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MS. MAY,[Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee on November 12, 2025.]
OH, SORRY.AND WE HAVE, UH, DAVID AND PAUL REPRESENT, UM, UH, HAVE WE GOT ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? NO, NOT.
WELL, UM, WE ARE GONNA APPROVE, UH, AS ANYBODY, I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S READ THE MEETING, UH, MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH THAT, UH, ROBIN SENT OUT.
CAN I HAVE PEOPLE TO APPROVE AND SECOND, PLEASE.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
SO TONIGHT OR TODAY? THIS AFTERNOON WE ARE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WE'RE ALL GONNA GO OUT ON A FIELD TRIP AND, UM, WE HAVE LIAISON COMMENTS.
YEAH, I'M JUMPING, JUMPING THE GAME.
NO, GOOD, BECAUSE I HAD SOME QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW UP FROM OUR MEETING.
SO ARE YOU READY FOR MIKE? YES, YES.
I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET US OUT EARLY.
OH, YEAH, YEAH, NO WORRIES, NO WORRIES.
SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO MAIN SUBJECTS.
ONE IS, UM, FOR THOSE WHOSE TERMS ARE EXPIRING, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST, UH, ROBIN AND, UH, MARK DOUGLAS AND DAWN.
UM, THOSE ARE THE THREE TERMS THAT ARE EXPIRING THIS DECEMBER.
SO, UH, ROBIN HAS TOLD ME SHE'S NOT PLANNING TO SIGN UP AGAIN.
UM, AND SO DAWN AND MARK, IF YOU ARE PLANNING OR WANTING TO CONTINUE, I HOPE THAT YOU ACTUALLY SUBMITTED.
ARE YOU PLANNING TO, WANTING TO CONTINUE, DAWN? YES.
UH, AND MARK, AND HAVE BOTH OF YOU SUBMITTED YOUR APPLICATION IN TO THE I'M NOT, BUT I TALKED TO, UH, ARROW CRUZ.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I STILL NEED, I GUESS I NEED A FORM, RIGHT? UH, I, I MEAN OFFICIALLY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT THE FORM EVERY TIME, SO YEAH.
AND, AND I BELIEVE THE DEADLINE WAS ACTUALLY LIKE A MAYBE LAST FRIDAY THEY EXTENDED.
OH, I DIDN'T SEE THE EXTENSION, BUT ANYWAY, I WAS GONNA SAY, I BET I CAN GET AN EXTENSION FOR YOU.
BUT, UH, YEAH, IF YOU'LL, UM, I THINK ON THE CITY WEBSITE THERE IS A FORM FOR APPLICATION AND THAT WOULD BE THE FORM TO DO.
IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE AND YOU'RE JUST REAPPLYING.
UM, AND, AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO, WE'LL NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY TO REPLACE ROBINSON.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER FOUR OF YOU, YOUR, YOUR TERM GOES THROUGH A YEAR FROM DECEMBER.
HAVE WE HAD ANY APPLICATIONS? I HAVE NOT CHECKED, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
UM, BUT THE NORMAL PROCESS IS, UH, OF COURSE WE'VE GOT TO DO THE FORMALITY OF, OF SWEARING IN AND SEATING THE NEW, THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UM, 1, 2, 3 THAT ARE BRAND NEW TO COUNCIL.
UM, AND OF COURSE NEW MAYOR, BUT WHO SHANE, WHO IS NEW MAYOR, BUT NOT NEW TO COUNCIL.
SO THAT SWEARING IN WILL HAPPEN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING WITH THOSE MEMBERS ON THE 20TH, UM, OF THIS MONTH.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL DO IN THAT MEETING IS, UH, DO LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS TO ALL THE COMMITTEES AND THEN, UM, THAT THE LIAISONS WILL INTERVIEW EVERYBODY THAT'S APPLIED FOR, FOR EVERY COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, AND THEN, UH, THE FOLLOWING MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY OR IN DECEMBER, UM, THEN, UH, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD ALL BE, UH, NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD ALL BE APPOINTED.
UM, AND SO I, UH, ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE, UH, SUPPOSED TO TURN IN THEIR PRIORITIZED THREE COMMITTEES THEY WANNA BE LIAISON FOR IN, IN ORDER.
AND MY PLAN IS WE'VE GOT SOME FUN THINGS GOING ON WITH PARKS AND REC.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA PUT PARKS AND REC AT THE TOP OF MY PRIORITY LIST, SO I ASSUME I'LL BE BACK AS LIAISON.
UH, I, I, I'VE BEEN LIAISON TO QUITE A FEW COMMITTEES AND I'M HOPING THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL STEP UP TO SOME OF THEM.
SO I DON'T, DON'T HAVE FOUR COMMITTEES OF LIAISON FOUR GOING FORWARD.
UH, SO IF YOU TWO WILL DO THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UH, SECONDLY, IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY SEE IT OR YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HEARD IT, THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN CAME INTO COUNCIL, UH, A FEW WEEKS BACK AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BASICALLY SAID WHAT HALF DID IS NO GOOD.
IT'S NOT, WE DON'T, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE SAID IT SHOULD BE.
IT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T REFLECT WHAT WE THINK IS REALLY THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
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THEY DID NOT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, THERE'S AN OPPOSITE OF ENDORSEMENT.THEY WERE THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM OF ENDORSING THAT.
AND FRANKLY, CITY COUNCIL WAS OF THE SAME LINE.
AND SO WHAT WE SAID WAS WE ARE GOING TO, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RUN AT A MASTER PLAN ON A DIFFERENT STRATEGY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE MASTER PLAN, UH, WHICH INCLUDES KIND OF THE OVERARCHING FRAMEWORK OF THE MASTER PLAN AND THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING PORTIONS OF IT.
WE'RE GONNA ASK THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE TO GO OFF AND WRITE SOMETHING UP.
SO TAKE A, TAKE A BIG, BIG EFFORT TO WRITE THAT UP.
THE PARKS MASTER PLAN IS ASSIGNED TO THIS COMMITTEE.
SO YOU ALL ARE BEING ASKED, AND THIS WOULD BE PRESUMABLY, YOU KNOW, FOREMOST THING ON YOUR AGENDAS GOING FORWARD, IS TO WORK ON THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND TWO THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
ONE IS, UM, UH, DAVID WAS ASKING ME IF I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.
YOU MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT FORMING A SUBCOMMITTEE OF TWO OR THREE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GO OFF AND WORK IT WITH CON TOGETHER WITH DAVID TO TRY TO MAKE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND THEN BRING IN SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE, UH, DEVELOPED FOR DISCUSSION IN HERE.
NO, I WOULD SIGN OFF FOR THAT.
UH, AND THEN THE SECOND THING, UM, THAT I WANTED TO, TO REMIND YOU OF, I THINK, I THINK YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER, THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ACTUALLY WROTE SOME FORMAL COMMENTS ON THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, AND THEY HAD SHARED THAT WITH YOU ALL.
UM, AND SO THEY ASKED ME IN THEIR MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO TO MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, YOU DON'T FORGET TO INCORPORATE WHAT THEY HAD HAD WRITTEN UP.
AND I'LL GO DIG IT OUT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PULL IT BACK UP AGAIN.
I, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW I SUBMITTED COMMENTS TO THE GOLF COMMITTEE.
YEAH, YOU DID IT AS WELL, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO A COUPLE PEOPLE DID, BUT THEY HAD PUBLISHED SOMETHING WHICH THEY BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL AND SHARED, WE SHARED WITH YOU ALL.
SO ANYWAY, THAT THEY ASKED SPECIFICALLY THAT, THAT DID FACTORED IN.
AND AS YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO JOINT HEATING WITH THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, BE APPROPRIATE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR LIAISON.
ESPECIALLY SINCE I'M GOING OFF, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU GET MAD, RIGHT,
ARE THEY GONNA ASK FOR MONEY BACK FROM HALF? IT WAS A BIG WASTE OF TIME.
UM, I CAN BE TACKY, YOU KNOW,
WELL, I THINK THAT, I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS YEAH, I, I I HEAR YOU ROBIN, AND I THINK YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN, IN, IN THAT OPINION.
I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY WHAT OUR RECOURSE WOULD BE TO GET, GET MONEY BACK ON, ON THAT CASH FOR, UM, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE CONTRACT WAS AND IF THEY, IF THEY, IF THEY MET THE DELIVERABLES OF THE CONTRACT.
BUT THE CONTENT OF THOSE DELIVERABLES IS SOMETHING WE DON'T LIKE.
UH, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE CAN ASK FOR OUR MONEY BACK? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU'D, WE'D HAVE TO ASK OUR TO HAVE TO ASK THOUSANDS.
WE'D HAVE TO ASK OUR LAWYER ON THAT.
DID IT COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS? UH, IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS QUITE THAT DONE.
AT THE VERY LEAST, I WOULD THINK THAT IT, THEY SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE MORE AND MAYBE REVISED BASED ON THAT.
IF, I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU, I KNOW IT'S BASED ON, YOU KNOW, UM, A CERTAIN FEE AND THEY DELIVER, BUT IF THE CONTENT IS INCORRECT FOR WHAT YOU ASKED, IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD NEGOTIATE A REVISION OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS A LITTLE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY REVISION, REVISION OF, UH, OF WHAT THEY CREATED PART? NO, NO, JUST, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DIFFERING ON, YOU KNOW, ON WHAT WE WANTED.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY SHOULD MEET WITH US TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT IS AND UPDATE IT.
HONESTLY, AFTER SEEING THEIR WORK, I CUT THE YEAH, REALLY JUST TRY TO GET MONEY BACK.
WE CAN ASK, WE CAN ASK THE QUESTION.
YOU CAN'T GET A NO WITHOUT ASKING THE QUESTION.
THAT'S ALWAYS MY, THAT'S MY VIEWPOINT AS WELL.
ANYWAY, SO, AND THEN MY NUMBER TWO.
'CAUSE YOU'RE WITH THE GOLF COMMITTEE TOO, RIGHT? I AM.
DO I NEED TO COME TO THEIR MEETING AND ASK THIS QUESTION? IS THERE ANYTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT THE PARKING LOT? I MEAN, WHEN YOU DRIVE IN I CALLED 'EM, I CALLED GREG.
I CALLED THE CITY AND THEY TOLD ME TO CALL THE GOLF COURSE.
THE GOLF COURSE SAID TO CALL THE CITY.
AND I SAID, THERE'S PIECES OF CONCRETE JUST LAYING IN THE DRIVEWAY AND IN THE PARKING LOT AND IT JUST LOOKS LIKE CRAP.
I MEAN, IT'S EMBARRASSING FOR THE CITY TO HAVE PEOPLE COME FROM OUT OF CITY TO COME PLAY GOLF HERE.
AND THEY DRIVE UP AND THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY SEE ARE ALL THESE PIECES OF CONCRETE AND R ROBIN, DID YOU SEND A NOTE TO CHARLES? BECAUSE I SAW A NOTE FROM SOMEONE TO CHARLES ON THAT SPECIFIC SUBJECT AND HE RESPONDED TO THAT NOTE.
YOU DIDN'T, I CALLED AND TALKED
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TO HIM.YOU DIDN'T SEE AN EMAIL FROM HIM THEN? IT MAY HAVE BEEN.
I WAS GOING TO AND I NEVER, IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO, UH, SO THERE WAS, I TALKED THE WAITRESSES THERE AND I, I MEAN, IT WAS JUST BUGGING US.
EVERY TIME WE GO THERE, YOU JUST SEE IT ALL.
I'M SURE Y'ALL SEE IT EVERY TIME YOU'RE PLAYING PICKLEBALL.
JUST ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GET TWO OR THREE GUYS OUT THERE TO GO PICK UP THE CONCRETE PIECES AND MOVE 'EM.
IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA REDO THE PARKING LOT, THEN AT LEAST FIX THOSE PIECES OF BROKEN CONCRETE OR GET RID OF 'EM.
I THINK THAT THE, THE RESPONSE FROM MR. WEST WAS, AND, AND I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER THE ESSENCE OF IT.
HE SAID, WE WILL REPAIR THAT PARKING LOT, HOWEVER, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EQUIPMENT COMING IN AND WORK GOING ON FOR THE IRRIGATION WORK, AND WE DON'T WANNA REPAIR THE PARKING LOT AND THEN DESTROY IT WITH BIG HEAVY EQUIPMENT COMING THROUGH THERE.
SO IT MIGHT TAKE US UNTIL AFTER THE IRRIGATION PROJECT IS DONE IN THE, YOU KNOW, SUMMER, LATE SUMMER TIMEFRAME.
UM, BUT WE WILL GET THAT DONE.
BUT CAN'T YOU JUST HAVE TWO OR THREE MEN GO OUT THERE AND PICK UP THOSE BROKEN PIECES OF CONCRETE AND EITHER THROW 'EM AWAY OR, I MEAN YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? YOU GOT IT.
DAVID, DAVID HAS WRITTEN A NOTE.
I MEAN, SO THEY CAN'T FIX NO, I HEAR YOU.
THERE, THERE'S THE, THERE'S THE LONG TERM, LONG TERM FIX IT.
WHICH HE WAS SAYING IN HIS NOTE, BUT YOU'RE SAYING, CAN'T WE JUST PICK UP THE BROKEN CONCRETE? THAT'S, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I KNOW ONE OF 'EM SAID THEY CAN'T REDO THE PARKING LOT 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY ROOTS AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE TREES AND THAT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE MAD.
I SAID, WELL, YEAH, IT IS A NICE LOOKING PARKING LOT WITH THE TREES.
BUT ANYWAY, BUT IF WE HAVE TO, YEAH, AND I THINK CHARLES ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THE TREES AS WELL, AND THE ESSENCE OF HIS NOTE WAS, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOSE SOME TREES BECAUSE WE ARE FIXING THE PARKING LOT, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
BUT YEAH, THAT MAYBE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
SO I I THINK HE'LL FIX IT LONG TERM.
AND THEN, UH, DAVID'S TAKING A NOTE ABOUT THE OH, THAT'S GOOD.
SEEING IF WE CAN AT LEAST PICK UP THE LOOSE CONCRETE IN THE INTERIM.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, PAUL.
UM, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, PARKS PLAN, I REALLY, REALLY AGREE WITH THIS DECISION TO HAVE PARKS, THE PARK, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS COMMITTEE BE INVOLVED WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT MAKING IT JOINT.
UM, IS, DOES THAT INCLUDE TRIPS OR WE YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
TRAIL IS PART OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
SO IT'S PARKS, OPEN SPACE AND TRIPS.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY A MODEL OTHER CITIES USE, SO YEAH.
I, I'M THROWING MY NAME IN THE HAT FOR THAT.
SO, UM, WELL, I, SETTING UP A SUBCOMMITTEE.
I WOULD NOT BE THE PERSON TO SELECT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE SO WE CAN JUST, YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, WOULD PICK IT, FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR WORK PLAN IS.
STAFF COMMENTS, LISTEN TO ROAD.
LET'S, SO ANDREW, YOU WANT TO ADJOURN TO THE TOUR? I'LL ADJOURN TO THE TOUR.