Feb 03, 2026 Golf Course Advisory Committee

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OKAY, WELL IT'S A, UH,

[I. CALL TO ORDER, CALL OF ROLL]

UM, SO I'LL START BY, UH, OUR NEW MEMBER, UH, IS JASON GRACE.

UH, I BELIEVE JASON, I SPOKE TO HIM BRIEFLY.

HE LIVES ON THE FIRST HOLE OF THE HORSE ON THE LEFT SIDE.

SO, AND HE'S A MEMBER OF THE MGA.

I THINK MIKE KNOWS THAT THEY GOLF TOGETHER.

SO JASON WILL BE THE NEW MEMBER THAT'S, I DUNNO, I'LL TELL HIM.

TEXT ME IF HE'S NO, NOT PERSONAL.

THIRD.

OH, OKAY.

THANK THE FIRST WHOLE THIRD HOUSE.

YEAH.

UH, SO HE IS TRAVELING FOR BUSINESS.

SO HE IS ON THE LIVE FEED.

HE'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR US.

HE'S TEXTING MYSELF AND MIKE.

SO IF WE NEED HIM FOR VOTES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, HE CAN TEXT HIM.

UM, SO HE'S A GOLFER.

IT'S GOOD.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY NEW, I'D SAY OF SOME YOUNG BLOOD, WHICH IS GOOD.

WE NEED MORE HIP BLOOD ON OUR TEAM HERE, SO THAT'S GOOD.

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JUST THAT.

SO, UH, THE FIRST UH, STEP IN THIS WOULD BE, JESS, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO REPORT.

TYPICALLY AS YOU GET INTO THE FLOW OF IT, YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

PAUL WAS YOUR PREDECESSOR.

HE'D COME IN, UH, FOR THE LAST YEAR.

IT WAS A LOT AROUND THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

I DID THAT ROOF.

SO I, THAT'S PROBABLY TOP OF MIND.

IF YOU HAVE INPUT, I'M SURE GREG WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME VIEW OF THAT PIECE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT OR WANT TO JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO FOLKS.

I'M JUST GETTING A COUPLE TEXT.

YOU'RE NOT

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SO, YEAH, I'LL HOLD ON.

SO ANYWAY, UH, BUT, UH, THAT WAS LARRY BY THE WAY.

SO I'M PREVIOUS CHAIR.

HE IS LOOKING AT IT.

SO LISTEN, .

OH, BUT HE DID.

HI LARRY.

HEY LARRY.

WE LOVE YOU.

CAN'T STOP WATCHING .

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ANY QUESTION? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, I, OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT, GREG OFF

[III. STAFF AND COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]

WELL, I'M FILE, I'M FOLLOWING THE AGENDA.

WELL, THAT'S ALRIGHT.

LEMME ADJUST THIS.

YOU DON'T NEED IT FROM ME ANYWAY.

ALL RIGHT.

HERE WE ARE AFTER THE ARCTIC LAST.

HOPE EVERYONE MADE IT THROUGH SAFELY.

UM, I WAS GOING TO KIND OF GO OVER, IT'S BEEN WHAT? NOVEMBER? OCTOBER.

OCTOBER.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE.

SO OCTOBER WAS THE START OF OUR FISCAL YEAR.

I WAS GONNA GO OVER SOME NUMBERS AT FIRST, BUT I THINK I'LL KIND OF GO OVER THE COURSE.

UM, COMING OFF THE ARCTIC BLAST.

SO WE STARTED COVERING GREENS ON FRIDAY MORNING PRIOR TO THE WEEKEND BLAST.

AND GEORGIA'S STAFF DID A GREAT JOB.

IT TAKES ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO THREE HOURS PER NINE TO GET 'EM DOWN.

SO WE HAD SOME PLAY FRIDAY MORNING, CLOSE DOWN AT 10 30 OR SO ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

AND THEN WE WERE CLOSE THROUGH WEDNESDAY.

WE TOOK 'EM OFF ON WEDNESDAY.

I KEPT IN TOUCH WITH MY FELLOW PROFESSIONALS, DIFFERENT COURSES, I THINK.

UM, SO WE WERE BACK CART PASS ONLY ON THURSDAY AND WE WERE BUSY 'CAUSE IT HAPPENED TO BE SUNNY THAT DAY.

AND THE WARMEST DAY WE'D HAD IN QUITE A WHILE.

SO WE DID 75 ROUNDS.

WE WERE CART PATH ONLY, WHICH DIDN'T FUND, BUT PEOPLE GOT STEPS IN.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

CRYSTAL FALLS OPENED AT NOON ON FRIDAY.

SO 24 HOURS, WELL, A DAY AND A HALF AFTER US.

AND THEN THERE WERE SEVERAL COURSES THAT DIDN'T OPEN UNTIL THIS MONDAY.

'CAUSE THEY HAD TO GET THE COURSE READY AND A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO MAKE IT SAFE.

SO OUR TEAM DID A GREAT JOB, GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE AND GETTING THIS OPEN QUICKLY.

WE DIDN'T SUFFER ANY DAMAGE ON THE GREENS.

UM, SO THAT'S THE POSITIVES.

THAT'S WHY YOU PUT TARPS DOWN FOR RULE THUMB THROUGHOUT THE INDUSTRY.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.

IF YOU'RE MID TWENTIES OR LOWER FOR 12 HOURS OR MORE, YOU COVER GRAINS AND YOU KNOW, THE FORECAST.

I LOOK AT IT 20 TIMES A DAY.

AND TODAY'S MODERN TECHNOLOGY, WEATHER WORLD, IT CHANGES MORE THAN IT USED TO.

BUT WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE BAD.

SO WE HAD 50 HOURS PLUS BELOW 30 IN TOWN HERE.

SO THANKFULLY IT SHOWS YOU WHY YOU SPEND MONEY ON TARS.

WE SHOULD TRANSITION JUST FINE.

UM, REST OF THE CONDITION OF THE COURSE.

I MEAN, WHERE THE RYE POPPED UP, LIKE I HIT UPON IN OCTOBER, I BELIEVE.

THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE GREENER GRASS.

THAT'S A SEED BED THAT HAPPENS.

MOTHER NATURE COOPERATES.

UH, OURS KEEPS HAPPENING LIKE IT HAS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS EVERY FALL.

THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE ONCE UPON A TIME HERE, THEY OVERSEE THE GOLF COURSE AND IT WILL BASICALLY GO DORMANT, BUT THEN POPS UP.

SO THAT'S BEEN OUR SAVIOR ON SOME GRASS AND FAIRWAYS AND TEES.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT STARTS WAKING UP IN APRIL, THE RYE WILL HANG ON UNTIL ABOUT MAY, THEN IT WILL DIE OUT.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE

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WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.

BUT FREEZES DON'T REALLY HURT THAT BECAUSE IT'S DORMANT ANYWAY.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL HIT, I'M GONNA SAVE KIND OF AN UPDATE ON REVENUES AND BUSY TILL THE END.

I'LL TOUCH ON THE IRRIGATION PROJECT.

UM, AS I SAID, MOST OF YOU KNOW, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

UH, I CAME HERE JUST, I WON'T GO INTO A 15 MINUTE ORDEAL WHERE I'M FROM AND WHAT MY BACKGROUND IS.

BUT I CAME HERE BECAUSE I KNEW THIS COURSE, UH, IN TODAY'S INDUSTRY TO MAKE IT DO A LOT BETTER.

I'D BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND AMANDA, WHO'S OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS MARKETING DIRECTOR AS WELL, AND HAD HIGH HOPES.

I'VE BEEN INTO BUSINESS A LONG TIME.

I'M OLDER, SO I GREW UP ON A MUNI 36 OLD IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

SO I FIGURED WHAT A BETTER WAY THAN TO GO OUT HELPING THE MUNI OF COURSE, AND OWED IT.

I KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO.

UM, SO DURING THAT TIME, A LOT HAS HAPPENED.

YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE THAT TWO OCTOBERS AGO THERE WAS A CEASE AND DESIST ON BEGINNING THE FIRST IRRIGATION PROJECT.

UM, WHICH TRUTHFULLY IN THE END, TIMING WISE, I WISH IT WOULD'VE HAPPENED.

BUT THAT WAS A GOOD THING.

SAVED THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY.

PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH DESIGN.

UM, NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OR ARE NOW.

IT JUST, IT WAS DESIGNED ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

UM, SO WHEN YOU TAKE 1.5 MILLION GALLONS TO PUT ON A GOLF COURSE, WHICH I'LL NEVER PUT THAT MUCH, YOU CUT IT DOWN TO 800, THAT LOWERS COST.

SO IT, IT WAS A GOOD THING AND EVERYBODY'S DONE A GOOD JOB GETTING IT TOGETHER.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN SIGNED.

UM, THERE'LL BE A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING IN TWO OR THREE WEEKS, GEORGE, AND I'LL BE THERE.

GEORGE IS OUR GOLF COURSE SUPERINTENDENT, JESS.

UH, YEAH, WE'LL PLAY A ROLE OBVIOUSLY IN DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, BUT LES HILL, WHO WAS A BIG PART OF DESIGN, AND THEN VICTOR, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, ERNESTO, THE COMMITTEE, IRRIGATION SUBCOMMITTEE.

EVERYBODY'S DONE A GOOD JOB.

SO IT'S COMING TO FRUITION.

I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO OCTOBERS AGO, BUT THIS TIME IT HAPPENS.

OR YOU WON'T SEE ME HERE IN A MONTH OR TWO.

I WON'T MAKE THE MEETING LARRY.

HOW, HOW MANY BIDS RECEIVED? UH, THERE WAS QUITE A FEW.

JACK.

I MEAN, I KNOW PROBABLY AT LEAST 10 PEOPLE REACHED OUT TO VICTOR AND, YOU KNOW, FINAL HARDCORE WRITTEN PROPOSAL, BIDS, CONTRACTS, THEY PROBABLY HAD, I DUNNO, CLOSE TO HALF A DOZEN.

SO IT WAS GOOD.

AND, AND THE PEOPLE DOING IT HAVE THE TRACK RECORD.

THEY'VE BASICALLY OUTTA CALIFORNIA.

THEY'VE DONE SOME REALLY WELL RENOWNED COURSES THERE AND THEY'VE DONE A COUPLE IN TEXAS AS WELL.

SO THAT'S ALL GOOD THING.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AS YOU KNOW, I CAN TALK, UM, THAT WILL PROBABLY BEGIN, GIVE OR TAKE SOMETIME IN MARCH.

THEY'VE GOT 150 DAY CLAUSE IN THEIR CONTRACT.

UH, USUALLY AGAIN, I'VE BUILT TWO NEW ONES, RENOVATED A COUPLE, BEEN INVOLVED.

SO I'VE GOT TO WATCH IT AND BE INVOLVED IN THE BUILDING, BUT THEN WATCH RENOVATIONS AS A GOLF PROFESSIONAL.

I'VE SEEN IT TAKE, GIVE OR TAKE SIX MONTHS.

SO IT'S GOOD ON WHAT THEY HAVE.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE EQUIPMENT BREAKDOWNS OR ACTS OF GOD OR MOTHER NATURE, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY CHANGE.

SO WE SHOULD BE FINISHED.

MM, AROUND FIRST PART OF AUGUST.

BEST CASE AROUND AUGUST ONE, WORST CASE, PROBABLY LABOR DAY.

SO, AND THEY DID A GOOD JOB ON NUMBER TWO, WHICH WILL BE OUR DETENTION POND, OUR IRRIGATION POND.

UM, SO IT'S EXCITING.

UM, I COULD GO ON ABOUT IT, BUT THAT WILL BASICALLY START THE REBIRTH OF LA VISTA GOLF COURSE.

CHAPTER TWO.

CHAPTER ONE HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

SO ALL, UH, GREG IS, YES, SIR, THIS GOING TO BE, AS YOU DESCRIBED BEFORE, THEY'RE GONNA CLOSE ONE OR TWO HOLES AND PLAY WILL CONTINUE.

YEAH, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT NOW.

UM, I'M GONNA TRANSITION.

SO BEFORE I GO INTO, I MEAN, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'LL JUST BE ONE WORST CASE.

TWO, BUT USUALLY ONE.

AND

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SO EVERYONE WOULD TAKE NET PAR ON THE HOLE THAT'S CLOSED.

SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH HANDICAP PURPOSES OR GOLF GAMES OR TOURNAMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT FOR YOU PLAYING 17 HOLES PHYSICALLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I GO OVER NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, GEORGE HAS BEEN SUPERINTENDENT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, BUT HE IS EMPLOYED, BEEN EMPLOYED FOR THREE YEARS.

I'VE BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

WHEN I CAME HERE THAT YEAR CLOSED OUT, WE DID 17,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF.

THIS LAST YEAR WE DID ABOUT 32,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF.

SO WE'VE ALMOST DOUBLED IT, UM, THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO.

SO I STARTED LOOKING AT IT HARD FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED.

IT SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN OPEN.

UM, JUST FROM A PUBLICITY, UH, MARKETING PLAYABILITY STANDPOINT BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, I MEAN, THERE WAS NO GREENS THAT YOU COULD PLAY.

AND THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE, I MEAN THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OR TWO, BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE HAD MOON CRATERS OR POTHOLES.

IT'S WHAT WE CALL IN THE INDUSTRY AS GOLF PROFESSIONALS AND SUPERINTENDENTS.

SO IT'S COME MILES IN THESE THREE YEARS, TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE.

YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME CHANGES MADE, BUT IT'S, IT'S FUN.

IT'S GREAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE FROM LOSING, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL FUND, ME SEEING 800 GRAND, 900 GRAND THROWN TO THE GOLF COURSE TO THREE 50.

THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR.

I'VE SEEN IT GO FROM LOSING SEVEN, $800,000, UM, TO LOSING ABOUT THREE 50 THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR.

AND THIS IS WITHOUT NO BIG INVESTMENTS, NO IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS HARD WORK.

AND, AND HAVING A GOOD TEAM THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, SO THIS IRRIGATION PROJECT, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HAPPY IT MAKES ALL OF US.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THROUGH FOUR MONTHS, A THIRD OF THE YEAR, THE PHYSICAL YEAR WE'RE ABOUT, MM, I'M ON PACE WITH THE MONTHS I'VE HAD, WHICH ARE SLOW MONTHS IN THE INDUSTRY EXCEPT FOR OCTOBER TO, YOU KNOW, I PROJECTED 5% OVER IN REVENUES.

I STILL FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WHOLE CLOSE, NO BIG DEAL.

UM, SOME GOLFERS WILL ENJOY IT.

KINDA WATCHING, SEEING THAT KIND OF STARTS TELLING THE STORY OF STUFF GOING ON OUT HERE.

WE'LL BE 5%, MAYBE EVEN MORE.

MOTHER NATURE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THAT IN OUR INDUSTRY AS WELL.

BUT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD FIRST FOUR MONTHS.

WE'RE ABOUT 11, 12% UP IN REVENUE.

UM, AND ABOUT 20% UP IN ROUNDS AND EXPENSES RIGHT NOW, SOMEWHERE AROUND 1 10, 1 20.

THAT'S THROUGH A THIRD OF THE YEAR.

SO I'M ON ABOUT THE SAME PACE AS LAST YEAR, BUT I DON'T, IT'LL BE ABOUT THE SAME OR BETTER.

AND THE BUDGET WAS CUT.

I CUT IT THREE TIMES AND THEN IT WAS CUT AGAIN.

SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

ONCE IRRIGATION IS COMPLETE, WE'LL START SEEING WHAT GRASSES WE REALLY HAVE IN THE FAIRWAYS, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF FOUR 19 AND COMMON BERMUDA AND SEE WHERE IT'S GOOD, WHERE IT'S NOT.

THAT LEADS INTO, UH, I'M MEETING WITH THE USGA AND TGA, THAT'S UNITED STATES GOLF ASSOCIATION, TEXAS GOLF ASSOCIATION IN MARCH.

UH, MARY HARRISON IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.

SHE'S BEEN WITH TGA FOR 30 YEARS AND SHE KIND OF SET THIS UP.

THEY HAVE USGA HAS A THING CALLED PROJECT MUNI AND IT'S A GRANT DESIGNED FOR MUNICIPAL AND GOLF COURSES.

SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE COURSE, TALK ME, SHOW THEM WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE BETTER NEXT AFTER IRRIGATION THEM GIVING ME THEIR COMMENTS.

AND IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, WHICH I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT, THEY'LL GIVE US 15 GRAND.

THE CITY HAVE TO, HAS TO MATCH.

SO THAT'S THEIR ONLY PROVISION.

BUT THAT'S STILL A GREAT THING, BELIEVE ME.

I MEAN, AND IF THEY GIVE US 10, WE GOTTA MATCH 10.

SO I EXPECT TO COME IN WITH THEM OFFERING BETWEEN 10 AND 15.

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UM, THERE'S A FEW OF THEM THAT ARE LEVEL AND PLAYABLE.

MOST OF THEM ARE SAD.

AND THAT'S BEING KIND WHEN YOU TEE OFF, YOU DON'T HAVE A DOWNHILL LINE TO HIT YOUR DRIVER OR BLOW YOUR FEET OR UP YOUR FEET.

AND I PERSONALLY MOVED THE TEES.

I STARTED DOING THAT ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO WHEN I NEEDED A LITTLE HELP AND MAINTENANCE.

AND I MEAN, I CAN'T FIND ANY GRASS.

UH, BUT I TRY TO GET WHERE I CAN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AFTER TRY TO KEEP IT LEVEL SO THAT TEES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO GEORGE AND I.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE WILL, IF THIS COMES TO FRUITION, THIS IS WHERE WE'LL RECOMMEND PROBABLY USING THAT MONEY.

NOW THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE AND RENOVATING GOLF COURSES, BUT SOME ARE, WE CAN WORK WITH, THEY'RE FINE, BUT 80% OF 'EM NEED HELP.

SO, UM, THIS YEAR, 2025, THERE WERE 82 I THINK IT WAS.

LEMME DOUBLE CHECK MY, YEAH, 82 MILLION ROUNDS OF GOLF.

PLAYED IT BEAT LAST YEAR BY 7%.

SO MORE ROUNDS OF GOLF PLAYED EVER IN HISTORY.

IF WE GET THIS PLACE, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE I KNOW WE CAN, UH, I'M NOT GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, 26, 27 BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF IRRIGATION PROJECT.

I THINK THAT WE'LL BREAK EVEN, MAY EVEN MAKE A LITTLE MONEY.

THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN.

SO WE'LL SEE KIND OF HOW IT GOES.

BUT THEN 27, 28 FOR SURE, THERE'S NO REASON WE SHOULDN'T BE IN THE BLACK.

I DID KIND OF A SHORT PERFORMA FOR CHARLES, OUR STUDY MANAGER, UH, BACK IN, I DON'T KNOW, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER OVER, JUST BASED ON 40,000 ROUNDS.

KEEP IN MIND WE DID 32,000 THIS YEAR.

WELL THAT'S NOTHING 'CAUSE OUR COMPETITORS AND EVERYWHERE AROUND US ARE DOING 48 TO 60.

SO, AND, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I SHOWED LIKE A $2 INCREASE ON WEEKDAY GREEN FEES AND THE $5 ON WEEKEND, WHICH IS MORE THAN JUSTIFIABLE 'CAUSE WE'LL STILL BE AT THE BOTTOM TIER OF ALL OUR COMPETITORS AND MUNICIPAL HORSES.

AND THAT GOT US A LITTLE IN THE BLACK THAT WE DO BETTER IN BREAKEVEN THAT 40,000 ROUNDS SHOULD BE ABOUT 45 TO 48 FOR A COURSE LIKE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE LOCATED ONCE EVERYTHING IS IS FINISHED.

SO THAT'S REALLY, LEMME DOUBLE CHECK.

MAKE SURE I DIDN'T JOT ANYTHING ELSE DOWN THAT GETS YOU UP TO WHAT'S GONE ON SINCE THE FALL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS, ALMOST THREE YEARS FOR ME, NOT QUITE THREE FOR GEORGE.

THREE CITY MANAGERS, THREE MAYORS, MANY COUNCIL CHANGES.

UM, I THINK THREE OR FOUR GOLF LIAISONS WHEW.

HAD A LOT OF CHANGE.

BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME SUPPORT GOLF WISE.

SOME THERE HADN'T.

BUT I, I FEEL AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN I HAVE ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE COMING TOGETHER TO HELP THE GOLF COURSE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THANKS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY? CONSTRUCTION MEETING, PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ON COURSE PEOPLE LIKE GEORGE AND I AND THEIR TEAM IN THERE AS WELL AND LES AND THAT'S WHEN ALL THE LOGISTICS ARE LAID DOWN.

AND THEN I'M SURE WE'LL PICK A KIND OF A HARD DATE WHERE IT'S STARTING.

YEAH, BUT I'M, I'M THINKING MIKE, IT'S SHOULDN'T BE WHETHER IT'S THE 1ST OF MARCH OR THE END OF MARCH, IT SHOULD BE.

YEAH, THE NUMBER TWO WENT GREAT.

SO, AND YOU KNOW, VICTOR, THE PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THE CITY, HE, HE'S A GREAT ENGINEER.

HE'S A VERY, VERY GOOD ENGINEER.

THIS FORTE IS NOT GOLF, BUT HE'S ON TOP OF WHAT'S GOING ON PROJECT WISE AND EVERYTHING HAS REALLY BEEN GOOD.

NUMBER TWO WENT GREAT.

I DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT, BUT, WELL,

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UM, YEAH, NO, IT, IT, IT DOES.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T, WE WON'T START PUMPING WATER FROM 17 INTO TWO.

OBVIOUSLY THE PUMP HOUSE COINCIDES WITH ALL THIS, UM, UNTIL IT'S FILTERED OUT AND WHAT WE'RE PUMPING INTO TWO, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT BACK IN THE GOLF COURSE AND OUR NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

WE, WE DON'T WANNA START CLOGGING HEADS AND MESSING STUFF UP.

AND SO, SO IT, IT ALL KIND OF COMES TOGETHER.

UM, I'M MORE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM ANYTHING, BUT I'M MORE ABOUT DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, GEORGE AS WELL.

BUT GEORGE WILL BE MORE INTO, IF HE SEES SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING OR HAPPENING, HE'LL, HE'LL CONVERSE WITH, WITH VICTOR AND, AND THE CONTRACTOR.

IT'LL BE A TEAM EFFORT.

UH, BUT THERE'LL BE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS GOING ON THE NEXT FIVE, SIX MONTHS.

BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE OWNED BY THE CITY.

UM, I'VE WORKED FOR DEVELOPERS, I'VE WORKED FOR, UH, CORPORATIONS AND I'VE WORKED FOR INDIVIDUALS AND, AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH CONSTRUCTION OF NEW COURSES AND RENOVATIONS AND, AND THIS WILL GO WELL.

I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE SURE THINGS YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO IMPROVISE AND MAKE CHANGES IN THE FIELD, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT.

FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT 14 RIGHT NOW, IT IS GONNA REMAIN ONE.

UM, THEY'LL GET, THEY'LL FUNCTIONING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

SO YOU, AND THEN THAT, THAT PUMP HOUSE THAT'S GETTING READY TO FALL DOWN THE HILL, THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN OUT.

I MEAN YEAH, THAT'S ALL, ALL THAT IS FROM EVERYTHING I HEAR AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOCUSING ON THAT, I SEE IT, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

NO DOUBT.

QUESTIONS MR. GREG? APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT,

[IV. 1. Consideration and action regarding the election of a Chairperson, Vice Chair, and Secretary.]

UH, SO THREE SLOTS WE ALWAYS HAVE IS A CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, AND A SECRETARY.

ALRIGHT, .

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO BE CONSIDER OR DOES THAT MAKE IT AN EASY VOTE? OKAY.

I'D SAY, UH, LET'S HAVE, DAVE, YOU CAN HELP ME WITH PROPER PROTOCOL, BUT WE ASK FOR A SHOW OF HANDS.

I, WE DOMINATE, I I SLATE LETTER.

OKAY.

UM, CHAIR YOU VICE CHAIR SU SECOND.

I'M FINE WITH THAT.

IF THERE A SECOND.

OKAY, A SECOND.

SO BE IT.

JUST NEED TO ASK FOR THE VOTE.

OKAY.

SO, OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU NEED TO ASK HIM NOMINATIONS.

ARE NOMINATIONS CLOSED? YEAH, I'M FINE.

I'LL BE HONEST.

UH, JASON WHO'S NEW, HE SAID HE WOULD DO THAT IF HE WANT.

I KNOW YOU GUYS, UH, YOU HAVE SORT OF FRIENDS WORK WORK, SO I'M COMFORTABLE EITHER WAY.

SO I THINK UNFORTUNATELY JASON'S NOT HERE, BUT I KNOW HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

SO WE COULD NOMINATE JASON AS WELL TO BE VICE CHAIR.

I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE.

ALRIGHT, WELL LET RESTATE YEAH, LET ME RESTATE MY NOMINATIONS.

THAT WOULD BE MICHAEL, PRESIDENT JASON, VICE CHAIR VICE.

OKAY.

SO, SO SECOND.

SECOND.

THAT MOTION MARK.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SO NOMINATIONS.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

AND JUST ASK HIM ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

THAT WAS, I THOUGHT IT'D BE MORE PAINFUL.

.

WELL IT IS.

YEAH.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

UM,

[IV. 2. Approval of the October 28, 2025, Golf Course Advisory Committee Minutes.]

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UH, THOSE LOOK FINE WITH ME.

THE ONLY COMMENT IS I GUESS MY STILL BE, UH, SO I THINK THE MEETING MINUTES WERE FINE.

SO I GUESS WE CAN PUT THOSE INTO THE RECORD.

, THAT'S HOW IT, ALRIGHT, WE SWITCH.

ALL RIGHT.

AS HE WAS SAYING, AND I THINK Y'ALL LET ME GET MEETING NOTES FROM LAST MEETING OCTOBER 28TH.

DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON IT OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM? SECOND COMMITTEE, ANYBODY THAT EMOTIONAL PASS THAT I CAN ALWAYS DO THE DEAL.

DO IT LIKE THAT, THOSE

[IV. 3. Consideration and possible action regarding GCAC 2026 work plan activities.]

THE SECOND THING WE NEED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH IS, UH, OUR WORK PLAN ACTIVITIES.

I DON'T HAVE THAT DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW THINGS OVER LAST YEAR OR WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.

THANK YOU SIR.

YEP.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE KIND OF, I THINK THAT WAS ALWAYS THE GOAL WAS THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE ON THIS I THINK NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY MIKE AND JASON WILL BE HERE AND WE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAILED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE KIND OF WANNA DO OR WANT TO SPLIT UP.

UM, I KNOW GAGE YOU WERE THAT YOU WERE DOING THIS TOP ONE, THE FINANCIAL PUSHING, YOU WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THE FINANCIAL POSITION.

JACK AND I, Y'ALL GONNA CONTINUE ON THAT, THAT'S FINE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, OVERALL VALUE PART PORTION OF IT TO BOTH RESIDENTS AND NOT RESIDENTS.

THAT WAS MIKE D AND WE'LL, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL GO INTO IT FOR NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S WHERE GOING, SEE WHO ELSE MAY BE COMING TO ABOUT.

ONE THING I DO WANT TO BRING UP IS I HAD SOMEBODY FROM THE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT.

MAYBE THIS ISN'T OUR AREA AND COUNCIL MEMBER JESS, TO TELL US WAY OR THE OTHER.

BUT, UH, I HAD A PERSON FROM THE, UH, CHAMBER REACH OUT TO ME AND WAS INQUIRING ABOUT, UH, WHETHER IT CAME THROUGH US AS A PROPOSAL OR IF IT, IF THEY HAD TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE CITY, BUT SOMEHOW THEM WORKING SOMETHING OUT WITH ADVERTISING OR HAVING SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE JOIN THE CHAMBER, THAT COULD BE PART OF A PACKAGE AS WELL.

THAT THEY WOULD THEN KIND OF TRY TO SELL SPONSORSHIPS FOR DIFFERENT HOLES AND STUFF FOR THE GOLF COURSE THAT OF COURSE WOULD BE PAID TO THE CITY.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LIKE, THE CHAIN THAT WOULD HAVE, WOULD BE KIND OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.

SO I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.

THAT WOULD BROUGHT UP TO, WE CAN KIND OF GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE.

YOU KIND OF SEE, IF YOU DON'T MIND COUNSEL, WHICH AREA WE WOULD NEED TO GO NOW DO I NEED TO DIRECT THEM STRAIGHT TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, GO TALK TO THEM? OR IS IT COME THROUGH A COMMITTEE OF SOMETHING? MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT PARTNERSHIP NORMALLY THAT I, I, I THINK THE BEST ROUTE WOULD BE FOR TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

MAKE, MAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

APPROPRIATE.

I WILL, I'LL ACTUALLY TAKE THAT ACTION ITEM.

AND SINCE I'M THE ONE WHO WAS CONTACTED AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE, I CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT MAYBE BRINGING A PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING UP TO US ABOUT THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE HAD SOME SPONSORSHIPS THERE, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T PAY FOR 'EM AND THEY KIND OF LINGERED OUT THERE FOR A WHILE.

SO IT WOULD BE NICE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S KIND OF WEIRD.

I I DROVE THE, UH, OLD GOLF COURSE THE OTHER DAY OR THE ABANDONED GOLF COURSE AND ALL THEIR SIGNS ARE STILL AROUND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO WERE SPONSORS WITH DIFFERENT HOLES.

BUT IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, IT LOOKED NICE TO THOSE SIGNS OF THAT, UH, THERE WAS LIKE, NO, NOT HARDLY ANY.

I THINK WE HAVE ONE, I THINK BOTH 16 NOW.

THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER SIGNS OUT THERE, BUT I THINK SIXTEEN'S ON THAT'S SPONSORED.

AND I KNOW THERE'S ONE ON A HOLE EIGHT THAT IS IN MEMORY, BUT THERE'S SPEC PAGE OF THAT.

THE GOLF COURSE.

JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.

IT'S A WAY TO GENERATE REVENUE.

IF IT'S A WAY TO GENERATE REVENUE,

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AND, BUT I'LL TALK TO THAT PERSON, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SEE IF THEY, THEY WANT TO DO A PRESENTATION, SO DON'T BRING IT TO US.

SO YOU, YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT, UH, BE CITY COUNSELING AGENDA, UH, THAT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED IN ADVANCE.

UH, THIS WOULD BE JUST FOR HERE THEN I WOULD COME TO YOU, RIGHT.

OR THAT STANDPOINT.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO UNDO A PRESENTATION TO US FIRST AND THEN IF WE THOUGHT IF IT MADE SENSE, THEN I THINK THAT'S THE PROTOCOL.

I BELIEVE I CAN GO TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO GET ON CITY AGENDA OR, OR HAVE THEM.

WE'LL FIGURE THAT PORTION ON JUST, UH, JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE WEREN'T ALREADY OF THE, THE TIME.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT EASY AT ALL.

SO, UH, NO, WE'LL I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW EVERYTHING THERE.

AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, THIS WAS TWO PEOPLE JUST TALKING, YOU KNOW, AND IT COULD GO SOMEWHERE.

IT MIGHT NOT.

BUT I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT MAYBE COULD HELP, YOU KNOW, GENERATE SOME STUFF AND, UH, GENERATE SOME INCOME IN ANY WAY AND, UH, BE GREAT TO BALANCE THAT AS WELL.

SO, UM, SO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE WORK PLAN, RIGHT? THERE'S OTHER SUGGESTIONS OTHER THAN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

UH, LIKE I SAID, WE CAN TABLE IT TO NEXT MEETING AS WELL.

WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE MEMBERS HERE, BUT, UH, IT SHOULD BE MAINLY 'CAUSE AS WE ALL SEE, WE, WE MEET ONCE A MONTH AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT SUSIE'S A BOARD MEMBER.

I STILL THINK YOU'RE SO, I MEAN YOU HAVE THAT GOING ON.

I'M ON THE MGA BOARD.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE ARE, WE'RE ALL BUSY.

THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A VOLUNTEER THING.

SO I THINK THAT THE TWO THINGS THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE ARE THESE TWO ITEMS, BUT MORE THAN SUFFICIENTLY.

AND I TAKE US TO WHERE WE GO AND ESPECIALLY I STILL, AND I, I KEEP GOING BACK TO COMMENTS THAT WE'RE STILL KIND OF HANDCUFFED OR WHAT WE COULD EVEN SUGGEST UNTIL THE GOLF COURSE IS FUNCTIONING.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET OUT THERE, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S DO THAT.

BUT THAT COULD ALSO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT OF BRINGING PEOPLE IN.

BUT THE GOLF COURSE JUST ISN'T QUITE QUITE READY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY I THINK WHO PLAY IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USED TO IT.

THEY KNOW IT, IT IS WHAT IT'S, WE PLAY IT ALL THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE HOLD FOUR IS HOLD FOUR, THERE'S NO GRASS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DEAL WITH IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE GO OUT, WE, WE WANT TO PROMOTE, WE DO THIS AND THAT.

WE ALSO BEING COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THE COURSE ISN'T QUITE RIGHT.

SO, SO WE'RE KIND OF WORKING WITHIN THAT PARAMETERS, UNLESS ANYBODY DISAGREES.

WE, YOU, I, AND I THINK THAT'S STILL A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT ACCURATE.

I DO, I DO.

I THINK WE, WE NEED TO AS WELL.

I WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP AS WELL.

THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF WITH THE WORK PLAN, BUT KIND OF NOT.

BUT I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO AS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THESE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S MOVE TOWARDS THAT.

I DO THAT.

WE HAD A VERY GOOD MEETING WITH THAT, BUT OF COURSE THINGS STALLED OUT.

I MEAN, YOU'VE BEEN ON YOUR SHOULDER.

YEAH, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL STUFF WE JUST NEED TO JUMPSTART.

WE JUST NEED JUMPSTART AND STAY ON TOP OF IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I ASK OF ANY OF THE MEMBERS HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S TRY TO STAY ENGAGED.

IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DOING SOME OF THOSE, THOSE ITEMS ON THERE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WORK WITH THE PARTS CORRECT.

YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU'RE GOING AT LEAST TO, YOU KNOW, A MEETING OR, OR MEETING WITH, WITH THEM AS GO SIDE OR SOMETHING TO JUST KEEP THE CONVERSATION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT AS FAR AS THE WORK PLAN ACTIVITIES? WELL, I WILL SAY THIS, I DO THINK,

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I'VE SEEN HIS POST WHEN HE MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY WAS GETTING APPROVED AND I SAW HIM MAKE A POST OUT THERE THAT KIND OF EXPLAINED THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS SAID IT'S A, A FLUENT, THERE'S A, IT'S A GOLF COURSE THAT SITS ON AFFLUENT WATER SYSTEM IS WHAT IT'S, AND UH, BUT I THINK ONCE AGAIN, LET'S, WE'RE STILL KIND OF HANDCUFFED.

LET'S, WE ALL, LIKE HE SAID, WE SAW TWO OCTOBERS AGO AND YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL EXCITED AND WE SAW PIPE BEING DELIVERED AND MACHINERY AND EVERYTHING, ONLY TO SEE IT ALL TAKEN AWAY.

AND UH, SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIRST LET PIPE GET, YOU KNOW, START GETTING PUT IN THE GROUND.

UM, BEFORE WE START EVEN THINKING ABOUT, AND I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO GIVE GREG, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIS, IT'S HIS SHOW.

I MEAN, LET'S LET, LET'S SEE WHAT HE'S DOING AS FAR AS, UH, MARKETING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT'S, WE'RE KIND OF HERE TO ASSIST HIM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WE GOTTA GIVE HIM, I'VE ALWAYS SAID HIM AND GEORGE WE'RE GIVING BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, A SCREWDRIVER OR A HAMMER THAT WAS ABOUT IT IN THEIR TOOLBOX.

THEY GOT A TOOLBOX.

BUT THOSE ARE ONLY TWO TOOLS THEY'VE HAD ALL THIS TIME.

SO ONCE THEY FINALLY ACCUMULATE MORE TOOLS, THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.

LET'S SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS? WE NEED BETTER SOCIAL.

WE DO DO KNOW.

SO THAT'S A CITY I KNOW, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET, I MEAN WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT ON, ON OTHER THINGS.

I MEAN, I KNOW MT A WE'RE DEALING, IT'S LIKE IT CAN'T JUST BE A SITE.

WE GOTTA GET OUT THERE.

YOU GOTTA START PUTTING THINGS OUT.

THAT'S HOW MOST PEOPLE GONNA TESTIFY.

I HAVE A, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

SO WE CAN COME UP WITH WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH.

IT COULD BE YOU DOCUMENT OF SOME SORT, BUT FOR US TO UH, GET THAT MESSAGE OUT, WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH, DO WE NEED APPROVAL FROM ANYBODY TO DO THAT? DO WE JUST DO IT ON OUR OWN? HOW DOES THAT WORK? LET'S SAY, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, I'M JUST GONNA USE THIS AS A HYPOTHETICAL.

UH, A WHILE BACK THERE WAS SOME ONE PAGE THING THAT CAME FROM THE CITY WITH OUR, OUR, OUR UTILITY BILL THAT WAS EXPLAINING WATER PURIFICATION OR, OR SOMETHING.

IT WAS A ONE PAGE THING.

AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY THAT'S A PROPERTY OWNER WOULD'VE, WOULD'VE, WOULD'VE GOTTEN THAT.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I'VE, I'VE SEEN OTHER THAN FACEBOOK TO GET A MESSAGE OUT.

SO LET'S SAY WE WANTED TO USE THAT AND LET'S SAY IT WAS A ONE PAGE DOCUMENT THAT WAS EXPLAINING THE VALUE OF OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND THE AFFLUENT AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS ABOUT, ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE.

WE WANNA PUT THAT OUT.

WHO, WHO NEEDS TO APPROVE IT? I THINK THAT, DO WE CITY COUNCIL OR IS THERE POLITICS INVOLVED WITH THAT WHERE SOME PEOPLES MIGHT SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT MESSAGE YET, OTHERS MIGHT BE ALL FOR IT.

HOW DOES, YOU KNOW IF WORK BACKWARDS FROM WHATEVER OUR END RESULT IS BE BEFORE WE GO TO THE TROUBLE OF PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER? NO, I AGREE.

IT'S ANYTHING THAT HAS TO COME OUT, DIRECTIVE FROM THE CITY NOT TO GET CITY APPROVED.

WHO THAT PERSON IS.

I'M NOT SURE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STRAIGHT TO THE COUNCIL OR IF YOU GO TO THE CITY MANAGER AND SEE IF, IF, IF, IF THEY CAN DO SOMETHING SO WELL, WELL, THE UH, NEWSLETTER, I, YOU KNOW, THE CITY PUTS OUT WITH UTILITY BILLS THAT, THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY STAFF.

OKAY.

SO CITY MANAGER WOULD BE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, MADE THE CITY MANAGER.

RIGHT.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE OF COURSE HAVE TO GET IT APPROVED.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE THING THAT THIS COMMITTEE DOES.

IF WE WANT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN GO TO THEM AND ASK, CAN, CAN WE PUT THIS OUT THERE? WHETHER THEY DO IT OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR DECISION.

THAT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THING TO, UH, THAT I'M NOT CLEAR ON IS WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WILL ACTUALLY VISIBLY LOOK BETTER.

AND THAT MAY NOT UNTIL SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.

UH, BECAUSE SITUATIONS, I KNOW THAT'S A WEIRD QUESTION BECAUSE WE SAW IT IN JULY AFTER THE FLOODS AND IT LIKE LOOKED LIKE A REAL GOLF COURSE FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS AND THEN IT WENT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.

SO I DUNNO HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA TAKE.

WE HAVE TO SEE, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE'RE KIND, I KEEP GOING BACK TO WE'RE KIND OF HANDCUFFED.

WE DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T KNOW.

SO WE HOPE THAT YES, THEY, THEY PUT IN A SPRINKLER ON HOLE TWO AND SO THEY START THERE AND WE SEE WITHIN SIX WEEKS, OH WOW, LOOK ALL THIS GRASS I CAN SEE THE FAIRWAY BE WILL THAT HAPPEN? I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, IT'S, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FIRST, BUT WE NEED TO ASK THAT AT ONE

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I THOUGHT THAT WAS IT.

THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO USE WHAT CAME OVER IN TWO AND THAT'S AND AND START PUMPING THAT OUT.

AND IT WAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

WE, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING DO NEED TO ASK.

SO IT WAS MY UNDER, I THOUGHT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THOUGH, THAT THEY, ONCE THEY PUT FINISHED A HOLE, THE WATER, THE WATER WOULD START THAT HOLE.

SO, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW.

UNDERSTAND.

CORRECT.

WELL WE, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT LYING.

WHEN WE HAD THE FLOOD IN JULY, IT IT WAS, YOU WENT OUT THERE, I MEAN I, I DON'T KNOW IF SUSIE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION, BUT THEY WERE EVEN CUT.

YOU COULD SEE CUT FAIRWAYS.

IT WAS, IT WAS NICE.

AND THEN THE DROUGHT CAME RIGHT AFTER OR OR DRY SPELL.

YOU SAW IT GO, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.

WELL, THERE'S GONNA BE A FLOOD ON AUGUST 1ST AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP FLOODING.

800,000 GALLONS A YEAR.

A YEAR.

800,000 GALLONS A YEAR, A MONTH.

WHAT IS IT? THAT'S A MONTH.

A MONTH, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S 800,000.

DID THEY SHOOT OUT? AND THAT'S ENOUGH TO IRRIGATE ALL THE FAIRWAYS RIGHT IN THE GREENS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT MEANS.

WE HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE STUFF.

IT'S NOT, IT'S, I KNOW IT'S WEIRD.

IT'S, IT'S, IT GOES DOWN TO THE ACREAGE, THE OF WHERE THE WATER NEEDS TO BE DISPERSED AND THERE'S NO, LIKE, YOU CAN'T GO OVER ONE MONTH AND BE UNDER ANOTHER MONTH AND BALANCE OUT.

YOU HAVE TO GET THAT MARK NO MATTER WHAT.

SO YEAH, IT'S A, I I LEARNED MORE ABOUT THAT PERMIT THAN I PROBABLY EVER STARTING REAL TRACTION.

WE ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, I DUNNO BACK.

MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THAT WE JUST FIND, GET OUR, BASICALLY JUST GET OUR NAME OUT THERE WITHOUT MAKING ANY REAL PROMISES THAT WE CAN.

NOTHING MORE THAN TION, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO WHAT, UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING SIT DOWN CITY MANAGER, COUPLE IDEAS AT LEAST WOULD KEEP THE MINIMUM.

THE MINIMUM.

I DON'T THINK THE MOMENTUM, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I THINK THE MOMENTUM'S GONNA CONTINUE GOING.

ONE IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET ON ANYWHERE.

I MEAN THAT'S JUST POINT BLANK HONEST.

UH, IT'S A MATTER OF YOU CAN'T GET ON ANYWHERE ELSE AND DO YOU WANNA DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO DIFFERENT MALLS OR TO DELAWARE SPRINGS? BASICALLY IT COMES DOWN TO UH, OR FOREST CREEK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE AWAY.

UM, I MEET A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM GOLF COURSE.

AND THAT'S GENERALLY THEY IS WHY THEY'RE HERE.

I, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO GET ON HERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, THE RATE IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO I THINK GREG'S DONE A GOOD JOB ON THAT AND, AND ATTRACT AND, AND PLUS THE FACT THAT LIKE HE SAID, I MEAN WHEN I FIRST MOVED OUT HERE, SO THAT'S FOUR YEARS AGO AND PROBABLY I'LL EVEN SAY A YEAR AFTER THAT, SOME OF THESE SCREENS, IT WASN'T THAT THERE WAS POTHOLES, THERE WAS NO GRASS.

YEAH.

I MEAN IT WAS DIRT.

AND THAT SHOWED .

WHEN YOU SAY WE GOT DOWN TO 7,000 ROUNDS.

YEAH, I MEAN IT WAS, IT WAS, I REMEMBER WHOLE EIGHT.

I LIVE ON HOLE NINE.

I REMEMBER A WHOLE EIGHTH GREEN HAD A PATCH OF GRASS THAT WAS MAYBE THIS, THIS BIG A ROUND AND THAT WAS THE GREEN WAS THAT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST GREENS WE HAVE BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIG HILL ONE.

AND IT WAS JUST LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS SAD TO SEE.

SO THEY HAVE CAME A LONG WAY BY, BY FAR.

UM, AND SO, UH, YEAH, WE HAVE DEFINITELY MOVED FORWARD, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WE CAN SIT DOWN, BRAINSTORM TO AND SEE WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS THERE.

BUT I DO THINK SOCIAL MEDIA'S WHERE GO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER BILL.

I, I DON'T GET, IT'S ALL ONLINE, SO I DON'T, WELL NO, SO I WOULDN'T GET THE NEWSLETTER.

SO I GUARANTEE THERE'S A, THERE'S PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ON MY AGE AND AND YOUNGER WHO PROBABLY DON'T THEY THE SAME ABOUT SO, WELL I DON'T REMEMBER OPTING, I DON'T REMEMBER OPTING IN OR OUT OF THAT.

I JUST GET IT.

I THINK I OPTED IN PAPERLESS AND THAT'S, OH, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? OH, I BELIEVE SO.

BUT GAGE BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, I THINK ONCE THIS, UH, CONTRACT FOR IRRIGATION, UH, IS, IS FINALIZED AND THE PROJECT TIMELINE IS FIRM AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING AUGUST 1ST, AUGUST 1ST, JUST THAT ALONE IS GONNA CREATE SOME BUZZ.

LIKE I'M JUST FINDING OUT, SAY LATE SUMMER, I DON'T PUT A DATE ON IT.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, BUT

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BUT THAT JUST THAT BUZZ AROUND THAT.

UH, JUST THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY WILD CLAIMS. JUST IT'S VERY FACTUAL.

WE GOT THIS BIG IRRIGATION PROJECT AND IT'S GONNA BE DONE IN BY LABOR DAY.

EVERYTHING'S GOING ON, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE, THE CITY, THE CITY NEEDS, WELL IT'S ALSO, YOU'RE NOT, IT'S NOT APPLES AND APPLES THERE EITHER.

ISN'T CITY OWNED, THE PROBE DOES A LOT OF STUFF ON HIS OWN AND YOU HAVE POAS OUT THERE, SO IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT TO A CITY COMPANY, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO HARD TO BUILD SOME BUZZ JUST AROUND THE PROJECT ALSO.

I TAKE ONE OF US GOING IN THERE AND TALKING ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, NONE OF US, I HAVEN DO THIS.

IT'S JUST A GOOD IDEA.

SO YEAH.

AND ACTUALLY I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK JASON WILL BRING TO THIS.

HE'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW, I DUNNO IF YOU HEAR OR NOT, BUT I'M SPEAKING FOR HIM.

THAT WAS ONE WHEN I HEARD HE WAS GETTING ON THIS COMMITTEE KIND OF.

SO I'M GLAD I KNOW MGA AND THE WGA MI MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATIONS ALL I'M HUNDRED PERCENT.

I MEAN, I'M NOT PRESIDENT OF MGA, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE BYLAWS.

I BE WRONG ON THAT.

I SAYS IT CAN'T BE ME.

I DUNNO WHY IT COULDN'T I DO, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA CONTROL.

NO, BUT YOU NO, BUT YOU MIGHT GET SOME PEOPLE FROM CEDAR PARK AT, FROM CEDAR PARK.

SO YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T REALLY TELL ABOUT NJ BUSINESS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING THIS HERE IS MJ HAS ALSO STRUGGLE.

ITS ITS ABILITY TO GET EVERY YOU PART OF THAT WEBSITE WHO GO TO THAT WEBSITE.

YOU DO MAYBE TO MAYBE SIGN UP FOR THE, FOR THE, THE, THE QUARTERLY MEETING WHERE IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY, YOU GO IN THERE AND SIGN UP.

BUT AS FAR AS GETTING THE NAME OUT AND WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, OR YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF EVENTS WE'RE HAVING OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS WHERE AGAIN, SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE WAY TO GO.

JUST GOT THERE AND GET THAT OR SOMETHING.

SO WE'LL PUT THAT DOWN.

AS SOON AS YOU CAN PUT THAT DOWN AS SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK.

THEY'LL VOLUNTEER A MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UM, AND AT LEAST EMAIL HIM, SEE IF HE POINT, HE MIGHT POINT US TO, UM, AMANDA OR UH, MAYBE JIM, AMANDA, MAYBE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO.