[I. CALL TO ORDER, CALL OF ROLL] [00:00:07] ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS. WE DID NOT DO EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS MEETING. PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE, AND SINCE WE HAVE NOTHING TO RECOVER FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE WILL GO STRAIGHT TO OUR PLEDGE TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAGS. AND THEN OUR INVOCATION. PLEASE RISE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NOW THE TEXAS FLAG. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. PLEASE STAND. IF YOU'D LIKE. WE HAVE OUR INVITATION FROM MARINA. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER THIS EVENING IN SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY OF LAGO VISTA. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR EVERY CITIZEN AND THE SHARED HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. WE, LORD, WE ASK FOR YOUR PEACE TO SETTLE AMONG US. HELP US TO APPROACH ONE ANOTHER WITH OPEN HEARTS. PATIENT UNDERSTANDING, GUIDE US TO WORK GRACE. UNITE US IN PURPOSE. HELP US TO LISTEN BEFORE WE SPEAK, AND ALWAYS SEEK CLARIFICATION. WHEN UNCERTAINTY ARISES. MAY WORK. BE GUIDED BY WISDOM, FAIRNESS AND COMPASSION, AND MAY OUR DECISIONS REFLECT A SINCERE DESIRE TO STRENGTHEN LAGO VISTA AND CARE FOR ALL WHO CALL IT HOME. WE PLACE THIS TIME IN OUR EFFORT. IN YOUR HANDS. AMEN, AMEN. NOW WE WILL MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE [VI. CITIZEN COMMENTS] CITIZENS. FIRST ONE HERE I HAVE MICHELLE, HERMES, HERMES. HERMES. SORRY. FORGIVE ME. I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT I DID PREPARE A STATEMENT. I'M JUST GOING IT. SURELY YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO BE HEARING THIS FROM ME FIRST. BUT I AM HERE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TWO BILLBOARDS LOCATED AT 1431 AND LOWMAN FORD. THESE ADVERTISEMENTS ARE SEEN BY OUR RESIDENTS, VISITORS AND PASSERS BY. AND SO, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE FIRST IMPRESSION THAT PEOPLE SEE OF OUR CITY. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY NEW BILLBOARDS, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO REMOVE THE EXISTING BILLBOARDS. SO I DID WANT TO ASK ABOUT THAT. AND I DO KNOW THAT THE PROCESS OF REMOVING AN EXISTING BILLBOARD IS NOT TRIVIAL. IT'S LONG, IT'S EXPENSIVE, AND POSSIBLY A LEGAL PROCESS TO GET THEM REMOVED FROM THE OWNERS THAT LEASE THEM. BUT I DID WANT TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS OF REMOVING THE EXISTING BILLBOARDS. I BELIEVE THEY'RE OBSTRUCTIVE, THEY'RE UNSAFE, AND THEY'RE UNMISTAKABLY OUT OF PLACE FOR A CITY LIKE LAGO VISTA. FINALLY, I THINK THAT THESE BILLBOARDS POSE A THREAT TO OUR DESIGNATION AS A CERTIFIED TEXAS SCENIC CITY. SIGN CONTROL IS ONE OF THE TEN CRITERIA THAT THEY MEASURE US ON TO KEEP THAT DESIGNATION. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ACTUALLY A CERTIFIED PLATINUM SCENIC CITY. SO I REALLY THINK THAT THIS JEOPARDIZES OUR OUR STATUS, IF YOU WILL. SO BUT THEY DO ASK FOR A PLAN TO REMOVE GRANDFATHERED SIGNS WHEN THEY LOOK AT HOW WE MANAGE SIGNAGE. SO I THINK THAT AGAIN THAT THIS COULD JEOPARDIZE OUR DESIGNATION IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT PROMPTLY. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO PLEASE PRESERVE THE SCENIC BEAUTY OF OUR CITY AND OUR SMALL TOWN CHARM BY BEGINNING THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND NEXT I HAVE TRAVIS RILEY. AGAIN. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE AS WELL. I KIND OF WANT TO ADDRESS THE DRUG ISSUES WE HAVE. I'VE HAD PERSONALLY DEALT WITH IT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL. I KNOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO BE GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION. I STILL RESPECT OUR POLICE, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED TO MY FAMILY, WHAT THE LACK OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING ABOUT IT, AND THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING A BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND JUST AS I WALKED IN HERE, I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF THIS EARTH. TO GIVE SOMEWHAT OF AN EXAMPLE, I WAS [00:05:03] TOLD BY THE HIGH SCHOOL SRO, I DON'T ENFORCE TOO MUCH IN THE SCHOOL BECAUSE I WANT THE STUDENTS TO TRUST ME. SO I BUY THEM CANDY AND HOPE THEY'LL TELL ME WHO'S DOING SOMETHING WRONG. THAT IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM. I KNOW WE'RE A VERY SMALL TOWN. FENTANYL IS TERRIBLE. IT'S EVERYWHERE. I CAN PROBABLY SAY OVER HALF THIS ROOM HAS SOMEBODY AFFECTED BY IT IN THEIR LIFE. MY KID'S MOTHER BEING ONE. IT KILLS ME THAT THERE IS NOT ENFORCEMENT AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN DO BESIDES TALK. I'M JUST A GUY. I'M JUST HERE. BUT I'VE BEEN TO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS. I'VE BEEN A SINGLE FATHER SINCE 2013. ROUND ROCK LANDER EVERYWHERE. IF WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF DRUG OVERDOSES, ANY TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT ON CAMPUS, WE WERE TOLD OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES THAT. NOTHING. I WAS TOLD THAT MY SON WAS A LIAR BY THE PRINCIPAL. IF THAT IS AN EDUCATOR'S ROLE FOR OUR KIDS, I FEEL I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING BY STAYING HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'LL CHANGE. I KNOW I CAN ONLY SPEAK ON IT, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN THIS TOWN. I BELIEVE SOMEBODY CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND OUR POLICE CHIEF THAT'S HERE NOW HAS BEEN HERE A WHILE. I KNOW HE CAN ATTEST OFF RECORD THAT WE HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM. IF YOU DON'T SEE IT, IT'S REAL EASY TO DRIVE AROUND, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. I CAN BE A VIGILANTE. BUT WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR ME? I WANT TO PROTECT KIDS, I COACH KIDS, I MENTOR KIDS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO AND TELL ON THEIR FRIENDS IN HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S A VERY, VERY INFANCY OF THEIR ADULTHOOD. BUT THE FACT THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT SAYS THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED TO PROTECT OUR KIDS IS A BIG PROBLEM TO ME. I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD PUSH HARDER. I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR, YOU KNOW? NEXT WILL BE I'LL BE BACK. YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE HAPPEN TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S KID. LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO MINE. SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY TODAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE THAT EMAILED ME. THIS ONE IS FROM MR. PAUL ROBERTS. ASKED IF I WOULD READ THE FOLLOWING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL I SUPPORT IMPROVING OUR CODE. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE UNGLAMOROUS WORK FIXING CONFLICTS, REPAIRING CROSS-REFERENCES AND TIE INS, REMOVING DUPLICATION AND ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND INTERNAL CONSISTENCY. MY CONCERN IS SCOPE CREEP. A CODE DIAGNOSTIC AND A UNIFIED CODE PROJECT CAN BE EITHER A POLICY NEUTRAL ORGANIZATION SLASH CONSISTENCY EFFORT OR A POLICY CHANGE EFFORT, ESPECIALLY ON LAND USE. WHEN COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THIS IN 2025, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO REOPEN LAND USE POLICY EXCEPT WHERE WARRANTED TO RESOLVE CONFLICTS, CLARIFY TIE INS, OR ADDRESS LEGAL COMPLIANCE ISSUES. SO IF YOU FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE TONIGHT, I'M ASKING FOR THREE GUARDRAILS. FIRST, ADOPT A SHORT WRITTEN CHARTER THAT LACKS THE SCOPE. THE DEFAULT SCOPE SHOULD BE CONFORMANCE AND COHERENCE ONLY STATE LAW COMPLIANCE, INTERNAL CONTRADICTIONS, MISSING CROSS-REFERENCES, DEFINITIONS, CLEANUP THAT DOESN'T CHANGE MEANING AND REORGANIZATION FOR CLARITY, ANYTHING THAT CHANGES LAND USE AND ENTITLEMENTS, DENSITY, DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, PARKING POLICY, PDR DISCRETION, NOTICE AND APPEAL RIGHTS OR APPROVAL AUTHORITY SHOULD BE TREATED AS POLICY AND REQUIRE EXPLICIT COUNCIL DIRECTION AND PUBLIC PROCESS BEFORE IT'S DRAFTED INTO ORDINANCE. LANGUAGE. SECOND, USE A TWO TRACK APPROACH WITH HONEST LABELING. TRACK A IS POLICY NEUTRAL CLEANUP AND CONSOLIDATION. TRACK B IS POLICY OPTIONS, IF ANY, CLEARLY LABELED AS OUT OF SCOPE UNLESS COUNCIL LATER DIRECTS IT. THAT PREVENTS POLICY SHIFTS FROM BEING BUNDLED INTO A CLEANUP PACKAGE. THIRD, REQUIRE TRANSPARENCY. RED LINES ARE A SIMPLE WHAT CHANGE WHY? WHO REQUESTED IT REGISTRY SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT'S MERELY REORGANIZED VERSUS WHAT IS SUBSTANTIVE. ONE PROCEDURAL POINT IF THE COMMITTEE FORMATION OF SCOPE ARE CLEARLY POSTED AS AN ACTION ITEM, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO POST IT AND TAKE ACTION AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR TRANSPARENCY. FINALLY, YOU ALREADY HAVE A PRACTICAL TRANSPARENCY TOOL THE COUNCIL STAFF PUBLIC DISCUSSION BOARD. PLEASE USE IT AS THE WORKING SURFACE POST. PROPOSED RED LINES ARE EXCERPT CHANGES THERE WITH BRIEF EXPLANATIONS AND IDENTIFY WHETHER EACH CHANGE IS COMPLIANCE CONSISTENCY VERSUS A POLICY TOPIC THAT KEEPS US VISIBLE, BUILDS TRUST, AND REDUCES THE FEAR THAT A REWRITE IS BEING USED TO CHANGE POLICY THROUGH THE BACK DOOR. YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? YES. TO THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT SPOKE. IF YOU WOULD BE, IF YOU WOULD SEND ME AN EMAIL, YOU CAN GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND YOU CAN EITHER REPLY TO ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I'M SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR PLACE TO JUST SEND ME A REAL QUICK INFORMATION WITH YOUR. SO I HAVE YOUR INFORMATION AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL MAKE SURE TO ENSURE YOU GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO THE CORRECT PEOPLE SO THAT YOUR CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO STAY COPY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM AS YOU'VE REQUESTED. THANK YOU. CAN I MAKE ONE [00:10:01] COMMENT? TRAVIS, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING YOUR SITUATION ON THE COMMUNITY BOARD, SIR, AND I'M VERY GLAD THAT YOU SHOWED UP TONIGHT. IF YOU WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO BE CC'D ON THIS. WE CAN'T DO MORE THAN TWO BECAUSE THEN IT BECOMES A QUORUM. BUT JUST AN INFORMATIONAL. I'D APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST A LITTLE CORRECTION. IF I MAY, MISS CHAVARRIA, CITIZENS ARE FREE TO SEND EMAILS TO ALL OF COUNCIL. OKAY? JUST COUNCIL CANNOT REPLY ON THAT AND CREATE A CONVERSATION. OKAY, SO THANK YOU. UNLESS YOU DO IT ON YOUR DISCUSSION DISCUSSION DISCUSSION BOARD OKAY. AND THEN THAT MAY COME MAY COME UP ESPECIALLY WITH THE WITH THE SCHOOL. I HAVE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON [VII. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST] TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.0415, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REPORT ON ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS EXPRESSION OF THANKS, GRATITUDE AND CONDOLENCES. INFORMATION REGARDING HOLIDAY SCHEDULES. RECOGNITION OF INDIVIDUALS, REMINDERS REGARDING CITY COUNCIL EVENTS, AND REMINDERS REGARDING COMMUNITY EVENTS AND HEALTH AND SAFETY ANNOUNCEMENTS. THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAD IS THAT THE CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED NEXT MONDAY FOR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR HOLIDAY, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OTHER ONE. SO, CHARLES, IS THERE ANY OTHERS? YEAH, I BELIEVE MOVIES ON THE GREEN IS FRIDAY NIGHT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. THEY'RE SHOWING FROZEN. OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO SING ALONG. I HAVE A FIVE YEAR OLD THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE LEADING THE SINGLE LINE. AND THEN I'LL START DOWN HERE WITH MISTER HALL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS, HAS CONTINUES TO MEET IN ON SECTION THREE RIGHT NOW AND HOPES TO FINISH IN FEBRUARY. BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY INTEREST. OH I'M SORRY. NO, I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT. NO WORRIES, MISTER BENNEFIELD. MR. IVORY, I HAVE TWO THINGS. THE LAGO VISTA WOMEN'S CLUB, THEY'RE HAVING THEIR ANNUAL GALA THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS. IT'S GOING TO BE ON JANUARY 24TH AT 5:30 P.M. UNFORTUNATELY, TICKET SALES ARE ALREADY CLOSED, BUT THEY'RE STILL LOOKING FOR SILENT AUCTION ITEMS. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DONATE, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ROCHELLE SOPER AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU A A LETTER OF ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR YOUR DONATION THAT CAN BE TAX WRITE OFF IF APPLICABLE. THEY'RE THEY'RE STILL SELLING THEIR TICKETS FOR LET'S PAINT THE TOWN RED THE VALENTINE'S DAY DINNER AND DANCE. AND THOSE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE THROUGH FEBRUARY 3RD. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT THESE DONATIONS ARE IMPORTANT. IT HELPS BUILD SCHOLARSHIPS FOR OUR YOUTH OVER HERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEY DO WONDERFUL THINGS. AND I SEE CHRISTY TANDY IS IN ATTENDANCE. WHO IS THE LAGO VISTA WOMEN'S CLUB LIAISON? SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, YOU CAN COME UP AND DO A PUBLIC COMMENT LATER IF YOU NEED THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. THEIR NEXT EVENT ISN'T UNTIL APRIL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT THE LIBRARY IS ACCEPTS BOOKS YEAR ROUND, AND THEY ALSO HAVE BOOK SALES THAT ARE GOING ON YEAR ROUND. THEIR NEXT BIG EVENT ISN'T UNTIL APRIL, BUT THEY COULD USE ALL THE HELP THEY CAN AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO FIRST OFF, THE LIONS WILL BE HAVING THEIR ANNUAL CHILI FEAST AT THE HIGH SCHOOL ON FEBRUARY 7TH. EVERYBODY GET READY FOR THAT AND COME AND GET A FRITO PIE, A HOT DOG, OR JUST A NICE BOWL OF CHILI THAT, ALONG WITH THE WOMEN'S CLUB, WE ARE IN TANDEM HELPING ALL THE KIDS TRY TO GET THEIR SCHOLARSHIPS UP AND GOING. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY REAL QUICK A SHOUT OUT TO THE LOCAL VISTA HIGH SCHOOL ROWAN SMOKED BARBECUE BLUE TEAM. THEY WON THE GRAND CHAMPIONS WITH 12,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS AWARDED AND A NEW DRUM SMOKER WITH THE GOLD TEAM FINISHING FOURTH PLACE. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT JOHN BAKER WOULD BE PROUD OF OUR UP AND COMING BARBECUE TALENT, FOR SURE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT I PUT ON THE COUNCIL FORUM IN REGARD TO CROSS COUNTRY. I WAS AT THE YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT IN PARTICULAR, I'M VERY PROUD OF THE LAGO VISTA HIGH SCHOOL DECA STUDENTS WHO WENT AHEAD AND WERE STATE QUALIFIERS, AND IF I COULD JUST SAY THEIR NAME REAL QUICK, RILEY KOLLER, WESTON WALKER, TRISTAN SMITH, SEAN WAYMAN, JACK DIGHTMAN, JOSHUA FREITAS. FORGIVE ME, BEATRICE INMAN, MOLLY ROBERTS AND JOEL FOSS TRULY APPRECIATE OUR UP AND COMING ENTREPRENEURS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, MR. PRINCE. NO ONE I DID SAY I WAS GOING TO MENTION WAS, I KNOW VERSUS A BIT OF AN [00:15:06] APOLOGY TO THE CITIZENS ON THE UTILITY BILL BILLS ISSUE THIS WEEK, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO THANK OUR STAFF, WHO OBVIOUSLY IN A BILLING ISSUE, WE'RE TAKING SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS AND HELPING CITIZENS GET THROUGH THAT ISSUE. AND I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF WORKING ON THAT ISSUE. SO I REALLY WANTED TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT AND THANK THEM FOR [IX. CONSENT AGENDA] THAT. NEXT, WE'RE MOVING DOWN TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER CONSENT AGENDA ARE TO BE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL NOT BE SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO PULL OFF? THE CONSENT AGENDA? ITEM ONE WAS ACTION. REGARDING THE JANUARY 5TH, 2026 CALL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES AND NUMBER TWO WAS ACTION REGARDING THE JANUARY 6TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. MAYOR. THE JANUARY 6TH MEETING MINUTES HAD SOME CHANGES THAT I ASKED THE CITY SECRETARY TO DO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TO READ THOSE IN IF I IF I MAY. SO MAYBE PULL THAT OFF SO I CAN READ THOSE IN. OKAY. ANY OTHERS. ALL RIGHT. THEN I WILL GO FORWARD WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE. THEN AGAIN WE WILL BE JUST LOOKING AT ACTION ITEM, OUR CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER ONE ACTION REGARDING THE JANUARY 22ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. ALL THOSE APPROVED SAY AYE. I WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AND NOW WE ARE ON ITEM TWO. ACTION REGARDING THE JANUARY 6TH, 2026 CALLED CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. AND MR. PRINCE, I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF FOR THE CITY SECRETARY, WE NEEDED TO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON APPROVING THAT. YES. I'M SORRY I DID NOT HAVE A MOTION ON APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE. OH. SO MOVE SECOND, SECONDED BY VICE OWN. SHOULD I RETAKE THE VOTE, BRANT? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. UNANIMOUSLY. [IX.2. Action regarding the January 6, 2026, Called City Council Meeting Minutes.] SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, MR. PRINCE. THANK YOU. AND THERE WAS IN THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, THERE WERE SOME SPELLING ERRORS THAT HAVE BEEN CORRECTED. AND WE'LL SHOW UP IN THE FINAL. BUT ON ACTION ITEM X, I THAT IS 11.5. I ASKED THE CITY SECRETARY TO ADD SOME NOTES. THIS IS WHERE WE DID A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND STAFF, YOU ALL MAY RECALL STAFF VERBALLY GAVE US AN UPDATE OF WHERE THOSE MONIES WERE COMING FROM, SO I JUST WANTED THAT CAPTURED IN THE RECORD. AND SO THE PARAGRAPH THAT I ADDED, WHICH HAS BEEN ADDED IN IN THE SECRETARY'S VERSION OF THE NOTES, IS AS FOLLOWS. STAFF EXPLAINED, AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL, HOW THE INCREASE IN FUNDING WAS COVERED. PER DIRECTOR NAVARRO, THE MONIES FOR THE INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND WERE COVERED BY UNDERSPENDING IN NON-DEPARTMENTAL CONTRACT SERVICES. THE MONIES FOR THE INCREASE IN THE UTILITY FUND WERE COVERED BY UNDERSPENDING IN THE UTILITY INFILL PROGRAM, AND IN WATER AND SEWER TAP FEE EXPENSES, AND AS I SAID, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CONCLUDED. SO WITH THOSE CHANGES THAT THE CITY SECRETARY HAS ALREADY INCORPORATED, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 6TH MINUTES. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM? ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE APPROVED SAY AYE. ALL THOSE AGAINST SAY NAY IS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. SORRY. I'M SO EXCITED THAT THIS MIGHT BE A QUICK MEETING. I WAS READY TO JUST KEEP FLYING THROUGH THINGS. NOW I WILL GO BACK TO OUR ACTION [VIII.1. Consideration and possible action to award RFP No. 26-02, City of Lago Vista Golf Course Irrigation System Replacement, to the selected proposer in an amount not to exceed $____, contingent upon receipt and evaluation of proposals, and authorize the City Manager to execute the contract.] ITEMS. I WILL READ IN ACTION ITEM NUMBER ONE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD RFP. NUMBER 2602 CITY OF LAGO VISTA GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. REPLACEMENT TO THE SELECTED PROPOSER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED. THERE WAS STILL BLANK IN MY ITEM HERE, CONTINGENT UPON RECEIPT AND EVALUATION OF PROPOSALS, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. AND CHARLES, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON, LET VICTOR TALK TO THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT JUST GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. THIS IS AN EFFLUENT DISPERSAL SYSTEM, FOR THE RECORD, JUST TO SHOW THAT IT'S EFFLUENT DISPERSAL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN OUR BOND FOR THIS PROJECT. VICTOR. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE WAS QUITE A FEW CHANGES. WELL, JUST MORE UPDATES THAN ANYTHING TO THE AGENDA ITEM. AND I DID SEND THAT TO COUNCIL THROUGH EMAIL, I BELIEVE LAST WEEK I SENT THE PRELIMINARY ONE TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN LEAVE ON TUESDAY WE DID THE BID OPENING AND THEN I SENT AN UPDATED ONE WITH THE FULL RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVING DIAMOND GOLF INTERNATIONAL FOR 3,000,650. SORRY, $3,615,632.23. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR VICTOR? I'M SORRY, ONE QUESTION THAT [00:20:11] OCCURRED TO ME LOOKING THROUGH THE PACKET. THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMPANY AND REFERENCES THAT THEY HAD DONE, AND I JUST WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK. WAS THE CITY ABLE TO CONTACT ANY OR SOME OR ALL OF THE REFERENCES AND GET A GET A FEEL, FEEL FOR CONFIDENCE IN THE COMPANY? YES, SIR. I ACTUALLY CONTACTED THREE OF THE REFERENCES, AND THAT WAS ALSO IN THE EMAIL THAT I SENT PREVIOUSLY, BREAKING DOWN THAT THEY HAD POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY. GREAT. THANK YOU. VICTOR. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I WANTED TO THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY BELOW OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET. CORRECT. WE HAD KIND OF THOUGHT IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO 5 MILLION OR 4 MILLION. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THAT, THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT WAS PLANNED FOR. SO THIS IS GOOD NEWS OVERALL. YES IT WAS. I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS ABOUT 5 MILLION. AND THEN WHEN WE SPOKE WITH LES HILL, THE MOST RECENT UPDATE WAS ABOUT TWO POINT OR 4.2 TO 4.4, AND THAT WAS WITH A FEW MINOR CHANGES. BUT OVERALL IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT ON. WHEN WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING FOR THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN, WE WERE LOOKING AROUND ABOUT 3.5 MILLION. SO WE'RE STILL PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, WE ACTUALLY BUDGETED $5.5 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS GOOD. THANK YOU, MR. HALL. WELL, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE THOROUGHNESS THAT THE BID WAS REVIEWED. THE BIDS WERE REVIEWED AND THAT THE BID BIDDER SELECTED WAS ONE OF THE TOP TWO LOWEST, DESPITE BEING THE BEST AND HIGHEST QUALITY BID THAT WE RECEIVED. SO YEAH, I'M VERY PLEASED TO TO SEE WHAT YOU'VE SELECTED. YES. SO WITH THE MONIES THAT WERE SAVED AND THIS IS I KNOW THIS IS VICTOR, I DIDN'T PUT THIS OUT ON THE BOARD OR WHATEVER, SO FORGIVE ME, BUT REALLY KIND OF DIRECTED AT OUR CITY MANAGER, WILL WE BE ABLE TO REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE MIDST FAIRLY QUICKLY? YES. WHEN YOU COME TO THE NEXT ACTION ITEM, I HAVE A PLAN. RELATED TO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, CHANGE ORDERS ARE ALLOWED IN THIS CONTRACT. MY QUESTION FOR Y'ALL IS WHO HAS THE APPROVAL TO APPROVE OF THOSE CHANGE ORDERS? I KNOW IT SAYS IN THERE THAT THEY'RE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY CHANGES WITHOUT APPROVAL. WHO PROVIDES THAT APPROVAL? SO I KIND OF WANT TO LEAVE THAT TO CHARLES. ANY CHANGE ORDERS OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW. WHAT'S THAT AMOUNT THRESHOLD, DO YOU THINK? ANY CHANGE ORDER REALLY I THINK SHOULD COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE CHANGE ORDERS. I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. COUNCIL FEELS I SEE HEAD NODS. I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. THE OTHER ONE IS IT SAYS IT'LL BE COMPLETED WITHIN 150 DAYS OF THE NOTICE TO PROCEED. WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE NOTICE TO PROCEED? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T MEET THE 150 DAYS? IS THERE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES OR ANYTHING? USUALLY THIS THIS ISN'T A BIG ISSUE AND IT'S THE MAIN DRIVER OF DELAYS IS GOING TO BE MATERIALS ACQUIRING THE MATERIALS. SO BEFORE WHEN WE EXECUTE THE CONTRACT, WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WHICH WILL PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT A MONTH TO GET THE CONTRACT FINALIZED. THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PRE-BID MEETING. DURING THAT PRE-BID MEETING IS WHEN WE'LL DISCUSS SUBMITTALS AND ALL OF THAT, AND FIGURE OUT TIMELINES OF WHEN THEY CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE MATERIAL ON HAND. ONCE THEY ARE CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO BREAK GROUND, THAT'S WHEN THAT NOTICE TO PROCEED WILL BE GIVEN. AND I USUALLY GIVE ABOUT A TWO WEEK START PERIOD FROM WHEN THE NOTICE TO PROCEED IS TO WHEN THEY NEED TO START. BUT USUALLY THE WEEK OF AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S TIMELINE. WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS TO START AND THEN WHAT WAS YOUR ESTIMATE? IT'S REALLY HARD TO TELL RIGHT NOW, BUT I, I WOULD ASSUME THEY'RE BREAKING GROUND IN AT LEAST TWO MONTHS. AND I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED BECAUSE THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAD BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE. BUT FOR THE GOLFERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD THEY ANTICIPATE ON THE COURSE AS THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD? I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A HOLE OR TWO AT THE TIME OR WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? THE GOAL IS STILL DOING A HOLE, ONE HOLE AT A TIME, AND THEN THEY'LL PROBABLY RUN THE TRENCH LINE. SO WHILE THEY'RE GOLFING, THEY MIGHT BE OUT THERE DOING THE MAIN TRENCH, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO FOR ALL THE LATERALS AND EVERYTHING, IT'S GOING TO BE ONE HOLE CLOSED AT A TIME. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, WHAT I HEARD FROM SOME CITIZENS WHO CAME TO THE BID OPENING, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY DONE PROCESS AND REALLY APPRECIATED THE PROFESSIONAL JOB THAT YOU DID. SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I CAN SWITCH TO CITIZEN COMMENTS NOW. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP [00:25:04] FOR MAYOR. I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT. THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHANGE ORDERS. YES. AND AND SO CERTAINLY IT'S PERMISSIBLE TO FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE EVERY CHANGE ORDER SOME SOME CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS PROVIDE UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL TO GIVE YOUR CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES OR WITHIN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL CONTRACT PRICE. THOSE ARE PERMISSIBLE THINGS TO DO. THE ONLY THING IS THAT SOMETIMES CHANGE ORDERS BECAUSE OF POSTING REQUIREMENTS AND GETTING THINGS ON MEETINGS. SOMETIMES THERE MAY NEED TO BE QUICKER TURNAROUND TIMES. SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. SO IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO DO THAT. BUT AGAIN IT'S WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO AND WHATEVER CHARLES IS COMFORTABLE WITH AND, YOU KNOW, UP TO SPENDING LIMITS WITHIN THE CHARTER AND SO FORTH. BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S LEGAL TO DO IT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY. YEAH. SORRY, I MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAD GIVEN THE CITY MANAGER I THINK IT'S 50,000, BUT I THINK 52,000. SO LIKE DISCRETIONARY. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT ANY SUBSTANTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE WOULD COME BEFORE US. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS GOING TO BE A STALL AND IT WAS GOING TO PUT US BEHIND SCHEDULE, THAT THAT CALL WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO COME IN AND MAYBE EVEN BECOME A SPECIAL MEETING AT THAT POINT. THAT'S JUST MY RECORD. I'D BE GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK I DO HAVE ONE CITIZEN WHO'S RAISING THEIR HAND. SO I'LL GO TO COMMENTS AND WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. MR. ROBERTS, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I APOLOGIZE THAT THERE WERE NO SIGN UP CARDS IN THE LOBBY, SO. I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT'S DUE. BACK IN LATE 2024, COUNCILMAN BENEFIELD APPROACHED SHANE AND I WITH CONCERNS ABOUT INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION REGARDING THE BID. AND HE WAS RIGHT. HE THOUGHT WE COULD GET THIS DONE FOR $3 MILLION INSTEAD OF 5 MILLION. WE CAME REALLY CLOSE TO THAT AND IT WAS BUDGETED FOR FIVE AND A HALF. THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK. THAT GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS UPSET. I DON'T BLAME THEM. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARD GETTING A BETTER IRRIGATION SET UP FOR THE EFFLUENT DISPERSAL, WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE A HUGE BENEFIT FOR THE GOLF COURSE. AND THIS IS THAT STEP TOWARD HELPING THE GOLF COURSE TO BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS WAS DONE RIGHT, THAT WE STOPPED THE PROCESS THAT SUCH AS WE DID PREVIOUSLY. AND THIS IS A MUCH BETTER RESULT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? HEARING NONE. I WILL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. IF THERE'S MR. PRINCE. JUST ONE COMMENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, MR. ROBERTS. I WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE BECAUSE I WAS LIAISON DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF GETTING IT DONE RIGHT. IT JUST BASICALLY DIDN'T WANT TO DIDN'T WANT IT TO STALL AND NOT MAKE PROGRESS. SO THEY WERE CERTAINLY UPSET WITH THAT. BUT I THINK PRETTY UNANIMOUSLY ON THE COMMITTEE, THEY THEY DIDN'T WANT THE CITY TO WASTE MONEY. THEY WANTED IT TO BE DONE RIGHT AND BE DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF SUPPORT FROM THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT I SAW FOR THIS PROJECT. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, KUDOS TO MR. BENEFIELD. AND I KNOW TO YOURSELF AND MR. SOM PUSHING HARD ON US, DOING THE PAINFUL REDO ON THIS, BUT I THINK IN THE END IT WAS IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND ENDED UP WITH A REALLY GOOD RESULT. SO I'M HAPPY WITH WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I WOULD ADD MR. MONAHAN AND MR. JIM KASON AS WELL, WHO WERE ON THE IRRIGATION SUBCOMMITTEE, WHO PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS TOO. SO THANK YOU TO THEM. I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF WHO WILL ACTUALLY BE THERE DAILY. KEEPING AN EYE ON THE PROJECT. IS THAT YOU, GREG? GEORGE? I'LL BE THERE DAILY, BUT VICTOR PROBABLY CAN ANSWER IT IN MORE DETAIL. SO I'LL PRETTY MUCH BE THERE. KIND OF MOSTLY LIKE TWO DAYS PER WEEK. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STAFF WHO IS ACTUALLY WELL VERSED IN HDPE PIPE, WHO IS ABLE TO INSPECT AND LOOK AT WELDS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO GET INSPECTION REPORTS FOR WHAT THEY'RE FUZING AND ALL OF THAT AS FAR AS OUR EFFLUENT DISPERSAL DURING THIS TIME OF CONSTRUCTION, HOW WILL THAT IMPACT OUR DAILY AVERAGES? AND I GUESS WE'LL BE PUSHING MORE TO CEDAR BREAKS. CURRENTLY, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY INTERRUPTIONS IN IRRIGATION. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY WE WENT TO A NEW PUMP HOUSE AND KIND OF WENT THAT DIRECTION WAS TO KEEP THE CURRENT IRRIGATION LIVE WHILE WE'RE REPLACING IT. THAT'S GOOD. [00:30:01] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. BENNEFIELD? I'LL LET GO. PAUL ROBERTS COMMENTS I TOTALLY AGREE THAT CREDIT NEEDS TO BE MET. CREDIT DESERVES. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATED MR. ROBERTS AND MR. SOM LISTENING TO ME AND TAKING MY CONCERNS SERIOUSLY. I WASN'T ON CITY COUNCIL SO THEY THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME. AND SINCE THAT TIME I CAN I CAN JUST SAY THAT PAUL PRINCE AND MR. SOM AND JIM CASON AND TOM MONAHAN AND OTHERS THAT SERVED ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. AND I DON'T WANT TO UNDERESTIMATE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THAT. VICTOR. I THINK WHAT GOT US TO THE LAST APPROVAL VERSUS TODAY IS NIGHT AND DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE NEVER APPRECIATE THE THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN YOU DO, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ASKED, THE EMAILS THAT YOU HAVE SENT. BUT I CAN JUST TELL YOU, AND I HOPE, I HOPE MANAGEMENT'S LISTENING IS THAT IT WAS TOP TIER. IT WAS. I WORK WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECT FROM THE VERY BEST TYPE OF EMPLOYEE THAT I'VE EVER HIRED. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK. YOU KNOW, I WENT OUT OF MY WAY TO CALL THE CONTEXT, MUCH LIKE MR. FRENTZ ASKED. AND FIRST THING THAT EACH OF THEM TOLD ME WAS, I'VE ALREADY SPOKE TO THE CITY. I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE CALLING. AND I SAID, I'M JUST. I'M JUST GLAD THAT THE CITY IS DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, PAUL ROBERTS, PSALM, PRINCE ROBERTS, EVERYBODY PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT HAND IN THIS, AND NO DOUBT YOU DID AS WELL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY APPRECIATED. ONLY A COUPLE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT I HAVE IS ON THE CONTRACT. LAST TIME I FELT LIKE COUNCIL WAS NOT PART OF THE CONTRACT AS MUCH AS I THINK THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISAPPOINTMENT WHEN WE SAW THE CONTRACT, IT HAD ALREADY BEEN SIGNED. THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT. THAT'S KIND OF WHEN WE DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS ACTUAL TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH THE CONTRACT. BEFORE THERE'S ANY SIGNING OF THIS CONTRACT, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, AT A MINIMUM, THE SUBCOMMITTEE BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT, POSSIBLY ALL OF COUNCIL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WARRANTY IS INCLUDED. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LACKING IN THE LAST CONTRACT, THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND ANY ROCK CLAUSES THAT COULD CREATE A SCOPE INCREASE WITHOUT US UNDERSTANDING IT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT OR HAVE COUNCIL REVIEW IT, NOT TO DELAY THE PROCESS, BUT JUST AN EMAIL THAT SAYS HERE IT IS. YOU GUYS HAVE THREE DAYS TO GIVE ME A THUMBS UP OR SOMETHING. AND YEAH, AND THEN JUST AS YOU HIT MAJOR MILESTONES IN THE IN THE PROCESS, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO KEEP THE SUBCOMMITTEE ACTIVELY ENGAGED SO THAT IF THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE ON THE FLY, THAT YOU COULD JUST RELY ON US TO, YOU KNOW, HELP COUNSEL YOU AS YOU DO THIS $4 MILLION PROJECT. I'VE ACTUALLY SO WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I'VE SENT Y'ALL A PREVIOUS EMAIL SAYING THAT THIS IS THE COMMITTEE REPORT AND THEN A PUBLIC FACING ONE. I ACTUALLY JUST WROTE THE OTHER ONE TODAY BASED ON IF THIS WAS APPROVED. SO I'LL BE SENDING THAT OUT LITERALLY WHEN I GET BACK TO THE OFFICE. AWESOME. AND JUST FOR PUBLIC VIEW, YOU KNOW, DAVE STEWART HAS, YOU KNOW, WELL BACK UP ONE, ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR IS TO A CONVERSION TO TYPE ONE EFFLUENT WATER. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY WE WANT TO DO THAT. TYPE ONE, WE'VE GOTTEN BIDS FROM $3 MILLION TO $20 MILLION, AND NOBODY REALLY KNEW WHAT IT WAS AT. BUT, YOU KNOW, DAVE STEWART, HE CAME FORWARD AND HE TOLD US ABOUT SOME TECHNOLOGY, SOME FILTERS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. WE DID. WE'RE GOING TO GET A REPORT ON THAT HERE IN A COUPLE COUPLE MINUTES. BUT THE REASON I WANT TO BRING IT UP, AT LEAST AS A PREFACE HERE, IS THAT IT IT SEEMS LIKE WITH THE REVISIONS TO THIS IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND WITH HIS RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, THAT THERE'S A REAL POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET BOTH TYPE ONE EFFLUENT WATER UP TO A MILLION GALLONS. AND THIS SYSTEM FULLY INSTALLED AND STILL BE UNDER BUDGET. I MEAN, THAT IS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT VICTORY. SO THAT'S A. THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS. I'M OPEN TO A MOTION. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE THE AWARD OR TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTE THE CONTRACT FOR RFP. NUMBER 20 SIX. DASH OH TWO. AS READ INTO THE RECORD, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM OWEN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FROM MISS VAN S, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THE ONE I WOULD SAY IS BACK TO MR. BENFIELD'S POINT. MISS OWEN, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT TO HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEW THE CONTRACT PRIOR TO IT BEING EXECUTED BY THE CITY MANAGER? I [00:35:08] ACCEPT THAT, MISS VANESSA, TO ACCEPT THAT. YES, I ACCEPT THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A AMENDMENT FROM MR. PRINCE. IT'S BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE MOTION. AND A SECOND, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY IS [VIII.2. Consideration and possible action approving Ordinance No. 26-01-15-01 an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Lago Vista, Texas, pursuant to Vernon’s Texas Codes Annotated, Local Government Code, Chapter 102, Sections 102.007(b), 102.009, and 102.010, providing for amendments to Ordinance No. 25- 09-25-01 for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2025 and ending September 30, 2026; declaring that a grave public necessity exists to meet an unforeseen and unusual condition as required by Section 102.009 of the Local Government Code; and providing for Severability, and Effective Date. For the Cedar Breaks pump station replacement and maintenance project.] UNANIMOUSLY PASSED. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO ACTION ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION. APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 6-011501, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA, TEXAS, PURSUANT TO VERNON'S ANNOTATED LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER 102, SECTIONS 12. 007B12 2.0912.010. PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENTS TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 25 092501 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. DECLARING THAT A PUBLIC NECESSITY EXISTS TO MEET AN UNFORESEEN AND UNUSUAL CONDITION AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 102.009 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE CEDAR BREAKS PUMP STATION REPLACEMENT MAINTENANCE PROJECT. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE VANESSA. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, IF I MAY, HE GAVE YOU A REPORT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND Y'ALL ASKED FOR HIM TO GET SOME NUMBERS PUT TOGETHER AND THAT HE DID DO THAT. AND THE QUESTION IS GOING TO COME UP IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. AND MY QUESTION IS MY SUGGESTION IS I WENT BACK, PULLED THE ORDINANCE FOR OUR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED IN JANUARY OF 2024 FOR 23, JUST OVER $23 MILLION AND 5.5 MILLION WAS. OUT OF THAT WAS PUT ASIDE FOR EFFLUENT DISPERSAL AT THE GOLF COURSE, WITH A SAVING OVER 1.5 MILLION. I WOULD SAY THAT UP TO 500,000 BE PUT TOWARDS THE CEDAR BREAKS, BECAUSE THAT IS AN EFFLUENT DISPERSAL DEAL. THIS WILL GET US THE PUMP HOUSE REPLACEMENT AND ALSO GET SOME OF THE OTHER NOZZLES AND MAINTENANCE OUT THERE THAT HAS BEEN LACKING SINCE IT WAS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING IN 2018. YES, SIR. YEAH. SO THERE YOU GO THEN. THE LAST MEETING COUNCIL REQUESTED TO PUT SOME NUMBERS. IT WAS VERY, VERY HECTIC, BUT I WAS I MET WITH CONTRACTORS AND SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT GIVE US BIDS. UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THEM WERE NOT ABLE TO SUBMIT HIM SUCH A, YOU KNOW SMALL TIME. SO I'M NOW PROVIDE THOSE QUOTES YET BECAUSE I'M STILL EXPECTING THEM. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GIVE US GOOD NUMBERS. BUT THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED WERE OPTION TWO WHICH EVERYTHING IS CONTRACTED OUT. SO THESE THESE NUMBERS WERE PULLED FROM CHATGPT FROM PREVIOUS JOBS FROM, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT IT'S. 522,354 $0.75. BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE VERY ROUGH, ROUGH ESTIMATES. I WOULDN'T REALLY HOLD MY BREATH ON THOSE. THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LOT HIGHER, CONSIDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE MARKET. AND THEN THE OPTION ONE IS WHERE WE TAKE A MORE. PEACE APPROACH. AND THIS THIS REQUEST IS LESS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. THE APPROACH, NUMBER ONE, IT ALLOWS US TO DO SYSTEMATICALLY THE REPAIRS THAT WE ALREADY HAD PLANNED, BECAUSE WE WE'RE REALLY NOT EXPECTING TO GET FULL FUNDING ALL THE REPAIRS IN ONE YEAR. SO WE TOOK A A MORE PEACE APPROACH, PEACE IN THE REPAIRS. BUT THE BIGGEST NEED IS THE PUMP HOUSE TO GET EVERYTHING UP TO PAR ON THIS ONE. I WAS ABLE TO GET MORE QUOTES, MORE OF THIS, MORE EXPENSES WE ALREADY HAVE, WHICH IS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE RENTED, THE IRRIGATION REPAIRS THAT WE ALREADY DONE AROUND THE BERM, AND SOME PARTS THAT WERE THAT WE REPURCHASED. IT COMES OUT TO 58,123. AND THAT'S NOT THERE'S STILL MORE INVOICES COMING. AND THAT GOES THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION TO MR. THE MAYOR ASKING WHAT EXPENSES WE'RE GOING TO REPLENISH WHEN WE REQUESTED THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IS TO REPLENISH SOME OF THAT BECAUSE CURRENTLY ON MY LAST CHART, IT KIND OF BREAKS DOWN WHAT I CAN USE AS AN O&M, WHICH IS THE RENTAL, THE MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, IRRIGATION, THE THINGS THAT I CAN I CAN USE TO REPAIRS. AND WITH THIS BUDGET, WE WE USE IT TO MAINTAIN TWO EFFLUENT AREAS, WHICH IS ALL THE PONDS, THE PUMP HOUSES, THE IRRIGATION LINES AND EVERYTHING. SO THE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL FUNDS IS TO REPLENISH THAT, BECAUSE WE ALREADY THE AMOUNT THAT WE GRANTED WAS 174,000 DURING BUDGET SEASON. SO WE ALREADY SPENT ABOUT HALF OF THAT. SO BY THE END OF THE YEAR WE ONLY HAD 33% OF OUR BUDGET. BUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE'LL BE WITHOUT MONEY. AND THAT'S IF NOTHING ELSE BREAKS SIGNIFICANTLY, A PUMP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, WHICH IS 100,000, WILL HELP KEEP US COMPLETE UNTIL THE TO THE END OF THE YEAR, AND IT CAN BE UTILIZED TO CONTINUE THE REPAIRS FOR CEDAR BREAKS. I ALSO COUNCIL REQUESTED TO GET QUOTES FOR SCADA. THE OPERATOR CANNOT GIVE [00:40:04] US AN ESTIMATE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PUMP, THE SCHEMATICS AND ALL THAT, SO HE'S REALLY HESITANT TO IT. BUT BASED ON THE NEEDS THAT WE HAD FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, WE KIND OF ESTIMATE ABOUT 20,000. ALSO, AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL TO GET SOME TYPE OF EQUIPMENT TO HELP US MOVE THINGS FASTER, WE LOOKED INTO THE MULCHING HEAD ATTACHMENT FOR SKID STEER, WHICH WE HAVE. SKID STEERS COMES OUT TO 25,395 $0.26, AND THAT IS A BIBLE QUOTE. AND IT'S IN THE PACKET. AND THE PUMP STATION COMES AT 247,242 WITH $0.25, COMES OUT TO A TOTAL OF 394,631 CENTS. I DID NOT READ THE BOARD, THE COUNCIL BOARD UNTIL TODAY. SO BUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE THERE. MAYOR, ASK ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE. WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THEM TO GET ANY FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE HAD NOTHING TO SHOW THEM UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. SO ONCE WE GET TO A GOOD POINT, WE'LL REACH OUT TO SEE WHAT WHERE WE ARE, WHAT ELSE THEY EXPECT, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND THAT QUESTION WAS SO WE'RE NOT TIED TO ANY SORT OF PLAN THAT WE HAD ALREADY GIVEN TO TCDC. WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM ANYTHING. NO, BUT WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THE VIOLATION AND SIGNED IT AND GAVE IT BACK TO THEM. CORRECT. OKAY. PACKAGE ONE, IT ALLOWS US TO JUST SYSTEMATICALLY, LIKE I SAID, CONTINUE TO MAKE THE REPAIRS THAT WE HAVE. THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ON, ON ON THE O&M, HOW WILL KEEP US FROM NEGLECTING? WE'RE NOT NEGLECTING BUT NOT TAKING CARE OF OTHER MAINTENANCE ASPECTS OF THE CITY. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE UTILITIES ASSISTED PLAN OPERATIONS. IT'S A LARGE GROUP. SO THEY'RE WORKING ONE WEEK OFF AT CEDAR BREAKS AND ANOTHER WEEK AT A ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE CITY. THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO DO THE JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, PLANNING TYPICALLY, AND TESTING VALVES AND HYDROS AND ALL THAT IS ONE WEEK, AND THEN WE GIVE THE CITY A BREAK SO THEY DON'T GET SO UPSET BECAUSE WE CUT OFF THE WATER. WE TEST THAT. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK OR TWO WEEKS LATER, THEN WE GO BACK AND DO THE REPAIRS. SO WE TAKE THAT APPROACH SO THAT THAT WEEK THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WE TASKED THE STAFF TO DO THE THINGS WE WE KIND OF WE CAN GO BACK TO CEDAR BREAKS AND CONTINUE THE REPAIRS. SO YOU NORMALLY ROTATE TIME OFF. SO THIS IS A NORMAL PROCEDURE. AND THEN YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE FILLING IN THAT NEXT WEEK WITH THE TRAIL WORK. YES, YES. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. BUT TALKING TO STAFF MEMBERS AND THE SUPERINTENDENT AND EVERYBODY ELSE WE BELIEVE APPROACH ONE IS THE BEST OPTION. JUST BECAUSE IF WE GRANT IT THE WHOLE FULL AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE WHOLE JOB AND GET THE CONTRACTORS ON SITE AND EVERYTHING. SO THIS APPROACH WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO DO, TO MAKE THE REPAIRS THAT WE NEED TO THE FUNDS TO CHIP THE THE BRUSH THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, GET REPAIRS GOING AND BE REALLY AHEAD ON A TIMELINE AND PREPARE FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR AND BE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FOR NEXT YEAR. WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ANYTHING, WE MIGHT NOT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. COUNCIL. YEAH, FROM THE FUNDING AND I APPRECIATE, MR. WEST, YOU SAYING, YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT MONEY IN OUR CEO TO PAY FOR IT. I. AS A GENERAL RULE, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO LOOK AT. MORE, MORE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE APPROACHES FOR FUNDING THINGS IF POSSIBLE. AND I'LL JUST USE THIS EXAMPLE. I THINK, ACROSS ALL OF THE UTILITY FUND. I WAS LOOKING AT THIS EARLIER TODAY, SO I MIGHT BE OFF IN MY NUMBERS, BUT THE TOTAL MASS FOR ALL OF UTILITY FUND IS A VERY LARGE NUMBER. I WANT TO SAY IT'S OVER $4 MILLION FOR ACROSS ALL OF THE UTILITY FUND. AND IF I JUST LOOK AT THE SEWER FUNCTION OF M AND O, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 2.2 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT NOW, THIS SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT, THE M AND O NUMBER IS MUCH SMALLER, AND THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN ABSORB THIS WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET ACROSS M AND O FOR THE ENTIRE, AGAIN, THE ENTIRE SEWER FUNCTION FOR FOR UTILITY, I THINK YOU GUYS UNDERSPENT YOUR BUDGET BY LIKE $250,000 LAST YEAR FOR ALL M AND O. AND THE REQUEST FOR THIS YEAR IS ACTUALLY AN INCREASE OVER WHAT YOU WHAT YOU SPENT LAST YEAR. RIGHT. AND SO I HAVE TO BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THREE MONTHS INTO IT, BUT I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PLACES IN YOUR OVERALL MAP WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO UNDERSPEND BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE IT'S IT'S TEMPTING TO JUST LOOK AT THE CO FUNDS, WE KNOW, AS MISS OWEN HAS REMINDED [00:45:01] US MANY, MANY TIMES, WE'RE WAY OVERSUBSCRIBED ON THE PROJECTS WE NEED TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF TO BE LOOKING AT. ARE THERE SOME PLACES WITHIN YOUR BUDGET NOW? YOU KNOW, IF I LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL POLICY WITHIN A DEPARTMENT, CITY MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE FUNDS WITHIN A DEPARTMENT, TO MOVE THEM BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS, REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF THESE INCREASES AND THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUE. THE THING WE APPROVED LAST LAST MEETING AS WELL, RIGHT. FOR THE FOR THE LAST YEAR, I WOULD LIKE US TO BE KIND OF BY HABIT, AS WE'RE SAYING, THIS DEPARTMENT IS OVER AND WE NEED TO INCREASE ITS, ITS ALLOCATION. LET'S LET'S REALLY TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT STAFF AS STAFF AT WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHERE COULD WE REDUCE TO OFFSET THIS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST RAISING THE TOTAL TOTAL FOR THE BUDGET? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STUFF ALWAYS HAPPENS AND BUT YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE UTILITY FUND BUDGET, IT'S IT'S PRETTY BIG. AND THERE ABSOLUTELY ARE GOING TO BE SOME PLACES, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HISTORY, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PLACES WHERE YOU GUYS UNDERSPEND AND MOVING THAT AROUND WOULD BE MY MY PREFERENCE TO SAYING WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT OUT OF THE CEO MONEY. AND MY QUESTION FOR I'M YOU WAS, JUST NOT AWARE OF THIS CONCEPT OF REPLENISHING. AND MAYBE IT WAS JUST A SEMANTICS WORD USE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT A CONCEPT THAT I'M AWARE OF IN BUDGET AMENDMENTS. YOU KNOW, IF ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT ASKS FOR US TO REPLENISH SOMETHING THAT THEY LOOK LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO BUST THE BUDGET ON, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TREAT THAT. BUT SO MR. PRINCE'S POINT IS KIND OF DIFFERENT. YOU IT'S JUST THIS ONE AREA THAT YOU ARE OVERSPENDING. BUT IN THE TOTALITY OF THE UTILITIES YOU HAVE MORE OPTIONS. SO I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD THERE. MR. JABARI, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, VICTOR. I MEAN, FOR GETTING THIS TOGETHER SO QUICKLY. I KNOW WE WE ONLY GAVE YOU LESS THAN A WEEK. REALLY? I KNOW THAT YOU ACTUALLY TOTALED SOME OF THE EXPENSES YOU'VE ALREADY USED. OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER HAS BEEN HAD ACTUALLY INQUIRED ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT WAS ACTUALLY COSTING. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THE GRAPPLES LOOK LIKE THAT WAS PRETTY EXPENSIVE AND THE IRRIGATION REPAIRS WERE PRETTY EXPENSIVE AS WELL. ONCE THE MAINTENANCE GETS DONE OR ONCE THIS CLEAR OUT GETS DONE, YOU SAID THAT THE MAINTENANCE FEES OR THE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR STAFF WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS CORRECT GOING FORWARD. I MEAN, IT WON'T REQUIRE YOU GUYS OUT THERE ALL THE TIME. Y'ALL WON'T BE OUT THERE EVERY DAY HAVING TO MANUALLY TURN EVERYTHING ON. ANOTHER CONCERN, LAST MEETING YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE DIDN'T WANT A PIECEMEAL. AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN PIECEMEAL A LITTLE BIT. BUT THAT'S NOT REFERRING TO THE PUMP STATION, RIGHT. THE PUMP STATION IS THE ALL IN ONE, ONE AND DONE KIND OF THING. CORRECT. THE PUMP HOUSE IS ON ONE PIECEMEAL MEANING THE REPAIR OF OF THE CEDAR BREAKS. YES. THE IRRIGATION OUTSIDE THE CLEARING OF THE TRAILS AND THE AS YOU COME ALONG TO IT, AS YOU MOVE THAT WE CAN BE AS WE CAN. Y'ALL ARE ALREADY OUT. I MEAN, I SEE YOU OUT THERE. I'M IN TO SARAH. SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE ALREADY. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN SOME NEW PUMP HEADS OR COME BACK ONLINE THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY OFF, WHICH HAS GARNERED A LOT OF ATTENTION FROM THE RESIDENTS, TO THEIR DISMAY. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS AWARE OF WHEN I PURCHASED THERE, AND I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY THAT THEY'RE BACK ONLINE, BECAUSE NOW WE CAN BECOME COMPLIANT. THE SKATER YOU SAID THAT THAT IS UNABLE TO BE VERIFIED RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS JUST THE KIND OF THE SOFTWARE THAT Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT ONCE. IT CAN BE PUT ON ON AFTERWARDS. SO IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S MORE THAN A SOFTWARE. I MEAN, FOR SIMPLE TERMS IT IS, BUT IT'S CONNECTIONS AND COMPONENTS THAT NEEDS TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE PUMP HOUSE TO PUMP SCHEMATICS AND PROGRAMING AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. BUT YES, WE'RE STILL TALKING. THIS IS GOING TO COME WITH A FIVE YEAR WARRANTY, NATURAL DISASTER. ALL THAT THAT ONE'S THAT ONE'S DIFFERENT. THE SEPARATE SEPARATE FROM THE PUMP HOUSE. YEAH OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TOTALLY SLOWING THIS DOWN IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY. SO I DO WANT TO I APPRECIATE BECAUSE COUNCILOR PRINCE AND I WERE GOING BACK ON THE FORUM, RIGHT, FIGURING THIS OUT. SO AS IT STANDS NOW, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE FOR THE 394,638. I MEAN, BASICALLY THE FIRST OPTION. CORRECT? RIGHT. AND SO THAT NUMBER REPRESENTS ALL OF THE CURRENT BUDGET PLUS 100,000. IS THAT THE DEAL? NO, NO OKAY. THIS REPRESENTS THE INCREASE OF THE NO OKAY. INCREASE. SAY THAT AGAIN IT REPRESENTS AN INCREASE ON THE NO OKAY. AND SO TOTAL WITH THE NO NOT EVERYTHING BUT JUST THE THE ONE ON THE ON THE O AND M PART 175 PLUS THE THREE. [00:50:09] YEAH OKAY OKAY OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COUNCILOR PRINCE RIGHT. THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK FOR RATHER THAN REPLENISH AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. AND I MEAN, I'VE GOT THE SPREADSHEET IN FRONT OF ME HERE AND THE I THINK IT'S DEPARTMENT 577 IS WHERE THE BUDGET INCREASE WAS I BELIEVE. SO IS THAT IN THERE. AND THERE'S, THAT'S THE EFFLUENT DISPOSAL. BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT 250,000 HERE AND 200,000 THERE. AND SO WHEN WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL TOGETHER, IT'S A PRETTY BIG CHUNK OF MONEY. AND IF IF YOU REALLY AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITHIN THAT OVERALL FOR AND I CAN SEE AN ARGUMENT FOR SAYING OVERALL WITHIN, MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE FROM WATER TO TO DO THIS, BUT OVERALL JUST WITHIN THE, THE, THE WASTE PART OF WASTEWATER SERVICES PART AND ALL THE RELATED FUNCTIONS INSIDE UTILITY, IT'S A PRETTY BIG NUMBER. AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT FIT WITHIN THAT EXISTING BUDGET. MAYBE YOU CAN'T, BUT BUT I THINK THAT IT HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT. AND TO COUNCILOR OWEN'S PART POINT, WE NEED TO DO THIS. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO GET STARTED ON THIS, BUT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN ALLOCATING MONEY FROM A C-O BOND TO COVER THIS, WE WANT TO TRY TO ASK STAFF TO BE CREATIVE IN SAYING, IS THERE SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE UTILITY FUND THAT CAN ABSORB SOME OF THIS ADDED EXPENSE? YEAH, MY MY ONLY CONCERN THERE IS WE MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. ON SAVING THE MONEY, BECAUSE ALL THE PROJECTS ARE BUDGETED OUT FOR FOR THEIR PROJECTS WITH THE INTENT OF USING ALL THAT FUNDING. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE AND WE SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE MONEY HERE. SO WHAT PROJECTS ARE WE GOING TO CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET THAT ARE ALREADY BUDGETED? WELL, MY PUSHBACK WOULD BE LAST YEAR, OH, WAS WAY UNDERSPENT FROM BUDGET. RIGHT. AND SO YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S TO SAY THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN THIS YEAR. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS GOING ON WITH THE PRESS. YOU KNOW, WE WE RECEIVE SOME POS. THAT PRESS HAS SEEN BETTER DAYS. WE HAVE A PUMP HOUSE, THAT EFFLUENT POND, 17 SOME PUMPS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT COST. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE INVOICE FOR THE EMERGENCY REPAIR OF THE LIFT STATION. TWO PIPES BLEW UP INSIDE THE WET. WELL, WE STILL HAVE TO GET GET TO RECEIVE THAT INVOICE. WE HAVE TO GET TO RECEIVE THE INVOICE FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT REPAIR, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. SO YEAH, IT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE DEBT IF WE UNDERSPENT THIS YEAR AND YOU'RE ABLE TO FUND THIS PROJECT OUT OF THAT. BUT MY CONCERN IS, IS KNOWING THE HISTORY OF OUR BELT PRESS, WHICH IS YEAH, IT PROBABLY HASN'T WORKED HALF THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON STAFF HERE SEVEN MONTHS. AND IT WENT DOWN AGAIN THE OTHER DAY. CORRECT? YES. SO AND EVERY TIME IT GOES DOWN, THAT IS AN ADDED COST THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE BUDGETED FOR ON TRUCKING THE SLUDGE OUT OF THE PLAN. SO THAT THAT RUNS INTO A BIG EXPENSE IN A REAL QUICK PERIOD OF TIME. SO I MEAN, STAFF IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THE PUMP HOUSE ORDERED, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO THERE'S A LEAD TIME ON THAT. YES. SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GET THAT ORDERED. AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR MAINTENANCE DONE OUT THERE AT CEDAR BREAKS. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE VIOLATIONS. AND WE HAVE ALL OF THE CEDAR BREAKS UP AND OPEN AND RUNNING. SO PART TIME, I BELIEVE YOU STILL. WE'RE GOING. YES. THANK YOU AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SLOWING THIS PROJECT DOWN. ALL RIGHT. SO AND ADDED TO THAT, I'M GOING TO SAY EFFECTIVELY IF I SEE THERE'S LIKE 53,500 IN LABOR. RIGHT. WHICH WAS ACTUALLY ON THE SECOND OPTION THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT I WAS APPLYING TO THE FIRST OPTION SO THAT THERE'S A AS COUNCILOR PRINCE AND I BOTH NOTED ON THE COUNCIL FORM THAT THERE IS A STAFFING RIGHT FOR WHICH THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF. WE REALLY ARE LIKE 73,500 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO OPTIONS. SO I BRING THAT UP TO STATE, YOU KNOW, IF FOR SOME REASON AND NOW LISTENING TO WHAT CHARLES WAS JUST LAYING OUT ON OTHER PROJECTS, ETC. IF STAFFING HAS COMPETING PRIORITIES OR SITE CONDITIONS BEGIN TO AFFECT THE SCHEDULE AND THE WORKLOAD, AT WHAT POINT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND REASSESSING THE APPROACH? RIGHT, IN TERMS OF BRINGING IN? AND WOULD THAT BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL, OR WOULD YOU ALL JUST, [00:55:05] YOU KNOW, INFORM COUNCIL IN REGARD? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE 40 WEEKS RIGHT. AGAIN DON'T WANT TO SLOW THIS DOWN. NEEDS TO GET DONE. SO APOLOGIZE. DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION WHEN WOULD I COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO REASSESS THE FUNDING. NO NO NO NO NO. IN TERMS OF IF WE WERE TO GO WITH OPTION ONE RATHER THAN OPTION TWO, WHICH TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING. RIGHT. BUT THAT IS COMMITTING OUR INTERNAL STAFF, RIGHT. IF WE HAVE OPTION ONE. SORRY. OPTION ONE. CORRECT. RIGHT. IF WE GO WITH THAT ONE, IF OUR STAFF AVAILABILITY ENDS UP BASICALLY IF OUR STAFF ON THAT ROTATING SCHEDULE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GETS PULLED BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, HOW DOES THAT THEN IMPACT THIS CURRENT PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR WOULD WE REASSESS OR. I MEAN, I'M JUST AGAIN, THINKING DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT, IS THERE AN OPTION TO COME BACK AND GO, OKAY, REENGAGE? BECAUSE AGAIN, FOR THE TIMELINE TO GET THIS THING DONE, WE ARE TALKING. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE 73,500 IN SAVINGS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND GET THIS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR THE RESIDENTS. ET-CETERA. AND PLUS, WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE NOW COMING UP THAT ARE GOING TO DEMAND THAT TIME. THERE WE GO. YEAH. OPTION ONE, IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY HELP THE TIMELINE BECAUSE WE WOULD REACH OUT. WE HAVE RECEIVED BIDS ON ON CHIPPING AND SOME RANGING FROM 20,000 TO $100,000 AND HIGHER. THAT'S WHAT THAT KEEPS COMING IN. AND THE IRRIGATION REPAIRS RANGING FROM 60,000 TO 150,000. I'M WAITING FOR MORE. THAT WOULD GIVE ME MORE TIME TO GET MORE APPROPRIATE BIDS AND WHATNOT, BUT IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HELP US ON THE TIMELINE TO GET RIGHT PLACE TO. IF WE HAVE ANOTHER EMERGENCY, WE'RE ABLE TO PULL THE STAFF FROM THAT AREA TO REPAIR. IT ALSO GIVES US THE TIME TO PREPARE A MORE A BETTER APPROACH FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR IF WE HAVEN'T FINISHED. BUT THE GOAL IS TO FINISH THIS YEAR, AT LEAST BE CLOSE TO FINISHING THE REPAIRS WITH THE STAFF WE HAVE. YEAH. OPTION TWO DUE TO THE AMOUNT AND EVERYTHING, IT WOULD ALSO TAKE A RFP. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AN RFP ON THAT, WHICH WOULD ALSO TAKE ENGINEERING AND IT WOULD ADD MORE. THERE'S MORE COST ADDED THERE THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THAT ESTIMATE OKAY. SORRY. THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE OF A QUESTION FOR EITHER NORMA OR MR. PRINCE WHEN IT COMES FROM LIKE PULLING THIS BOND MONEY, AS MR. WEST IS SUGGESTING, THERE'S NO GOING BACK AND PUTTING THAT MONEY BACK IN THE POT IF, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE PULLING ANYWHERE ELSE. RIGHT. IT JUST HAS TO BE COMPLETELY THERE. AND WHEN YOU PULL IT, IT'S DONE. CORRECT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IF WE WIND UP BEING OVER NOT SPENDING FROM THOSE BUDGETS, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, WHAT IF WE WIND UP WITH $250,000 EXTRA AGAIN NEXT YEAR THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND OUT OF OUT OF THAT FUND, AND THEN WE CAN'T JUST GO THROW THAT BACK INTO THE BOND. I WILL SAY IN ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD IS THAT THE CO BOND IS MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE ON ITS FUNDING. RIGHT? ALL THE CO BOND WAS WIDE ENOUGH FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MANEUVER SOME OF THESE AFFLUENT PROJECTS. SO, YOU KNOW, A CASE CAN BE MADE THAT OUR FUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WOULD BE PULLING FROM HAS MORE FLEXIBILITY IN ITS ABILITY TO MANEUVER THAN OUR CO BONDS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IF WE USE UTILIZE THE CO BONDS VERSUS EITHER WAY I'M GOING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO USE ALL OF THAT BY THE WAY. AND WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP IS JUST A MATTER OF WHEN AND HOW WE WANT TO MANEUVER THOSE FUNDING INITIATIVES. MY FOLLOW UP IS THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE US SAYS THAT THIS MONEY IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND RESERVES, BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING CO BOND MONEY, DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, EXHIBIT A THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TO GIVE YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY? AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS ARE MORE OF A COMMENT. I THINK IT WAS ASKED WOULD THE BECAUSE OF THE IRRIGATION PROJECT WAS 3.6 WHAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE REST OF THOSE FUNDS SOONER? MY THOUGHT WOULD BE NO, YOU STILL GOT TO SEE THE END OF THIS AFFLUENT PROJECT TO KNOW IF THEY NEED CHANGE ORDERS COME ALONG AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT MONEY. SO I GUESS KIND OF GOES BACK TO YOUR POINT OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR, UNTIL THE END OF THAT PROJECT, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE LEFT IN THAT BOND. BUT DO WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO CHANGE WHAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE, EXHIBIT A TO ALLOW FOR YOU TO EITHER USE THE CO BOND OR TO TO MR. PRINCE'S POINT PLAY WITHIN THE BUDGET. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, JUST AS UTILITY FUND RESERVES, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL. BUT I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY AS LONG AS WE APPROVED THE PROJECT WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM, WE CAN COME BACK LATER AND CHANGE IF WE NEED TO. CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. EVEN A CO BOND IS WRITTEN SOMEWHAT WITH PARAMETERS. CAN YOU TAKE CO BOND MONEY AND JUST PUT IT INTO OUR UTILITY FUND RESERVES. [01:00:06] AND THEN. NO NO NO NO NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT PROJECT. YEAH. NO BUT BUT HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITH THE WAY WE WROTE THIS ORDINANCE. I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE 45, I BELIEVE 45 CAN COME BACK AND AMEND THE ORDINANCE IF WE NEED, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FUND IT OUT OF A UTILITY FUND, RESERVES OR ANYTHING, OR WE NEED THE MONEY, WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE WE NEED TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE INSTEAD OF COMING OUT OF UTILITY RESERVE TO REPAY THE MONEY. OKAY. AND AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE CO CO BONDS DO INCLUDE THE USE OF A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT, CORRECT? YES, YES. SO THIS WOULD BE A PERMISSIBLE PURPOSE. YES. THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE THING IS YOUR CO BONDS WHEN THEY ARE ISSUED WHATEVER ORDINANCE THEY'RE ISSUED UNDER. THERE'S SPECIFIC GUIDELINES ON WHAT THOSE CAN BE USED FOR. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE MORE BROAD THAN WHAT MOST I'VE EVER SEEN. BUT IT DOES WORK ON OUR EFFLUENT SYSTEM. THE WATER PLANT, STREETS AND STUFF. SO I GLOSSED OVER IT. IT SEEMED VERY BROAD, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS STILL OKAY. MY QUESTION FOR MR. BENNEFIELD, I THOUGHT YOU HAD JUST EXPRESSED THE HOPE THAT THE CO BONDS MIGHT GO TOWARDS THE TYPE ONE FLUID FILTERS. DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? NO. OKAY. MR. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE MILLION TO GO ONCE WE GET SOME BIDS ON THAT. YEAH. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT IN THE PAST I'VE ENCOURAGED US TO, RATHER THAN USE RESERVES, USE THE CO BOND WHENEVER WE CAN USE THE C-O BOND. RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE HAVING A DEBATE BETWEEN DO WE USE RESERVES OR DO WE USE C-O BOND, I FEEL STRONGLY IT SHOULD BE C-O BOND BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO USE C-O BOND MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT. HOWEVER, MY PREFERENCE IS TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO USE RESERVE, I DON'T WANT TO USE C-O BOND, I WANT SOME BELT TIGHTENING TO COVER THIS EXPENSE. NOW, IF YOU GUYS ABSOLUTELY CAN'T DO IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, I WOULD I WOULD KIND OF COME DOWN ON THE FLIP SIDE, RIGHT. YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU CAN TIGHTEN THE BELT AND MAKE IT WORK. CHARLES. YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU CAN'T. WELL YEAH I'M WILLING TO GIVE IT OUR BEST GO AT TRYING TO TIGHTEN OUR BELT AND MAKE IT MAKE OUR DOLLARS STRETCH IN THE BUDGET. YEAH, BUT I'VE JUST SEEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE CAN'T AND WE NEED THE MONEY TO COVER THE COST OF THE PUMP HOUSE, I JUST WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO COME BACK AND PULL IT OUT OF CO MONEY, BECAUSE IT ISN'T A LEGITIMATE EXPENSE OUT OF THE CO MONEY, BECAUSE OUR UTILITY RESERVES IS NOT GROWING, IT KEEPS SHRINKING WITH AS MANY PROJECTS AS WE GOT GOING. SO I KNOW I'M BEING DENSE ON THE LANGUAGE AND THE ORDINANCE, BUT CAN WE WRITE THAT FLEXIBILITY INTO EXHIBIT A? CAN WE SAY THAT THE PREFERENCES THAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT COME OUT OF FIRST ATTEMPT OF TIGHTENING THE BUDGET, THEN ORDINANCE, THEN CO BONDS? I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT, BUT MAYBE I CAN AVOID THAT. THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BEEFIER OF AN AMENDMENT THAN ON THE FLY I. I'D BE RELUCTANT TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW. I'D RATHER I'D RATHER I MEAN, I WOULD RATHER GO WITH IT AS IS. AND IF WE NEED TO COME BACK BECAUSE THE THE FUNDING SOURCE NEEDS TO CHANGE, I DON'T I'D RATHER DO IT THAT WAY. I THINK IF YOU WRITE THE ORDINANCE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT THAT IT GOES THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT STEPS, THEN THAT THERE CHARLES AND I, I SUSPECT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR CHARLES, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT IF WE HAD TO GO TO STEP TWO, YOU KNOW, OPTION A DOESN'T WORK. WE'VE GOT TO GO TO STEP B, WE'D STILL WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU AND GET YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT ANYWAY. SO I DON'T YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT WE WOULD MAKE AT THE STAFF LEVEL ANYWAY. MY YOU'RE TALKING MY THOUGHT THEN WOULD BE MAYBE WHOEVER MAKES THE APPROVAL MOTION CAN MAYBE ASK THAT WE CAPTURE THE CONVERSATION THAT MR. PRINCE HAD, THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING TO TRY TO TIGHTEN THE BELT FIRST AT SOME POINT. IF IF Y'ALL ARE OPEN TO THAT. YEAH. LET ME TALK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF MY MOUTH HERE FOR A MINUTE. SO, SO. ANYTIME WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT CAN QUALIFY FOR THE BOND USAGE, WE MIGHT BE WELL SERVED TO USE THE BOND MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT. RIGHT. AND IF WE RUN OUT OF BOND MONEY, YOU KNOW, WE RUN OUT OF BOND MONEY. BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO EITHER BE USING RESERVES OR USING THE BOND, OR WE UNDERSPEND IN SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT, WHICH MEANS THAT MONEY WILL SHOW UP IN THE RESERVES. AND SO TO KEEP THINGS [01:05:03] SIMPLE, AND FOR THE RECORD, SINCE THIS IS A BOND USABLE PROJECT, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY WOULD BE BEST SERVED TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT BEING FUNDED BY THE BOND. AND THEN LET'S, YOU KNOW, AS A SIDE COMMENT TO STAFF, SAY IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO TIGHTEN THE BELT IN ANY PLACE YOU CAN UNDERSPEND ELSEWHERE IN, ESPECIALLY IN O&M DOLLARS. THAT WOULD BE OUR OUR GUIDANCE FROM FROM COUNCIL. MY MY COMMENT ON THAT WOULD BE AND IF THEY COME BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR AND THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERSPENT, WE WILL BE QUESTIONING THEIR NEW BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR NEXT YEAR. I THINK IF THEY COME BACK WITH A HIGHER NUMBER WHEN THEY'VE UNDERSPENT AGAIN, I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET CLOSE THIS YEAR REAL, REAL CLOSE AND MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE OVER THAT CROSS FINGERS WERE UNDER. OKAY, SO CAN I ASK MR. MAYOR? SO WITH THE CURRENT. ORDINANCE, THE WAY IT'S WORDED, RIGHT, ESPECIALLY SECTION ONE HERE ON THE SECOND PAGE. RIGHT. WE'RE AMENDING THE BUDGET. SO IT'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT. BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT'S SAYING WE'RE THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM EXCEPT EXHIBIT A RIGHT. SO IS WHERE. SO AND THAT'S INDICATING IT'S COMING FROM. BUDGET AMENDMENT USING UTILITY FUND RESERVES. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE LANGUAGE OF THE MAIN ORDINANCE IS OKAY. IT'S JUST EXHIBIT A MAYBE WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT VERBIAGE IN THAT LAST PARAGRAPH. CORRECT. TO GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. OR AS COUNCIL OF PRINCE RECOMMENDED. RIGHT. LET'S JUST DESIGNATE THE CO BOND FOR THAT INSTEAD OF UTILITY FUND. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND THEN WHERE'S OUR I GUESS CHECK AND BALANCE TO MAKE SURE THEN IF THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. AND WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY RESERVES RIGHT. TO ENSURE IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. IT'S JUST BRAD SAYING THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO OCCUR. YEAH. IF WE CAN'T STAY WITHIN OUR BUDGET WE'VE GOT TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ANYTHING. OKAY. OKAY. SO I GUESS IS THE QUESTION THEN AMENDING AN AMENDMENT TO THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT UTILIZES UTILITY FUND RESERVES. IS THAT THE SENTENCE WE'RE LOOKING AT? YES, YES. AND TO CHANGE IT TO WHAT I GUESS FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY, FOR THE FOR THE IF IF AN AMENDMENTS CAN BE MADE, I JUST WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT LANGUAGE IS BEING STRICKEN AND THEN WHAT'S BEING REPLACED. I BELIEVE IT'S, SAY, THE SERIES 2024 BOND, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS RATHER THAN UTILITY FUND RESERVE, REPLACE THAT WITH THE SERIES 2024 BOND. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. THAT'S A THAT'S A SIMPLE, CONCISE AMENDMENT THAT I THINK WE CAN HEAR. WE JUST NEED ROBIN OR WHOEVER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE IN THE EXHIBIT A. OKAY. MR. HATFIELD. MR. PRINCE, I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. SO YOU HAVE MY FULL ENDORSEMENT THERE. I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR ARNESTO. AND IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION. ON PAGE 101, YOU HAD YOUR DISCLAIMER OF THE ESTIMATE SAYING THAT DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS, THE FIGURES REPRESENTED ARE HIGH AND THAT THEY'RE JUST BEST GUESSES. DOES THAT APPLY ONLY TO OPTION TWO, OR IS THERE SOME THE SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE APPLY TO OPTION ONE AS WELL? ONLY OPTION TWO. ONLY OPTION TWO. EXCEPT FOR THE INSTALLATION YOU HAVE I THINK WAS $20,000. THAT WAS AN ESTIMATE FOR THE SKATING. SKATING. IT'S STILL AN ESTIMATION, BUT IT'S CLOSER THAN ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE WHAT PREVIOUS WORKS WE HAVE DONE GUESS REPAIRS. I'LL SHARE MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT GOING WITH OPTION ONE. YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT, BY THE WAY. SO MY ONLY CONCERN THOUGH IS AS A CONTRACTOR BY TRADE, I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE PIECEMEAL STUFF OUT BECAUSE I CAN GET INTO A JOB FOR $300,000 AND ONCE I'M THERE, THEN BID B, C AND D ALL THOSE CHANGE ORDERS, THEY GO THROUGH THE ROOF. AND I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN ON THIS DAIS TIMES WHERE WE HAVE VOTED FOR SOMETHING, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE INTO IT FOR X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, AND THEN THERE WAS A CHANGE ORDER, OR THERE WAS A ADDITIONAL WORK THAT HAD TO BE DONE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WERE WAY OVER BUDGET. AND THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN THAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TODAY IS THAT, YES, LET'S GO WITH OPTION ONE FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION. BUT WE GET $320,000 INTO THIS. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE STILL HAVE ALL THESE ADDITIONAL WORK ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, AND THEN WE'RE BEING HIT WITH A MUCH LARGER HIT. AND MY APPREHENSION IS, IS THAT I FEEL LIKE I'M MAKING A DECISION THAT HAS GRAVE CONSEQUENCES, AS IT SAYS IN THE PACKET. RIGHT. SO THE WORD GRAVE GETS MY ATTENTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ACTIONABLE TODAY, BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO IT WITH IMPERFECT [01:10:04] INFORMATION, WHICH MEANS I DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO SAY THESE ARE THE FINAL NUMBERS. AND SO I'LL JUST VOICE THAT CONCERN THAT I'M GOING TO SAY YES, BECAUSE YOU USED THE WORD GRAVE, BUT I'M DOING IT WITH MAJOR APPREHENSION BECAUSE I KNOW HOW SCOPE CREEPS INCREASE WORKS, AND I KNOW HOW EASY IT IS FOR THOSE MEMBERS TO SAY, I KNOW I SAID IT WAS 20, ENDED UP BEING 30. I KNOW I SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE 100, ENDED UP BEING 200. AND THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN I'LL PUT OUT THERE, I APPRECIATE IT. MY PLAN IS TO IF IT GETS APPROVED, HOPEFULLY IT GETS APPROVED TO GIVE REPORTS AND PICTURES AND IMAGES AND MAYBE A FIELD TRIP OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE. THEY'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON THE REPAIRS. CURRENTLY JUST A MONTH, THE HOLIDAYS, THREE WEEKS THAT THEY'VE BEEN THERE. SO TREMENDOUS PROGRESS. ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT TACKS ON TO MR. BENFIELD'S SAY WE DO WIND UP GETTING THESE CHANGE ORDERS OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE FOUND. WOULD WOULD YOU COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO EITHER ACCEPT THESE ORDERS OR POSSIBLY MOVE SOME OF THAT WORK IN-HOUSE ONCE YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S JUST LABOR AND WE CAN POSSIBLY ABSORB SOME OF THAT COST IN INSIDE, WOULD THAT BE AN OPTION FOR YOU? OR SINCE WE'RE KIND OF TIED INTO THIS OPTION ONE, WOULD THAT NOT NOT BE CONSIDERED? I MEAN, IT'D BE AN OPTION OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE LIKE WE'VE SAID, WE'VE SEEN THESE ORDERS THAT GET HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS THAT GET INTO CHANGE. AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE MARKET CHANGES, PRICES CHANGE. LABOR'S KIND OF BEEN KIND OF STEADY. BUT PARTS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH SHIPPING RIGHT NOW. SO WE JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT OF COURSE I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO AND I KNOW MANPOWER IS A PROBLEM TOO, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS ON ANY OF THOSE ADD ONS, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING INTO IT. ABSOLUTELY. HEY, HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU ON YOUR ESTIMATE WITH OPTION ONE? PRETTY CONFIDENT BECAUSE I PLANNED IT FROM LAST YEAR. FOR SOME TIME AND SCHEDULING IT. MAYOR PRO TEM, JUST ONE LAST THING I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WOULD GIVE THE COUNCIL I FEEL A LITTLE MORE ANYWAY, FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT. OR. AND VICTOR THIS A. ALTHOUGH MONTHLY REPORTS OR YELLOW GREEN. AND WE SPENT THIS MUCH MONEY AND WE'RE ON TRACK, I WOULD BE JUST PEACHY KEEN, RIGHT, TO KNOW THAT. ALL RIGHT. AND SO THAT THAT JUST HELPS US GET A FEEL FOR WHAT'S GOING ON UP HERE AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO HAVE US DO A TOUR DAY AND ALL THAT. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION. I'M OPEN TO A MOTION. ACTUALLY. DID I ASK FOR A CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP, BUT IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE'LL BE BACK UP HERE. NO DISCUSSION THEN. NOW I'M OPEN TO A MOTION. THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, I THINK, BUT I DO WANT TO SUGGEST THAT WE CAPTURE IN THE MOTION WHAT'S IN OUR IN OUR EXHIBIT A, THERE IS AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT SHOWS AN AMENDMENT TO ADD 390, 4000, ETC. RIGHT IN IN EXPENSE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALSO THE LINE ITEM THAT SHOWS AN INCREASE IN REVENUE BECAUSE OF THE TRANSFER FROM THE C-O BOND INTO. THAT'S HOW HOW WE WOULD WE WOULD KNOW IT'S A NET NET ZERO. RIGHT. SO THE THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, I THINK, TO INCREASE THE REVENUE TO OFFSET THIS INCREASE IN SPENDING. AND THE METHOD THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED IS TO TO DO IT AS A TRANSFER FROM THE C-O BOND. I SECOND THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A YEAH, MAYBE A MOTION. I'LL TRY THIS. SO I, I, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2601 DASH 15 ZERO ONE WITH TWO MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXHIBIT A ATTACHED TO THAT ONE IS THAT THE LANGUAGE WOULD SAY THAT THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THE 2024 C-O BOND RATHER THAN THE UTILITY FUND AS, AS IS IN OUR PACKET. AND THEN THE SECOND WOULD BE THAT STAFF IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC ACCOUNT NUMBER AND AMOUNT BEING TRANSFERRED INTO FROM THE C-O BOND TO OFFSET THIS INCREASE IN SPEND. I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. PRINCE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. OH THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. RIGHT. OR WHATEVER I WILL SECOND ALSO THIRD WHATEVER. I HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. O'BRIEN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? [01:15:07] SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK [VIII.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. 26-2192 to give the City Manager authority to work with and contract with Travis County on SB 3 funding for emergency sirens and to notify Travis County we are ready and willing to participate in the funding program.] YOU. ALL RIGHT. ON TO ACTION. ACTION ITEM NUMBER THREE. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION. RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 2192. TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER AUTHORITY TO WORK WITH AND CONTRACT WITH TRAVIS COUNTY ON SB THREE FUNDING FOR EMERGENCY SIRENS AND NOTIFY TRAVIS COUNTY. WE ARE READY AND WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FUNDING PROGRAM. THIS IS MY ITEM. I DISCUSSED IT AT THE WORKSHOP EARLIER THIS MONTH. AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO REMOVE ANY PROCEDURAL BUREAUCRATIC SLOWDOWNS THERE MIGHT BE FOR US IN GETTING THE FUNDING FOR POTENTIAL EMERGENCY SIRENS. IT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM. WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW YET, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WHEN THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS WE HAVE TO ENTER INTO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH TRAVIS COUNTY. TRAVIS COUNTY WILL RECEIVE THE FUNDS FROM THE STATE. I'VE HEARD THAT THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THEM. THEY JUST NEED TO BUILD OUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEIR PROGRAM. SO WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES IS AS THEY'RE BUILDING THAT OUT SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DELAY WAITING ON COUNCIL. IT WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO GO WORK WITH THEM AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS WE WOULD NEED TO DO. THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO DONE, NEED TO BE DONE, AS TO IDENTIFY LOCATION OF ANY SIRENS, WHAT THE COST, WHO THE VENDOR IS. AND I WOULD ASK THE TRIALS, AND I THINK HE WOULD CLEARLY COME BACK AND TALK TO COUNCIL ABOUT THAT. BUT THIS IS JUST TRYING TO REMOVE ONE BUREAUCRATIC BARRIER SO THAT WE CAN BE FIRST IN LINE FOR THESE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN GO TO THE COMMENTS AND COME BACK. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. DOES ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM MEETING? NONE. BACK TO COUNCIL. NO. NO. MR. BENEFIT HEY, CLEARLY SUPPORT THIS 100%. YOU KNOW, AFTER THE JULY 4TH FIFTH FLOODS, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS OBVIOUSLY SHARED FOR GOOD REASON ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND YOU KNOW, THE SIREN DISCUSSION CAME UP. I THINK YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST TO MENTION THAT GREG ABBOTT HAD PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS OUT. I JUST I'LL TAKE IT SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT NOT ONLY DO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WE GO AFTER THE MONEY, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, EVEN IF WE DON'T GET THE MONEY. MEANING IF WE GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND WE DON'T QUALIFY OR THERE ISN'T THE FUNDING OR IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM GETS LOST. I THINK IT GETS CONSIDERED IN FUTURE BUDGET ITEMS. WE. ARE VERY WE ARE A TOWN THAT HAS A LOT OF LOW WATER CROSSINGS. WE HAVE A LOT OF FRONTAGE ON THE LAKE AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT HUMAN LIFE. I FULLY SUPPORT AND IT JUST TAKES ONE REALLY BIG EVENT. AND I KNOW JULY 4TH DIDN'T HIT LAGO VISTA BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE STORMS AS MUCH AS IT DID OTHER PLACES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN LAGO VISTA HASN'T BEEN AFFECTED BEFORE, AND IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED AGAIN. AND WITH AS MUCH PROXIMITY WE HAVE TO THE LAKE AND LOW WATER CROSSINGS, I THINK THIS IS A CENTRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THIS BECOME A A REALITY FOR LAGO VISTA, REGARDLESS OF THE FUNDING SOURCE, AT SOME POINT IN TIME. SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU. MICHEL. I'D ALSO LIKE TO JUST MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT MY SUPPORT. ALSO, PIGGYBACKING OFF MR. BENEFIELD AND LEADING A LITTLE BIT OF CREDENCE TO MISS VAN NESS, WHO ALSO STATED THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY USE THESE ALARMS FOR NOT JUST FLOOD, BUT POTENTIALLY FIRE AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT IS A BIG CONCERN AMONGST COMMUNITY. SO IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING. AND IF WE CAN GET IT PAID FOR BY SOMEBODY ELSE, I'M ALL FOR IT. BUT IF WE CAN'T, WE DO DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING OUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT. ON HEALTH AND SAFETY HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH BOTH COUNCILOR BENEFIELD AND COUNCILOR CHAVARRIA. I KNOW THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO FLOOD WARNING AND FLOOD GAUGES AND THE ENTIRE SYSTEM THAT GOES INTO THE WARNING, BUT TO ME, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PILOT PROGRAM, ALMOST, IF YOU WILL, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN GET THE FUNDING. AND I AGREE, IF WE DON'T, LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BUDGET FOR IT. BUT LET'S GO FOR IT. AND THEN IF WE NEED WE DETERMINE LATER WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL SIRENS OR CAPABILITIES FOR WILDFIRE TYPE WARNINGS OR TORNADO WARNINGS OR WHATNOT. WE CAN TAKE AN ITERATIVE APPROACH TO GET THAT DONE, BUT THIS IS A GOOD, EXCELLENT FIRST STEP, I THINK, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE SAID, AND I'M VERY EXCITED FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. SO. CHARLES, WHICH WOULD THAT FALL UNDER PUBLIC WORKS AS FAR AS A PROJECT OR. I'M JUST ASKING. SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING. I WAS LOOKING AT IT, BUT. THIS THIS TYPE PROJECT USUALLY FALLS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY. SO FALL [01:20:03] MORE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. AND I STATE THAT TO GO, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS FRONT AND CENTER, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CHAMPION WITHIN THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON TASK. BUT THE OTHER IS MAYOR, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD A DISASTER. READY? REVIEW, AND SHOULD A COMMITTEE BE FORMED AND PUT TOGETHER, COULD THEY POTENTIALLY DO SOME OF THE LEGWORK? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS WOULD GO THROUGH THE GRANTING PROCESS. BUT THEN ALSO, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SOURCE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND FROM WHERE? AND SOME OF THE. THE VARIABLES THAT COUNCILOR VENICE ALSO PUT FORWARD, YOU KNOW, LIKE LIKE COUNCILOR CHAVARRIA WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT ALL BELLS AND WHISTLES CAN WE PUT ON THERE IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS? AND SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. AND IF NOT, THEN MAYBE SOME ASSISTANCE FOR UNFORTUNATE IN ONE INSTANCE THAT I HAVE INSTALLED THREE OF THESE SYSTEMS IN THREE DIFFERENT CITIES. SO I HAVE A LITTLE EXPERIENCE WITH IT. AND THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD VENDORS OUT THERE. THE MAIN THING IS FIGURING OUT WHAT VENDORS ARE GOING TO BE APPROVED FOR THE STATE FUNDING, BECAUSE THOSE VENDORS WILL COME IN AND OVERLAY THE CITY WITH A MAP, WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY AND SAY, YOU NEED A SIREN IN THIS AREA, THIS AREA, THIS AREA. AND THEY CAN USUALLY GET PRETTY GOOD COVERAGE. I MEAN, I'M HOPING THEY GO WITH MECHANICAL SIRENS AND NOT THE ELECTRONIC, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS A MECHANICAL ONES THAT YOU CAN PUT UP AT THE AIRPORT AND COVER THE WHOLE CITY. PRETTY MUCH SO. BUT I DO THINK YOU NEED SOME DOWN IN THE LOWER AREAS JUST TO ENSURE THE COVERAGE. SO. THANK YOU, FRANCO. AND IS THIS IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN? ACTUALLY IT'S NOT BUT. I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE. I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT. BUT ACTUALLY IN REALITY WE USED TO HAVE SIRENS HERE A LONG TIME AGO. SO YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT WE USED TO HAVE TWO OF THEM HERE, AND ONE WAS UP AT THE AIRPORT AND ONE WAS DOWN BELOW BY BARQUET, AND THEY GOT REMOVED AND THEY WERE ON A TRAILER SYSTEM. AND YEAH, WE DID USED TO HAVE THAT SYSTEM. I'VE BEEN THROUGH FOUR FLOODS. I'VE BEEN IN THIS DEPARTMENT. SO OUR WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT WENT ALMOST ALL THE WAY UNDERWATER. SO AT ONE TIME WE WERE DOWN THERE. SO I'VE EXPERIENCED IT. SO BUT YEAH, THERE'LL BE NICE TO GET THAT BACK INTO THE SYSTEM. IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW THOSE LOCATIONS TO SHARE WHEN WE'RE. YEAH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD ONE DOWN IN MARKET. THAT'S THE MAIN AREA ALWAYS GOT FLOODED AND WE HAD ONE AT THE AIRPORT SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR IT. NICE I. JUST A QUESTION. THESE THESE SIRENS, HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO USE THOSE FOR OTHER KINDS OF DISASTERS OR CAN. THEY ARE AN OUTDOOR WARNING SYSTEM. THEY'RE USED FOR MULTIPLE THINGS OKAY. OURS WERE MOSTLY USED FOR WEATHER, BUT THEY COULD BE USED FOR IN THE WAY YOU DO IT IS YOU BLAST IT. IF IT SOUNDS X NUMBER OF TIMES IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME IS HOW YOU BREAK IT UP. LIKE ONE LONG SHOWER RING GOING OFF IS A FLOOD WARNING, TWO IS TORNADO, THREE IS OTHER DISASTERS. IT VARIES. AND THEN YOU THEY'VE GOT THE ELECTRONIC ONES THAT WILL ACTUALLY TALK TO YOU AND SEND OUT MESSAGES AND TALK TO YOU. IT'S I'VE HEARD AS WELL THAT THOSE AREN'T AS GREAT. THEY'RE NOT. YEAH. YEAH. I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC. WE'VE HAD THOSE IN A PREVIOUS CITY THAT I LIVED IN. AND I WILL SAY THAT OUR WE HAD A COMBINATION OF ELECTRONIC AND MECHANICAL, AND OUR ELECTRONIC DID FAIL QUITE A BIT AND IT GOT VERY MUFFLED. BUT I WILL SAY THAT EVEN WITH THE MECHANICAL, IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE NOT ONLY COULD YOU DO LONG PAUSES AND TONES, BUT YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO DIFFERENT TONES. SO IT WAS NOT JUST SET TO ONE LIKE DING, IF YOU SAY SO. I MEAN, SOME OF THEM WERE HIGHER PITCHED, SOME OF THEM WERE LOWER PITCHED AND LONGER. SOME THINK OF IT AS KIND OF LIKE A MORSE CODE THAT JUST AS A REPEATER. AND WE MAGNETS FOR EVERYBODY TO PUT ON THEIR REFRIGERATOR WITH WHAT, WHAT EVERYTHING MEANT WHEN IT WENT OUT WITH THEIR WATER BILL. AND IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET IN ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY AMAZING, AND I HOPE WE GET A GOOD, STRONG HOLD ON IT. DEPENDING ON THE VENDOR THEY COULD AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY ALLOW, THEY MAY REQUIRE US TO DO AN ELECTRONIC VOICE ONE. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THEY WOULD KIND OF GIVE US A LOT OF LEEWAY ON MECHANICAL VERSUS THAT, SINCE WE ARE IN A VERY HIGH WIND POWER LIKE WIND ZONE, THE MECHANICAL WOULD BE PREFERRED IN MY OPINION. I TOTALLY AGREE. I HAD BOTH, AND THE ELECTRONIC ONES ARE THE ONES THAT ALWAYS FAILED. THE [01:25:06] ONLY TIME I'VE HAD A MECHANICAL ONE FAIL WAS BECAUSE THE BATTERIES THAT ACTUALLY POWERED IT WERE NOT BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED IN. ONE OF THE BATTERIES EXPLODED AND IT ATE UP THE RADIO. OH GOSH. BUT IT WAS A SIMPLE FIX. YEAH, AT AN AIRPORT IN GALVESTON WITH JUST BECAUSE IT WAS ACTUALLY ON ONE OF THOSE OLD WOOD TELEPHONE POLES AND GOT HIT BY LIGHTNING. SO THAT'S THE ONLY AND THERE WAS STILL PLENTY THAT ALERTED EVERYBODY FOR THE TORNADOES THAT WERE THERE. JUST ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION AND JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT THESE SIRENS WILL DO, THE THE GRANT APPLICATION REFERENCES SPECIFICALLY FLOOD PRONE AREAS. BUT OBVIOUSLY FIRE IS IS EVEN A GREATER CONCERN HERE. AND THE SIRENS CAN DO THAT. SO IS WILL THE HOW DOES THAT RESTRICT OUR THE WAY WE WILL INSTALL THE SIRENS WHERE WE INSTALL THEM. IT TALKED ABOUT GRANT FLOOD PRONE AREAS, BUT DO WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE WHERE WE PUT THOSE SIRENS. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM BEING AT THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING IS NO, I MEAN, THEY TRY TO PUT THEM IN THE PLACE THAT THE MOST PEOPLE CAN HEAR IT. AND SO I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IT UP AT THE AIRPORT, I DON'T SEE THEM SAYING NO TO THAT BECAUSE THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR IT FROM THAT HIGH ELEVATION. SO IN IN ASSESSING THAT IF THERE IS AN AREA THAT WHERE THAT SOUND MAY NOT REACH THE AREA, THEN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO FURTHER CONSIDER AT A LATER POINT OF ADDING AN ADDITIONAL SIREN. OKAY. YEAH, IF I MAY, MY UNDERSTANDING TOO IS A BIG PART OF THE SYSTEM. ARE THE FLOOD GAUGES THEMSELVES RIGHT? AND THE RELIABILITY AND REDUNDANCY IN THE GAUGES THAT WOULD THEN ALERT ESD AND THE CITY REQUISITE CITY STAFF AND FIRE THE SIRENS OFF. SO THEN MY SENSE IS IF WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT FOR WILDFIRE TOO, IS IS MR. WEST WAS SAYING, THAT'S GREAT, RIGHT? I THOUGHT, WELL, DO WE NEED A WHOLE SEPARATE SET OF SIRENS FOR WILDFIRE? MAYBE NOT. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE CAN DO THE TONES, RIGHT. THE MORSE CODE TONES THAT WILL TRAIN EVERYONE ON. MY SENSE IS THEN FOR WILDFIRE. THEN WE NEED TO GET SOME LOCATIONS FOR CAMERAS IN. THIS IS A WHOLE SEPARATE PROJECT, BUT LOCATIONS FOR CAMERAS THAT CAN VIEW AND TIE THAT INTO THE ESD AS WELL. SO PEOPLE GET THE VISUAL ON POTENTIAL FIRES AND THEN EDUCATE PEOPLE ON REPORTING POTENTIAL FIRES TOO, INTO THE POLICE. SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER SET OF A WHOLE OTHER PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, THIS GREAT STEP, IF WE CAN GET THESE IN AND GET THOSE FLOOD GAUGES IN AS WELL. SO YEAH, AND JUST JUST A FOLLOW UP. I LIVE IN LAKESIDE AT SARAH AND WE'RE QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY FROM SIREN THAT MIGHT BE LOCATED AT THE AIRPORT, AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW FAR THAT SOUND WILL GO, BUT WE'RE WAY DOWN, YOU KNOW, NEAR NEAR THE LAKE. AND SO. SO ANYWAY, I, I AM HAPPY THAT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, FLOOD PRONE AREAS. BUT ALSO IF WE CAN BUILD IN A WARNING FOR FIRES, THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY DESIRABLE AND NEEDED. ANY TIME ANYMORE. I'LL JUST GO AHEAD OF IT. IF EVERYONE HAS ALREADY ASKED ALL THEIR QUESTIONS, THEY'RE READY FOR A MOTION ON THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON RESOLUTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26, 21, 92, TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO WORK WITH AND CONTRACT WITH TRAVIS COUNTY ON SB THREE. FUNDING FOR EMERGENCY SIRENS. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT THAT THIS ITEM BE BROUGHT BACK ON AN AGENDA, ESPECIALLY IF WE DON'T GET THE MONEY. ACCORDING TO WEAVING, IN WHAT COUNCILOR BENEFIELD HAS JUST STATED, I HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM. DO I HAVE A SECOND? NO. MR. HALL SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. BEING NONE. IT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. YOU MAY THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DONE REALLY [X. STAFF AND COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS] QUICKLY, BUT I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS COMING UP HERE. SO WE ARE MOVING TO STAFF AND COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS. I WILL START WITH ROUTINE REPORTS FROM CITY STAFF. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE GOT LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON. ONE OF THE TOPICS IS GOING ON IS WE'VE HAD SEVERAL [01:30:03] RECENT CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC THAT WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL, IS TO GET THE MAYOR TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO START ON AN OUTLINE OF THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC TO HIT US TOWARDS IMPLEMENTING A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS LATELY, AND A VERY LENGTHY ONE WITH JORDAN, AND I'LL LET JORDAN ADDRESS IT IF SHE HAS MORE COMMENTS TO MAKE. I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. WE HAVE AMAZING CITIZENS WHO WANT TO PARTAKE IN THIS. PLENTY OF BOARD SUPPORT AND WANT TO PARTICIPATE THIS IN THIS AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE READY TO KICK OFF AND START DOING THE WORK AND DOING WHAT WE CAN. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION. SO PAUL ROBERTS BROUGHT UP SOME GREAT POINTS, WHICH IS A CONCERN I'VE HAD AS WELL, IS HOW DO WE KIND OF ENSURE CONTINUITY AND THE ABILITY TO COMPARE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ORDINANCE CHANGES RESULTING FROM THE CODE CHANGES? SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE KIND OF A PHASED APPROACH YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, LIKE ELIMINATING REDUNDANCIES ACROSS ORDINANCES, A STEP ONE OR ONES, AND THEN LOOKING AT ONES THAT CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER AND RECONCILING. SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? OUR INTENT AS STAFF IS TO TAKE THE OUTLINE THAT'S AGREED UPON BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND GO CHAPTER BY CHAPTER WITH THE APPROPRIATE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT APPLY THAT APPLY TO THAT SECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A GOOD WAY TO REDLINE THIS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO MATCH. THAT'S THE INTENT OF MOVING TO A UDC. IT'S GOING TO BE NOT IN THE SAME ORDER. IT MAY NOT BE IN THE SAME SECTIONS. IT'S MORE THAN JUST REDUNDANCIES AND LEGISLATIVE COMPLIANCE. SO IT'S INSTEAD OF DOING A REDLINE VERSION OF WHAT WE HAVE THAT WE KNOW DOESN'T WORK. I THINK WE GO CHAPTER BY CHAPTER AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE INDIVIDUALLY IS LOOKED AT THOROUGHLY, BY SUBCOMMITTEE, BY THE BOARD, THAT IT APPLIES TO, BY THE COUNCIL, BY THE ATTORNEY. WE GET THAT WRAPPED UP AND WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, AND WE JUST CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THE AGREED UPON OUTLINE. YEAH, IF I MAY. YEAH, I DO BELIEVE MR. ROBERTS MADE SOME GOOD POINTS, BUT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT LAND USE. LAND USE IS PART OF A ZONING ORDINANCE THAT IS NOT PART OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT'S AN ORDINANCE ALL IN ITS OWN. THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF WHEN Y'ALL GET THE COMP PLAN UPDATED AND STUFF. THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO DO THAT. THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL MEETINGS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY TASK. THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY LENGTHY TASK, ESPECIALLY WITH US TRYING TO KEEP MOST OF IT DONE IN-HOUSE INSTEAD OF CONTRACTING IT OUT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY ELSE TRYING TO WRITE OUR ORDINANCE. AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT STUFF, THIS IS GOING TO DEAL MORE WITH THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS, NOT THE ZONING SIDE. CORRECT. WELL, SO THE ZONING WILL BE A CHAPTER IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THAT CHAPTER AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED SHOULD BE IN THE ORDER OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S A CHAPTER THAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. AND WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THAT CHAPTER, THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S WHEN WE FIGURE IT OUT, BECAUSE WE JUST START TALKING ABOUT NOT DISCUSSING REGULATING PARKING OR DESIGN STANDARDS OR SOMETHING THAT'S AFFECTING EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S TECHNICALLY WRITTEN IN THE CODE. WE HAVE TO TOUCH ZONING AND LAND USE. IT'S NOT TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE REDONE. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT A LOT'S GOING TO CHANGE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT AS A WHOLE. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DONE. AND SO THEY GO HAND IN HAND. IT IS NOT A TODAY. IT'S AN AFTER THE COMP PLAN, WHEN WE'VE MADE IT TO WHATEVER CHAPTER THAT IT MAY FALL IN, WHICH WOULD BE ON THAT OUTLINE THAT WE'VE ALL ESSENTIALLY AGREED UPON. BUT THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN'T TOUCH IT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING. ALL OF THAT GOES INTO DESIGN, AND THAT'S PART OF THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF IT. AND THEY'RE ALL INTERTWINED, WHICH IS THE POINT OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? WELL, WE'LL JUST TO CONTINUE. SO YEAH. SO THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME WAY OF VERSION CONTROLS THE WRONG WORD. I'M GOING BACK TO WHEN I DID COMPLIANCE PROGRAMS FOR BIG BANKS. AND I FORGET WHAT WE CALLED IT. BUT WITH ALL THESE THINGS CHANGING RIGHT. AND AS YOU SAID, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE MAPPING STUFF. AND I THINK THE MAIN THING IS PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE INTENT OF CURRENT ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED, UNLESS IT COMES TO COUNCIL AND WE AGREE THEY NEED TO BE CHANGED, RIGHT? THE INTENT STAYS INTACT WITH WITH THE CHANGE. I THINK THAT'S THE REAL KEY THERE TO ENSURE THAT. OR IF YOU ARE IDENTIFYING WHERE THIS COULD CREATE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE CONFLICTS. AND WHICH WAY ARE WE GOING TO GO ON [01:35:01] THIS. RIGHT. AGAIN, IT CAN BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AND COME TO COUNCIL AND BE DELIBERATED ON. WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT USING THE DISCUSSION BOARD. I FULLY BELIEVE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE A TRANSPARENT PROCESS. IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, NOT THE SAME THING. IT'S THE CHARTER REWRITE. IT MATTERS. IT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S WHAT'S GOVERNING THE CITY. IT HAS TO BE TRANSPARENT. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WILL BE ON DISCUSSION BOARDS. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE OR A BOARD OR COMMISSION, IT WILL BE HELD IN PUBLIC FORUM. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF NOTICE IN ADVANCE, AND THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT THAN WHAT WE INTEND ON DOING. EVEN WHEN WE GO INTO ADOPTION, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO DO A CITYWIDE MAILOUT. SO STATE LAW SAYS IF WE CREATE NONCONFORMITIES, WE GOT TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY THAT IT APPLIES TO, WELL, WE'RE CHANGING OUR ENTIRE CODE. THAT'S THE WHOLE CITY. AND IT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY OWNERS, IT'S RENTERS AS WELL. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS. IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY INVOLVED PROCESS. AND I THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN'T DO IT LIKE THAT. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, COUNCIL HAS COUNCIL. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY YOU'RE OFF YOUR ROCKER. TAKE THIS OUT. WE'RE NOT OKAY WITH IT. AND IT'S OUR JOB TO RESPECT THAT AND TO TO PRESENT SOMETHING ELSE OR, YOU KNOW, FIGURE IT OUT. AND IF WE CAN'T DEFEND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR SOME REASON, THERE'S A PROBLEM, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. AND THAT'S IT'S AN INTERACTIVE PROCESS AND IT'S A WORKING DOCUMENT UNTIL THE END. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WE DID ALSO YOU KNOW COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL SAY. BUT OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED BY NOVEMBER. CORRECT. WASN'T THAT OUR CONVERSATION WAS JANUARY? I THINK THAT IS WHAT I WAS INFORMED OF. AND WE'RE WELL, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO SET THE GOAL AS JANUARY, BUT UNOFFICIALLY WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE DONE BY NOVEMBER. AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT THIS CAN GO THAT FAST IS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE OUTLINE. PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. PEOPLE WILL GET EVERYTHING IN ADVANCE. THERE'S THERE'S A METHOD TO THIS MADNESS. IT JUST TAKES GETTING THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW, JUST FOR SOME CLARIFICATION, I KNOW YOU. I KNOW YOU EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS AND I KNOW THAT MR. PAUL ROBERTS EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS, BUT WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED BETWEEN JORDAN AND MYSELF, MR. PRINCE AND MR. WEST WAS THAT REGARDLESS OF THIS UNIFIED CODE THAT COMES FORWARD, EVERY SINGLE THING HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL REGARDLESS. SO EVEN IF IT IS CHANGING AN ORDINANCE OR REWRITING OR COMING ACROSS, THAT IS THE PREROGATIVE. THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE DOING IT, IS BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY OVERLAPS. THERE'S THERE'S SOME THAT ARE CONFLICT. AND SO IT'S YES, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF NEW STUFF, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE BASED OFF OF THE WANTS OF THE CITY RATHER THAN WHAT WANTS OF FREESE AND NICHOLS OR THE WANTS OF ANOTHER TOWN. SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD PROCESS. THE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THE OVERLAPS. PNC AND BSC HAS A LOT OF OVERLAP, AND SO PARSING THAT OUT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR OWN SUBCOMMITTEES IF THEY WANT, BUT THEY EVENTUALLY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TOGETHER. WHEN WE COME TO THESE CO-WRITES AND REWRITES TO KIND OF COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THAT. AND SO I LIKE I LIKE WHAT CHARLES IS PROPOSING AND THE WAY WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH THIS. AND, JORDAN, I REALLY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH IT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO I, I SAT THROUGH THE THE PLANNING AND ZONING DISCUSSION THE OTHER NIGHT, AND THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE KIND OF REACTING STRONGLY TO WHAT THEY WERE HEARING, FREESE AND NICHOLS SAYING. AND I JUST I WANT US ALL TO BACK UP AND SAY, FREESE AND NICHOLS WENT THROUGH AND SAID, OKAY, YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? YOU GOT YOUR CODE CURRENTLY IS KIND OF A MESS, AND YOU MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED TO DO IT THIS WAY. AND THEN THEY HAD A BUNCH OF SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS. AND WHAT I FOUND HAPPENING IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING DISCUSSION ESPECIALLY, WAS PEOPLE WANTED TO FIND OUT THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THE NEW CONTENT THAT FREESE AND NICHOLS WOULD BE SUGGESTING. WELL, IN FACT, WE'RE NOT ASKING FREESE AND NICHOLS TO WRITE THAT LANGUAGE. RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A NEED FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE TO TO BE LIGHT AND NIMBLE AND MOVE QUICKLY TO DO STEP ONE, WHICH IS SIMPLY AGREE ON WHAT'S OUR APPROACH GOING TO BE FREEZING. NICHOLS HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS OF HOW WE SHOULD ORGANIZE OR COULD ORGANIZE, AND SOME IDEAS FOR YOU MIGHT TRY THIS APPROACH RATHER THAN THAT APPROACH. AND SO I THINK THE TASK OF THE COMMITTEE IS, IS I WOULD I WOULD SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST SHOULD BE WHAT TO DO. AND THEN ONCE WE AGREE ON WHAT TO DO, THEN THERE'S THE DO IT PHASE, RIGHT. AND SO. I THINK THAT IT [01:40:10] WILL BE VERY HELPFUL IF WE SET UP A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES SOME MEMBERS OF PLANNING AND ZONING, SOME MEMBERS OF BUILDING STANDARDS, THE APPROPRIATE STAFF MEMBERS AND SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO GET THROUGH THIS WHAT TO DO PHASE QUICKLY. AND SO THAT'D BE MY SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE IT'S THE IT'S THE CHAIRPERSON OF PLANNING AND ZONING, THE CHAIRPERSON OF BUILDING AND STANDARDS, AND PERHAPS ONE ADDITIONAL MEMBER OF THOSE COMMISSIONS, EACH OF THOSE COMMISSIONS, IF THE CHAIR FEELS STRONGLY ABOUT THAT, AND THEN MAYBE THE LIAISONS FOR THOSE TWO COMMISSIONS FROM COUNCIL AND THEN THE APPROPRIATE STAFFS WOULD MOVE QUICKLY. BUT I THINK ONE, TO ME, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TENANTS IS STAFF SHOULD, THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS HOLD THE PEN RIGHT AND BE LEADING US THROUGH THE PROCESS RATHER THAN RESPONDING TO, YOU KNOW, BUILDING STANDARDS HAS THIS AND PLANNING AND ZONING HAS THIS. AND THE PARKS AND REC PEOPLE HAVE THIS. I THINK THAT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE US TOO LONG TO GET THERE. SO LET'S BE LET'S BE NIMBLE. LET'S, LET'S HAVE THE PARTICIPATION. BUT LET IT BE A STAFF DRIVEN EXERCISE. THANK YOU. TOM. YEAH. JORDAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HEARING US REALLY ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW YOU'VE TAKEN A LOT OF PHONE CALLS. AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BEND YOUR EAR ON OCCASION ON THIS, TOO. BUT I AM GOING TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILOR VAN SAID, AND THAT IS WHERE YOU GET THE ANXIETY IN THE COMMUNITY. IS THAT THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCES DO CARRY OVER. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT RED, YELLOW, GREEN OR SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YEAH, SOME WAY TO REPORT ON A REGULAR BASIS. YOU KNOW, HERE WE WERE AND THIS IS HOW WE TOOK IT. AND THEN POTENTIALLY JUST A SNAPSHOT AND HERE'S HOW IT CARRIED THROUGH I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M ASKING MAY BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF TIME, BUT FINDING A WAY TO HELP COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WHAT WAS INTENDED THROUGH THOSE ORDINANCES DO REMAIN IN THIS CHANGE. ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT WE WILL FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT PER CHAPTER, THERE IS SOME KIND OF SUMMARY OR THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU, MR. BENFORD. JORDAN. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE CO-DIAGNOSTICS WAS BECAUSE WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES, THERE WAS A LOT OF AMBIGUITY. THERE WAS A LOT OF ONE SECTION SAYS THIS AND ANOTHER SECTION SAYS THIS. SO I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN REWRITE OR DO A CO-DIAGNOSTICS WITHOUT HAVING TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE MANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE, OR ELSE YOUR FINAL PRODUCT WILL STILL BE CONTRADICTIVE TO EACH OTHER. THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT GOES INTO IT, AND IT'S, I THINK A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME, I'M NOT SURE ON THE EXACT DATE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT SOME OF OUR CODES DON'T REFLECT THE CURRENT COUNCIL'S VISION AND DIRECTION. AND SO I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S A QUESTION. IT'S A HEY, HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THIS TOPIC? DO WE STILL HATE DARK SKIES OR DO WE LOVE DARK SKIES OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE WHERE DO WE FALL ON THAT ISSUE? NOT TO START ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE FIRST ONE. YOU OPENED IT UP, I KNOW, BUT IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT ACROSS THE ENTIRE CODE. SO THE BIGGEST THING FROM MY END IS LEGISLATIVE COMPLIANCE. WE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE IN A LOT OF OUR REGULATIONS. AND SO IT'S IT THAT'S MY THE THINGS THAT I AM FOCUSED ON AS FAR AS THE VISION AND POLICY. THAT'S A COUNCIL QUESTION. AND SO WHEN WE COME IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S CONFLICTING THINGS AND MAYBE THE BOARDS CAN'T COME TO AGREEMENTS, OR MAYBE WHAT IS WRITTEN DOESN'T MATCH THE INTENT, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK OR PUT IT ON A DISCUSSION BOARD AND JUST SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ARE WE STILL DOING THIS? ARE WE NOT DOING IT? HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT IT? DO WE NEED TO MAKE IT BETTER? DO WE NEED TO REMOVE IT ENTIRELY? AS I SAID, THIS IS A VERY INTERACTIVE PROCESS. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS COUNCIL, YOU ARE SETTING YOUR YOU'RE THE LIGHT SHINING. YOU'RE TELLING US WHAT DIRECTION TO GO. AND WE'RE JUST HERE TO HELP EXECUTE WHATEVER THAT DIRECTION MAY BE. AND IF WE CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT, THEN WE CAN DUKE IT OUT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. WELL, AND I THINK THAT WAS MAYBE THE INTENT BEHIND MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT I ANTICIPATE A LOT OF CHANGES IN THIS PROCESS AND NOT JUST SPECIFIC TO LAND USE, BUT FOR EVERYTHING. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL THESE CONFLICTIONS AND NEW VISIONS AND IDEAS AND GROWING POPULATIONS. I MEAN, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES WHERE IT SHOULD BE NOT JUST LEGALLY COMPLIANT, BUT ALSO MATCHING THE VISION OF OUR CITIZENS. AND SO, I MEAN, I'LL ECHO WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, [01:45:05] JUST MAKE THIS AS TRANSPARENT AS YOU CAN. BUT FROM MY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE SHOULD BE MASSIVE CHANGES ALONG THE WAY, AND THEY SHOULD ALL BE POSITIVE. AND IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE, EVERY SINGLE PERSON UP HERE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT. EVERY CITIZEN WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE'LL JUST LOOK BACK A YEAR FROM NOW AND IT'LL JUST BE EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I SUPPORT THIS 100% AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR TRANSPARENCY. NO, WE APPRECIATE IT. AND THAT'S I'VE SINCE I'VE COME IN, SINCE I'VE BEEN A PLANNER. TRANSPARENCY, CONSISTENCY. THAT'S THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE CAN DO. YOU'LL EVEN IN THE BUILDING AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AS LONG AS YOU'RE TRANSPARENT AND CONSISTENT, YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY RUIN THEIR DAY. AND THEY'LL STILL SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE AT LEAST IT'S TRANSPARENT AND CONSISTENT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE STRIVE TO DO EVERY DAY. MAYOR, BEFORE WE CONTINUE ANY FURTHER, ARE WE STILL DOING THIS UNDER ROUTINE, ROUTINE STAFF REPORTS? YEAH. I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST AGENDIZED AS ROUTINE STAFF REPORTS, I THINK A MORE FULSOME DISCUSSION IS FINE, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY AGENDIZED FOR MORE SPECIFIC DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE POLICY IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT THE CODE CHANGES MIGHT BE. SO, I MEAN, I AGREE, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY WRAP THIS UP AND MOVE ON. I WAS GOING TO GO TO A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. DO YOU RELATED TO THAT? MR. WEST STARTED THIS BY ASKING ME AS MAYOR TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE. DO I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT OUTSIDE OF A MEETING? SO SO THE CREATION OF AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE WITH LESS THAN A QUORUM IS, YOU KNOW, A VOLUNTEER SUBCOMMITTEE. YOU CAN YOU CAN PROPOSE THAT AND DO THAT. BUT I WOULD ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE RATIFY IT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND AGENDIZE IT. SO IF YOU WANT TO SUGGEST IT AND SEE AND NAME INDIVIDUALS WHO YOU WOULD SUGGEST FOR IT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET STARTED IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING ANYWAY. BUT BUT THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE TO DISCUSS IT AND TO KIND OF GET THE OTHER PEOPLE BE WILLING, THAT'S FINE. BUT THEN JUST RATIFY IT, PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. I THINK THERE WAS A HOPE AND A DESIRE THAT THEY WOULD GET STARTED. IS THAT WAS YOUR INTENTION WAS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE THE ACTUAL CODE DIAGNOSTIC ON FIVE DAYS. WHO'S WHO'S I GUESS I MISSED THAT. WHO'S IT GOING TO BE? I MEAN I HAVE GREAT INTEREST IN THIS. SO I THINK WHAT I ONLY SUGGESTION I HEARD FROM MR. PRINCE WAS OBVIOUSLY SUBCOMMITTEE. HE SAID THE CHAIR, THE LIAISON FOR PNC, THE LIAISON FOR BUILDING AND STANDARDS. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON IT IF COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH THAT. AND THEN HE SAID ONE OTHER FROM PNC AND ONE OTHER FROM BUILDING AND STANDARDS. LET ME MODIFY THAT SO THAT THE TWO LIAISONS CORRECT WHAT I SAID THE TWO CHAIRS AND THEN ONE OTHER. SO TWO MEMBERS OF PNC, TWO MEMBERS OF BUILDING STANDARDS. YES. AS WELL AS THE TWO LIAISONS. THAT WAS MY SPECIFIC SUGGESTION. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN AD HOC, THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A FORUM, AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO YOU CAN SUGGEST ITS CREATION. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO TELL THEM OR ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. IT'S NOT MAKING ANY MAKING ANY DECISIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND AGENDIZE IT, FORMALIZING IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THOSE FIVE INDIVIDUALS CAN THEY CAN GET TOGETHER BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, BUT FORMALIZE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING IN A SECOND. BUT CLEARLY THAT GIVES US THE NAMES OF ALL BUT TWO. AND SO MAYBE YOU GUYS KNOW THE NAME OF THE OTHER TWO MIGHT BE ASKED. YES, I DO KNOW WHO FRANK ROBBINS HAD SUGGESTED AT THE LAST MEETING. MEETING. BUT I DO KNOW THAT JIM CASSON WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN THAT. BUT LAURA ZOTTER HAS SHOWN A SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN BEING ON THIS COMMITTEE, AND HE WAS ALL FOR HER. YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANY OF THEM ON IT, SO. MR. WHO'S THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON YOU? LINDA? AARON IS THE PNC. I'M THE LIAISON. LINDA IS THE CHAIR. HAS SHE EXPRESSED ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE NOT ASKED HER. I'M UNCOMFORTABLE LEAVING IT TO THE PEOPLE YOU'VE SUGGESTED AND THEN CONFIRMING WITH THE CHAIR OF EACH COMMITTEE WHO THEY WANT THAT PERSON TO BE. IT'S FINE WITH ME. AND THAT'S MY MY INTENTION, I THINK, IS TO GO WITH THAT IF I HAVE A GENERAL CONSENSUS. MR. BENNEFIELD, I, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION OF A SUBCOMMITTEE TODAY JUST BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, BUT OR ELSE I WOULD HAVE PERHAPS REACHED OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR RECOMMENDED SOMEONE ELSE TO DO. BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY MORE VERSED IN THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY THAN PAUL ROBERTS. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE ON IT. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BOG THE COMMITTEE DOWN BY HAVING TOO MANY MEMBERS ON IT, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT AND THIS IS NOT A SLIGHT OF HIM, THIS IS A HONEST [01:50:02] COMPLIMENT, IS NOBODY'S GOING TO BE MORE CRITICAL OF THE WORK THAN SOMEBODY LIKE PAUL ROBERTS. I MEAN, HE VOICED HIS, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS TODAY. AND IN MY OPINION, IF HE WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, THEN HE WOULD OBVIOUSLY, I JUST THINK HE WOULD BE A WELCOMED ADDITION. I'D AGREE, I THINK. SO WE COULD HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM BOTH COMMITTEES. WE'D HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM COUNCIL AND I CONSIDER HIM REPRESENTATION FROM THE PUBLIC. I GUESS I AGREE, YEAH. IN THAT CASE I'D RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THE INDIVIDUALS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME AND THEN FORMALIZE IT AT THE NEXT AGENDA. AND IF THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET IN ADVANCE, YOU'RE NOT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUORUM ISSUES. AND CERTAINLY THEY CAN MEET, YOU KNOW, IN ADVANCE OF THAT AND FORMALIZE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. PAUL'S ONLINE. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, SINCE WE'RE NOT I MEAN, WE SHOULD WRAP IT UP AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. SO THAT'S THAT STAFF REPORT WE HAVE I THINK WE HAD OUR NESTA WE WERE GOING TO DO. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. STAFF UPDATE OF THE TRIP TO BUDA. QUESTIONS. SO WE TOOK A TRIP TO BUDA WAS TUESDAY TUESDAY, TUESDAY. IT WAS GREAT. I GOT TO SEE THE UNITS THAT WERE BEING TALKED ABOUT AND I LIKE THEM. THEY SEEM TO BE. I TALKED TO THE STAFF, THE ACTUAL OPERATORS, AND YOU KNOW, A SALESMAN IS GOING TO SELL YOU A PRODUCT, BUT AN OPERATOR IS GOING TO TELL YOU THEY'RE GOOD OR BAD OR THEY'RE NOT WORK. THEY LIKE THEM. THE MAINTENANCE OF IT IS VERY MINIMAL. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT NUMBERS. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE TOUR. AND IT WAS IT WAS GREAT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, PRETTY MUCH. THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET IT AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF TO TELL YOU HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET IT FROM TYPE TWO TO TYPE ONE. WE'RE VERY, VERY INACCURATE. AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU FALSE HOPES OR NUMBERS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. IT WAS TALKED ABOUT. THEY PUT A SLAB HERE, DO A POLL HERE, DO SOMETHING TEMPORARILY. AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IF WE IF THE DECISION COMES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO USING THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT, I THINK WE SHOULD DO SHOULD BE DONE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONALLY AND LOOKED AT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER LITTLE THINGS THAT GO INTO IT THE PIPING, THE CONNECTIONS AND ALL THAT. BUT I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT. THE PERMITTING PROCESS. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES, BUT I LIKED IT. I LIKE I LIKE WHAT I SAW, I LIKE THE EFFLUENT THAT IT PRODUCES. IT LOOKS LIKE CRYSTAL CLEAN WATER. SO IT HAD NO ODOR AND IT WAS GREAT. WHAT WAS IT? THEY TESTED IT FOR FOREST TURBIDITY, SO THEIR TURBIDITY WAS 0.008. OURS WAS 3.9 TO BE FROM EFFLUENT TO TYPE ONE TO TYPE THREE, I MEAN TYPE ONE TO TYPE TWO YOU HAVE TO BE BELOW THREE. SO WE PRODUCE GOOD EFFLUENT. IT JUST HAS A LOT OF A LOT OF COMPONENTS AND A LOT OF TRASH. SO WE DO PRODUCE GOOD EFFLUENT WATER. THAT'S GOOD BEING SO CLOSE. BUT AND IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY ODORS. AND THE FILTERS, THE MAINTENANCE IT WAS MINIMAL LIKE I SAID. AND THEY DID RECOMMENDED THAT KEEP PARTS IN STOCK IF IT GOES DOWN. AND THEN THE IDEA IS TO GET TWO FOR REDUNDANCY. SO THAT WAY IF ONE GOES OUT YOU HAVE THE OTHER ONE TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN TEMPORARILY THE OPERATIONS OF THE FLEET IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PREPARE FUTURE AGENDAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO? HOW LONG DO YOU NEED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU NEED TO BRING SOMETHING TO US TO GET OUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE GOING DOWN THIS ROUTE? I MEAN, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF GETTING THE TYPE ONE. I'VE HEARD OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY IT TOO. WE HAVE NEVER OFFICIALLY VOTED ON IT. I DON'T BELIEVE OTHER THAN IT'S BEEN IN OUR WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD APPLICATIONS THE LAST TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW? SO WHAT SHOULD I BE THINKING TO DO AS FAR AS THE AGENDAS? WHEN DO YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO US? HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU NEED SOME SORT OF DECISION OR GUIDANCE FROM US? REALISTICALLY, THIS YEAR, PROBABLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR, NOT THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT ACTUALLY EVEN THE PERMITTING, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK YOU WANT TO GET TO TC AS SOON AS YOU CAN BECAUSE IT TAKES SIX MONTHS. RIGHT? BUT WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS GOING ON THAT TO DIVERT FROM WHAT I HAVE WOULD BE TO ME. TO ME, IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO FOCUS ON ANOTHER ONE. I CAN I CAN START LOOKING INTO IT, BUT FULLY DIVE INTO IT. TYPE ONE TO TYPE TWO. REALISTICALLY, PROBABLY DIVE INTO MID JULY TO START LOOKING AT MORE IN DETAIL. YES, SIR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO THROW YOU ANOTHER CURVEBALL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS OUR IRRIGATION COMMITTEE, SINCE THEY ARE SO UP TO DATE ON EFFLUENT DISPERSAL, IS TO TAKE THAT COMMITTEE AND LET THEM CONTINUE AS AN EFFLUENT DISPERSAL COMMITTEE AND LET THEM WORK ON THE PROJECT OF THE FEASIBILITY OF US GOING TO TYPE ONE EFFLUENT AND POSSIBLY ADD MR. STEWART TO THAT COMMITTEE TO HELP US ALONG WITH THAT PROCESS THAT KEEPS SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF OUR OWN STAFF. [01:55:06] AND THIS IS NOT THIS WAS A REQUEST THAT VICTOR HAD ACTUALLY COME UP WITH SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS AND ALL THIS. THERE'S MORE INTO IT THAN JUST PUT IT OUT HERE, PUT IT OUT THERE, PUT IT MORE INTO IT. WE WE WE STILL HAVE TO EXPAND THE PLAN. WHEN IS THAT GOING TO COME? WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND TWO, $3 MILLION FOR SOMETHING TEMPORARILY THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND USE THAT MONEY APPROPRIATELY. SO WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE IT SO MUCH OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE INCORPORATE IT INTO WHAT, THE EXPANSION OR DO IT TEMPORARILY INSTALLATION. BUT WE'RE LAST LONGER THAN A FEW YEARS. YEAH, I WAS ON THE TOUR AS WELL. IT WAS A GREAT IT WAS GREAT TO SEE IT IN ACTION. AND WE GOT TO SEE BOTH THE WHEN THEY'RE IN THE CONCRETE WELLS AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE ALSO THE PREPACKAGED DEAL THAT'S IN THE, THERE'S WASN'T STAINLESS STEEL, IT WAS THE WHAT WAS IT. WHAT IS THAT THE, THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAINT. YEAH I CAN'T THINK OF IT RIGHT NOW. THE RECOMMENDATION WAS STAINLESS STEEL. STAINLESS STEEL. BUT WITH THIS MORE EXPENSIVE. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WRINKLE BECAUSE I THINK ON THE TOUR THE DISCUSSIONS WERE WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND START THE TC 210 PROCESS, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO. AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG TC TAKES. I MEAN, SOME DAVE STEWART CLAIMED IT WAS SIX MONTHS, BUT I THINK OTHERS OF US BELIEVE THAT TC DOESN'T DO ANYTHING SHORTER THAN A YEAR. SO IF WE WAIT UNTIL JULY OR LATER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT GETTING THAT PERMIT, NOT GETTING THAT TC AMENDMENT UNTIL MID 2027. I AM NOT VERSED AT ALL INTO THE PERMITTING PROCESS WE DID. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH RFP. YOU KNOW, IF WE GET AN ENGINEER, WE CAN GET THEM INVOLVED AND DO THAT WITH RFP. WE CAN MINIMIZE THE COST AND HAVE AN ACTUAL SPECIAL, SPECIAL PERSON THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO THOSE THINGS. I'M THINKING OF BRAD'S COMMENTS ON THE PAST STAFF UPDATE ONE. SO I THINK I'M GOING TO TRY TO CUT MINE SHORT AND KEEP IT TO THE TOUR. I MAY BRING THIS BACK UP ON THE FIFTH JUST SO THAT COUNCIL CAN TALK ABOUT THIS MORE, BECAUSE THE FIFTH IS JUST A DISCUSSION. BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I JUST HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION. I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THIS MONEY WAS GOING TO COME FROM FOR THE FOR THESE FILTERS. ANYWAY, WE WON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IF WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THIS UNTIL AFTER THE GOLF COURSE IS COMPLETED AND THEN CEDAR BREAKS IS COMPLETED. SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT AT LEAST 40 WEEKS OUT OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, 150 DAYS AFTER IT'S APPROVED. I BELIEVE THAT VICTOR SAID THAT. SO WE STILL HAVE SIX MONTHS AT LEAST, BEFORE WE'LL KNOW IF WE HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM FROM THE GOLF COURSE AND THEN AGAIN AFTER THE CEDAR BREAKS IS COMPLETE. SO, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, IMAGINARY $1 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TOWARDS THIS. I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF EVERYBODY'S MIND THAT WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE THERE. SO I DON'T WANT TO THROW A BUNCH OF WORK ONTO YOU RIGHT NOW. AND WE HAVE NO WAY TO FUND IT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING NOT TO PUT ANY WORK ON HIM RIGHT NOW. IS IS LET THE COMMITTEE WORK ON IT A LITTLE BIT AND DO SOME OF THE LEGWORK. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT MAY IT YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN ROUGH ESTIMATES THAT WE CAN DO IT FOR LESS THAN A MILLION. I DON'T KNOW UNTIL I ACTUALLY SEE SOME NUMBERS FROM THE VENDOR. AND SEE IT'S HARD TO SAY. SO WE IT'S GOING TO BE A LENGTHY PROCESS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP IT ON THE RADAR THAT THIS IS NOT ANOTHER ONE OF THEM PROJECTS WE TALK ABOUT, AND THEN IT JUST GETS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD AND NEVER ACTED ON. WHAT DID YOU SAY? THANK YOU TO MR. BENEFIELD FOR SETTING IT UP. IT WAS NICE EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND IT WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL. AND MR. BENEFIELD IS THE ONE THAT CAME UP WITH THE DAVE STEWART IDEA ON THE COMMITTEE. MR. THANK YOU. JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO ANSWER IT TODAY, BUT AS YOU GO TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE EVER WANTED TYPE TWO TO ENTER PON2 AND WHETHER OR NOT WE EVER WANTED TYPE TWO TO ENTER THE NEW IRRIGATION EFFLUENT SYSTEM. AND SO DEPENDING ON YOUR ANSWER, THERE MIGHT DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF A PRIORITY YOU PUT THE CONVERSION TO TYPE ONE. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAYBE SEEK SOME ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE ANSWERS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT CONTRARY TO THE REPORT THAT YOU GAVE. THANKS. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE BACK ON THE FIFTH FOR DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL. OKAY. ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS GOING TO UPDATE YOU ON THE POLICE CHIEF SEARCH? WE'VE GOT THE CANDIDATE FIELD NARROWED DOWN TO FIVE, POSSIBLY SIX. THOSE TOP APPLICANTS. ARE WE GETTING Y'ALL COPIES OF THEIR RESUMES FOR Y'ALL TO REVIEW ETERNALLY? BUT THE TOP CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN ISSUED A TASKED TO HAVE PREPARED FOR [02:00:06] WHEN THEY DO GO BEFORE THE INTERVIEW BOARD. AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF THE REFERENCES RIGHT NOW. AND WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD APPLICANTS. SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. OTHER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE WE GOT GOING ON. OKAY. THEN I WILL GO TO CAN I ASK A JUST TO CLARIFY, I'M JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ENDED UP. ARE THERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON YOUR INTERVIEW BOARD, MR. WEST OR WHERE ARE WE AT ON THAT? WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THE INTERVIEW BOARD YET, BUT THEY'LL PROBABLY BE AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, POSSIBLY TWO. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL GO ON TO ITEM B, ROUTINE REPORTS FROM CITY COUNCIL BOARD. COMMISSION COMMITTEE LIAISONS. I'LL GO TO MR. HALL. THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE IS STILL WORKING ON ARTICLE THREE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT, AND STILL HOPES TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THE PROCESS BY THE END OF FEBRUARY. BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. SO SO WE SHALL SEE. AND I YOU KNOW, IT IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF WE COULD GET THIS ON ON. VOTED ON BY THE CITIZENS ON IN MAY. BUT THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN. SO I GUESS ORIGINALLY LOOKING FOR NOVEMBER AND AND I DISCUSSING IT WITH PAUL ROBERTSON I THINK HE HE HE AGREES AND THAT PAUL PREACHED THAT IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. BENFIELD. THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR CITY COUNCIL IS YOU AND I SERVE ON THE LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS AND KIND OF REWRITING THAT ORDINANCE. AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE. I THINK MAYBE 1 OR 2 MORE MEETINGS THERE WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE A NEW ORDINANCE. AND I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEVER REALLY HAD IS, ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO WRITE THAT ORDINANCE IN HOUSE, OR ARE WE GOING TO SEND THAT OFF? THE KIND OF THE PARAMETERS OFF TO MR. BULLOCK TO HAVE HIS FIRM WRITE IT? AND I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR MAYBE A CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO TRY TO GIVE IT OUR OWN STAB AT IT, OR WOULD WE LIKE TO SET THE PARAMETERS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND, AND THEN ALLOW MR. BULLOCK TO, TO WRITE IT FOR US. BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THAT PROCESS MOVING ALONG QUICKLY SO THAT MAYBE WE CAN VOTE ON IT BY THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. SO, I MEAN, I'VE PUT IT ON THE FIFTH. I CAN PUT IT ON FOR THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION. YEAH, FOR FULL DISCUSSION. THAT'D BE GREAT. AND THEN MAYBE A POTENTIAL VOTE ON THE FOLLOWING MEETING. OKAY. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD TRY TO WRITE IT OURSELVES, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, OR IF WE JUST GIVE THOSE PARAMETERS TO MR. BULLOCK AND THEN HE PRODUCES THE ORDINANCE, WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS. I MEAN, WE'LL DO EITHER ONE. I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY IT'S EASY TO DO EITHER WAY, WHATEVER YOU PREFER. AND I THINK I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS KIND OF AGREED THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MINIMALIST STYLE ORDINANCE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS. IN FACT, IN MANY CASES, WE'RE WANTING TO JUST SIMPLY REFER THINGS BACK TO OTHER PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE, LIKE PARKING OR NOISE OR, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A COMPLICATED ORDINANCE, BUT NONETHELESS, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO KIND OF CODIFY IT. I PARTLY THINK THAT BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED THIS SO MANY TIMES, THAT I KIND OF FELT LIKE WE WERE IN A PLACE WHERE WHAT'S OUT THERE IS THE PARAMETERS, AND MAYBE THE SUBCOMMITTEE COULD ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE SOMETHING BASED OFF OF THAT. YEAH, I SUPPORT HAVING THE ATTORNEY WRITE IT AS WELL. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS CONSENSUS AMONGST EVERYBODY ELSE. WELL, I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I WOULD SAY EVEN IF WE WROTE IT AND REVIEWED IT, WE'D PROBABLY WANT LEGAL REVIEW ANYWAY. SO MAYBE THAT HELPS SHORT, YOU KNOW, SHORTEN THAT PROCESS. SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY NOW IN TIMELINE, FORGIVE ME, IT'S A LITTLE BIT NOT KNOWING, YOU KNOW, HOW A UNIFIED CODE THING EXISTS. SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, WOULD THAT WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THEN REDONE WITHIN THE CODE REWRITE? IT WOULD. OKAY. SO AND THEN I'M GOING TO SAY COUNCIL, YOU HAD DONE QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH IN TERMS OF MAKING A PRETTY. LIGHT ORDINANCE AS IT GOES FOR STR. SO GIVEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, I MY PREFERENCE BEFORE WE SPEND MONEY WITH BRAD. LOVE YOU BRAD. YOU KNOW I DO IS THAT WE KIND OF RELOOK AT WHAT YOU HAD ALREADY YOU KNOW WAS ALREADY AT THE TABLE ON MINIMAL AND THEN WAIT FOR THE UNIFIED CODE [02:05:03] PROCESS TO HAPPEN AND THEN DO A LITTLE TOUCH UP. I MEAN, THAT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. HOWEVER Y'ALL CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD, I THINK THAT THE THE SUBCOMMITTEE MAYBE WOULD NEED TO MEET AGAIN. SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE MET SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY AGREE. WHERE DID WE LEAVE OFF? YEAH, BUT I GUESS FROM MY ASK FOR BRAD IS, I THINK KNOWING THAT WE'RE DOING A UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE, I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD DRAFT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD PROBABLY FALL INTO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? I MEAN, I THINK GIVEN THE MINIMALIST APPROACH THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND I KNOW YOU ALL WANT, I DON'T I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE KIND OF THING THAT WOULDN'T, ESPECIALLY IF IT REFERENCES BACK TO EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, PARKING NOISE OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT ALREADY THERE. I DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT THAT TYPE OF AN ORDINANCE OR THAT TYPE OF AN APPROACH CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC REVIEW. AND IT MAY BE THAT YOU GIVE THE DRAFT OR WHATEVER, AND THEN IT KICKS TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S DOING THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC REVIEW AND SAY, MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS WHAT FITS INTO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I THINK PROBABLY THE MAIN THING THAT WOULD CHANGE MIGHT BE THE CHAPTER AND WHERE IT'S PLACED. IT'S UNLIKELY TO UNDERGO SIGNIFICANT REVISION GIVEN THE MINIMALIST APPROACH. OKAY. OKAY. SO SUBCOMMITTEE GET TOGETHER. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO HAVE A MEETING AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT MORE ROBUST IN FEBRUARY. AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TIME TO VOTE ON IT IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS TOO MUCH, BUT IS THERE A CONSENSUS, THOUGH, THAT THE ORDINANCE WILL BE WRITTEN BY BRAD IN THE END, OR. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY, I HAVE THREE. I'LL START OFF WITH MR. BEAUTIFUL. IT'S KIND OF THE UNOFFICIAL ONE THAT I HAVE. WHAT TO TO DISCUSS THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT DONATION FROM THE 4TH OF JULY DECORATING COMMITTEE. WE HAD COUNCIL HAD ASKED KLB TO EXPLORE FUNDING OPTIONS TO TO LOOK AT HOW THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES WITHOUT GETTING ANY GRANT FUNDS THIS YEAR. AND THEY'RE DOING A SPECTACULAR JOB. THE COMMUNITY HAS REALLY STEPPED UP. THEY ALSO RECEIVED $247 FROM THE CHRISTMAS AND LIGHT DECOR SALE, AND THERE WAS A LAWNMOWER THAT WAS DONATED, AND WE WERE ABLE TO SELL THAT FOR $900. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ESTIMATES FOR THE NEW ADA SWING TO REPLACE THE ONE AT BOTTOM POINT, AND POSSIBLY AN ADDITIONAL ONE AT THE MEMORIAL PARK, WHICH IS BASICALLY THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT A SWING SET ON DON. THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH PRAC ON ON GETTING THE EXACT GUIDELINES ON WHAT'S REQUIRED. AND THEN WE'LL REACHING OUT TO A COUPLE OF CITIZENS THAT HAVE ALREADY GENEROUSLY STEPPED UP AND SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO COVER THE COSTS OF THOSE REPLACEMENTS. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WAYFINDING SIGNS. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO NORMA ABOUT THIS IN THE FUTURE. THE OTHER THING THAT'S COMING UP WITH THEM IS THERE'S A BIG CLEANUP AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT NOT WORRIED, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE FOCUSING ON THE LA PRIMAVERA BIKE RACE. IT'S THE 34TH ANNUAL. IT'S COMING UP FEBRUARY 27TH THROUGH MARCH 1ST. THEY NORMALLY DO A CLEANUP BEFORE AND AFTER BECAUSE OF THE TRAILS. AND THIS YEAR IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN LAST BECAUSE WE AFTER THE 4TH OF JULY FLOODS, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT STEPPED UP AND HELPED CLEAN ALREADY. AND SO THERE'S ALSO BEEN A LOT MORE PEOPLE OUT ON THE TRAILS AND ON THE ROADS HELPING CLEAN. SO THAT'S IT FOR THEIR NEXT. THEY'LL BE NEXT MEETING NEXT MONTH. AND THEN THE OFFICERS WHO REMAIN THE SAME FOR 2026, THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, THEY MET ON MONDAY. I WAS UNFORTUNATELY SICK. I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN ME THEIR MINUTES. MARY FERRIS SENT THAT TO ME. THEY HAVE REELECTED MIKE AS THE CHAIR, MELISSA OJEDA AS THE VICE CHAIR AND MARY FERRIS AS SECRETARY FOR THE YEAR STAFF. JAN APPLIED FOR THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE'S DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE AWARD, AND WE'RE STILL FINDING OUT IF SHE IS GOING TO GET THAT. THE LED LIGHTING UPGRADE IS BEGINNING SOON. THEY'RE ALSO UPGRADING TO THE LIBRARY PLASTIC CARDS INSTEAD OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, AND THEY'RE MOVING TOWARDS COMPUTER REGISTRATION STAFF COMPUTERS HAVE ALL ALREADY BEEN UPDATED. THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE PATRON COMPUTER UPGRADES. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE HAVE LICENSES IN-HOUSE ALREADY, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY IS GOING [02:10:01] TO HAVE TO FUND. THEY'RE THEY'RE BASICALLY AT END OF LIFE, BUT THEY ARE UPGRADABLE AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THE LICENSES, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO IT TO SEE IF WE HAVE PACKAGES ON THAT. LET'S SEE. I BELIEVE THAT IS GOING TO BE IT FOR THEM. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF BOOK TALKS, BUT THAT IS ALL ON THE WEB, THE CITY WEBSITE, ON THEIR CALENDAR, AND THEY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE CALENDAR BECAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT. IT'S CONSISTENT, BUT IT'S ALSO ALL UPDATING. SO JAN'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT STAYING ON TOP OF THAT. NOW FOR THE BUILDINGS AND STANDARDS COMMISSION, JORDAN WAS THERE AS STAFF LIAISON. WE DISCUSSED THE COMPLIANCE OR I'M SORRY, THE FREEZE AND NICHOLS REPORT. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THAT THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING IN WORK, AND THEY'RE AFRAID THAT IT'S GOING TO GET SKIPPED OVER. NOW THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS UNIFIED CODE, THEY'RE WORRIED THAT THEY'VE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT, AND THEY DON'T WANT IT TO ALL BE FOR NAUGHT. AND I EXPLAINED TO THEM, ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE. THEIR INPUT IS MORE VALUABLE NOW THAN EVER, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE A UNIFIED CODE AND IT'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH OVERLAP. SO FRANK HAD EXPRESSED THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO A AN INTERNAL SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE CODE REWRITE. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE NECESSARY, BUT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT IF THEY NEED TO, BUT THEY WANT TO APPOINT TO AND IT COULD BE THE SAME TWO THAT WE PICK TO GO OVER THESE. THEY'RE WORKING ON CHAPTER NINE RIGHT NOW. THEY JUST FINISHED WITH CHAPTER THREE. THEY'RE WORKING ON DEFINITIONS. BUT JORDAN HAD SENT OVER A COUPLE OF LINKS FOR THEM TO REVIEW, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT THEY WERE COMING UP WITH DON'T ACTUALLY BE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THAT. THEY DID NOT NOMINATE A SECRETARY FOR THIS YEAR. THEY BELIEVE THAT STAFF IS GOING TO BE DOING AND TAKING CARE OF MINUTES. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND VICE CHAIR IS JIM CASON THIS YEAR. SO IT'S FRANK ROBBINS AS CHAIRPERSON AND JIM CASON. AND THEN THEY HAD A THEY WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT THEY THEY. WERE WELCOMING ME BUT THEY THEY MISSED MR. PRINCE. BUT THEY REALLY, REALLY MISSED MR. BENEFIELD. AND THEY AND FRANK SAID THAT HE'S HE'S GOING TO TEACH, TEACH ME PROCEDURE WHETHER I, WHETHER I WANT TO OR NOT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND THEY'RE ALL VERY, VERY INVESTED IN THIS AND VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THEY DO. SO I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THEM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'VE PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT INTO EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON. AND JORDAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY SMALL TASK WITH THEM. I KNOW I APPRECIATE IT TOO. THAT IS IT FOR ALL OF THEM. THREE. MAYOR PRO TEM ALL. THANK YOU. SO THE FIRST IS ON. THEY WENT AHEAD AND MET OFFICIALLY AS SINCE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CULMINATION OF BRINGING THE EDC TO LIFE, THERE'S A FEW MORE REQUIREMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE FOR WHICH ERIC AND ROBIN AND I MET AND GOT ALSO SOME INSIGHT BACK FROM I GUESS IT WAS KRISTINA D'AMOURS IN LEGAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON THAT. THEY DID RECEIVE A WONDERFUL NEWS UPDATE ON SALES TAX. I BELIEVE WE ENDED UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR, FISCAL YEAR WITH LIKE 1.2 MILLION IN SALES TAX, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR. I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THAT. THEY DID. WE WERE INTERESTED IN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WAYFINDING AND THAT IS CULMINATING WITH THE RFQ THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS PUT OUT AND DOING A HOLISTIC LOOK AT THIS. SO LIKE THROUGH KOLB, THROUGH ACTUALLY THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, YOU KNOW, KEY PLACES AS WELL AS TOURISM RELATED PLACES. SO IT'S TURNING OUT THAT THAT'S ENDED UP BEING AN AD HOC, ALL BY ITSELF KIND OF SUBCOMMITTEE ON ITS OWN. THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY MEETING, BUT IT IS HAPPENING. ALSO, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THEY DID REITERATE UNDER QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ADDRESS E-BIKES AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT AN ACTIVITY THAT OUR KIDS CAN HAVE FUN WITH, BUT YET NOT BE DANGEROUS ON THE ROADS? AND SO THAT DISCUSSION I JUST WANTED TO LET COUNCIL KNOW AS BELIEVE US ON FEBRUARY 5TH. [02:15:02] WE HAVE THAT ON THERE. MAYOR. WHAT TIME IS THAT? THAT WAS LIKE E-BIKES AND YES. YEAH. IT'S A VERY LONG DISCUSSION AGENDA. YES. HUM. AND THEN FINALLY THERE WAS A REPORT GIVEN BY THE OUR GRANT WRITER. SHE ACTUALLY CREATED A REPORT FOR CITY COUNCIL AND IT IS ATTACHED ON THE FORUM FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. AND I ALSO ATTENDED THE LAGO VISTA ISD BOARD, AND THAT IS WHERE THEY ALSO RECOGNIZE THE BAND, CROSS COUNTRY, DECA AND VOLLEYBALL PLAYERS THAT ALL HAVE JUST DONE WONDERFULLY. AND IN PARTICULAR, THE ONE OF NOTE THAT ACTUALLY CROSSES OVER WITH THE CITY IS A POTENTIAL UTILITY EASEMENT ALONG THE PLAN, BUT NOT YET BUILT EXTENSION OF BONANZA ROAD. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION. AGAIN, THAT INFORMATION IS IN THE FORUM. SO. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET THIS WEEK. THEY'RE STILL FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THESE EXCESS FUNDS THAT THEY HAVE FROM PREVIOUS FUNDRAISER. AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE WITH ME. WHEN IS A GOOD TIME IN MARCH TO GO TO THE CAPITOL. AND THEY'RE GOING TO INVITE THE LEO'S FROM THE LIONS CLUB, DECA, AND THEN ANYBODY ELSE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT WANTS TO GO HOPE IS TO HAVE A BIG DELEGATION AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A LAGO VISTA HIGH SCHOOL DAY AT THE CAPITOL. AND THEN I'LL COORDINATE WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVE AND SENATOR AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD IS GOING TO MEET TWICE IN THE NEXT WEEK. SATURDAY. THEY'RE MEETING FOR JUST A WORKSHOP. DON'T REQUIRE A LIAISON FOR THAT. THEY'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE ON HOPEFULLY REALLY CLOSE ON A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. AGAIN, THEY HAVE SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS. IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS. THEY'RE TRYING TO HASH IT OUT ON SATURDAY. AND THEN ON TUESDAY THEY HAVE THEIR OFFICIAL MEETING, WHICH I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE I'M TRAVELING FOR WORK. SO I'M ASKING IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON COUNCIL WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO LIAISON FOR THE ARB ON TUESDAY, ALTHOUGH I THINK MAYBE DID I JUST DID YOU SAY YOU COULD DO THAT? YES, I WILL ACTUALLY LIAISON FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU. BUT THAT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME IN THE WORKS. AND I'M REALLY HOPEFUL FOR WHAT HAPPENS THIS WEEKEND AND ON TUESDAY, FROM THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SIDE OF THINGS, QUITE A BIT OF INTERACTION WITH SOME OTHER. SO WE HAD A TRAINING HERE IN LARGO. WE'RE SUPER, SUPER GRATEFUL FOR FOR COMING OUT HERE AND DOING THAT. IT WAS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS ONLY DISCUSSING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. LEARNED A LOT. ONE THING THAT I HAD CAME OUT OF THAT WITH THAT I HAVE MAYBE I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW IS TASKING CHARLES WITH IS THEY SAID THEY'VE BEEN HANDING OUT A LOT OF MONEY FOR GENERATORS THROUGH THEIR HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM. I WANT US TO LOOK INTO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE WE CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR. WE ALSO, I ALSO MET WITH SENATOR CORNYN'S OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WAS LOOKING SMOOTH FOR OUR FUNDING. THAT'S IN THE CONGRESSIONAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL. THEY TOLD ME NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. THEY THEY'RE WATCHING IT. THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HURT THAT. AND THEN THREE HOURS AGO, IT ACTUALLY PASSED THE SENATE. SO IT'S GOING TO THE PRESIDENT'S DESK RIGHT NOW. AND IT HAS $750,000 IN IT FOR LAGO VISTA. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S EXCITING. AND WE WILL KEEP UP ON HOW THAT PROGRESSES. I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WHO I BELIEVE IT FLOWS THROUGH, ALTHOUGH I HEARD TODAY MAYBE IT'LL GO THROUGH THE EPA. SO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHICH WAY OUR MONEY IS GOING. BUT I WILL GIVE YOU GUYS UPDATES ON THAT. ON THE 27TH. I AM BOATING OVER TO THE YOUTH CAMP OVER AT THE TIP OF PACE BEND PARK TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE LIGHTING THAT THEY HAVE OVER THERE. THEY HAVE. I THINK I MENTIONED THE LAST MEETING AGREED TO. THEY'VE BEEN TRYING, AND I THINK THEY HAVE MOSTLY BEEN TURNING THAT LIGHT OFF THAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT FOR YEARS. AND THEY WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT DARK SKIES COMMUNITIES AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THEM AND WHAT THEY COULD DO TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY, JUST REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH. THEY HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR HIM. CHARLES AND I HAD A MEETING WITH SHERIFF SALLY HERNANDEZ JUST TO TRY TO BUILD RELATIONS. SHE WAS GREAT. I NEVER MET HER BEFORE, JUST SUPER KNOWLEDGEABLE. SHE'S BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOREVER, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT TRAVIS'S, I ASKED IF SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH OUR PD ON DOING SOME SORT OF DRUG PREVENTION PROGRAM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND SHE SAID SHE'S VERY OPEN TO THAT. SO SHE LOVED TO GET YOU ALL IN TOUCH AND SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO MAYBE MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU SPOKE WITH HER LAST NIGHT THAT THAT'S ALL. OKAY. PERFECT. WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO WORK ON. AND I REALLY THINK THE SHERIFF FOR MEETING WITH US. AND THEN ON THE WATER SIDE, REGION K MEETS TOMORROW. AND, CHARLES, WHAT YOU SAID YOU OR SOMEONE FROM STAFF IS GOING TO TRY TO ATTEND THAT? YES. WE ARE ONE OF THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS THERE IS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT ARE ALL OF OUR WASTEWATER AND [02:20:03] OUR DRINKING WATER PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THEIR PLAN? REMEMBER, THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD SAID THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THOSE TO BE CAPTURED, SO WE NEED TO CHECK WITH THEM IF IF WE HAVE OURS IN THERE AND IF WE DON'T, WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO AMEND IT? I DID SEE THAT LAKEWAY MUD JUST HAD THE MEETING AMENDED TOMORROW SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS PUT IN, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CENTRAL TEXAS WATER COALITION REACHED OUT TO US BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO BE THERE AS WELL. SHE'S PUT OUT AN EMAIL, A NEWSLETTER FOR THE AL-QURA WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. SHE HAS SOME SUGGESTED PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR US TO HAVE. IF ANYBODY UP HERE HASN'T RECEIVED IT, IS INTERESTED IN IT, ASK ME AND I WILL FORWARD IT TO YOU. I WILL LIKELY SUBMIT SOMETHING FOR THAT. BUT SHE ALSO GAVE A PRE WARNING TO US AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT JUST BE PREPARED THAT THE RICE FARMERS ALLOTMENT OF WATER IS COMING UP IN MARCH AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO RECEIVE IT. SO WE WILL SEE THE LAKE LEVELS DROP A BIT AT SOME POINT IN THE SPRING. AND THOSE ARE ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES PEOPLE TALK ABOUT. SO. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING PARKS AND REC ADVISORY COMMITTEE LAST NIGHT. OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR, DAVID, HAD ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER POSSIBLY ADDING THE COLLECTION OF FEES FOR EXCLUSIVE USAGE OR RESERVED USAGE OF SOME OF THE BALL FIELDS. AND SO THEY GOT THE INTEREST OF A NUMBER OF THE FAMILIES WHO ARE INVOLVED IN OUR YOUTH ATHLETICS. AND SO WE HAD A GREAT CROWD HERE. WE WERE ABLE TO HEAR A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE FAMILIES AND FROM SOME OF THE KIDS INVOLVED IN YOUTH SPORTS HERE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER. SO IT WAS VERY GOOD TO HEAR ABOUT THAT. SO STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION, ONE OF THE OUTPUTS OF IT WAS JUST GOING BACK TO A COUPLE OF THE PRESIDENTS OF THE YOUTH SPORTS, JUST TO COME BACK WITH THEIR THOUGHT AROUND REASONABLE PROPOSALS AND SOME IDEAS AROUND KIND OF THE SWEAT EQUITY THAT A LOT OF THE PARENTS PUT INTO MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELDS AND PREPARING AND CLEANING UP THE FIELDS AFTER EVENTS AND SO FORTH. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. I DID SHARE WITH THEM, THOUGH, THAT IF I COULD GO BACK IN TIME, TRANSPORT MYSELF BACK TO SOME OF THE EARLY REC MEETINGS WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO GET SUNSET PARK FUNDED AND OFF THE GROUND, THEY WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED TO SEE THE USAGE THAT THERE'S SUCH A VIBRANT YOUTH SPORTS ECOSYSTEM NOW IN OUR CITY, WHERE WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THAT BEFORE. WE'D ALWAYS HAVE TO CART THE KIDS DOWN TO CEDAR PARK TO PLAY TEAMS, SO IT'S JUST WONDERFUL TO SEE THE USAGE OF THE FIELDS ACROSS SUNSET PARK AND THE SPORTS COMPLEX, AND THEN OTHER USAGE ALSO OF THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT ARE THERE AT THE PARK. SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S A NET POSITIVE. THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE, THEY CONFIRMED THEIR OFFICERS. THEY ALSO APPOINTED MEMBERS OF A SUBCOMMITTEE TO BEGIN WORK ON THE REVISIONS AND UPDATES TO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN. SO THEY'RE FULL SPEED AHEAD ON THAT. WORKING WITH DIRECTOR DAVID TO. AND THEY'VE ALREADY SCHEDULED SOME OF THEIR INITIAL MEETINGS, AND DAVID'S ALREADY DISTRIBUTED SOME EXAMPLE PARK MASTER PLANS HE THINKS ARE REALLY WELL DONE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO USE AS REFERENCE. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE WORK PRODUCT THAT BEGINS TO COME OUT OF THERE. SO THEY'RE FULL SPEED AHEAD ON THAT, AND THEN THERE'S LOTS MORE GOING ON. I KNOW DAVID'S WORKING AS COUNCILOR CHAVARRIA MENTIONED ON BOWDOIN PARK AND PRICING OUT ADA COMPLIANT SWINGSET AND SURFACING, AND THEN THEY'VE GONE SO FAR AS TO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR FENCING AROUND BOWDOIN PARK TO MAKE IT A SAFER RESOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO LOTS GOING ON THERE. LOTS OF. I THINK DAVE IS WORKING VERY TACTICALLY WITHIN HIS BUDGET TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE DONE TO SOME OF THE PARKS. I THINK NEW LIGHTING AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX IS ONE EXAMPLE THAT JUST GOT DONE. SO LOTS GOING ON. I THINK THE COMMITTEE SOUNDS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK AHEAD, SO THEY'LL HAVE A BUSY YEAR BUT HOPEFULLY PRODUCTIVE YEAR. SO THAT'S IT. I WOULD SAY I WATCHED IT LAST NIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB AT THAT. DAVID DID A GREAT JOB. I THOUGHT THE COMMISSION DID A GREAT JOB AND I THOUGHT THAT THE CITIZENS DID. THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION. I LEARNED A LOT. I DON'T STILL KNOW ALL THE HISTORY OF SUNSET PARK, SO I WAS LEARNING THINGS. BUT ONE QUESTION I STILL HAD LINGERING, IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON OR DAVID, THE SOFTBALL LEAGUE, ARE THEY REQUIRING DO THEY NEED A CONTRACT BEFORE THEY CAN GO FORWARD? BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE LEAGUES COMING UP IN FEBRUARY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE I HEARD TODAY THAT IT WASN'T CLEAR. ARE THEY WAITING ON THE CITY TO DO A CONTRACT FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD WITH THEIR LEAGUE? DO THEY NEED COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT, OR CAN THE CITY MANAGER AMEND THE CURRENT CONTRACT? SO THE THE LEAGUE HAS AN AGREEMENT FOR UPPER FIELD WHERE SUNSET PARK IS CONCERNED. ANY GROUP LOOKING TO RESERVE THE USE OF THE FIELD, THEY SIMPLY FILE A REQUEST FOR USE. ACTUALLY, A REVISION TO THAT AGREEMENT WENT TO PRAC LAST NIGHT WITH JUST TWO ADJUSTMENTS TO IT. SO NO THE ONLY SO SO THEY WILL SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR [02:25:05] USE. THE ONLY DELAY MAY BE OUR TEAM OF THREE HAS BEEN OUT THERE ACTUALLY FOR THREE WEEKS NOW DOING FIELD IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEY'RE WORKING THEIR TAILS OFF TO GET THAT COMPLETED. AND WE ANTICIPATE WE'LL BE FINISHED IN TIME FOR THEM TO START PRACTICING IN EARLY FEBRUARY. BUT I'VE ALREADY TOLD THE LEAGUE, IF THERE'S A DELAY, WE'LL LET THEM KNOW THAT. BUT NO, THERE WON'T BE ANY ISSUE TO THEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT'S JUST A USE AGREEMENT. OKAY. SO DO THEY STILL JUST NEED TO SUBMIT THEIR REQUEST FOR USE FOR THE WHOLE SEASON. AND THEN THEN THEY LIKELY GOOD TO GO. YEAH. JUST AS THEY DID LAST FALL. EXACTLY THE SAME. SO CAN I ASK DAVE WHILE YOU'RE HERE I MEAN YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MEETING LAST NIGHT AND THEN ALSO THOUGHTS ON THE MASTER PLAN WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE EMBARKING ON? SURE. THE SO THE MEETING LAST NIGHT, IT'S IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HEAR BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND MORE IMPORTANT TO SET BEFORE BOTH PRAC AND AT SOME POINT THE DISCUSSION THAT WILL COME HERE FOR THIS COUNCIL IS SIMPLY WHAT THE POLICY WILL BE IN TERMS OF HOW WE FUND THINGS MOVING FORWARD, WHETHER WE FULLY FUND THEM, WHETHER WE SUBSIDIZE THEM, AND TO WHAT DEGREE WE DO THAT SPECIFICALLY IN THE AREA OF EXCLUSIVE USES, RESERVED USES, WHICH THEN ARE TO THE EXCLUSION OF THE GENERAL POPULATION, OR INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE THIRD PARTIES WHO ARE OFFERING PLAY PAY TO PLAY OPPORTUNITIES, AND HOW MUCH THE BROADER COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE TO ASSIST IN THE FUNDING OF THOSE THINGS WHEN THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF SPECIALIZED IN INDIVIDUALIZED ACTIVITIES. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING CONVERSATION OBVIOUSLY, FOR PRAC, BUT THAT ULTIMATELY WILL BE A POLICY DECISION FOR THIS COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING RESPONSE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IS FROM THE COMMITTEE PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING TO COUNCIL. YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP AND EXPANDING THE FUNDING FOR PARKS AND REC, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. BUT YOU KNOW, AS STEWARDS OF THE BUDGET, YOU GUYS OPERATE OFF OF A BALANCED BUDGET FROM YEAR TO YEAR, WHICH MEANS THERE REALLY AREN'T ADDITIONAL FUNDING. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING SUPPORT IN ONE AREA, THAT MEANS YOU WITHDRAW THAT SUPPORT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST POLICY DECISIONS. BUT HELPING US, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, TO SORT OF THINK THROUGH WHAT THAT ALL MEANS, HELPING THE COMMUNITY TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A TAXPAYER AND WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FOR YOUR TAX DOLLARS, AND RECOGNIZING THAT IT TAKES A LOT MORE THAN THE LITTLE THAT WE AS RESIDENTS GIVE TO TO FUND ALL OF THE GOINGS ON FOR A CITY. AND SO ACTUALLY, COUNCILOR OWEN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY WITH INFOGRAPHICS, ETC. HELPING THEM TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE AVERAGE COST OF A HOME, WHICH MEANS THIS IS THE AVERAGE AMOUNT THAT FOLKS ARE GIVING IN PROPERTY TAXES, AND KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THAT FUNDING GOES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE LIMITS TO THAT FUNDING, LIKE FAMILIES, LIKE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, CITIES TO ARE FACED WITH BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS AND LIMITS. AND THAT'S THAT'S A REALITY FOR EVERYBODY. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THE MEETING LAST NIGHT. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHAT I'VE TRIED TO EMPHASIZE FOR THEM IS WE'VE GOT A TON OF WORK AHEAD OF US. AND IT'S IT'S A SERIOUS EFFORT. AND SO IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME REAL EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE RAISED THEIR HANDS. SO I THINK THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THEY'RE IN FOR. SO I SENT THEM AN EMAIL THIS MORNING SAYING, HERE WE GO. THE WORK GETS STARTED. AND THAT INCLUDED THE RAW SURVEY DATA, DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED BY HALF TO US. IT INCLUDED THE CURRENT DRAFT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THEN I ALSO SENT THEM SEVEN DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF WHAT ARE PRETTY GOOD EXISTING. PMPS MOST OF THEM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ONE OF THEM HAVING BEEN DEVELOPED BY HALF. THAT WAS FAR BETTER THAN WHAT THEY PROVIDED TO US. BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST THEM THINKING IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE VISION IS, REMEMBERING THAT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY ARE DOING ON BEHALF OF EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, AND ULTIMATELY THE FINISHED PRODUCT HAS TO REFLECT THE NEEDS, THE INTERESTS OF THAT BROADER COMMUNITY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHECK OUR INTERESTS TO A DEGREE AT THE DOOR. SO THEY'VE GOT A LOT BEFORE THEM, [02:30:03] BUT I THINK THEY'VE GOT SOME GOOD TOOLS AND WE ARE UNDERWAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM, MR. PRINCE. YEAH A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO ADDING TO WHAT MR. HALL SAID ON THE CRC, IF YOU HAVEN'T, IF YOU ALL ON COUNCIL HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO OR CITIZENS, THE CRC HAS BEEN A VERY ACTIVE USER OF THE DISCUSSION BOARD. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO OUT AND LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE THINGS AS THEY FINALIZE THEIR WRITE UP. AND I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TASK WEARINESS THAT'S SETTING IN WITH THEM. THEY'RE READY TO BE DONE WITH IT AND HAND IT BACK TO US. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN COMPLETE THAT IN FEBRUARY, I KNOW SOME OF THEM WOULD LOVE TO DO IT TO GET IT BACK TO US. THE MEATY TOPICS THAT ARE CONTINUING TO BE DISCUSSED AND THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH ARE TWO VERSUS THREE YEAR TERMS AND TERM LIMITS. AND ONE THAT'S COME UP PRETTY RECENTLY IS WHETHER WE SHOULD INSTANTIATE THE CREATION OF AN ETHICS COMMITTEE OR BOARD WITHIN OUR OUR CHARTER. AND SO ANYWAY, I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO OUT AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON THAT, BECAUSE WHEN IT DOES COME, WHEN THEY DO BRING THEIR RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME HARD SLOGGING HERE IN COUNCIL TO WORK THROUGH IT. AND SO I THINK THE THE MORE HOMEWORK WE ALL DO, BETTER OFF WILL BE FOR THAT. PLANNING AND ZONING. I HAD TWO THINGS ON MY LIST. ONE WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED THERE ON FREESE AND NICHOLS REPORT OF THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC. I THINK WE ALREADY BEAT THAT ONE SUFFICIENTLY, SO I WON'T SAY ANYTHING MORE ON THAT. THE SECOND ONE WAS THERE WAS A REZONING REQUEST FOR A LOCATION ON BOGGY FORD TO GO FROM TR TEMPORARY RESTRICTED TO A PD AND AND THAT I JUST WANT TO SAY SEVERAL THINGS ABOUT THAT. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WAS TASKED WITH DOING WAS DECIDING WHETHER IT SHOULD BE REZONED AS PD. THEY WERE NOT APPROVING THE CONCEPT. THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME CONCEPT MATERIAL IN THE PACKET, BUT IT WAS PRELIMINARY CONCEPT AND THEY WERE EXPLICITLY NOT APPROVING OR DENYING THAT CONCEPT. ALL THEY DID WAS THEY SAID YES. THIS PROPERTY COUNCIL VOTED IN THE PAST TO ANNEX THIS PROPERTY. AND IF WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND SO IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR COUNCIL TO GO HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF THE PD AND GET A REAL CONCEPT PLAN. AS COUNCIL LOOKS AT IT, THEY NOTED SEVERAL THINGS. THEY NOTED THE CONCEPT THEY SAW SEEMED TO HAVE SOME HEIGHT ISSUES THAT A NUMBER OF THEM HAD ISSUES WITH, LOCATION OF THINGS ON THE PROPERTY, IMPACT ON TRAFFIC. THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS WITH. BUT AGAIN, IT COMES BACK TO THOSE ARE ALL CONCEPT PLAN THINGS WHICH WERE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO VOTE ON. SO ALL THEY DID WAS SAID, MAKE SENSE TO GO FROM TEMPORARY RESTRICTED TO PD, AND NOW THE BALL IS IN COUNCIL'S COURT TO HAVE ALL THOSE HARD DISCUSSIONS AND DETAILS. THEY DID NOTE THAT THEY THEY GOT SOME COMFORT OUT OF THE FACT THAT REZONING REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE ON COUNCIL. AND THEY THEY LOOK TO US TO TO DO THE DILIGENCE. I WILL SAY, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AROUND THAT THAT FOLLOWED THAT OR THAT WERE RATHER AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKING SOME OF OUR PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS AND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, AND I FIND IT UNFORTUNATE WHEN CITIZENS THAT ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DID INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS SAY BAD THINGS. AND SO THERE WAS SOME SLANDER THAT HAPPENED, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. MAYOR, ON THE ON THE ISSUE OF CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE AND EVERYTHING, I KNOW YOU ALL WILL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN A IN A FORM TO BE REVIEWED FOR LEGAL REVIEW. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'D LIKE TO GET AS MUCH LEAD TIME ON THAT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME, SOME, SOME TIME TO REVIEW AND TO ASSURE OURSELVES THAT IT IS COMPLIANT WITH, YOU KNOW, APPLICABLE STATE FEDERAL LAWS AND SO FORTH. I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP IN THE PAST. I'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT CHARTER AND OTHER PROVISIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH OTHER LAW. SO TO THE DEGREE THAT WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THAT WE NEED TO BUILD THAT IN AS WELL. OKAY. AND I'LL COMMENT ON THAT. SO ON, ON THE AGAIN ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB OF SAYING, OKAY, HERE IS THE VERSION OF ARTICLE ONE OR CHAPTER ONE THAT WE HAVE AGREED [02:35:01] TO RECOMMEND. HERE'S THE VERSION OF CHAPTER TWO THAT WE HAVE HERE'S NOW THEY'RE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH CHAPTER THREE, WHICH IS THE REALLY LONG ONE, HARD ONE WITH A LOT OF THINGS. RIGHT. SO THERE IS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE 30% OR 50%. THERE IS SIGNIFICANT PORTION THAT THEY'VE KIND OF FINISHED THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND WITH WITH COUNCIL'S CONSENSUS. I'D BE GLAD TO TO POINT YOU, BRAD, TO THOSE THOSE PARTICULAR THREADS ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY DOWNLOAD WHAT THEY THEY'VE POSTED THERE OR COUNCIL CAN AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY. BUT IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT, WE CAN START SENDING THINGS YOUR WAY, BRAD, TO START WORKING YOUR WAY THROUGH IT IF THAT'S. YEAH. I MEAN, IF WE CAN IF WE CAN, IF WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO BEGIN THAT REVIEW, THEN THEN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO WE CAN GET START GET A GET A HEAD START ON IT. I SEE THAT'S NICE. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU I'LL EMAIL YOU THE FIRST CHAPTERS. THANK YOU SIR. TODAY OR TOMORROW OKAY. LAST THING I FORGOT AN UPDATE THAT LAGOS CIVIC ACADEMY HAS HAS A NAME. NOW, THIS IS THE ACADEMY FOR CITIZENS TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO TRAINING WITH THE CITY. I THINK I'VE SEEN SOME FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT THE COURSE IS GOING TO BE, HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE. EVERY DEPARTMENT WILL BE INVOLVED, INCLUDING COUNCIL. CITIZENS WILL GET TRAINING IN EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF ON HOW MUCH THEY PROGRESSED ON THAT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ONE. GETTING STARTED HERE, HOPEFULLY SHORTLY. AND WITH THAT, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THEN I WILL ADJOURN * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.