[Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee on February 11, 2026.]
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          THINK I THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY BRINGING AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE TABLE. I 
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MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SOMETIMES DIES AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET BY, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'VE DONE MORE THAN YOUR FAIR SHARE OF BRINGING TO THE TABLE. I HAVE TO TALK TO DAVID AND SEE WHAT'S WHAT'S POSSIBLE. AND I OBVIOUSLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WILL GET WORKED OUT. 
          I REALLY DO. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT SHE OFFERED WAS IT'S MAINTENANCE IN 
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RESPONSE OR IN REPLACEMENT OF MONETARY CONTRIBUTION. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE LEAGUE IS, IS OFFERING SWEAT EQUITY. SO WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THIS. IT'S IT'S A MODERATE STEP. 
          $36,000 WATER. STEP. AND THIS ISN'T MY EXPERTISE BUT ISN'T THERE WASN'T THERE SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST PASSED WITH THE THE OTHER TYPE OF WATER THAT COMES IN? EXCUSE MY LACK OF. 
          YES. I WASN'T THERE SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST PASSED. WOULD THAT HELP WITH THE SUNSET WATERING? OKAY. OKAY. THIS IS WHY THEY MAKE ME DO THE MONEY. WATERING BUDGET. QUESTIONNAIRE. 
          ARE WE WATERING? YOU'RE WATERING. THIS? WE CAN ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE TO HAVE 
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CONVERSATIONS. AND SO I WOULD JUST HARKEN BACK TO THE DISCUSSION LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH. SORRY. AND THAT IS TO SAY, THIS IS A DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY DOES COMES AT A COST. AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE FEEL THE PINCH WHEN THE ECONOMY EXPANDS CONTRACTS, YOU KNOW, WE EXPERIENCE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. SO NO, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS. WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN. I MEAN, OUR GOAL IS STILL TO PROVIDE THE THE BEST THAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF FIELDS. AND SO WE'VE JUST SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF TIME. AND THEN THE FROST WAS KIND ENOUGH TO COME AND TO FREEZE EVERYTHING. 
          YEAH. WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT JUST IT HAPPENS. AND SO THAT DELAYED SOME THINGS AND IT WILL DELAY, YOU KNOW, THE GREEN GRASS COMING BACK FOR A TIME. BUT NO, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LEAGUE. I'M USUALLY TALKING TO SOMEBODY WEEKLY. SO YEAH THIS IT WILL BE PART OF THE ONGOING CONVERSATION. I JUST HAD A QUICK I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATS ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE INVOLVED. YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. YEAH. AND I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN I, I DON'T THINK OF THIS AS A PENALTY. I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT JOINTLY. AND I THINK WE'RE ALL DOING THAT I THINK SO, BUT THERE COULD BE A PHASED APPROACH WHERE WE EVENTUALLY GET TO SOME KIND OF FEE PER FIELD USAGE, MAINLY BECAUSE IN MY MIND I SEE SWIMMING, I SEE SOCCER, I SEE OTHER ACTIVITIES IN THE AREA, AND IF ONE GROUP DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR USAGE AND ANOTHER ONE DOES, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM. SO WE JUST HAVE TO FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM. AND AND DAVID GOING THROUGH SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE FOR OTHER PARKS PLANS, I'VE SEEN IN SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND PLANS WHERE VOLUNTEERS AND VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT WERE PROVIDED AS IN-KIND DONATIONS TO THE CITY AND COULD ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, VOLUNTEER DONATIONS. AND WHAT IS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR IT AND GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR IT? SO I THINK SO. ANYWAY, JUST CONGRATS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS ANDREW SAID, I THINK WE CAN GET THERE. BUT I DON'T THINK WE EVER WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE SAY IT'S ZERO. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. MINE WILL BE QUICK. SO AS YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY AWARE, TOMORROW AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE OF POTENTIAL ACTION ITEMS UNDER CONSIDERATION ON THEIR AGENDA. SO THEY'RE GOING TO CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE TREE ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEIR TREE AND LANDSCAPING COMMITTEE HAVE MADE, BUT THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE HAVE RECOMMENDED. AND THEN ALSO DISCUSSING THAT FEE IN LIEU OF TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND TO DEFINE THE ALLOWED USES OF THOSE FEES. SO SOME OF THE THE DECREASE IN DIAMETER REQUIRING SOME KIND OF FEE PAID AND THEN CHANGING POCKET PARKS TO PARKS MORE GENERALLY. SO GENERALIZING USAGE OF THOSE FUNDS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW. AND I'M THANKFUL TO CHAIRPERSON AIRED AND THEN TO JORDAN, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, FOR GETTING THAT ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN SITTING SINCE LAST YEAR. BUT THEY THEY'RE MOVING ON IT NOW. SO IF YOU GUYS CAN MAKE IT TO THE MEETING TO COMMENT, COMMENT ON IT, THAT THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. 4:00 YES. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE PASS 
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AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025. CAN WE DO IT ALL AT ONCE? DECEMBER 10TH, 20TH DECEMBER 10TH, 2025 AND JANUARY 14TH, 2026. MOVE TO SECOND. HOW ABOUT DECEMBER? I DIDN'T HEAR DECEMBER, DID YOU? OKAY. I'M SORRY. YEAH, VERY MUCH SO. I'M SORRY. ANDREW, DO YOU WANT TO JUST DO AN EIS? BECAUSE ALL I GOT WAS NOBODY'S OPPOSED. BUT WHO'S IN FAVOR? I 
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DO HAVE A QUESTION. HAVE YOU THOUGHT OR. I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME MEMBERS THAT ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF LIONS CLUB. THEY'RE VERY GOOD. I'M A MEMBER AS WELL. I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE LIONS DO BEST IS FUNDRAISERS. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED OR THOUGHT ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE LIONS CLUB TO CREATE A FUNDRAISING EVENT? I MEAN, WITHIN THE LIONS? ARE THEY ARE THEY IN ARE THEY IN THE LIONS, THESE PEOPLE? WELL, THEN THEY SHOULD BRING IT UP. 
          I'M A MEMBER. THE WOMEN'S CLUB BECAUSE I HAVE ONE LAST WEEKEND. YES, YES. YEAH. AND SO YOU KNOW SHOOT ME BUT I. SO A LITTLE BIRDIE TOLD ME IS MAYBE GO TO MR. GATTI'S AS A. SALES PITCH TYPE DEAL AND DON'T GO TO DOMINO'S. ACTUALLY, JANICE HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD TO DATE IS REALLY FOCUSED ON. POINT OUT AND POINT. AND DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PLAN FOR OTHER LIKE OTHER BEAUTIFICATION? BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S MORE DEVELOPMENT. 
          PUTTING IN A SWING SET AND PUTTING IN A WALKWAY. IT'S NOT TRULY BEAUTIFICATION. YEAH. OH, 
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JUST BECAUSE I MEAN WHAT I'M WE'RE INVOLVED IN A PARKS PLAN AT THE MOMENT AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. SO, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY CROSSED PATHS, YOU KNOW, ON SOME OF THIS AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A JOINT EFFORT AND ANYTHING THAT'S DONE. YEAH. YEAH, IT'S BRAND, BRAND NEW. ONLY THAT I WILL BE OVER THERE WITH CLUB TOMORROW AFTERNOON DURING THEIR MEETING, JUST TO GET AN UPDATE AND. YEAH. SO YEAH, YEAH IT'S ACTUALLY THERE'S BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF DIALOG ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT CLPB 
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IS INVOLVED IN. THE OBVIOUSLY THE GRANT THAT JANICE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE ASSEMBLING INFORMATION FOR THAT. THE PROJECT THAT SHE JUST REFERENCED ON 1431. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN'T HAPPEN IS PART OF THE PROJECT, BECAUSE IT'S TEXDOT IS THERE WON'T BE ANY LETTERING ON IT. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'LL BE AN ENTRY SIGN, THERE'S NO LETTERING UNTIL WE PUT THAT ON THERE. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY WORKING ON THAT SO THAT AS THE PROJECT FINISHES UP ABOUT THE END OF THIS MONTH, THAT WE'LL BE READY TO GO IN AND PUT THE LAGO VISTA, TEXAS AND ALL THOSE DETAILS ON IT. YEAH. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE, THE PROJECT ABOUT POINT. AND THIS IS INDICATED WE'RE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF WHAT'S REQUIRED, JUST SO THAT ALL PARTIES UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR, THAT REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. AND OBVIOUSLY JANICE WILL BRING BACK TO THIS BODY, YOU KNOW, ANY DRAWING SPECIFICATIONS REGARDING THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS SEE IT AND ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL WILL EXPECT THAT OF YOU. BUT SO YEAH, SO WE'LL JUST KEEP WORKING THROUGH STUFF JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. DAVID. SO ESPECIALLY WITH DAWN THE DAWN CIRCLE POTENTIAL PARK THERE AND THERE'S SOME DRAWINGS ALREADY WHICH WE'VE SEEN. AND SO BUT YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S MOVED FORWARD. IT'S JUST LIKE AN ATTEMPT AT SOMETHING. SO THOSE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED AND WILL BE ENHANCED OR YOU KNOW BETWEEN WHAT. SO DAWN DRIVE WAS, WAS ONE OF THOSE PARCELS THAT AGAIN, THIS BODY IDENTIFIED A LONG TIME AGO FOR POTENTIAL PARK DEVELOPMENT, WHICH COMPLETELY MAKES SENSE IN THE A THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY. B IT IS, YOU KNOW, WONDERFULLY FLAT AND EASILY DEVELOPABLE IN THAT REGARD. AND SO WE HOPE TO BRING SOMETHING BEFORE COUNCIL, SORT OF AN ASPIRATIONAL KIND OF A THING SO THAT THEY CAN SEE. HOPEFULLY THAT'LL COME BEFORE COUNCIL IN MARCH, WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT CAN POTENTIALLY BE DONE THERE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE REALLY TERRIFIC. SO IT'S. SO AT THIS POINT THEY ARE IN VERY, VERY EARLY STAGES. IT'S REALLY CONCEPT STAGE AT THIS POINT. IN TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, WHAT'S DOABLE OUT THERE AND WHAT THE COST OF THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, SO THAT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO MOVE. IT'S A DENSE POPULATION ALL THE WAY TO AGAIN. AGAIN. I MEAN, YOU YOU GUYS IDENTIFIED THAT LOCATION? YES, FOR THE TWO REASONS. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S YOU KNOW, A GREAT AMOUNT OF DENSITY IS RIGHT THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. TO THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THAT POTENTIAL PARK AREA. FALL IN THE PO. I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THAT QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE. IS IT CONDO THERE IN THE PO ADJACENT TO IT? YEAH OKAY. OKAY. 
          YEAH, I WASN'T SURE THEY ARE. YEAH, THOSE ARE IN THE PO. I WASN'T SURE ABOUT THAT ONE CONDO UNIT THAT'S ON THE SAME SIDE AS DON CIRCLE. YEAH OKAY. OKAY. OPT OUT QUITE FRANKLY, BECAUSE IT'S A BARGAIN. I DO HAVE AN UPDATE. I WANTED TO UPDATE COMMITTEE SO THAT MAYBE WE COULD MOVE UP THE SCHEDULE FOR POTENTIAL PICKLEBALL, TENNIS COURT UPGRADES. WE HAVE. 
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GOLF BALLS ARE STILL COMING OVER THE TOP OF THE FENCE. THE NETTING. WE HAVE SURFACE CRACKS IN THE COURTS THAT ARE GETTING BIGGER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE RECENT COLD WEATHER OR MAYBE THE DROUGHT, BUT WE HAVE CRACKS BIG ENOUGH IN THE SURFACE THAT YOU CAN PUT YOUR FINGER IN THEM, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM, BECAUSE WHEN THE BALLS HIT THE CRACKS, IT REDIRECTS THE BALL. SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PLAY WHEN BALLS ARE GOING EVERYWHERE. LET'S SEE, THE NETS ON THE COURT ARE GOOD. THE LIGHTING IS GOOD. THANKS TO DAVID FOR GETTING ALL OF THOSE REPLACED. I THINK DAVID PROVIDED US SOME NEW PICKLEBALL ON THE COURTS. OH, OKAY. OKAY, WELL, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF BRAND NEW PICKLEBALL MARKED LV THAT ARE THE VERY NICE ONES TO. WE HAVE A WE'RE STILL GOING WITH THE NEW PLAYER BEGINNERS GROUP, WHICH IS CONTINUING ON THURSDAY NIGHTS. THE STEVE MARK THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ABOUT 12 PLAYERS. YEAH. AND I. MORE PEOPLE USING THE COURTS THAN EVER BEFORE AND I KNOW OKAY GOING BACK TO THE BALL'S COMING OVER THE TOP OF THE FENCE AND THE NETTING FROM THE DRIVING RANGE. AS WE WERE SITTING AT THE BUNKER THE OTHER DAY, HAVING OUR BRUNCH AFTER PICKLEBALL. I THINK WE COULD GET SOME NETS IN THERE FOR THE DRIVING RANGE. THAT WOULD NOT BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE LAKE. SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL BARRIER NETS ON THE DRIVING RANGE SO THAT THE BALLS WOULD COME OVER INTO THE COURTS. BUT I THINK ONE OF THE. OPPOSING VIEWS WAS THAT THE NETTING WOULD BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE LAKE FROM THE BUNKER BAR AND GRILL, AND I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD POSSIBLY REVISIT THAT IN THE MASTER PLAN OR THE UPGRADE OF PICKLEBALL COURTS. HONESTLY, THAT'S THAT'S THE SAFE. THAT'S THE SAFEST WAY TO PROTECT YOU. I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS BROUGHT UP BEFORE, WAS THAT THE THE NETS WOULD BLOCK THE VIEW FROM THE RESTAURANT OF THE LAKE, AND I THINK THAT WE COULD GET NETS UP THERE THAT WOULD NOT BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE LAKE. YEAH. I THINK THE BIGGEST. THE BIGGEST THING IS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DIGGING IN, RIGHT? THAT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH. WE'RE TALKING SIGNIFICANT COST. I THOUGHT WE HAD A NUMBER. I ACTUALLY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M EVER HEARING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL. I THINK THIS MIGHT. YEAH. THE WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE NET THAT IS IN PLACE AT ITS HEIGHT, AND LITERALLY IT'S JUST THE WIDTH OF THE COURTS THEMSELVES. THAT WAS 16,500 BUCKS. SO WE PROPOSE WHEN IT WAS NOW. WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TAKING THE NETS DOWN THE SIDE OF THE DRIVING RANGE AND KEEPING THE THE TOP, YOU KNOW, QUALITY OPEN. AND IT WAS AGREED ON BY GOVERNMENT WHO AGREED WITH THAT, THAT WE'D MOVE THE TOP TEE BOX. THEN WE WOULD THEY'D MOVE IT DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TEE BOX AND JUST REPAIR THE NETS, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CHEAPEST OPTION. BUT I THINK JUST BEFORE YOU ARRIVED. BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WE WORKED OUT MATHEMATICALLY WITH THE ANGLE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED AS HIGH A NET CLOSER YOU ARE TO WHERE THE TEEING OFF. AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S LESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT. I 
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THINK. DIDN'T THEY MOVE THE TEE BOXES BACK TO THE TOP? SOME BIG HITTERS OUT THERE. WHEN THEY. 
          HANG WITH ME, HANG WITH ME. DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD PAY FOR THAT? BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP IN THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS NEXT ON THE AGENDA, IS PROGRAMING, AND WE HAVE NONE OTHER THAN THE POOL AND PICKLEBALL COURSES AND LESSONS COULD FALL INTO PROGRAMING. AND THAT HAS VALUE. THAT REALLY DOES HAVE VALUE. YOU THINK OF GOLF PRO GOES OUT THERE EVERY DAY FOR FREE. NO WAY. SO HE'S CHARGING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR A HALF HOUR LESSON. 
          SO JUST GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT. YEAH. YEAH. NO NO ABSOLUTELY. THE THE SOFTWARE THAT WE CURRENTLY USE FOR REGISTRATIONS ACTUALLY CAN I'M SORRY FOR RESERVATIONS CAN ALSO BE THERE'S A REGISTRATION MODULE AS WELL. SO YOU KNOW IT'S ABSOLUTELY GOT THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT. AND IT COST A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY. BUT NO IT'S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY DO NEED TO LOOK AT IS AN EXPANSION OF PROGRAMING. BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, IS RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF A POOL AND AND PARKS AND POOL DEPARTMENT. WE'RE NOT REALLY MUCH BEYOND POOL IN TERMS OF RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. AND WE SHOULD BE. WELL, I SHOULD CLARIFY. THERE'S 
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NOT A LEAGUE PEOPLE CAN GO DOWN AND PLAY ANY TIME ON THE COURTS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT EVERYBODY PAY TO GO ON THE COURTS. THERE'S THERE'S NO LEAGUE. AND ANYBODY WITH A PICKLEBALL PADDLE CAN WALK ON AT ANY TIME. NO, ABSOLUTELY. THE SO YOU MAY RECALL THE DISCUSSION LAST WEEK, IT REALLY CENTERED AROUND EXCLUSIVE USES OR INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICES. AND RESERVATIONS SORT OF FALL WITHIN THAT CONTEXT. AND THAT ONCE YOU RESERVE A SPACE, IT'S EXCLUDED TO EVERYBODY ELSE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, A RESERVATION CAME IN TODAY FOR A YOUNG LADY WHO IS GOING TO HAVE A SEVEN HOUR PICKLEBALL PARTY AT THE COURT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO GROUND RULES FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S A COMPLETELY FREE USE AND SHOULD NOT BE, BECAUSE LITERALLY, WHOEVER IT IS WHO ATTENDS THAT PARTICULAR PARTY, THEY WILL HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE TO IT, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXCLUSION OF THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS FOR WHICH THERE ABSOLUTELY OUGHT TO BE A COST. AND AND WHERE THE PICKLEBALL TENNIS COURTS ARE CONCERNED, THERE ACTUALLY IS A CALENDAR OF USE. SO THEY'RE A SET ASIDE TIME FOR PICKLEBALL, SET ASIDE TIME FOR TENNIS, AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE KIND OF OPEN TIME THAT DON WAS JUST REFERRING TO. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE ENCROACHING IN THAT TIME. SO AGAIN, IT TRANSITIONS FROM PUBLIC USE TO RESERVED EXCLUSIVE USE. AND AGAIN, WHERE THAT HAPPENS, THEN THE COMMUNITY CAN'T GET THERE IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. DON. AND SO AGAIN, PROVISION NEEDS TO BE MADE FOR THAT. EITHER YOU CAN'T RESERVE DURING THOSE TIMES OR THERE'S A COST TO DO THAT. SO IS STEVE GOING TO BE TEACHING FOR FREE OR. YES, I PROMISE I WON'T READ THIS WORD FOR WORD. YOU ALL HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOU. THESE ARE THESE ARE THE NOTES THAT WE CREATED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ADDED OPINIONS OF MINE. THIS IS WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S FURTHER DISCUSSION. LET'S, LET'S SAY THAT KEEP IN MIND IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. SO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO CREATE A DOCUMENT THAT'S READABLE, PLAIN, SIMPLE LANGUAGE LAYS OUT A FUTURE FOR THE PARKS FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS. WHAT WE'VE SEEN, OTHER THAN CAROLYN'S OLD FORMER COMMUNITY. FORGIVE ME. 
          THANK YOU. HIGHLAND. THEY'RE JUST REALLY STALE. THEY HAVE THE STANDARD TEMPLATE. IT'S LIKE A LOT OF GOBBLEDYGOOK, THE CORPORATE SPEAK IN IT AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO WE DO WANT TO MAKE A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD DOCUMENT. MOST OF THEM ARE SUITED TOWARD URBAN ENVIRONMENTS. A LOT OF THEM DEAL WITH DISCRIMINATION, WHICH WE KIND OF AGREED THAT IT'S NOT REALLY A MAJOR ISSUE HERE IN LAGO VISTA, BUT LACK OF ACCESS TO PARKLANDS VIA, YOU KNOW, THE NOT QUITE MONOPOLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE VPOA HAS THE VAST MAJORITY OF PARKLANDS HERE. SO THE DOCUMENT STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE A TABLE OF CONTENTS, 11 CHAPTERS. TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON CHAPTER ONE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU. WHY A MASTER PLAN, A SINGLE PURPOSE, COHESIVE PLAN FOR THAT ENHANCES THE OVERALL VALUE OF OUR COMMUNITY. METHODOLOGY. YOU'LL SEE IN CHAPTER SIX WE DISCUSSED THAT, AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE OUR ROADMAP FOR THE FUTURE. WE STARTED WITH A MISSION STATEMENT. I BELIEVE DAVID PUT THIS ONE TOGETHER. WE WILL PROVIDE A SAFE, ACCESSIBLE AND ATTRACTIVE PARK FACILITY OR SAFE, ACCESSIBLE AND ATTRACTIVE PARKS, FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS FOR ALL OF LAGO VISTA. I DON'T 
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KNOW THAT I EVER SAW THE LBP MISSION STATEMENT IN AN EMAIL. YOU MAY HAVE JUST SENT THAT TO DATE. I DON'T RECALL SEEING. WAS IT OKAY? I DON'T I DON'T RECALL THAT. SO FORGIVE ME. SO THAT WOULD BE CHAPTER TWO. CHAPTER THREE IS OUR COMMUNITY PROFILE. WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE? YOU KNOW, BEAUTY RESORT LAKEFRONT. IT COULD BE A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY. IT'S ALSO A COMMUNITY OF GROWING FAMILIES. OUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE CLEARLY GETTING YOUNGER. WE HAVE TWO DISTINCT AMENITIES SEPARATE FROM THE CITY THE POA, THE ISD. AND ALSO PART OF THE COMMUNITY PROFILE IS PERCEPTION VERSUS REALITY. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POA IS. THEY THINK IT'S AN HOA AND IT'S NOT. YEAH, IT'S IT'S A TREMENDOUS NUMBER. 
          YOU KNOW, ALSO THERE'S SOME NEGATIVES. WE HAVE NARROWLY FOCUSED SERVICES. SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO EVERYBODY. AND WE HAVE VIRTUALLY NO DOWNTOWN OR CIVIC CENTER AND WE HAVE NO WALKABILITY. THERE'S NO PLACE IN THE CITY WHERE YOU CAN REALLY WALK. CHAPTER FOUR IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE INVENTORY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE. 
          YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE KNOW WE HAVE SUNSET VETERANS, LIBRARY FRIENDS ABOUT AND POINT OUR POOL, OUR TRAILS. THERE IS A POINT ABOUT THE TRAILS AT TURNBACK CANYON AND SUNSET PARK. 
          THE EFFLUENT THAT IS BEING DISTRIBUTED THERE IS POTENTIALLY THREATENING BOTH THE CURRENT USE AND FURTHER EXPANSION OF THE CEDAR BREAK TRAILS BECAUSE IT'S TYPE TWO. 
          SO RIGHT NOW IT IS IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE THE SPOUTS ARE THROWING TYPE TWO EFFLUENT ON THE TRAILS UP THERE. SO THEY MAY NOT BE USABLE UNTIL WE I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS. YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SNAFU. YOU KNOW, THIS STRETCH OF DAWN DRIVE SEEMS TO BE IN THE PLANS FOR AN OPEN GREEN SPACE AND PERHAPS SOME WALKABILITY FROM END TO END. SO THAT COULD BE OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. WE DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE POA. WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOME TRAILS, YOU KNOW, IF THE POA WOULD AGREE, WHERE THE CITY WOULD JOINT DO A JOINT VENTURE WITH. 
          THE. SPORTS GROUPS, YOU KNOW, CASE IN POINT, IKE'S, IKE'S GROUP, THE ISD ATHLETIC FACILITY USAGES, ALL SORTS OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, SPONSORSHIPS. CLUB IS A SPONSOR OR IS A PARTNER. AND YOU'RE REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, YOUR IMAGINATION CAN BE YOUR GUIDE AS FAR AS WHAT WE CAN DO. MAINTENANCE. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A PERSONNEL OF A DIRECTOR AND POTENTIALLY FOUR PEOPLE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE ON HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOT IT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? FORGIVE ME. I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN WHAT THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE. THERE'S SEVERAL LAWNMOWERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE ANYTHING FROM TRUCKS, MOWERS, GATORS. YEAH. JUST EVERYTHING THAT WE USE. SMALL EQUIPMENT, LARGE EQUIPMENT, ALL OF THAT REALLY SORT OF DICTATES THE DEPARTMENT'S CAPACITY. GOT IT. OUR BUDGET IS LIKE, NONEXISTENT AT THE MOMENT. AND AND PART OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO KEEP YOUR PULSE ON HOW WE'RE DOING AND HOW PEOPLE VIEW US. WE DO OBVIOUSLY HAVE KOLBE AS A MAINTENANCE PARTNER, AND THE LAGO VISTA YOUTH LEAGUES COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THIS IS THIS IS IMPORTANT. THE SURVEYS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE ONLY FROM THE HALF TOWN HALL AVENUES. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN REALLY HANG OUR HAT ON, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW STATISTICALLY REPRESENTATIVE THAT IS, BECAUSE THE SAME PEOPLE COULD SHOW UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND ESSENTIALLY STUFF THE BALLOT BOX. SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE CONSIDERING IN-PERSON EVENTS ONLINE OR THE BEST SEEMS TO BE AN ACTUAL TRUE PHONE POLL. 
          AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A CONSULTANT AND PROBABLY GOING TO BE COSTING. 
          CHAPTER SEVEN IS A NEEDS ASSESSMENT. EVERYBODY WANTS FACILITIES, PARKS, OPEN SPACE, TRAILS, COMMUNITY COHESION WHERE WE HAVE PLACES AND EVENTS TO HOST, WALKABILITY TO MENTIONED. THIS IS A A NEGATIVE, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE THERE'S THERE'S A THERE'S A LACK OF ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT'S PERCEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY. IT'S LIKE THIS STUFF COMES OVER US OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL IN PRIORITY, WHICH IS SAD. FUNDING SOURCES. IT'S REALLY A SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION. CITY COUNCIL JUST GIVES, YOU KNOW, REALLY HARDLY A SECOND THOUGHT TO PARKS. SO WE ALL YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE FORCED ALMOST TO LOOK ELSEWHERE. GENERAL LAKE ACCESS AND THIS IS MY COLLEGE AND WE DID DID TALK ABOUT THIS LIVE LIKE YOU'RE ON VACATION. THAT 
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IS A PIPE DREAM WITHOUT ANY ACCESS. REAL ACCESS FOR TO THE LAKE FOR ANY NON MEMBERS. OUR TRENDS WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO KEEP TRACK. DAVID SUGGESTED THE NATIONAL RECREATION REPORTS TEXAS RECREATION AND PARKS SOCIETY. ANY OTHER NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE. IT SEEMS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND BIKES BEING HOT, FRISBEE, GOLF, PICKLEBALL, SKATEBOARDING, BUT WHERE THE FUNDING COME TO ACCOMMODATE ANY THINGS, VISION AND RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? WHERE DO WE WANT TO GET, HOW DO WE GET THERE OPEN? YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL PARKS, OPEN SPACES, FACILITIES, TRAILS, ALL OF THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE. BUT AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A SOURCE OR HOW DO YOU FUND IT PROGRAM. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO YOU KNOW, FITNESS ACTIVITIES LESSONS, RECREATIONAL FACILITY WHICH PROBABLY WOULD REQUIRE A PROPER REC CENTER. BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. IT COULD BE A PICKLEBALL COURT. IT COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. AGAIN, WE GOT TO GO OUTSIDE FOR SPONSORSHIP. THAT'S TEN CHAPTER TEN FOR FUNDING. YOU KNOW, ANY FOUNDATIONS, DONATIONS, GRANTS THAT WE CAN FIND THIS KIND OF A BONDS. THIS DOVETAILS WITH MAYOR SAHM'S. DID EVERYBODY SEE SHANE SAHM'S POST ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH THIS CHARTER REVIEW? I'M GOING TO GET SIDETRACKED HERE JUST FOR A MOMENT. ALL RIGHT. SO HE HAS PROPOSED IN THE NEW CHARTER, WHICH I'M PART OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT WE PUT INTO THE CHARTER, THE NEW CHARTER A SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT COUNCIL CAN AND CAN'T DO IN TERMS OF SPENDING ABOUT ABOUT 80% OF OUR FUNDING OVER THE LAST X NUMBER OF YEARS, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 20 YEARS ARE IN THE FORM OF CEOS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A CEO IS, IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION, AND IT REQUIRES NO VOTER APPROVAL. SO 80% OF OUR DEBT IS IN THE FORM OF NO VOTER APPROVED C-O BONDS. SO HIS PROPOSAL IS TO MAKE C-O BONDS FORCED TO BE PUT IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS FOR VOTER APPROVAL. AND WE ARE STRONGLY CONSIDERING THAT. AND IT MAY VERY WELL END UP IN THE IN THE FINAL DRAFT. IMPACT FEES. YOU KNOW, DAVID, REFRESH MY MEMORY ON IMPACT FEES. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S TRUE. LIKE DEVELOPERS OR. YEAH. 
          SO TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE LEGALLY IN TEXAS YOU CAN'T COLLECT IMPACT FEES. BUT IT BASICALLY THEY'RE REFERRED TO AS DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES. BUT IN OUR CASE PARKLAND DEDICATIONS FEE AND LOU PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES, THOSE ARE ALL IN THAT VEIN. GREAT THANKS. MITIGATION THE TREE MITIGATION FEES. WE'RE STILL WAITING AT MY COMMENT. PERSONAL COMMENT. WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. SO THAT'S GOOD. 
          AND PARKLAND DEDICATION. SO OUR GOALS OBJECTIVES, ACTION PLAN, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD WORKING MODEL THAT I THINK WE ALL REALLY LIKE IS HIGHLAND VILLAGE. IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL CORPORATE SPEAK. WHAT DO WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE WHO ASSISTS. IT'S GOT TO BE TIMELY. AND WE HAVE TO HAVE GOALS THAT ARE SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE, ACHIEVABLE, RELEVANT AND TIME BASED. SO THAT'S OUR FIRST MEETING IN A NUTSHELL. YEAH. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD ON TO WHAT MARK HAS PUT TOGETHER HERE. AND WE HAD A GOOD MEETING THAT FIRST TIME. THE THE PLANS THAT DAVID SENT. AND I SENT HIGHLAND VILLAGES AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I THINK ANDREW SENT THE MISSION STATEMENT. HE'S GOT THE POA. WE HAVE A GOOD COLLECTION OF GOOD SOLID DATA AND TRENDS AND THINGS WE CAN REALLY LEAN INTO. I THINK SO, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S STARTING TO GEL HERE. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE GOT, I THINK, A GOOD, GOOD BASE TO WORK FROM. I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL SOME GOOD STUFF OUT OF THESE AND HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY GET SOMETHING GOOD OUT OF IT. THE DISAPPOINTING PART WAS AFTER SEEING THE DRIPPING SPRINGS PLAN THAT HALF DID. LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF THE ONE WE GOT. YEAH. YOU KNOW SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THERE HAD TO BE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT ANYWAY IT'S IT WAS NICE TO SEE THAT A BETTER PRODUCT THERE YOU KNOW. SO ANYWAY WE'LL GET THERE. SO GOOD JOB MARK. YEAH LET ME JUST ADD I'M IMPRESSED. YEAH. THIS REALLY COVERS EVERYTHING INCLUDING PROGRAMING WHICH YOU ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP FRONT AND CENTER NOW TOO. SO I LOVE THIS. 
          YEAH EXACTLY. YEP. YEAH I BET I WOULD JUST I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, BE VISIONARY BECAUSE 
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I THINK WITH THIS IS INTEGRATION INTO THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S GONE FROM SORT OF A DISAPPOINTING, YOU KNOW, RESULT TO SUDDENLY EVERYONE'S VERY MOTIVATED TO GET IT COMPLETED. AND SO THIS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO, I THINK HAVE A REAL IMPACT NOW VERSUS SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAD PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE PAST. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING MORE TRACTION NOW. SO I'M HOPEFUL. AND CERTAINLY I'M AN ADVOCATE ON CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND A COUPLE OTHER COUNCILORS ARE AS WELL, SUCH AS COUNCILOR PRINCE, COUNCILOR OWEN. SO YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME GOOD TRACTION. THIS WORK PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE A BIG, BIG PART OF THAT, ALONG WITH DAVID'S LEADERSHIP AS WELL. SO. YEAH, THROUGH DAVID IN THERE, I COULDN'T COULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT HIM. HE JUST. YEAH. HOW DID YOU DO THAT AND NOT GET FIRED. NO ONE ELSE WANTED THE JOB. THE BUDGET. WHAT IS THE. AND FRANKLY, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT CHAPTER BY CHAPTER BY CHAPTER. SO THESE THESE THIS WAS A BASICALLY A STORYBOARD OUTLINE. AND YOU KNOW, SO WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT CHAPTERS AND MAYBE SOME LIGHT DISCUSSION ON EACH, EACH ONE. BUT YEAH BUDGET'S GOING TO COME LATER. YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING FROM LOW HANGING FRUIT FRUIT TO NOT AS LOW HANGING FRUIT IS WHAT WE'RE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR. 
          STRATEGICALLY. RIGHT. THAT'LL BE BIGGER DOLLARS OVER THE COURSE OF 5 TO 10 YEARS OR WHATEVER TIME FRAME. BUT THEN THINK TACTICALLY LIKE PRIORITIZATION LIKE STEP BY STEP. HOW WOULD WE GET THERE, ACHIEVE THE VISION. AND IT'S BEEN SO ITERATIVE IN THE PAST LIKE EKING OUT LITTLE WINS. BUT NOW I THINK WITH SOME MOMENTUM AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND LOOKING AT GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND DONATIONS TO A FOUNDATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT CAN GET SOME MOMENTUM GOING ON. THE MONEY THAT'S NEEDED. YEAH. AND YOU MAY WANT TO SPEAK WITH COUNCILOR OWEN BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON A COMMUNITY CENTER AND ACTUAL GRANT FUNDING FOR IT OR COMBINATION OF GRANTS. SO SHE'D BE A GREAT RESOURCE FOR YOU GUYS TO TALK TO, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS KIND OF TIED COMMUNITY CENTER INTO EXPANSION BEHIND THE LIBRARY AND LEVERAGING THAT AREA BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND STUFF. SO DEFINITELY SPEAK WITH HER BECAUSE SHE'S SHE'S ON THAT. THE THE REALITY. AND THIS IS 
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WHAT I PUT ACTUALLY WHAT WE PUT FORWARD AS A SUBCOMMITTEE WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE ASPIRATIONAL BUT CAN THE PIPE DREAMS. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE LISTED THERE UNDER FUNDING. 
          THERE ARE EIGHT ITEMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED. AND THAT LIST WILL HAVE TO GROW OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES. IN FACT, I JUST WROTE DOWN ONE THAT'S NOT LISTED THERE, AND THAT IS PROGRAM FEES AS A SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT YOU CAN THEN REINVEST IN THINGS. RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY PROGRAM FEES WE GENERATE ARE AT THE POOL, MOSTLY POOL PASSES. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WE DON'T GET A TON OF USE AT OUR POOL. SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT NEED TO CONSIDER IS WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE NOT DOING THAT WE'RE FAILING TO DRAW MUCH MORE OF THE COMMUNITY TO USE THAT POOL SO AS TO GENERATE A DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL REVENUES, SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T MENTION PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE IN THE MARCH NEWSLETTER THAT WILL BE GOING OUT IS A ONE QUESTION SURVEY, AND THAT IS, DO YOU THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO BE OFFERING A SWIM INSTRUCTION? WE'RE A LAKE COMMUNITY. IT SEEMS TO ME SOMEWHAT IRRESPONSIBLE NOT TO BE OFFERING SWIM INSTRUCTION OR TO ASSUME THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING ENOUGH OF THAT AT HOME. DON'T KNOW. SO THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW IS TO ASK THE QUESTION, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT AT THE SAME TIME MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THE BUDGET ISN'T GOING TO GROW. I WON'T GET MORE MONEY TO OPERATE THE POOL THIS COMING SUMMER. THE BUDGET SET. I KNOW WHAT I'VE GOT. SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF BEING TRANSPARENT IS ASKING WHEN I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, I'M ALSO SAYING ARE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH DOING THAT? IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT IT WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HOURS FOR RECREATION SWIM. SO THERE WOULD BE A COST, A DIRECT COST FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT THE BALANCE IS YOU GET TWO SETS OF PROGRAMING RATHER THAN JUST ONE. AND YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE ASKING THE COMMUNITY WHAT IS YOUR PRIORITY. AND WE FIND THAT OUT. SO IT'S SO IT'S PART OF THAT. DAWN IS KIND OF GETTING EVERY PENNY OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR YOU POSSIBLY CAN. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS REFERENCED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE MANAGED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH JUST STARTED IN OCTOBER. THE DEPARTMENT GOT $85,000 IN WHAT MOST PEOPLE REFER TO AS CAPITAL BUDGET FUNDING, AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE ONE PROJECT THAT THE CANOPIES OVER AT SUNSET. WELL, WE JUST LOOKED AROUND TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE PRICE AND AS A RESULT, SAVED $38,000. THAT'S HOW WE DID THE LIGHTING PROJECT AT THE BALL FIELDS. IT'S HOW WE DID THE LIGHTING PROJECT OVER AT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND SO YEAH, BUDGETS ARE WORKING TOOL. AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN YOU GET OUT OF EVERY POSSIBLE PENNY YOU GET? SO THAT'S PART OF IT. BUT THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GO SO FAR. YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT GRANTS. I SUBMITTED A GRANT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO TO LCRA, ASKING FOR FUNDING TO PUT SOLAR LIGHTING AT THE ENTRY AND ALONG THE ENTRY ROAD INTO SUNSET PARK AND THEN A COUPLE OF PARKING LOT. IF WE GET IT, GREAT. THAT'S $50,000 THAT DIDN'T COME OUT OF OUR POCKET, BUT $11,000 HAS TO COME OUT OF OUR POCKET. BUT THERE AREN'T A LOT OF THOSE GRANTS, SO WE CAN'T RELY ON GRANTS. SO THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GO SO FAR. DONATIONS, SPONSORSHIP, ALL OF THAT COUNTS FOR SOMETHING. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RECREATION FACILITY, WE DON'T HAVE A RECREATION CENTER, BUT WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE SCHOOLS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, AND SO WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM TO AT LEAST MAYBE OFFER SOME INSTRUCTIONAL CLASSES THAT WILL GENERATE SOME REVENUE. SO AGAIN, IT'S WHAT DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU CAN EXPAND THE USE. AND HOPEFULLY AS A RESULT OF THAT ALSO EXPAND THE DOLLARS. IT'S TAKING A LOOK AT THE THINGS YOU'RE DOING AND MAKING SURE 
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THAT AGAIN WE'RE INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICES ARE CONCERNED. THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IN MY VIEW IS WE HAVE FOR YEARS APPARENTLY OFFERED A WATER AEROBICS PROGRAM AT THE POOL. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT IS INCREDIBLY WELL ATTENDED AND EVERY PERSON WHO ATTENDS PAYS NOTHING. WHY IS THAT? NOWHERE ELSE? DO YOU GET THAT? THAT'S AN INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICE. THAT MONEY SHOULD NOT COME OUT OF THE CITY'S COFFERS. IF YOU COME BECAUSE YOU WANT TO LEARN WATER, YOU WANT TO DO EXERCISE OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU SHOULD PAY FOR THAT SERVICE BECAUSE IT IS AN INDIVIDUALIZED SERVICE. AND IF YOU GO ANYWHERE ELSE, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO WEIGHT WATCHERS, THAT COSTS MONEY. YOU GO TO THE LOCAL GYM THAT COSTS MONEY. WHY IS IT NOT COSTING MONEY TO COME TO THE CITY'S POOL AND TAKE WATER AEROBICS CLASS? THAT JUST SHOULDN'T BE. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE IDEA OF EXCLUSIVE USES OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, WHEN YOU EXCLUDE THE BROADER PUBLIC, THERE SHOULD BE A COST FOR DOING THAT, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE BORNE ON THE BACKS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE JUST SOME CONSIDERATIONS AND ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. SO IT'S STRETCH EVERY DOLLAR. IT'S LOOK AT EVERY POSSIBLE RESOURCE. AND THAT INCLUDES AGAIN LVDS DOES THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT. JUST LOOK TO EXPAND. AND FIND ANY PENNY ANY DIME IN COLOR WOULD. SO I ACTUALLY STARTED TO SAY LIKE, RIGHT AS I WAS, I WAS SITTING HERE ON THE BUTTON WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE SWIMMING LESSONS, BECAUSE MY NOW 26 YEAR OLD, YOU KNOW, 18, 19 YEARS AGO, TOOK SWIMMING LESSONS AND WAS PART OF A SWIM TEAM. AND SO THAT WAS I WAS GOING TO BRING UP THAT USED TO EXIST. BUT I GUESS IT IT JUST DISAPPEARED. WHOEVER HEADED THAT UP DECIDED NOT TO DO IT. SO NO, I TOTALLY AGREE. TOTALLY AGREE. DAVID, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I WAS TRYING TO RECALL. IS THERE A IS THE FOUR B SALES TAX ALREADY TAKEN HERE IN LAGO VISTA? THE FOUR B SALES TAX. IS THERE ONE IN LAGO VISTA. HAS THAT ALREADY BEEN USED, ALREADY MAXED OUT AS A FUNDING A4B SALES TAX. AND DO WE HAVE IS DOES THAT EXIST HERE. YEAH. SO SO THE STATE. SO THE MAXIMUM AS I UNDERSTAND IT THAT YOU THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN CHARGE IS 8.5%. THE STATE ALREADY CHARGES 6.5%. SO THE CITY CAN GO UP 2%. BEYOND THAT WE CURRENTLY DO. AND HALF OF THAT AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO CAPMETRO FOR OUR AGREEMENT. SO THEY GET HALF OF WHAT IS COLLECTED THERE. SO THE CITY LITERALLY COVERS GETS 1% OF SALES TAX THAT ACTUALLY COMES BACK LOCALLY. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND AND I'M CONVINCED THAT THE CITY I THINK CEDAR PARK FIGURED OUT HOW TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN POINT TO POINT TRANSPORT ON THEIR OWN. 
          SO I KNOW I KNOW THEY'RE BIGGER, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW A MILLION IS IT $1 MILLION THAT, THAT THAT ROUGHLY THAT GOES TO CABINET. TRUE. BELIEVE SO. YEAH, I THINK WE HAD WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE GET OUT OF THE CONTRACT WITH CAPMETRO SOME YEARS AGO AND JUST DIDN'T DO IT OR THE THAT WAS ON I REMEMBER IT WAS ON A VOTER DECIDED TO KEEP IT KIND OF THING. THAT WAS PROBABLY OUR BEST CHANCE TO GET OUT OF IT, BECAUSE IT'S A REAL TUGGED ON HEARTSTRINGS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, NEED IT. THE NEED IS THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR $1 MILLION, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE THE PEOPLE THAT JUST PROBABLY LIKE. COULD BE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU COULD YOU COULD BUY A FLEET. YOU COULD, YOU COULD MAYBE DO LIKE A, YOU KNOW, OUTSOURCE IT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR $1 MILLION. I, I THINK AT THE TIME THEY WERE FLOATING NUMBERS THAT IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 100 AND $200 PER RIDE PER PERSON BECAUSE ONLY TWO. 
          YEAH, THERE'S ONLY LIKE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS ALL DAY. YEAH. YEAH. SO THE NEED, YOU KNOW, THE NEED IS CLEARLY THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS PER RIDE OR PER PER RIDE. MAYBE IT GOES OFF OKAY. THIS IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY 
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RELATED TO THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO YOU ARE SEEING THIS PRESENTATION FIRST. IT WILL ALSO GO TO PNC TOMORROW EVENING. THE. SO WELL LET'S JUST DIVE IN. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD NEWS FOR US. ALL RIGHT. SO PARKLAND DEDICATION MARK IN FACT JUST REFERENCED THIS AS ONE OF THE FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS BUILT INTO HOW CITIES PAY FOR THEIR OPERATIONS. SO CURRENTLY THE CITY'S ORDINANCE IS THAT WHEN YOU GET A DEVELOPER IN DOING SUBDIVISIONS AND THEY'RE BUILDING RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, THAT THEY'RE CHARGED, WELL, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ONE ACRE OF PARKLAND FOR EVERY 30 DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE DEVELOPED, OR THEY CAN PAY THE CITY $1,050 AS AN IN LIEU FEE OF THAT. SO RATHER THAN GIVING AN ACRE OF PARKLAND FOR THOSE 30 DWELLING UNITS, THEY WOULD LITERALLY GIVE 30 TIMES $1,050. SO THAT'S THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AS IT'S WRITTEN NOW. COUNCIL DIRECTION BACK IN JULY WAS FOR US TO REVISIT THE ISSUE OF THE ORDINANCE. THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT PERHAPS WE WEREN'T GETTING EVERYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD. AND SO THEY DIRECTED THERE WERE THERE WERE TWO POINTS OF DIRECTION. 
          THE FIRST IS FOR P AND Z TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE AND THEN TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION. WELL, DAVID, CAN I ASK, DO YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC? YOU HAVE TO BE 
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SPECIFIC TO THESE CALCULATIONS IN YOUR ORDINANCES AND WHAT YOU'RE COLLECTING. IS THERE ANY 
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KIND OF FUDGE FACTOR, WIGGLE ROOM, ANYTHING? CAN I ASK TWO. IS THAT SO YOU'RE SHOWING IS 
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YOU CAN COMBINE THE VALUE AND A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE. YOU CAN ACTUALLY 
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COMBINE BOTH. THEY'RE NOT OKAY. AND CAN I ADD TO THAT DAVID YOU'RE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
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AND THE OTHER POINT I ALWAYS MAKE IS THAT THE MOST THE POA PROPERTIES AREN'T SUITABLE FOR 
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BALL FIELDS. RIGHT. AND A LOT OF THE OTHER AMENITIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A NONSTARTER TO BEGIN WITH. WE'VE GOT TO BUILD AND DEVELOP THOSE TYPES OF AMENITIES IN OTHER AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE POA SHOULD SELL ONE OF THEIR PARKS TO THE CITY? I'M SAYING THEY SHOULD DONATE ALL 350 ACRES. 
          BUT I'VE I'VE BEEN HERE 19 YEARS AND I'VE HEARD THAT 19 TIMES EVERY YEAR. SO YEAH, TURN BACK DONATED ACREAGE ADJACENT TO THE BARK PARK, THE PARK THERE. SO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COVE, THAT PORTION OF THERE, I FORGET HOW MANY ACRES IT IS. IT'S NOT NOT A HUGE AMOUNT, 17 OR 18 ACRES, I THINK. AND I BELIEVE ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THAT'S TO REMAIN PRIMITIVE, LIKE NO DEVELOPMENT ON IT, BUT TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH MAKES SENSE, I GUESS. YOU KNOW, IT'S LAKESIDE, BUT IT'S A NICE LITTLE AREA THERE. IT'S REALLY PRETTY WOODS AND STUFF. FIREFLY COVE THERE. PHASE ONE. THEY PAID A FEE IN LIEU OF AND THAT'S BEEN A POINT OF CONTENTION. AND CHAIRPERSON AIRD OF PNC HAS BEEN LIKE A DOG WITH A BONE ON IT BECAUSE IT WAS CLARIFIED THAT IF IT WAS PHASE ONE WAS ITS OWN THING AND THEY WERE PAYING $63,000 FEE IN LIEU BASED ON THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS, AND THAT MONEY SHOULD HAVE GONE INTO THE PARKS FUND FOR DAVID TO BE USING FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS. AND IT'S BEEN SITTING IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT. SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT AND CLARIFY THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW. RIGHT NOW IT'S WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, CHARLES. HE JUST WANTS TO GET WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ONE MORE TIME JUST TO MAKE SURE. OH, GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. 
          YES, WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. BUT THEN MY UNDERSTANDING IS SUBSEQUENT PHASES OF FIREFLY COVE. THE PLAN IS FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY BUILD OUT PARKS AND AMENITIES, INCLUDING LAKESIDE ACCESS, POTENTIALLY PICKLEBALL COURTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO SUBSEQUENT PHASES, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BUILD SOME AMENITIES THAT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO SO THE OBVIOUSLY 
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THE CHALLENGE THERE IS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T REPEAT THE MISTAKES UP TO SARAH, WHERE IT'S VERY CLEAR TO PEOPLE BUYING INTO FIREFLY COVE THAT THESE ARE GOING TO BE PUBLIC AMENITIES, NOT PRIVATE, THAT THE HOA SUPPORTING BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. SO WE JUST WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO NOT REPEAT THAT MISTAKE AND BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW THAT'S MARKETED AND PRESENTED TO PEOPLE AND HOW IT'S HANDLED. BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL PLAN RIGHT NOW ANYWAYS. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A REALLY PRETTY PARK. I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOU'RE NOT. I DON'T THINK THE CITY INTENDED TO SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A MARINE IN THERE OR SOME OTHER KIND OF AMENITIES LIKE THAT. THERE'S AN OLD BOAT RAMP THERE WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE FIXED, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW USABLE IT IS ANYMORE. YEAH, RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S PRETTY. I MEAN, WE GO WALKING THERE, THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME, OR IT USED TO BE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO ANYMORE, BUT YEAH, REALLY PRETTY. AND YOU GET, YOU KNOW, FURTHER UP THERE'S KIND OF MORE OF A BLUFF OVER THE LAKE WHICH THAT'LL BE MORE DEVELOPED TERRITORY. BUT IT'S STILL, I THINK PROVIDES SOME GOOD TRAIL OPPORTUNITIES AND SOME REAL PRETTY AREA THERE. YEAH, I'M NOT UP ON IT, BUT I THINK IF THE I DON'T KNOW, I, I CAN'T SAY I'VE HEARD THE DEVELOPER MAY SELL TO SOMEONE ELSE. YEAH. OR ARE THEY WAITING. THE SCUTTLEBUTT HAS BEEN THEY'RE WAITING TO SEE IF MAYBE THEY CAN COME BACK AND TRY TO RENEGOTIATE BETTER TERMS. IT'S UP IN THE AIR NOW, SO I'M NOT A GOOD SOURCE FOR THAT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.