATION. THE GENTLEMAN WHO RAN THIS UP THE FLAGPOLE AS AN ENGINEER AND HIMSELF AND A SMART GUY, AND, I MEAN, IT'S TOTALLY THINKING OUT OF THE BOX. I LIKED IT WHEN I HEARD IT, AND I THOUGHT, CAN THIS REALLY BE DONE? OH, IT CAN BE DONE, YOU KNOW, AND IN LARGE IN NEW YORK CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, HIGH RISE BUILDINGS ARE BEING BUILT WITH STORM DRAINAGE AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THEIR BASEMENTS, THAT RETENTION POND DOESN'T COLLECT ANY WATER, NEVER HAS. YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD STILL IT WOULD STILL REMAIN A RETENTION POND. THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF MAINTAINING ONE. I THINK THAT WOULD I DON'T KNOW, YOU'D HAVE THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. BUT IT'S I THINK IT'S WORTHY THAT THE CITY OUGHT TO AT LEAST CONSIDER IT. AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE SAME AS MAINTAINING ANY OTHER RETENTION POND THAT SOMEBODY HAD ON THEIR BUSINESS, PROPERTY, OR ANYTHING ELSE AROUND THE CITY. IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T HAVE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUIRED FOR DRAINAGE TO DO THAT, SO THAT MAKES SENSE. WELL, THE OTHER AND CONCLUDE WITH THIS, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, WOULD THAT WOULD THAT PERSON THEN BE ELIGIBLE TO COME BACK INTO THE POE. BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. BUT. WELL, MY MY TONGUE IN CHEEK, ON MY TONGUE IN CHEEK ON THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH DOES THE CITY DOES THE CITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO HOW TO ENGINEER, SUPPORT, INSPECT AND KEEP AND MAINTAIN THAT? I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, MY RECENT EXPERIENCE SAYS THERE'S NOT THAT EXPERTISE AVAILABLE HERE. IT'S SOMEBODY'S GOING TO IF THEY SELL IT AND TRY IT WITH THE IDEA, SOMEBODY CAN BUILD ON IT. I, I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PEOPLE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO APPROVE A PLAN, A SITE PLAN. BUT WE'VE GOT EXPERTISE ON THE BOARD HERE THAT CAN CERTAINLY HELP SUPPORT THAT. SO CAN I, CAN I MAKE ANOTHER OFFER? SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I JUST WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT OUR BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, JORDAN STROHMEYER, IS HERE. OH GOOD. I MADE THE COMMENT RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER. SHE STARTED ONE DAY AND SO HERE YOU ARE BY HER. SO ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT AS LONG AS SHE'S HERE THAT YOU ALL COULD. OH GOOD. I WANT I'LL GET YOUR NUMBER. WE'LL HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. ALL RIGHT, WELL, SINCE, JIM, YOU'RE FULLY AWARE OF THIS AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED AS WELL IN THE DISCUSSIONS, MAYBE WE CAN TAKE THIS ON IN THE AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THE FINAL DISCUSSION, ITEM FIVE DISCUSS OTHER BUSINESS AS IT MAY BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD. WE'VE NOT HAD ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS OTHER THAN A SUGGESTION FROM JIM SHIPSTEAD ON THE FUEL. AND SO, JIM, IF YOU'RE PREPARED IMPROMPTU TO TAKE A MINUTE OR TWO AND, AND TALK ABOUT FUEL FILTRATION FOR THE FUEL FARM, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW. OKAY. ACCORDING TO THE ONE I, THE ONE I PICKED UP, YOU HAD AN AGENDA. ITEMS 5V151 AND FIVE TWO. AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE SKIPPED OVER THOSE. INTERESTING. I DON'T HAVE THAT ON MY COPY. YOU MEAN THE ACTION ITEMS? YEAH, I THINK WE'RE JUST NOT QUITE THERE YET. YEAH, WE'RE. YEAH. WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM FOUR, FOUR 
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SUBITEM FIVE. YEAH. OKAY. VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION. YES. YEAH. IT'S ALMOST TIES TO SOME OF THE STUFF UNDER FIVE. SORRY. TO HEAR. DON'T WORRY OKAY. DO YOU MIND. SPEAK TO THE MIC HERE JIM. 
          NOPE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. BUT THERE. IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT. OKAY. WE HAD A QUICK CONVERSATION COUPLE OF DAYS OR A DAY OR TWO AGO ABOUT THAT. SO MANY OF THESE AIRCRAFT NOW HAVE FUEL INJECTION AND AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE FUEL INJECTION. THE INJECTORS HAVE A LITTLE HOLE IN THEM, AS WE KNOW ABOUT FUEL INJECTORS. BUT THAT HOLE IS EXTREMELY SMALL. CIGARETTE SMOKE IS ONE MICRON. THOSE HOLES ARE TWO MICRONS. SO THOSE HOLES PLUG UP FAIRLY EASILY. IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A INJECTOR THAT BEGINS TO PLUG UP TO WHERE THEY TYPICALLY PRODUCE KIND OF A FAN, LIKE A FEATHER, KIND OF A FEATHER, LOOK TO THE SPRAY AS THOSE LITTLE HOLES GET PLUGGED UP, THAT FEATHER GOES AWAY AND YOU HAVE A JETTING ACTION, AND IT'S LIKE TAKING A CUTTING TORCH TO THE TOP OF THE PISTON. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WITH WITH ALL FUEL INJECTED AIRPLANES THAT YOU HAVE EXTREMELY CLEAN FUEL. NOW HERE'S A BUSINESS PROPOSITION FOR THE CITY IS IF WE CAN TAKE IN, COME UP WITH A POLISHING SYSTEM OF FUEL FROM WHATEVER WE CAN MEASURE WHAT THE DIRT IN IT IS. IN FACT, WE CAN MEASURE EACH TANK, LOAD WHAT THE DIRT IS IN IT AND ITS CONTENT, AND THEN WE CAN DESIGN A FILTRATION SYSTEM ON. MY TEAM CAN PROVIDE THE HARDWARE AS WELL AS THE DESIGN, AS WELL AS HOW THE SETUP WOULD WORK AND SO FORTH, AND WHAT OTHER EQUIPMENT MIGHT BE NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN POLISH THIS FUEL. THEY CALL IT POLISHING. WHEN YOU GO THROUGH MULTIPLE FILTERS, POLISH THIS FUEL TO THE LEVEL THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE DELIVERY IS WITHIN THAT TWO MICRON. CLEANLINESS, THE THE ADVANTAGE FOR THE CITY FOR THAT IS THAT IF WE CAN IF, IF IT BECOMES KNOWN AND SPICEWOOD OR EXECUTIVE AIRPORT OR OR GEORGETOWN OR BURNET THAT WE CAN DELIVER TWO MICRON CLEAN FUEL HERE AT THIS AIRPORT, WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE FLYING IN JUST A FEW LEVEL. THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL REVENUE HIGHER, HIGHER VOLUME FLOW OF FUEL BECAUSE WE GOT IT SO CLEAN THAT THEY WANT TO FLY OVER HERE TO FUEL UP. NOW THAT BECOMES AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALREADY, AND THAT IS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING RAMPS AND SO FORTH INTO THIS OTHER PROGRAM. SO IF YOU ADD MULTIPLE TANKS BECAUSE YOU EXPECT MORE PEOPLE FLYING IN JUST TO FUEL UP, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE, BUT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE. GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. JIM. DO YOU MIND IF WE JUST ASK A QUESTION OR TWO ABOUT THIS? SURE. SO WHAT WHAT WE SEE NOW IS, IS AT THE FUEL FARM IS NOT TOO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE AT GAS STATIONS AROUND TOWN. THERE'S A SINGLE FILTERING SYSTEM. AND AS THE FILTERS GET FULL, THE THE FUEL FLOW SLOWS. AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN NEW FUEL IS ADDED TO THE TANK, IT DISTURBS THE SEDIMENT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TANK. AND SO NONE OF US WANT TO BE THE GUY THAT'S FILLING UP THIS CAR AT THE GAS STATION, WHILE THE BIG TANKER TRUCK IS FILLING THE TANKS BENEATH GROUND, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO YOUR HIGHEST CHANCE OF GETTING DEBRIS. IT'S IT'S NOT TOO DIFFERENT AT THE FUEL FARM. AND SO ONE ASPECT OF THIS IS JUST UNDERSTANDING THE NOT JUST WHAT FILTERS WE HAVE NOW, BUT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THE FILTERS. HOW OFTEN ARE THEY CLEANED? I PROBABLY PROBABLY A PICTURE WOULD BE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. AND I CAN WALK BY HERE AND SHOW YOU THE PICTURE REAL QUICK, IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BATTERY OF TANKS AND YOU CAN HAVE A REDUNDANCY IN THE FILTER. YOU HAVE A BATTERY OF TANKS, REDUNDANCY IN THE FILTERS. THEN YOU SHOULD BE 
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ABLE TO HANDLE A MUCH BIGGER VOLUME. AND THEN THESE TANKS CAN BE CONFIGURED TO. HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU MORE. AND I KNOW THESE TANKS TELL THAT GUY MORE THAN ME. THESE TANKS CAN BE CONFIGURED TO DO SIMILAR TO WHAT SOME OTHER THINGS DO THAT THAT YOU KNOW, YOU CLEAN IT IN ONE AREA, IT'LL ROLL OVER TO ANOTHER TANK, IT'LL BE MORE CLEAN AND MICROPHONE. SORRY. I'M SORRY. YOU CAN CLEAN. YOU CAN HAVE CLEANLINESS IN ONE TANK. ROLL IT OVER TO ANOTHER TANK. MORE CLEAN ROLL ANOTHER TANK MORE CLEAN. TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY THE WAY THIS IS NORMALLY DONE IS IN, LET'S SAY A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. THEY HAVE A 30,000 GALLON TANK THAT'S FIVE MICRON CLEAN. THEY PUT IT IN A BIG TRUCK THAT HAULS IT OUT TO THE SITE. AND THAT ONE IS FOUR MICRON CLEAN. THEY PUT THAT IN ANOTHER THING THAT TRANSFERS IT TO THE BIG DOZER OR WHATEVER TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE DIFFERENT DOZERS. AND THAT'S THREE MICRON CLEAN. AND THEN THEY HAVE A TWO MICRON FILTER ON THE DOZER. AND SO IT DOES THAT. WELL. WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH THIS KIND OF THING YOU'D HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH TANKS A SERIES OF TANKS. SO WE'LL WORK THAT THROUGH. THAT'S WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE POTENTIAL POSSIBILITIES. WELL JIM, THERE MAY BE SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THE BOARD HERE. AND THEN I'LL I'LL CLOSE THE COMMENT OFF JUST JUST BY WAY OF. LET ME JUST DO THIS WHILE I'VE GOT THE FLOOR, SUGGESTING THAT THIS IS PROBABLY AN OPERATION MAINTENANCE COMMITTEE DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN TAKE OFFLINE. SO, NICK, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU AND I CAN CAN TAKE ON IN TERMS OF DISCUSSING FURTHER WITH JIM? AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT INTO A SMALL REPORT. AND THEN I DID WANT TO INTRODUCE JIM A LITTLE MORE FORMALLY, CAREER IN OIL AND GAS AND ALSO AN A&P AIRCRAFT MECHANIC. IS THAT CORRECT? AIRCRAFT MECHANIC DIDN'T LIKE WORKING ON AIRPLANES, SO I TOOK MECHANICAL ENGINEERING AND BIG OIL HIRED ME. OKAY. AND YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF VISTA? YEAH. OKAY. HEY, JIM, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. JUST PIE IN THE SKY. A FUEL POLISHING SYSTEM FOR A. WE'VE GOT A 5000 GALLON TANK UP THERE. SAY, WE TOOK IT TO TEN. TEN. WE HAVE TEN. WE GOT TEN. SO WE TAKE IT TO 15 OR 20. WHAT'S A POLISHING? FILTRATION SYSTEM? BUT WHAT WOULD YOU NEED TO BUDGET FOR THAT? WHAT'S IT COST THAT WE NEED TO GO TO MY TEAM. IS IT $100, $1,000, $10,000, $100,000? WHICH IS CLOSER PROBABLY IN THE FIVE 10,000. OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE AT 459 AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT THREE THREE MORE AGENDA ITEMS. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN STEP THROUGH THESE PRETTY BRISKLY. SO FOR ACTION ITEMS THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND FIVE ONE. CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE AIRPORT ZONING OVERLAY THAT'S BEEN DONE IN OTHER CITIES, I THINK, JIM, YOU'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO NEW BRAUNFELS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIRS. DO YOU DO YOU WANT TO JUST TALK QUICKLY? I'VE GOT THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR. HE PASSED ON TO ME THE NEW BRAUNFELS AIRPORT HAZARD ZONING DISTRICT AND THEIR WHOLE POLICY. AND I ALSO HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR AN AVIATION AND NOISE EASEMENT FROM THE CITY OF PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA. THAT'S A TEMPLATE. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO TAKE THESE TEMPLATES TO THE CITY MANAGER. IT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN AIRPORT ADVISORY PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO BE AN ATTORNEY TO IMPLEMENT, TO DEVELOP, TO IMPLEMENT THIS, BECAUSE IT WILL ONE BE A CONVERSATION WITH TEXDOT. WHAT DO YOU WANT? DO YOU JUST WANT AN AIRPORT HAZARD ZONE, WHICH TELLS SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, HEY, THERE'S AIRPLANES FLYING OVER YOUR AIRPLANE AND YOU CAN'T BUILD ABOVE THIS HEIGHT, ETCETERA. DO YOU ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE NOISE? SO YOU NOTIFY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN THEY BUY THE PROPERTY THAT, HEY, THERE'S NOISE GENERATED OVER HERE AND THERE'S HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. THE CITY WOULD THEN HAVE TO DEVELOP AN ORDINANCE, AND THEN THAT ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF LOOKING AT 
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THESE TWO THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE TO TALK TO TEXDOT. WHAT DO YOU WANT? IS THERE A TEMPLATE YOU HAVE? DON'T KNOW. AND THEN THIS IS A CITY PROJECT, NOT AN ADVISORY BOARD PROJECT, BUT AS A AS AN ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. ACCORDING TO SULLIVAN. TEX DOT ASK ABOUT IT. SO TEX DOT IS INQUIRING, HEY, WOULD YOU GUYS CONSIDER ONE OF THESE? SO I HAVE THESE TO PASS ON AND LET IT THEN BE TAKE THE CITY IN IN THEIR EXPERTISE AND COUNSEL. DO WHAT DO WE WANT AND WHO DOESN'T BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT A BOARD ISSUE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A LEGAL ISSUE AND A AND AN ORDINANCE ISSUE. JORDAN, WELCOME. WELCOME TO THE CITY AND WELCOME TO LAGO VISTA. AND GUESS WHAT? WE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH YOUR PREDECESSOR ON THIS VERY TOPIC. SO IT WAS IT WAS ACTUALLY DEV SERVICES THAT WE STARTED WITH PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS AGO. DISCUSSIONS OF ALL OF THIS, I THINK I HAVE MY MIND AROUND PROBABLY SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS. THIS IS ONE OF OUR ACTION ITEMS, AND THAT WOULD INVOLVE HAVING OUR CITY'S OFFICIAL COMMUNICATORS HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR AIRPORT PLANNERS AT TEXDOT TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT HOMEWORK THEY WANT US TO DO. WE KNOW RIGHT NOW, LOOSELY, THIS REQUEST CAME IN TO GENERATE THIS AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE OF CONVERSATION OUR MAYOR HAD WITH TXDOT AND THE NEW BRAUNFELS AIRPORT WAS MENTIONED. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NEW BRAUNFELS MOST RECENT THING. BUT WHAT'S APPLICABLE IN NEW BRAUNFELS MAY NOT BE THE SAME THING HERE IN LAGO VISTA. SO WE NEED TO DRILL DOWN TO EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. BEFORE WE DO THAT. PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO FOR OURSELVES AS A BOARD IS REVIEW PAGES 18 THROUGH 30 OF OUR AIRPORT ACTION PLAN. IT HAS INFORMATION STARTING WITH AIRSPACE AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE CONICAL SPACE ABOVE, AND GIVES A FULL ASSESSMENT OF WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTLY DOING WITH IT. I'M SURE NEW BRAUNFELS HAS COVERED THAT SORT OF STUFF FOR THEMSELVES. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM US? YEAH, SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM, I THINK IT'S ONE THAT WE'LL WE'LL TAKE OFFLINE AND BRING BACK TO, TO THE CITY, AS WE HAVE WITH THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND I'LL JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MISTER VICE CHAIRMAN, IN, IN RESOLUTION BACK IN MARCH, THE CITY'S DESIGNATED TWO SPOKESPERSONS FOR SPEAKING THE TEXT ITEMS. SO WE'LL BE VERY ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN CAN CAN HELP FACILITATE A DISCUSSION WITH JORDAN AND OTHERS IN TEXT AUDIT IF THAT'S THE RIGHT NEXT STEP. PERFECT. WELL, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THEN, THAT THE FIRST STEP, FIRST STOP IS REALLY A TECH STOP. WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? I MEAN, JUST DON'T GO OUT HERE AND INVENT SOMETHING. AND THEN BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE GUYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MENTIONED HERE AND THEIR ASSURANCE. TXDOT THE THE MANAGE OVER 250 YOU KNOW MUNICIPAL AIRPORTS. SO THEY THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. 
          EXACTLY. NO QUESTION. SO LET ME TAKE THAT ON AS ONE OF THE SPOKESPERSONS. TEXT. EXCELLENT. 
          DO YOU WANT THESE. AND THEN I'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU. SO IT'LL BE OUR COMMITTEE. YEAH. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN YOU GOT A COPY OF THAT ONE IF I MAY. YES, SIR. I WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THAT STEMMED FROM A CONVERSATION WITH THE TECH STOCK COMMISSIONER THAT ACTUALLY LANDED HIS PLANE UP THERE AT THE AIRPORT FOR THE BRIDGE CEREMONY, AND HE JUST MADE THAT SUGGESTION. HE DIDN'T SAY IT WAS A REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING. IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT. THANK YOU. AND WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR OVER A DECADE. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. THIS IS NOT NEWS TO TO SPEAK. IT'S EVER BEEN DONE TO SPEAK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. THE SURROUNDING AREA IS A LITTLE BIT OF WHY THAT CONVERSATION STALLED OUT HISTORICALLY DIRECTLY FROM OUR AIRPORT ACTION PLAN. IT SAYS THE AREA SURROUNDING THE NORTH THIRD OF THE RUNWAY AND CONTINUING OFF THE NORTH END OF THE RUNWAY IS OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS AND UNINCORPORATED TRAVIS COUNTY. THAT SAYS A LOT BY ITSELF, GOING BEYOND OVER TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, WE HAVE JONESTOWN THAT WE OVERLAY ALSO. 
          SO WE HAD PRETTY ROBUST CONVERSATIONS AND MAKE GOOD PROGRESS HERE IN LAGO VISTA BACK IN 2017, 18, 19. AND AS WE WENT OUT OF THE CITY'S JURISDICTION TO DEVELOP, CONSENSUS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAME EASILY. SO THAT JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THIS, THIS TIME, I THINK A WELL, A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO MAKE A DECISION TO HELP US WITH THIS WHEN WE TALK TO THOSE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL JUST TO TO PILE ON THERE. JAMES, PART OF THAT OVERLAY IS BALCONES CANYONLANDS. THAT'S FEDERAL WILDLIFE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S SUPER 
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SENSITIVE. AND WE DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONSIDER ALL THOSE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE RESEARCH THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE, JIM. WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE AND BRING IT BACK TO MR. WEST AND THE TEAM. SECOND ITEM THEN IS UNDER ACTION ITEMS NUMBER TWO, CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ESD REPORT ON THE FUEL TANK. DETERMINE THE ACTION STEP RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY. SO THERE WAS A REPORT BY A TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL, I BELIEVE, ON SOME SAFETY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD RECOGNIZED, AND I SPOKE WITH MARK HAMILTON ABOUT THAT, MR. WEST, AND HE SAID THAT THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION OR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS, OR IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'RE AWARE? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I LOOKED AT THE INITIAL EMAIL FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL AND MY MY RECOMMENDATION BY REPLY EMAIL, AND I'LL JUST PUT THIS TO THE BOARD. IS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S THAT'S ABSOLUTELY PARAMOUNT TO CURRENT SAFETY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. AND ANYTHING THAT'S SAFETY RELATED THAT THAT DOESN'T FALL INTO THE URGENT CATEGORY SHOULD BE PUT INTO THE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AT THE AIRPORT BY TEXTILE. SO TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AS A GENERAL THOUGHT THERE. AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OPERATION MAINTENANCE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL. TO JUST A LITTLE BIT DEEPER I SEE WHAT WAS THE COMPLAINT. I DON'T I'M NOT FAMILIAR. WELL AT THE TIME. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. THERE IS SOME BACKGROUND HERE. AT THE TIME THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION BY A GROUP HERE IN LAGO VISTA ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAINTING THE TANK, THE FUEL FARM TANK, THE THE FIRE MARSHAL TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FACILITY ITSELF. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DETAILS ARE AROUND INVITING TRAVIS COUNTY UP TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I DON'T HAVE THOSE DETAILS, BUT THE RESULT WAS THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THERE WERE SOME SAFETY. THEY DIDN'T MENTION WHAT THEY WERE. THEY DID REFERENCE STATE ORDINANCES, STATE STATUTES, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT. I CAN SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THEM SIMPLE THINGS LIKE SPILL KIT AND CLEARLY LABELED INSTRUCTIONS FOR A SPILL KIT, SIGNAGE ON THE FUEL SYSTEM, PRETTY BASIC LOW BARRIERS TO ENTRY, THINGS THAT FROM BEING AT A DISTANCE AND HEARING CITY STAFF TALK ABOUT. WE'RE ALREADY ON THE RADAR OF CITY STAFF TO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE UP TO SPEED WITH THAT'S THAT'S REASONABLE. SO PRETTY, PRETTY REASONABLE STUFF. AND THAT'S REASONABLE. I THINK. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH STEVE THAT ANYTHING THAT GOES BEYOND THE BARRIER, URGENT SAFETY RELATED NEED IS VERY WELL HANDLED IN A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BY TXDOT. THAT'S RIGHT IN THE SCOPE OF THINGS THAT THEY GENERALLY HELP MUNICIPALITIES PAY FOR. THEY DON'T WANT US TO GO BROKE. MAINTAINING A THING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE REVENUE TO HELP THE AIRPORT OPERATE. SO BEING BEING REASONABLE IN THIS STEP ONE, STEP TWO OF THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. BUT BEING BEING RESPONSIVE TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S CONCERNS AND ESPECIALLY SAFETY CONCERNS ARE A GREAT THING. DO WE KNOW IF IF MR. HAMILTON IS LOOKING INTO ANY OF THIS STUFF AT THIS POINT IN TIME? MR. WEST, HE SENT ME AN EMAIL AND WE'RE GOING TO RESEARCH IT. GOT IT. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU GUYS ALONG THE WAY, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME FROM THE PO SIDE, STEVE, FROM THE ARB SIDE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO. THOSE ARE SIMPLE ENOUGH. YEAH. SO I'M SURE I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT I DID NOT DO AN IN DEPTH REVIEW. I BELIEVE IT GOES MUCH HEAVIER THAN THAT. BUT THERE IS SOME EASY LOW HANGING FRUIT THERE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THAT ON THEN WE'LL COORDINATE WITH YOU, CHARLES. AND, AND WITH MARK AS WELL AND SEE IF THERE'S AN EASY LINE IN THE SAND THAT CAN BE DRAWN BETWEEN THE IMMEDIATE SAFETY MEASURES AND THOSE THAT ARE MAYBE MORE INVOLVED AND MORE COSTLY WITH THE STATE CAN PICK UP. I HAVE ANOTHER SAFETY ITEM. HAS ANYONE DONE ANYTHING WITH THAT GIANT CABLE THAT DOES NOTHING FOR TYING AIRCRAFT DOWN WITH. SO EVERY TIME THERE'S HIGH WINDS, I HAVE TO PERSONALLY RUN OUT THERE WITH WEIGHTS AND GO AROUND EVERY PLANE AND PUT WEIGHTS DOWN AND TIE THE PLANES DOWN AFTER I SPIN THEM AROUND, BECAUSE THEY TURNED ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO I THINK GETTING RID OF THE CABLE AND USING ACTUAL PAD EYES, OR ACTUALLY SECURING THE CABLE TO THE GROUND WHERE I CAN'T PICK IT UP FOUR FEET INTO THE AIR, WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. IT. THOSE ARE THE THREE TRANSIENT TIE DOWNS WE JUST DISCUSSED. THEY PROBABLY NEED TO BE PAINTED LABELED, AND THEN WE CAN JUST USE BORE HOLES FOR THE CONCRETE AND THE LOOPS AND AND PUT PUT 
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TIE DOWNS THERE. SO THEY'RE REALLY MARKED. THEY'RE REALLY TIED DOWN RIGHT NOW. ONE CABLE THAT THAT LIFTS UP SIX FEET IN THE MIDDLE IS NOT OKAY I GOT IT. OH THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S SIMPLE. 
          THAT'S SIMPLE MAINTENANCE. WE CAN PUT THAT ON MARK'S. AGENDA. I MEAN THAT CABLE IS PROBABLY MORE OF A DETRIMENT THAN IT DAMAGES THE BOTTOM OF AIRCRAFT. AND WE MAY WELL HAVE ASSISTANCE FROM TXDOT THROUGH RAMP GRANT DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THAT SORT OF THING ALSO. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. BUT NO, THAT WOULD BE THAT'D BE A NICE THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME BIG AIRPLANES OUT THERE THAT NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, ANCHORED. YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LIABILITY TO THE CITY WITH THE WAY THAT CABLE IS DESIGNED AND THE WAY IT'S AT. I MEAN, YOU YOU TIE DOWN A $3 MILLION AIRPLANE. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M GETTING AT. AND, YOU KNOW, A BIG WIND COMES UP, LIFTS THAT THING, TWISTS IT AROUND AND DAMAGES IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO CONSIDER GETTING RID OF THAT BAD BOY. I'M SURE THE CITY I'M SURE THAT'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN THE CITY HAS HAD. WELL, NO, IT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. IT WAS ATTACHED AT PLACES AT ONE TIME. IT IT'S SLOWLY GIVING UP. YEAH, IT NEEDS TO GO. THEY'VE ALL SLOWLY GIVEN UP. BUT BUT MR. WEST, I THINK THAT CABLE IS PROBABLY A BIG LIABILITY FOR YOU. OKAY. GOOD. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT. I THINK IT DEFINITELY IS. AND I DON'T WANT TO WORK ON ALL THE PLANES THAT ARE DAMAGED. YOU KNOW, PLAINTIFF'S LAWYER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. YEAH. JUDGE DURBIN DOESN'T WANT THE BUSINESS. WRAP DOESN'T WANT THE BUSINESS. LET'S GET THAT FIXED. YEAH, I CURRENTLY DON'T PRACTICE IN. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FORBEARANCE. FOR 13 MINUTES OVER. WE'VE HAD FANTASTIC DISCUSSION. I THINK WE'VE ALL IDENTIFIED THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE'LL TAKE AWAY IN OUR COMMITTEES, AND I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK THROUGH THOSE. I THINK I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMITTEES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO EACH ONE OF THESE WORKS. AND THEN LET ME JUST SAY, MR. SECRETARY, THAT WE CAN DISCUSS OFFLINE THE NEXT MEETING DATE. BUT TO YOUR POINT, IF WE'RE INVITED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE NEW COUNCIL, WE'D WANT TO MEET PROBABLY A WEEK BEFORE THAT, THAT TIME. OKAY. I HAVE ANOTHER POINT FOR THAT, TOO. COMMITTEE APPLICATIONS. WE'RE COMING UP ON A FEW BOARD MEMBERS TURNING OVER. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS. 
          I'M CLOSE. I THINK MAYBE THE 6TH OF NOVEMBER MIGHT BE THE DEADLINE THERE. IT'S RIGHT AROUND ELECTION DAY THAT YOUR DEADLINE TO HAVE YOUR APPLICATION IN WOULD BE. SO GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE. CHECK THAT OUT. IT'S AN ONLINE APPLICATION. I DON'T REMEMBER THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPIRING OTHER THAN I BELIEVE THAT I AM ONE OF THEM. SO I NEED TO GO AND GET THAT KNOCKED OUT. SO IF WE WISH TO CONTINUE A LINK, IF THAT'S ALL. OH YEAH. WOULD THAT HELP A LINK? THE LINK IS ALWAYS HELPFUL. SO BUT YEAH, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IN YOUR MIND BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE NEXT IMMEDIATE ACTION ANY OF US WOULD BE DOING THIS. MAKE SURE YOU GET HIM A LINK. YEAH THANK YOU FOR THAT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER ALIBIS? ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON FROM THE LIAISON. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY. OH, VERY GOOD. I'M A SUBSTITUTE LIAISON. I'M PRETTY MUCH HERE TO JUST. THANK YOU FOR SITTING DOWN FOR US. THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHARLES. I WILL SAY THAT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A JOINT WORKSHOP BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL SOMETIME RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS ON COUNCIL, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MEET INDIVIDUALLY WITH ALL THE BOARDS. SO THAT MAY BE A GREAT TIME FOR THAT PRESENTATION. THAT WAY EVERYBODY GETS TO KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S JOB IS. EXCELLENT. 
          HOW MANY POTENTIAL NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE ON THIS NEXT ELECTION? THREE, THREE. OKAY. 
          BEFORE I GAVEL IS CLOSED, I'LL EMBARRASS JORDAN FOR A QUICK INTRODUCTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          JORDAN STROHMEYER AMERICAN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF. DAY NUMBER. THIS IS DAY NUMBER FOUR. 
          FOUR. OKAY. WHERE'D YOU COME FROM AND WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE? SO I CAME FROM FIVE YEARS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE SECTOR, NOT BACK IN THE PUBLIC WHERE I LIVED. LOVE IT. OH. GET READY. YEAH, YEAH. Y'ALL DON'T SCARE HER OFF. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE TIME ANYMORE. JUST TRY AND DO TWO, TWO DUTIES. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. SO FAR, SO GOOD. GREAT STAFF, GREAT BOARD, GREAT SUPPORT. NOTHING TOO GREAT. SO I'M BORDERLINE HEARING AID APPLICANT. PRIVATE SECTOR. YOU 
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DID WHAT? I WAS AT KIMLEY-HORN DOING PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND THEN I DID. IT. IT'S A COMPANY SPECIALIZED IN MASSACHUSETTS. EXCELLENT. WELCOME, WELCOME. VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. VERY
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