THANKS, JASON. YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE, SIR. ALL RIGHT. YOU CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. ALL IS
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HERE EXCEPT FOR OUR SECRETARY, SUSIE. SHE IS M.I.A. WE'LL START OFF WITH OUR CITIZEN COMMENTS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CITIZENS SIGN UP TO SPEAK, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO. WE'LL FLIP IT.[III. STAFF AND COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]
WE'LL GO TO CITY STAFF PERSON'S. YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE. THANK YOU. I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT I WILL DO THAT. I MEAN, MY STORY IS TRUE. HE'S GOT A STICK. HE'S GOT TO STAY OUT. YOU KNOW, SHE'S JUST. SHE JUST GOT INTO TOWN CONVERSATIONS. WELL, JESS HAS TO STAY IN HERE WITH US NO MATTER WHAT. SO. SO, GREG, ANY YOUR YOUR REPORTS. OKAY, HERE WE ARE AGAIN. THE START OF SPRING. IT'S BEEN CRAZY WEATHER. FEBRUARY WAS WHAT I THINK THE SECOND WARMEST EVER RECORDED. IN MARCH. WE GOT DOWN TO 33 ONE MORNING AND UP TO 94 AND SET A RECORD IN HEAT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE FIRST WEEK IN TD RAIN THE WHOLE FIRST WEEK FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. AND THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE GOT RAIN, WHICH WAS ONE DAY ON A SATURDAY. NONE OF THE OTHER DAYS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WEATHER DICTATES THE GOLF BUSINESS QUITE A BIT. SO BOOKINGS WERE DOWN THROUGH THAT FIRST WEEK. I WAS DOWN 30% AND THEN IT GOT BETTER SPRING BREAK LAST WEEK. SO WE HAD, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR TEENAGERS AND YOUR KIDS OUT WITH PARENTS AND SO FORTH. HAD A GREAT WEEK LAST WEEK. WEATHER WAS GREAT. THE SUNDAY PRIOR, WHICH WAS THE 15TH. WE DID THE MOST ROUNDS ON THE SUNDAY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, WHICH WAS 192. SO ALMOST 200 ROUNDS ON A SUNDAY. TWO THREE YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO, TWO YEARS AGO. IF WE DID, IF WE EVEN SNIFFED A HUNDRED, WE WERE DOING GREAT. BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN ON SUNDAY. THAT HAPPENED. WE DO 80 ROUNDS ON A SATURDAY, SO THINGS ARE DEFINITELY STILL LOOKING BRIGHTER. LAST WEEK THROUGH SUNDAY. TODAY'S TUESDAY WE BASICALLY GOT EVENING ROUNDS PLAYED AND UP IN REVENUE, SO WE'RE CONTINUING OUR STREAK OF EITHER BEING A LITTLE UP OR QUITE A BIT UP EVERY MONTH FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR'S, WHICH WAS THE BEST IN QUITE A WHILE. SO YOU'RE SAYING MARCH 2025 AND 2026 ABOUT EVEN? WELL, WE'RE BACK TO EVEN, BUT I'M UP IN REVENUE. WE'RE EVENING ROUNDS AND WE'RE UP IN REVENUE. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU FISCAL YEAR TO DATE HERE. SO YOU'LL HAVE BETTER NUMBERS. YOUR FISCAL YEAR TO DATE. I'M 15% UP IN ROUNDS AND I'M 33% UP IN REVENUE. NOI NET OPERATING INCOME AFTER EXPENSES AND SO FORTH. I'M SITTING AT ABOUT 140 RIGHT NOW IN THE RED. KEEP IN MIND, LAST YEAR WAS THE BEST YEAR IN QUITE A WHILE, WHICH WAS ABOUT 350 IN THE ROAD. SO I'M HALF THE YEAR THROUGH IT. SIX MONTHS. THE NEXT SIX MONTHS WILL BE CRITICAL BECAUSE IT CAN GO ONE OF THREE WAYS. IT CAN STAY PRETTY FLAT. IT CAN GO DOWN IF WE HAVE EXTREME WEATHER, WHICH I DON'T REALLY EXPECT BEING RAIN. IF WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE LOSE GREENS, THERE'S ONE GIVEN THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW, WHICH IS ALL THE THE GREEN GRASS YOU'RE SEEING IN THE FAIRWAYS AND ROUGHS, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF SOME BLUE GRASS, SOME RYE GRASS, AND POA ANNA, WHICH IS A WEED. BUT PEBBLE BEACH, THAT'S WHAT THEY PUT ON AND PLAY ON. WE'RE TEXAS, NOT PEBBLE BEACH. THAT'S ALL GOING TO DIE OUT AND GO DORMANT UNTIL NEXT OCTOBER NOVEMBER. SO IF WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY RAIN, I'M SEEING EARLY APRIL, THE END OF NEXT WEEK, MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. WE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT CHANGING AND MAY GET SOME[00:05:01]
COMING IN, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT. BUT THEN WHEN THAT BERMUDA WAKES UP AND THE FAIRWAY IN ROUGHS, IT'S. IT'S GOING TO BE DISCOLORED AND BROWNISH WITHOUT ANY WATER. SO I NEED NEED SOME RAIN. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY AN UNKNOWN, BUT I STILL BASED ON PAST HISTORY, THE PAST FEW YEARS, I STILL FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT AND I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD CONTINUE UNLESS THAT WERE TO HAPPEN ON THE GREENS TO BE AS GOOD OR BETTER MONTH TO MONTH THAN LAST YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, I MEAN, I WAS FORECASTING COMING IN AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, 5% BETTER IN REVENUES AND BELOW 300 AND EXPENDITURES IN THE RED. AND I'M STILL, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS, SITTING AT 140, WE MAY STAY THAT WE MAY GET BETTER, BUT THERE'S NO REASON WE SHOULDN'T COME IN UNDER LAST YEAR. WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO UPDATE ON IRRIGATION. NO WORSE THAN ME. THAT'S MY LIFE RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO READ A LITTLE SOMETHING BECAUSE VICTOR, WHO IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER AND ENGINEER FOR THE CITY PROJECT ENGINEER, HE AND I ARE THE ONES THAT CONVERSE ON THIS AS OFTEN AS THINGS CHANGE. SO. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE THIS MORNING. HI, VICTOR.HAVE A MEETING THIS EVENING. SEE, I DO THINK OF YOU JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF YOU'VE RECEIVED AN UPDATE FROM DIAMOND GOFF ABOUT START DATE YET. SO IN THE BEGINNING YOU HEARD FROM ME. I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT IT'LL START BETWEEN 1ST OF MARCH AND APRIL 1ST. OKAY. WITH NOTHING HAPPENING, THINGS HAPPEN. UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S WORLD AND THE GOLF BUSINESS, WHICH IS BUSIER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. SO HERE'S MY RESPONSE, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT I ALREADY KIND OF KNEW BECAUSE THE LAST REPORT WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE WERE 6 TO 8 WEEKS OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE WAITING ON PIPE. I MAY HAVE MENTIONED THAT AT THE END OF FEBRUARY. NOT SURE. I'M STILL WAITING ON CONFIRM DELIVERY SCHEDULE FROM DIAMOND GOFF, MAINLY FOR THE MAINLINE PIPE. THAT'S THE BIG TEN INCH PIPE.
THEY HADN'T RECEIVED ALL THE PIECES TO MOBILIZE AND GET TO HEAR. LAST UPDATE WAS ABOUT A 6 TO 8 WEEK LEAD TIME, BUT THAT'S BEEN A MONTH. I'VE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A FIRM SCHEDULE AND PUSH FOR AN EARLIER START. I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED AS SOON AS I GET SOMETHING CONFIRMED. SO THAT IS THAT. THANK YOU. SO MAYBE BEFORE MAY 1ST. FYI, GEORGE GOT A DELIVERY TODAY AT THE MAINTENANCE BARN FOR SOME IRRIGATION PARTS FOR THE PROJECT. HOPEFULLY BEFORE MAY 1ST, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE LATEST. CAN YOU SEND ME THE SHIPPING LABEL SO I CAN LET THEM KNOW? SO. SO THAT'S THE LATEST. IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT OR SAID EXCEPT FOR TIMELINE. YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING BEST CASE FINISHED IN AUGUST. NOW I'M PRAYING FOR BEST CASE BEING FINISHED IN SEPTEMBER. WORST CASE OCTOBER. WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE THAT'S FALL WHEN WE'LL START COOLING OFF AGAIN. AND LIKE I'VE SAID ALL ALONG, I FORESEE THE REBIRTH AND THE MARKETING AND THE WORD GETTING OUT UP TO THE GOLFING PUBLIC AND RESIDENTS THAT WHEN WE START THE GROWING SEASON, WHICH IN GOLF IS THE MONTHS OF MAY THROUGH AUGUST, WHEN IT'S HOT, THEN WE WILL KNOW GEORGE AND I WILL KNOW WHAT WE HAVE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, THE TIMELINE KIND OF FALLEN INTO PLACE. WE HAVE A CART LEASE WITH YAMAHA THAT'S UP IN MAY, JUNE. I'VE GOTTEN QUOTES FROM EVERYONE, BUT MY, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE C O BOND AND EVERYTHING GOING ON AND TRYING TO MAKE TIMING COMING TO FRUITION TO, TO GET THE WORD OUT, TO GET THIS COURSE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, I'M PUSHING FOR EXTENDING THE YAMAHA CONTRACT ONE YEAR, WHICH THAT BASICALLY WOULD BE EXTENDED TO NEXT SPRING WHEN THE GROWING SEASON STARTS. SO IF I COULD HAVE A NEW FLEET OF CART, PLUS IT WILL SAVE THE CITY MONEY FOR A YEAR BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AT THE
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CURRENT PRICE. AND OVER THE PAST 4 OR 5 YEARS, GOLF CART LEASES AND GOLF CARTS PERIOD HAVE GONE UP LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD. SO IT GIVES ME A YEAR OF NOT SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY ON CARTS. BUT THE TIMING ALSO COMES TO WHERE, HEY, IT'S TIME TO ROCK AND ROLL.EVERYTHING'S DONE. TIME TO GET THE WORD OUT SO THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S IN MY PERFECT WORLD AND MY BEST WISHES FOR WHAT'S GOING ON. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT. OH, I DID, YOU KNOW, ME TALKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND IRRIGATION. I GOT MY REPORT FROM TOM, THE SOUTH CENTRAL REGION REGIONAL DIRECTOR FROM THE USDA, UNITED STATES GOLF ASSOCIATION, THAT GEORGE AND I MET WITH. I'M GOING TO EMAIL THAT REPORT ALONG WITH COMMENTS FROM ME TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL.
YOU'LL SEE IT. I'M BACK IN THE OFFICE ON MONDAY, SO I'LL GET IT TO YOU THE FIRST OF NEXT WEEK. THERE'LL BE A LOT OF PROBABLY CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT IN OUR NEXT MEETING TOGETHER. TIMING IS A LITTLE TOO PREMATURE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT REPORT, 75% OF IT IS BASED OFF THE IRRIGATION BEING COMPLETED. BUT IT WAS GOOD. AND HE SPOKE VERY HIGHLY. LAST TIME THEY CAME OUT WAS AUGUST OF 23, WHICH WAS ABOUT THREE MONTHS AFTER I STARTED, WHICH WAS WHEN I SAID, WHY IN THE WORLD WERE WAS THIS COURSE EVEN OPEN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS? SO HE HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO, TO SAY ABOUT WHAT HAS HE SEEN FROM THREE YEARS AGO? IT'S ALL GOOD.
IT'S A GOOD REPORT. AND THAT'S PART OF. SO NOW THEY'RE DONE. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE $2,800 FEE. TEXAS GOLF ASSOCIATION TGA IS THE ONE THAT RUNS PROJECT MUNI, AND I HAVE A PHONE CALL MONDAY TO TALK WITH WITH THEM, WHOM I'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME, TO KIND OF TAKE ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WITH USGA SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT THEY WANT THE MONEY TO BE USED FOR, AS LONG AS IT STAYS IN THOSE PERIMETERS, THEY WILL GIVE ME UP TO 15 GRAND. THE CITY HAS TO MATCH IT FOR 15. BUT BUT THAT'S 30, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE, YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT NOTHING BUT THE PAST TWO, THREE YEARS ON WHEN THIS IRRIGATION IS DONE. AGRONOMICALLY SPEAKING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THINGS TO TEES AND FAIRWAYS THAT HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED HERE IN QUITE A WHILE. WE'VE JUST FOCUSED ON GREENS, AND IT TALKS TREMENDOUSLY ABOUT ALL THAT IN THIS REPORT AS WELL. SO I'LL HIT YOU WITH THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING, AND I'LL EMAIL EVERYONE A COPY WITH MY COMMENTS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT AND AND I'LL EXPLAIN OR ANSWER. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR GREG? GO AHEAD. I ACTUALLY JUST HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO BECAUSE HE WAS GOING TO SEND ME AN EMAIL AFTER THE LAST MEETING TO THE QUESTION I HAD, WILL EACH HOLE BE PRESSURIZED AFTER IT'S FINISHED? AND THE ANSWER WAS YES. WELL, I TOLD YOU THAT EACH HOLE AS WE DO IT WILL PUT ISOLATION VALVES ON THAT PARTICULAR HOLE. AND IT A LOT OF THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I SAID. YES, EVERYTHING WILL BE IRRIGATED EITHER OUT OF OUR CURRENT SYSTEM OR A NEW SYSTEM, BECAUSE THAT IS ALL DEPENDENT ON THE TIMING OF WATER. LESS FRAGMENTS FILLED UP ON NUMBER TWO. AND NUMBER TWO HAVING A PUMP HOUSE. SO YES, IT WILL BE IRRIGATED, BUT DON'T KNOW WHEN AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM YET. ONE OF THE TWO PLACES IT WILL BE IRRIGATED. YEAH YEAH. OH YEAH. YEAH. IT'S GOT TO BE SO YES. SAYS ABOUT WATER TRUCKS IF NEED BE. YEAH. WELL I MEAN THERE'S WATER TRUCKS THAT CAN BE INVOLVED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THERE RIGHT NOW WITH THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS. ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THE PUMP HOUSE ON TWO. ON TWO. THEY'VE GOT BIDS COMING IN. YOU KNOW, AND MY FOCUS IS I KIND OF I DON'T THINK YOU WERE HERE, MIKE, BUT MINE'S MORE THAT IRRIGATION AND THE TIMING AND KEEPING MY GOLFERS COMING AND HOPING ALL THIS WORKS LIKE IT WILL I GET UPDATES ON PUMP HOUSE, AFFLUENT STUFF FOR 17 POND AND TIMING FROM VICTOR, WHO'S THE ENGINEER. JUST RELATED TO YOUR FINANCIAL
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REPORT. SO THE 140 IS GOOD. WE'RE LOSING THE LESS I GET THAT. IS ANY OF THAT DRIVEN BY EXPENSE OR IS EXPENSE YEAR TO YEAR PRETTY COMPARABLE, OR ARE YOU SPENDING LESS TO OPERATE.OH WE'RE WELL YOU HAVE THE BUDGET, WHICH IS ONE THING. AND YOU KNOW, IN MY THREE YEAR TENURE AND THEN LOOKING BACK AT EVEN OLDER YEARS IN THE GOLF BUSINESS, THAT THE BUDGET WILL ALWAYS FLUCTUATE. IT'S A LOT LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS, BUT IT'S WEATHER DRIVEN, IT'S MARKET DRIVEN, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY NOTHING BUT GOLF HAD 82 MILLION ROUNDS PLAYED LAST YEAR. MORE IN HISTORY. IT'S CONDITION DRIVEN. IF I'M A GOLFER, I'M GOING TO GO SPEND MY MONEY ON SOMEWHERE I CAN PUTT AND MONEY WHERE I CAN HIT OFF GRASS RATHER THAN DIRT. I AM BECAUSE I DO WHAT I DO, BUT I ALSO KNOW WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK. SO THE BUDGET'S TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, NUMBERS WERE HIGH AND THEY WERE WAY UNDER BUDGET. BUT THE BUDGET ALLOWED OR APPROVED WERE VERY HIGH. THE PAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE LOWERED THEM. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING INTO A PLACE COLD AND A PLACE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OPEN, YOU'RE KIND OF STARTING OVER AND YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND NEED A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, WE'RE GETTING BETTER.
WE'RE GETTING BETTER. WELL, WE'RE GETTING WORSE. SO IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND UNKNOWNS. THIS LAST YEAR, I LOWERED IT 2 OR 3 TIMES IN BOTH. AND WHEN I'M SAYING BUDGET, I'M SPEAKING FOR MAINTENANCE AND GOLF OPS. AND THEN IT WAS LOWERED AGAIN BY A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK. I WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T I WASN'T AWARE OF IT UNTIL I READ IT, BUT YEAR TO DATE, FISCAL YEAR TO DATE, BASED ON 50% OF THE YEAR BEING FINISHED AT THE END OF MARCH, MAINTENANCE IS 40% 47% TO BUDGET. SO THEY'RE 3% BELOW. AND GOLF OPS IS 50% TO BUDGET. SO WE'RE RIGHT ON. BUT AGAIN, JUST I PROBABLY WASN'T CLEAR. I'M NOT TALKING BUDGET AT ALL. I'M JUST TALKING NUMBERS SPENDING FOR OPERATIONS, RIGHT. LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR. IS IT FLAT UP DOWN JUST TRYING TO GET IT. IT'S IT'S IT'S DOWN. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SPENDING LESS TO OPERATE THE COURSE THIS YEAR THAN YOU DID LAST YEAR A LITTLE BIT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE DOUBLED BUSINESS. YEAH. I'M NOT CRITICIZING. I'M JUST TRYING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO IF ANYTHING, IF I'M SELLING DONUTS, SELLING CARS, AND I SOLD $30,000 WORTH LAST YEAR AND I SOLD $60,000 WORTH THIS YEAR, WHAT DO I GOT TO DO? ANY BUSINESS PERSON, I GOT TO BUY MORE PRODUCT BECAUSE MY NUMBERS KEEP GOING UP. I MEAN, YOU'RE TELLING A GREAT STORY. WE JUST NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. I'LL SORT OF SHORTEN WHAT I THINK. I'M HEARING THAT YOU'RE SPENDING ABOUT THE SAME MONEY TO RUN THE COURSE, BUT WE'RE DRIVING MORE REVENUE. CORRECT. IT'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT. GOOD STORY. IT'S A THREE YEAR PERIOD FROM FROM THE TIME THAT GEORGE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE. RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME SAY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT A LOT LAST YEAR GOING ON BASICALLY A $800,000, GIVE OR TAKE LOSS THREE YEARS AGO TO 350 LAST YEAR IN TWO YEARS WITH REALLY VERY LITTLE TO WORK WITH EXCEPT FOR GEORGE'S KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT HE DOES. AND, AND MY TEAM. SO, SO YEAH, SO, SO I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GIVEN. YOU GOT A 55 YEAR OLD PRODUCT AND WHEN IRRIGATION IS DONE, IT'S GOING TO DO NOTHING, GET BETTER. AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LISTEN TO USGA CONSULTANTS IN THIS REPORT AND READ IT. AND THESE ARE GUYS THAT DO WHAT GEORGE DOES, BUT YET THEY'RE THE CREAM OF THE CROP. AND THEY TRAVEL THROUGHOUT THE US. AND THERE'S MORE GOLF COURSE RENOVATIONS AND REDOS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAN ANY OTHER TIME IN HISTORY. AND YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL MAKING MONEY. AND THE ONES THAT AREN'T MAKING MONEY AND THEY'RE BUT THEY'RE
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CLOSE. THEY'RE SEEING THAT, OH MY GOD, WE GOT TO JUMP ON BOARD AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS HIDDEN FALLS IN MARBLE FALLS LITTLE CITY COURSE IT WAS IN THE BLACK THE FIRST TIME TWO YEARS AGO AND AGAIN LAST YEAR I GO THERE. DAVID HAS BEEN THERE 20 YEARS. HE'S HE'S THE PROFESSIONAL. HE'S GOT A FRIEND OF MINE AND I GO OUT THERE AND PLAY AND HE AND I COMPARE NUMBERS AND TALK ABOUT STUFF IN THE BUSINESS. BUT THEIR CLUBHOUSE IS SHUT DOWN, THE RESTAURANT IS SHUT DOWN, SOME OF THEIR PARKING LOT. THEY'RE REDOING THE PARKING LOT, REDOING THE CLUBHOUSE. THEY HAVE A TEMPORARY CLUBHOUSE. THEY'RE REDOING THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE. I MEAN, IN TODAY'S WORLD, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR? BUT WE'RE WE'RE AT THE BEST WE'VE EVER BEEN AT IN IN THE GOLF BUSINESS AND GOLF BEING PLAYED. A PROFESSIONAL GOLFER PLAYS GOLF FOR A LIVING. A GOLF PROFESSIONAL RUNS COURSES FOR A LIVING AND TRIES TO MAKE MONEY, DOES MAKE MONEY IN TODAY'S WORLD. IF HE HAS A GOOD PRODUCT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL KEEP GOING. TIME WILL TELL. THANKS. OUR STAFF SITUATION. LIKE AS FAR AS FOR GEORGE, IS HE RUNNING ABOUT THE SAME CREW? IS IT STILL A LOT OF TURNOVER? WELL, I MEAN, HE'S BEEN IN MY TENURE IN THIS BUSINESS, WHICH IS MOST OF MY LIFE. WE'VE HAD LITTLE TURNOVER, YOU KNOW, ONE BODY HERE AND THERE, TWO HERE AND THERE. HE'S GOT A CREW OF SEVEN WITH HIM.RIGHT NOW. WE NEED EIGHT BECAUSE WE LOST SOMEONE LAST SUMMER. YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER WANT TO LOSE ANYONE. BUT IT WAS GOOD BECAUSE CANCER SPREADS AND IT WAS TIME. BUT WE HAVEN'T REPLACED THAT YET, ALTHOUGH WE KNOW WHO WE'RE REPLACING IT WITH NOW. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE NEXT WEEK. OKAY. IT'S YOUR FULL STAFF, BUT WE'LL NEED I MEAN ON THAT, MIKE, WE ARE.
BUT ONCE IRRIGATION IS DONE AND IF I'M ABLE TO START ALL THESE PRACTICES THAT WE NEED TO DO AGRONOMICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEED ANOTHER BODY OR TWO. BUT THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE SPRING OF 27 BEST CASE. AND THEN GOLF SHOP, SAME THING. I LOST ONE PART TIME. SO I'M, I'M KIND OF I'M KIND OF WAITING, NOT WAITING MY THOUGHTS. I'M GOING TO REPLACE THE PART TIME WHEN WE FIND THE PERSON. MY TWO OTHER PART TIME, WEEKDAY, PART TIME HAVE GIVEN ME AN EXTRA SHIFT. SO THAT'S GOOD. I'M NOT SURE I'M GOING WITH THAT YET, BUT EVENTUALLY WHAT THIS COURSE NEEDS, WHETHER I'M HERE OR NOT, THEY'LL NEED ONE MORE ASSISTANT, WHICH WILL BE LIKE AN ENTRY LEVEL ASSISTANT, WHICH WILL BE LIKE I WAS WHEN I WAS 23 OUT OF COLLEGE. AND I WANT TO DO THIS AS A CAREER FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, TO COME IN AND THEN CUT BACK ON PART TIME HOURS, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING GOLF TOURNAMENTS ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NO, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. SO BUT FOR NOW WE'RE GOOD.
JUST GET THAT PART TIME FILLED OUTSIDE SERVICES. YOU KNOW, I'M USED TO BEING AT PLACES WHERE I HAD 4 TO 5 KIDS AND OR YOUNGER PEOPLE IN THE MORNING AND 4 OR 5 IN THE AFTERNOON. BUT AGAIN, I'M DOING 60,000 ROUNDS, NOT 34 LIKE WE ARE NOW. SO HERE, YEAH, I'M VERY LIMITED. I'VE GOT TWO IN THE MORNING AND TWO IN THE EVENING ON WEEKENDS AND ONE ON ONE ON THE WEEKDAYS. AND, AND WHEN ALL THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS LEAVE MY WEEKENDER'S. WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR THEY'RE ALL SENIORS. SO I'VE GOT FOUR THAT ARE GONE THIS SUMMER. JENNA MASON I'VE ALREADY GOT THREE LINED UP THAT ARE GOING TO REPLACE, BUT I'VE GOT FIVE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL IN SPORTS STUFF THEY HAVE TO DO WITH FAMILY. SO THAT'S A CONSTANT IN THE GOLF BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN YOUR NUMBERS ARE SMALLER AND IF THEY ALL HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON, WELL, THAT'S WHEN THE THE HEAD PROFESSIONAL AND THE ASSISTANT PROFESSIONALS START WASHING CARS AND RANGE BALLS. AND I CAN STILL DO THAT REALLY GOOD. BY THE WAY, I ENJOYED LAST WEEK, BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF MY TEENAGE YEARS. YEAH, MY BROTHER TOLD ME HE SAW YOU. HE SAID, NOW YOU KNOW, I DO WHATEVER I GOT TO DO. IT'S ALL RIGHT. I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. IT'S A TOUCHY SUBJECT. I WANT TO SAY THAT BEFORE I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. HAS ANYBODY CONTACTED ANY LOCAL AUTHORITIES ABOUT THE ELECTRIC BIKES SLASH ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE THAT I I'VE CAUGHT MYSELF ON OUR GOLF COURSE. HERE'S MY COMMENTS ON THAT. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU
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TWOFOLD. NUMBER ONE IS STRICTLY FROM WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING, EVER SINCE I WAS A TEENAGER TO TODAY, WHETHER I WAS AT A MUNICIPAL COURSE WHERE I GREW UP WORKING OR AT ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS IN THE NATION, WHICH I'VE BEEN AT, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD ISSUES WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST LIKELY NON-GOLFERS. IT'S A NATURE BEAST OF THE BUSINESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW. THEY HAD. THERE WAS A COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO. I'M NOT SURE I KNOW MR. HALL WAS HERE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO'S GOING TO OPEN UP A BUSINESS RIGHT THERE ON LOMAN, LOMAN AND DAWN AND. YEAH, KIND OF RIGHT THERE IN MARCH. I THINK HE'S PROBABLY RUNNING LIKE EVERYTHING IS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET STUFF DONE. MAYBE A LITTLE LATER, HE CAME UP AND SPOKE. OKAY. BECAUSE ON THE AGENDA THAT DAY WERE BASICALLY, I BELIEVE, LAWS AND ORDINANCES ABOUT ELECTRIC BIKES. AND I LIKE THE FACT OF THINGS HE SAID HIS PRESENTATION. HEY, IF THE KIDS ARE OUT, YOU KNOW, RIDING THESE BIKES, I MEAN, I GREW UP RIDING TRIAL BIKES. I DROVE TRIAL MOTORCYCLES WHEN I WAS A KID IN COMPETITION. AND I LOVED DRIVING. I WOULD STILL DRIVE A MOTORCYCLE ON A STREET BIKE, BUT A DIRT BIKE, IF KIDS ARE OUT THERE DOING STUFF RATHER THAN TODAY'S WORLD IN A COMPUTER AND THEY'RE OUTSIDE, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S SUPER, I LOVE IT. HOWEVER, THE OTHER SIDE OF ME, IF IF I'M THERE ON A MONDAY WHEN WE'RE CLOSED, BUT I'M THERE BECAUSE I'M WORKING ADMIN STUFF INSIDE. AND I ALSO RIDE AROUND THE GOLF COURSE AND I SEE A PACK OF ELECTRIC BIKES, JUMPING TEE BOXES AND USING IT AS A RAMP. AND OF COURSE, I'VE GOT MAJOR ISSUES. I'VE BEEN THERE. I MEAN, FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE CHILDREN, MY SON WASN'T PERFECT. HE PLAYED COLLEGE GOLF AND HE DID SOME THINGS HE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND HE PAID FOR IT. BUT I'VE ADDRESSED THEM.I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ON GREENS, ALTHOUGH. THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS STAFF, THEY'VE SEEN TRACKS AND DAMAGE ON NINE AND 18 GREENS PAST MONTH. AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE RIGHT OFF THE ROAD. YEAH. THEY THEY HANG OUT WHICH ON THE WEEKENDS IS IS A PAIN BECAUSE WE'RE SO BUSY PARKING LOTS FULL. THAT PARKING LOT IS DANGEROUS ANYWAY. THERE'S NO STRIPES, THERE'S CURVES, THERE'S ROUTE PAVEMENT COMING UP, ALL KINDS OF STUFF. WELL, THEY'LL BE 6 TO 8 OF THEM ANY GIVEN TIME. GUESS WHAT? IT'S A IT'S A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE. THE CITY OWNS IT. IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO HANG OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL. BUT I'M WAITING FOR THE FIRST TIME. SOMEONE WHIZZES OUT, EITHER GOLF CART OR A CAR AND DON'T SEE ONE OF THOSE KIDS AND SOMEONE'S IN THE HOSPITAL OR DEAD. SO THIS SUNDAY, RICH, ONE OF MY PART TIME RETIRED GENTLEMEN, CALLED THE POLICE.
YOU KNOW, UNKNOWN WHETHER IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW OR IT WAS OKAY OR WHAT. HE DIDN'T SEE HIM BECAUSE I'VE TOLD MY STAFF, HEY, IF WE SEE ANY OF THESE KIDS ON THE GOLF COURSE, WE HAD A MOTORCYCLE. ONCE UPON A TIME, HE FINALLY QUIT BECAUSE HE HE GOT SPOKEN TO BY THE POLICE, AND WE CONFRONTED HIM, TOO. CALL THE POLICE. JUST CALL THEM. I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE ON THE RANGE, ON A BIKE. IF THEY'RE ON THE FAIRWAY, THEY'RE ROUGH. IF IT'S BUSINESS HOURS AND THEY'RE ON IT, CALL. SO HE CALLED, BUT THEY WERE IN THE PARKING LOT. NOTHING THEY COULD DO. AND OF COURSE, BY THE TIME THEY GOT THERE, THEY WERE GONE ANYWHERE. OUR NEW POLICE CHIEF, HE AND I SPOKE TO STAFF MEETINGS AGO BECAUSE I WAS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THE BATHROOMS, ANY GIVEN EVENING MAY GET BROKEN INTO OR VANDALIZED ON THE COURSE. WELL, HE'S, YOU KNOW, HAVE A COUPLE OF HIS DETECTIVES COME AND SEE ME AND WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME CAMERAS UP TO WHERE WE THINK THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY COMING IN AT AND GO FROM THERE. AND BELIEVE ME, BETWEEN DEVIN AND MY STAFF AND MYSELF, IF WE SEE IT AND WE RECOGNIZE THEM, WE'LL KNOW WHO THEY ARE. THEN THEY WILL BE ADDRESSED BY OUR POLICE FORCE. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THAT STANDS. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT. GO RIGHT. ELECTRIC BIKES, GO RIDE MOTORCYCLES, DO IT WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO AND WHERE YOU SHOULD AND DON'T VANDALIZE IT. YEAH. I CAUGHT HIM ON THE 18TH GREEN ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. SO I WAS ASKING EVERYONE'S MY WITNESS, PLEASE, IF YOU SEE THAT AGAIN. I WENT AND TOLD HIM TO GET OFF, LET ME KNOW. YEAH. NO, IT WASN'T A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE WHEN I GOT BACK, BUT. WELL, I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T. YOU DIDN'T
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HAVE A PLEASANT ONE WITH THE HOUSTON ASTROS EXPERIENCE. THAT'S TRUE. SO BUT JUST I MEAN, CALL ME, RIGHT. BECAUSE I'LL CALL THE POLICE RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. OR SNAP A PICTURE. OKAY.OKAY. IF THAT HAPPENED AND I HAVE OBVIOUSLY LIVING RIGHT, RIGHT THERE. I SEE THEM GO BY.
IT HAS TO BE SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE CALLED AS WELL BECAUSE A WHOLE PACK WILL COME DOWN. OH, I KNOW THERE'S A PACK. AND A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, A POLICE OFFICER WAS SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE GOLF COURSE FACING UP THE STREET TOWARDS MY HOUSE SO THEY COULD SEE THEM COMING. YEAH. AND IT WAS OFF INSIDE. SO SOMEBODY ELSE IS CALLING TOO, AND THEY'RE AND I DON'T THINK THE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T QUOTE THE SPECIFIC LAW OR DETAILS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN THE POLICE, WHEN, WHEN CAPTAIN FRANCO OR CHIEF FRANCO GOT A CAPTAIN FRANCO EXCUSE ME, GOT UP AND TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. I BELIEVE IT WAS HIM AT THAT MEETING AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE LEGAL. IF A BIKE. BECAUSE I'VE SEEN BIKES GOING FAST TOO. BUT IF A BIKE OR A STREET BIKE GOES OVER 15MPH, WELL, THEN IT KIND OF VOIDS SOME OF THAT LAW, BUT NONE OF THEM GO 15 OR MORE. BUT WHEN YOU'RE ON A DOWNHILL, THAT'S WHEN THEY HAUL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I JUST HOPE THEY GO FASTER. THEY GO A LOT FASTER AND THEY'LL. RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU RIDE BIKES, DON'T YOU MIKE? YEAH. THEY'RE GOING A LOT FASTER ON THE STREETS. THE ONLY THING I OBJECT TO ON THE STREETS BECAUSE KIDS WILL BE KIDS. AND WE WERE ALL, YEAH. NO IS WHEN THEY DON'T WEAR HELMETS DOING. OH YEAH. THE SPEED THAT THEY'RE GOING. NO NO, NO I DO. AND THEN IF I SEE THEM ON THE GOLF COURSE RIGHT ON THREE, I'LL GO OUT AND YELL AT THEM. YEAH. ONCE IN A WHILE THEY DO THE TEE BOX THING. YEAH. I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE IN GREEN. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S WHERE I'VE CAUGHT THEM. IS JUMPING TEE BOXES OR RIDING THE CART PATH. AND THEN ONE. WELL I HAD ONE. WANT TO SHAKE MY HAND AND. SIR.
I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. HE WAS HE WAS EDDIE HASKELL. I MEAN, THAT WAS FACETIOUS, BUT HE'S THAT KID THAT'S GOING TO KNOW. ARE YOU ALL HEARING ME? I GOT MY PHONE OUT. IF THIS HAPPENS, NEXT TIME I CATCH YOU, I'M GOING TO CALL MY GOOD FRIEND THE POLICE CHIEF. NOT DOING IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M GOING TO THE NEXT TIME. SO THEY KIND OF I'M PROBABLY THE BAD GUY. PLUS THEY KNOW MY TRUCK TOO. THEY KNOW WHAT I DRIVE BECAUSE WHEN I SEE THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'LL SLOW DOWN AND KIND OF LOOK, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THEM ALL. THEY'RE LOOKING AT ME. AND SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION. THE CITY'S GIVING YOU GUIDANCE ON HOW TO HANDLE IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I NEED. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GREG? MAN'S ABOUT TO BE MARRIED. HE NEEDS TO GET OUT OF HERE. SO YOU TAKE HOME MESSAGE. YOU WANT US TO CALL THE POLICE WHEN WE SEE HIM? YES, SIR. IF YOU IF YOU SEE HIM, IF WE'RE OPEN.
YEAH. AND THE ONLY DAY, THE ONLY TIME WE'RE NOT OPEN IS, IS BASICALLY BEFORE SEVEN IN THE MORNING AND AFTER SEVEN AT NIGHT AND MONDAYS. NOW, THE RULE THAT GOES, IF YOU HAVE A BICYCLE, A GOLF CART, YOU'RE A WALKER, YOUR JOGGER, YOU'RE FREE TO DO IT BEFORE HOURS OR AFTER OR ON MONDAYS WHEN WE'RE CLOSED. BUT THAT'S CART PATH OR A WALKER RIGHT ON THE FAIRWAY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. RIGHT. AND I, AND I DRIVE IT EVERY SINGLE MONDAY, EVERY SINGLE MONDAY.
AND SURE, I'VE HAD TO STOP GOLFERS FROM PLAYING AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE'RE NOT OPEN ON MONDAY. MY INTENT IS NOT BAD, SIR, MA'AM, I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT, BUT IF I LET YOU DO IT, I GOT TO LET EVERYBODY DO IT. AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.
EVENTUALLY. HOPEFULLY I'LL GET THIS OPEN ON MONDAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I DEAL WITH. BUT YEAH, WHEN I SEE IT, IT'S ANYTIME YOU SEE HIM AND IT'S THERE ON THE GRASS, FEEL FREE TO CALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANKS. HAVE A GOOD ONE. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATS.
THANKS. THE GOOD NEWS IS IT'S THE SAME BUNCH OF KIDS. I SEE THEM ALL OVER. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THAT HUGE POPULATION OF PEOPLE. NO, NO. AND YOU KNOW, I AM LIKE ANY OTHER PARTS. I'M GLAD TO SEE THEM OUT AND NOT IN THE HOUSE. I MEAN, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THEM OUT. IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT THAT HAS TO BE GIVEN THERE, ESPECIALLY ON, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAUGHT HIM ON THE GREEN, IT WAS LIKE, COME ON. I MEAN, DID THEY GIVE YOU BACK THOSE KIDS THAT YOU CAUGHT? DO I THAT DO NOT HAVE BEEN YOU WON'T BE CATCHING THEM AGAIN THERE. YOU MAY CATCH THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT NOT THERE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU CATCH THEM THERE AGAIN. NO.
PROBABLY NOT. SO I DIDN'T YELL OR ANYTHING. I GOT YELLED AT BACK. I DIDN'T YELL AT THEM. I JUST SAID IT WAS THEY DIDN'T NEED TO BE ON THE COURSE. AND. ESPECIALLY THE GREEN. AND ONE OF THEM FLIPPED ME OFF, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S SOMETHING ELSE BACK. AND THAT WAS THE END OF THE DISCUSSION. SO I MEAN, THEY LEFT, BUT THAT WAS WHAT I GOT BACK IN RETURN. SO I GUESS MISSION ACCOMPLISHED SOMEWHAT. SO ANYWAY, ON TO OUR CITY COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
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TO REPORT TO US? NOTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. JUST AS, AS GREG MENTIONED, WE HAVE BUDGETING FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR COMING UP, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A LENGTHY PROCESS. THE MAYOR'S KIND OF THROWN DOWN THE GANTLET ON REDUCING EXPENSES. I, YOU KNOW, URGE YOU TO BE ACTIVE ADVOCATES FOR THE GOLF COURSE. I CERTAINLY WILL BE. I LOOK AT IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE NET RESULTS FOR THE FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE GOLF COURSE. AND SO THAT'S TO ME WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON. SO AS GREG SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE COUNTING ON BUSINESS GOING UP. WE'RE COUNTING ON REDUCING THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE ANNUAL DEFICIT FURTHER AND MOVING TOWARD A BALANCED BUDGET. AND THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SPENDING SOME MONEY ON AS AS THE GOLFING INCREASES AND GOLFERS INCREASE USING THE COURSE. AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN IT AND, AND IMPROVE THAT, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES. SO WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT. AND I WILL BE A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR, YOU KNOW, LET'S TAKE A BUSINESS APPROACH TO THIS. AND, AND WITH THE GOAL OF REDUCING THE NET LOSS WE HAVE HAD, REDUCING THAT FURTHER AGAIN, FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. OKAY, KIND OF HARD TO REDUCE WHEN EVERYTHING'S GOING UP. BUT I HEAR YOU AS REDUCING THE THE NET LOSS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE REVENUE TO GO UP FASTER THAN THE EXPENSES, RIGHT? WHICH WAS WHAT WAS ASKED EARLIER AND, AND PRODUCED THAT IMPROVED RESULT OF GOING FROM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 250 OR SO THOUSAND DOLLAR DEFICIT TO, YOU KNOW, CUTTING THAT MAYBE IN HALF. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, BALANCING, BALANCING THE BUDGET. YEAH, I DO BELIEVE THAT. I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT THE GOLF COURSE WILL EVENTUALLY BREAK EVEN OR BECOME PROFITABLE AS LONG AS THE GOLF MARKET CONTINUES MOVING IN THE DIRECTION IT'S GOING, THERE'S REALLY NO REASON FOR IT NOT TO.WITH THE AMOUNT OF PLAYERS THAT WE SEE OUT HERE, ESPECIALLY ON A SATURDAY AND NOW A LOT OF TIMES ON A SUNDAY, I WOULD JUST THINK THAT YOU LOOK AROUND AT HIDDEN FALLS, CRYSTAL FALLS, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET ON THERE. AND NOT TO MENTION CRYSTAL FALLS, YOU CAN'T GET ON THERE FOR NOT EVEN A DECENT PRICE RIGHT NOW. SO I CAN'T SEE US NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK EVEN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD IN TERMS OF PLANNING BECAUSE THERE MAY BE NEED TO BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUNKER, CERTAINLY TO THE PARKING LOT THERE. AND SO SOME OF THOSE INVESTMENTS WILL MAKE TOTAL SENSE AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IMPROVED GOLF COURSE OVERALL WITH THE IRRIGATION AND LOTS MORE GOLF BEING PLAYED.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE'RE IN A FINALLY IN A TIME WHEN WE CAN BE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE GOLF COURSE, MY BUNKER IS AN UNTAPPED. THAT'S UNTAPPED POTENTIAL. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU COULD DO THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POOL THAT WAS CEMENTED, THE CEMENTED IN POOL AND ALL THAT THAT COULD BE TURNED INTO SOMETHING, AN OUTDOOR AREA OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF UNTAPPED POTENTIAL THERE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THERE'S LIMITATIONS ON SOME OF THAT TOO, BECAUSE OF THE GRANDFATHER WITH THE GAS CARTS BEING BELOW THE THE BUILDING ITSELF. SO BUT BUT I HEAR YOU. SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL LIAISON HERE? WHATSOEVER? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JESS. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON
[IV.1. Approval of the meeting minutes from February 24, 2026.]
TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 24TH, SUSIE SENT THEM OUT. YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN MEETINGS, EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THEM. AND DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM? I MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. I'LL SECOND. MOTION PASSES. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER TWO,[IV.2. Consideration and possible action regarding GCAC 2025 Work Plan Activities.]
CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING GCAC 25 WORK PLAN ACTIVITIES. I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO GAGE. I JUST TOTALLY MISSED THAT MEETING. YOU DIDN'T I DIDN'T. HE GOT RESCHEDULED, OKAY. BECAUSE IT CAME UP ON MY PHONE THAT NIGHT AND I WAS LIKE, IT POPPED UP AT 7:00 THAT NIGHT. AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT THE HECK? AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE CONVERTED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION NOW. AND THEY DID NOT HAVE A MEETING IN MARCH.OKAY. SO THE FIRST ONE WAS GOING TO BE THE SECOND TUESDAY OF APRIL. AND I'VE TALKED TO
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ERIC ZINO. HE KNOWS WE'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING TOGETHER WITH HIM. HE WAS GOING TO TALK TO. TO THE CHAIR OF THE EDC AND SEE IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE ANY KIND OF PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH JUST A SUBGROUP. OKAY. AND HE'LL AS SOON AS I HEAR BACK FROM ERIC, I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT. OKAY. THAT WAS THE SECOND TUESDAY. YOU SAID SECOND TUESDAY AND OKAY, 3 OR 4, I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW. I KNOW, WAS IT THE LAST ONE YOU SENT ME WAS AT FOUR? BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT GOT ME. I GOT THE ALERT AT 7:00 AT NIGHT AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, IT'S IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID WRONG THERE. IT'S IN THAT TIME. LET ME SEE WHAT I'VE GOT FOR THE APRIL MEETING. OKAY.I'VE GOT 4:00 ON MY CALENDAR. THAT'S FINE. I'LL VERIFY THAT. I'LL PUT IT IN MY OUTLOOK THIS TIME SO I KNOW IT'S RIGHT. I PUT IT IN GOOGLE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. SO, SO GOOD. SO I GUESS I RETRACT MY APOLOGY FROM THAT FOR NOT ATTENDING. BUT I FELT BAD. I WAS SITTING THERE ON MY BACK PORCH AND WAS LIKE, DANG IT. NO, IT WAS THE TAKING NOTES. IT WAS THE EDC, WHICH IS NOW. IT WAS WHAT, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED E D I C IT WAS IT WAS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. YEAH. EDC NOW IT'S A NOW IT'S CAUGHT.
THEY INCORPORATED IT. OKAY, SO WHAT SHOULD I CALL IT NOW IT'S EDC RIGHT? EDC YEAH, JUST EDC REMOVE THE A LAST YEAR. JUST SO YOU KNOW. JASON, LAST YEAR ME AND GAGE, WE WENT TO A MEETING WITH THEM AND TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL. OF COURSE, ALL THIS POTENTIAL STUFF HAS TO DO WITH EVERYTHING GETTING FINISHED, BUT YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL WORKING WITH THEM ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO, YOU KNOW, DRIVE SOME REVENUE WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE. DIFFERENT? WOULD THAT BE ADVERTISING OR I THINK WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT AIRBNBS, THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, LIKE IF PEOPLE ARE WORKING WITH THE GOLF COURSE TO GIVE SOME TYPE OF DISCOUNT WITH SOME OF THE AIRBNB PEOPLE. FORMER COUNCILMAN ABOUT WORKING WITH AIRBNB. HOLY COW. WELL, SHORT TERM RENTALS, NOT AIRBNB, SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHATEVER THAT IS. SO BUT ANYWAY, IT'S JUST LITTLE THINGS, LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE, BUT WE WENT TO THAT LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, AT THE, I THINK ABOUT MID LAST YEAR OR SOMETHING. AND THEN THEY DID THIS INCORPORATING IT. AND SO WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WAITING TO GET BACK INTO IT. SO THAT'S TO BRING YOU BACK, BRING YOU UP TO.
OKAY, SO SECOND TUESDAY OF APRIL. SO YEAH, IF I CAN, I WAS JUST PULLING IT UP ON OUR WEBSITE AND IT'S EDC STANDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, RIGHT. AND IT IS THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 4 P.M. OKAY. SO. THE OTHER THING WE TALKED, WE, WE BROUGHT UP LAST TIME WAS MEETING WITH THE COUNCILMAN DID OR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. DID WE MOVE ON ANY OF THAT YET? WE HAVE MET WITH TWO. WE HAD THE THIRD SCHEDULED AND THERE'S A LAST MINUTE CANCELLATION. AND THEN I WAS GONE FOR TEN DAYS. AND THEN WE GOT BACK FOR THE THIRD CITY COUNCILMAN HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY WHERE SHE HAD TO GO OUT OF STATE. OKAY. AND SHE WASN'T SURE WHEN SHE WAS GOING TO BE BACK. AND SHE'LL HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK WE'LL PROBABLY REENGAGE. OKAY. BUT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, I EXPECT THAT WE'LL HAVE HAD THAT MEETING AND THEN WE'LL SHARE THE NOTES. OKAY, NOT THAT I'M ASKING FOR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT DO THEY GO PRETTY GOOD? WITH THAT? MINE WENT PRETTY WELL. I THOUGHT SO GOOD. I MEAN, LAST YEAR THEY WENT WELL, SO THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. OKAY, SO JACK AND I HAD A MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH JESS. JUST TO KIND OF TALK IN GENERAL ABOUT HOW THEY SAW US PROCEEDING WITH WHAT WE SET UP AS OUR AS OUR GOALS FOR THE WORK PLAN. AND, AND WE HAD A I THOUGHT WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION. WE WERE TOGETHER FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, I GUESS. AND GUYS, Y'ALL JUMP IN, I, I MADE A FEW POINTS FROM THE DISCUSSION, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME STUFF THAT I MISSED. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS EXPLORING WAYS WE CAN LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO IMPROVE REVENUE OR REDUCE COSTS. WE. WE KICKED AROUND THE FACT
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THAT SOME CLUBS ARE SETTING UP A. SIMULATORS. WHETHER SOMETHING LIKE THAT WORKS OR, YOU KNOW, THERE USED TO BE ONE IN THE BACK ROOM WHERE WE HAVE THE MEETINGS. OH, REALLY? THAT USED TO BE A SIMULATOR. WOW. I MEAN, WE WE DIDN'T COME TO IT WAS REALLY MORE OF A BRAINSTORMING SESSION THAN ANYTHING. WE ALSO SAID THAT WE NEED TO TARGET WAYS THAT WE CAN BRING MORE NON-GOLFERS OUT TO THE COURSE. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT ESTABLISHING THE VALUE OF THE GOLF COURSE TO, TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY WAYS THAT WE CAN START TO GET NON-GOLFERS ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING OUT AT THE COURSE. DO YOU FEEL WE'RE KIND OF, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SOMEWHAT HANDCUFFED THERE. WITH THE WAY THE BUNKER IS, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE RELYING ON THE PERSON WHO'S LEASING THE BUNKER TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT HE WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE. I'M JUST SAYING. BUT YOU ARE KIND OF LIMITED TO OKAY, BECAUSE TO ME, THE THE MOVIE STUFF IS GREAT AND THOSE ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE THEY'VE BEEN GOING PRETTY DECENT. BUT TO GET THE FULL USE OUT OF THAT, AND I ALWAYS HATE TO GO BACK AND USE JOINT VENTURE AS A. YOU KNOW, BUT THEY HAVE GOOD EXAMPLES. I MEAN, THEY HAVE CORNHOLE NIGHTS. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF COMMUNITY THINGS. THEY DO DIFFERENT SCENARIO. I KNOW BECAUSE THE POA KIND OF HAS IT ALL OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW I ENVISION. WHEN I WAS TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THAT. THE BUNKERS UNTAPPED. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU COULD DO THERE WITH A LITTLE SPRUCING UP HERE AND THERE. SO. BOOZY BINGO IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD. SO ESPECIALLY WHEN I CALL IT AND I'VE GOT TO PLEAD IGNORANCE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF, IF THE GOLF COURSE GETS TO SHARE IN THE UPSIDE OF BUSINESS COMING TO THE BUNKER OR IF IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT FLAT LEASE RENTS IT, HE RENTS IT AND IT SAYS IT SAYS. SO THERE'S NO REVENUE SHARING INVOLVED. LIKE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF RETAIL CONTRACTS. I DON'T THINK THERE IS. SO AND I DO WANT TO SAY, I MEAN, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THERE THAT I KNOW FALL UNDERNEATH THERE.LIKE FOR INSTANCE, DOING BINGO THERE. IT'S FOR YOU TO CALL BINGO AT THAT PLACE IS YOU GOT NUMBER ONE B, A NONPROFIT YOU THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF YOU GOT TO GO BY THE STATE TO GET A PERMIT TO DO IT. IT'S A SNAKE PIT. IT IS. IT GOES I MEAN, SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS THAT THAT. WHICH IS THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE POA OWNING JOINT VENTURES HERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WE GOT A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T GET AROUND IT, BUT WE HAVE TO GET BUY IN, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T. IT'S INCOME FROM HIM IF WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN EVENTS AND ALL THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN EXTRA LAYER OF STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TO OVERCOME. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE MONEY FROM THE BUNKER STUFF. IT'S COMMUNITY PERCEPTION, RIGHT? CORRECT. MORE OF THE COMMUNITY. THAT IN ITSELF THAT'S TRUE. DOESN'T MATTER WHO OWNS THE BUNKER, RIGHT? IF YOU PARTICIPATION, THEN YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED. AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH PART. LIKE I SAID, I KNOW THERE'S A FINE LINE THERE WHERE I CAN JUST TALK ABOUT MOVIE NIGHT BECAUSE I WENT THERE WHERE THE CITY IS RUNNING IT OUT THERE BY THE GOLF COURSE BUNKERS OPEN AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT BENEFITS HIM.
SO I'M ASSUMING YOU STILL DO SOME STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE. WHERE IS THAT CITY PROPERTY LIE AND IS HE STRICTLY JUST INSIDE THAT BUILDING, WHICH I BELIEVE HE IS? COULD THE CITY DO SOMETHING WITH ANY OF THE OUTSIDE PART OF IT? AND THEN WE HAVE THE WHOLE OKAY, WELL, DID THE WATER SPRAY THERE OR SOMETHING THAT DAY? I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS BEING THE CITY ASPECT, IF HE WERE TO COME OUTSIDE, HE WOULD HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE CITY TO COME OUT CORRECT AND PAY A FEE FOR THAT. SO BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT STUFF SHOULD HAMPER US. YEAH, I JUST I DO, I DO LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING BECAUSE I LIKE I SAID, WE'LL GO. I THINK IT'S AN UNTAPPED AREA THAT CAN BE USED. IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY UGLY AREA RIGHT NOW. IT COULD BE CHANGED, I THINK RATHER CHEAPLY JUST ON THE ON THE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET IT LOOKING A LITTLE BIT THE CEMENT POND IT IS RIGHT NOW. PUT YOUR SIMULATOR WHERE THE POOL USED TO BE. WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING, I MEAN THAT LIKE THE ONE I HAVE JOINT VENTURE IS IN A TRAILER OUTSIDE AND I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT. I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THAT IS, BUT I KNOW I SEE THE PRICES THEY CHARGE FOR IT THOUGH. IT'S NOT CHEAP, YOU KNOW, SO. BUT I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING ON THAT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. WHAT ELSE YOU WERE GOING TO SAY. NO, NO, NO, THAT THAT LIKE I SAID, IT WAS MORE BRAINSTORMING THAN ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, JESS. JACK, ANYTHING Y'ALL WANT TO. I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND SORT
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OF WELCOMING IS SEEING THE MAYOR, I'D SAY IN TOTAL SUPPORT MODE NOW FOR THE IRRIGATION AND WANTING TO SEE THAT GET DONE. HE EVEN OFFERED COMMENTARY THAT HE HEARD THAT HIGHLAND WAS UP FOR SALE, AND THEY'VE CUT THE PRICE IN HALF, I GUESS, AND IT HASN'T SOLD. AND FROM AN EFFLUENT STANDPOINT, I THINK HE WAS LIKE, WELL, MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A SPOT. WE COULD MOVE EFFLUENT AND STUFF. SO IT WAS IT WAS ALL POSITIVE GIVEN THE HISTORY OF, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT STILL BE POSITIVE? SO THAT I THOUGHT WAS GOOD. YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT TRYING TO SIMPLIFY REPORTING SO THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD SORT OF UNDERSTAND. SO GAGE AND I SORT OF TOOK IT TO DO THAT. HE WAS OPEN TO, HEY, IF YOU HAVE A VIEW THAT, YOU KNOW, A GRAPH THAT WOULD LOOK PRETTY COOL EACH MONTH OR EACH QUARTER THAT WE PUT INSIDE, YOU KNOW, ANY LOCAL COMMUNICATION OR ON THE WEBSITE, HE WAS ALL ABOUT DOING IT AND HELPING, YOU KNOW, GIVING IT TO THE FINANCIAL LEADER IN THE CITY TO PUT THE INFORMATION IN. SO I THOUGHT OVERALL, PRETTY GOOD MEETING FROM THAT STANDPOINT. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S VERY POSITIVE HERE, THAT MAYOR SAM WAS THERE AS WELL. AND AND PARTAKING IN IT. THAT'S THAT'S A POSITIVE SIGN. AND I WOULD JUST ADD KIND OF A COMMENT ABOUT THE RESTAURANT AND ACTIVITIES AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE OUTSIDE OR WHATEVER THAT THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY INCREASE BUSINESS. AND, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY YOU WANT THE, THE, THE PERSON WHO'S OPERATING THE RESTAURANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE MAKING, MAKING A PROFIT. AND, AND BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY USING THE RESTAURANT THAT WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANT AND THAT'S ABLE TO PROVIDE GREAT FOOD AND, AND, AND AN ATMOSPHERE THAT, THAT ATTRACTS BUSINESS. SO, BUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE OR SOME, SOME GROUP OF, OF VOLUNTEERS COULD REALLY SPEARHEAD, IDENTIFY AND SPEARHEAD THE INCREASING OR CREATING. AND AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME BARRIERS THAT, THAT ARE SOME CHALLENGES TO OVERCOME IN, IN ADDITIONAL ACTIVITIES AROUND THE GOLF COURSE, WHETHER IT BE GOLF, WHETHER IT BE CORNHOLE OR WHATEVER. BUT I THINK THAT IF, IF THE. WHAT I HAVE NOTED IS THAT THAT CITIZEN GROUPS, VOLUNTEER GROUPS HAVE ENORMOUS INFLUENCE AND DIFFERENT FROM WHAT CITY STAFF CAN, CAN DO AND CAN, CAN, CAN SPEAK STRONGLY AND TAKE ACTIONS THAT WILL IMPROVE THINGS. AND I, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT KEY LARGO VISTA BEAUTIFUL. THAT GROUP, WHAT IT'S DOING OR THE LIONS CLUB OR WHATEVER. SO IF, IF, IF, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ON, IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD HELP TO, YOU KNOW, BE A DRAW, AS GAGE WAS SAYING, TO BRING PEOPLE IN. AND EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE THING AND YOU WANT TO KIND OF SPEARHEAD MAKING THAT HAPPEN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING. I AGREE. ANY OTHER. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ANY OF OUR WORK PLAN ACTIVITIES? I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GOING BACK AND MEETING WITH THE PARK AND REC COMMITTEE. I HAD THAT ONE MEETING LAST YEAR WITH THEM. IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS ANY OVERLAP FROM THEIR VIEWPOINT, AND I WAS STRUGGLING TO FIND ONE FROM MY VIEWPOINT. AFTER TALKING, I FORGOT THE GUY'S NAME. HE WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT COMMITTEE. REAL NICE GUY. I GUESS THE ONLY THING THAT OVERLAPS EVEN IN MY MIND IS THE TENNIS COURTS. PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT ARE THAT ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GOLF COURSE CARED ABOUT. I REMEMBER IN TERMS OF OVERLAP WITH THE GOLF BALLS, THE PEOPLE HITTING ON THE DRIVING RANGE, GETTING INTO THEIR TERRITORY. RIGHT? THAT'S AND THAT DIDN'T I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS THERE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE AND WHO WHO'S. SO THE THE COURTS ARE IN BAD SHAPE RIGHT NOW AND THEY NEED TO BE RENOVATED. IS THAT PART IN REC OR IS THAT US. NO, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. THE GOLF COURSE OR IS THAT OR IS THAT PART OF THE GOLF COURSE. THAT'S WHAT[00:55:05]
I'M AWARE OF. NO. TO ME, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CLEAR. WHEN THE TENNIS COURTS CAME UP, GREG WOULD BE LIKE, NO, THAT'S NOT US. THAT'S NOT MY. BUT FROM A FROM THE CITY'S BUDGETING VIEWPOINT, WHOSE BUDGET DOES THAT COME OUT OF? THAT'S PARK AND REC BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT EVEN PUT UP THE NET. IT WAS THAT IT WAS THAT GROUP THAT DID THAT. GREG WAS HELPING THEM, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE PRICE. BUT IT WAS PARKING, RIGHT. THE CITY HAD TO PAY FOR IT. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GOLF COURSE. NO, NOT AT ALL. IT CAME OUT OF THE PARK AND RECS. OKAY, SO THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE ON THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. SO WHERE WOULD JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, WHERE MIGHT YOU SEE SOME OVERLAP WHERE WE COULD WORK WITH THEM ON WHAT WOULD WE WORK WITH THEM ON? BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO MEET WITH THEM AGAIN IF THERE WAS SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO TALK ABOUT OR THINK ABOUT. THE ONLY THING THAT I COULD THINK OF. I MEAN, AND THIS IS OPEN TO ANYBODY WHO CAN THINK OF ANYTHING IS IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THESE EVENTS AND THINGS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE JUST THEM INVOLVED IN IT AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THAN WHAT WE THAT WHAT WE HAVE. WE RAN A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, I MEAN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM. CORRECT.OKAY, SO WHAT ABOUT PROMOTING PARK ACTIVITIES AROUND THE NONOPERATING HOURS ON THE GOLF COURSE? THAT TOO. YEAH. AS AN EXAMPLE, WALKING EVENTS AFTER 7 P.M. OR ON MONDAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT, WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE PARKS FOR. YEAH. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ON MONDAYS BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT THERE MOWING AND, AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. YEAH. BUT MOST OF THE ACTIVITY WOULD BE ON THE CART PATHS. SO YEAH, I'M ASSUMING IT'D BE KIND OF IN THE EVENING ANYWAY, RIGHT? YEAH. IF IT'S ON A MONDAY, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE BRAINSTORM AND MAYBE GO TO THEM AND ASK THEM LIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW? YEAH, I WONDER WHAT THE RECORD IS FOR THE WALKING RECORD FOR ALL 18 HOLES? YEAH. YOU COULD HAVE A CONTEST OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BUT. IT'S A LONG WALK BY THE WAY. YEAH. COUPLE OF BIG HILLS. THANK YOU GAUGE. SO JUST REAL QUICK. SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO WITH THE PARKS WOULD BE SOMETHING ABOUT INCREASING THE USAGE FROM THE NON-GOLFING COMMUNITY, RIGHT? WOULD BE THE OVERALL IDEA. THEN HOW CAN WE DO THAT? RIGHT. AND BRAINSTORMING WITH THEM. OKAY, I'LL RUN WITH THAT. DO YOU KNOW? SO THAT SORT OF RELATED BUT UNRELATED, HAS THE CITY EVER LOOKED TO PUT PICKLEBALL ON THE HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS COURTS? I SEE THEY'RE ALL NEW. THEY'VE JUST EXPANDED THEM TO, I THINK, 16 OR 18 COURTS SO THAT THEY CAN HOST EVENTS. NO DIFFERENT.
I'M SURPRISED THAT THEY DON'T DO PICKLEBALL IN PE. IT'S SUCH AN EASY, INEXPENSIVE SPORT FOR A SCHOOL TO DO. YOU'VE GOT A COMPLETELY. YEAH, EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT COURSE. AND LET'S JUST PUT. YOU JUST PUT LINES AND THEN IN PORTABLE NET IT'S EASY. WE DO THAT ALREADY ON THE TENNIS COURTS, BUT MAYBE THAT MESSES UP OUR HIGH SCHOOL SPORT. THAT BEING A PERSON THAT WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS AND ACTUALLY DID ALL THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE EXTRA YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW. YEAH. FOCUS NOT BEING TOURNAMENT COURTS AND YOUR AND YOUR MAYBE YOUR PRACTICE COURTS. YOU SHOULD DRIVE ME CRAZY IN BASKETBALL WITH ALL THE VOLLEYBALL STRIPES.
YEAH. NO, I SAY WE GET THE SAME DEAL, BUT BUT I ALSO THINK THAT'D BE KIND OF HARD BEING AT SCHOOL, PROPERTY, SCHOOL AND ALL THAT. YOU HAVE TO RENT IT FROM THE SCHOOL. I THINK WE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, ONE TIME WE WERE RENTING. NO, THAT WAS THE POOL ASPECT OF IT BECAUSE SARAH HAS THEIRS, YOU KNOW, AS WELL. YEAH, I THINK WE GOT PLENTY OF COURTS IN LAGO. I MEAN, THE ONES THAT PARK ARE REALLY NICE. AND THEY WERE RECENTLY RENOVATED. AND THOSE ONES THOUGH. RIGHT. THEY'RE PO RIGHT. BUT YOU CAN INVITE GUESTS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR PLANNED COMMUNITY AND THEY RENOVATED THE ONES IN POINT VENTURE. WE PLAY THERE ON FRIDAYS AND WE JUST NEED TO GET THE ONES FIXED AT THE GOLF COURSE. IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. BUT YEAH, BUT PARKS AND REC, I GUESS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ON OPEN DISCUSSIONS? THE ONLY THING I
[IV.3. Open Discussion.]
WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT AN OPEN DISCUSSION. I TALKED ABOUT GREG AND THAT WAS THIS. THE ELECTRIC BIKES AND AND MORE SO THE ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES. I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE SEE THE ELECTRIC BIKES, BUT THERE'S THE ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES THAT ARE BECOMING.THE THING IS, THEY'RE ALL ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES, BUT THEY GET AROUND IT BY PUTTING PEDALS ON THEM. CORRECT. THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. THEY HAVE A THROTTLE. RIGHT. OH, REALLY? I JUST YEAH,
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I'VE BEEN LOSING MY MIND OVER THIS. AND SO I STARTED WATCHING SOME YOUTUBE STUFF TO KIND OF CALM ME DOWN. AND IT JUST GETS ME MORE INFURIATED ABOUT HOW EVERYBODY IS SKIRTING THE LAWS ON THIS. SOME OF THESE BIKES THAT ARE GOING BY ME, THEY'RE GOING 35, THEY'RE NOT GOING 15 MILES AN HOUR. THEY'RE GOING WAY FASTER AND THEY'RE GOING UPHILL ON A WHEELIE, RIGHT? 40 MILES AN HOUR. SO, SO I HAVE A QUESTION JUST JUST AMONG OUR GROUP, IS THERE ANYTHING WE MIGHT WANT TO BE ADVOCATING FOR, LIKE SPIKE STRIPS 1 OR 2. 1 OR 2. OH I'M SORRY. NO, I THINK WELL, I THINK IT WENT BACK TO MY I WENT BACK, I THINK IT WENT BACK TO MY QUESTION TO GREG THAT WHAT CAN WE DO? AND I WAS MORE INTERESTED IF THIS HAS A CITY EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE IT'S A GROWING PROBLEM TO HAVE. I MEAN, I'M COMING OUT FROM A GOLF COURSE STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO DRIVING AROUND. IT'S BECOMING A BIG PROBLEM WITH, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, SAFETY. YOU SEE KIDS GOING, YOU KNOW, UP A HILL POPPING A WHEELIE, NO HOLDING ON, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THAT STUFF WHERE, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN A RURAL AREA. YES. I RODE MY BIKE EVERYWHERE, BUT I WASN'T ON MAIN STREETS. THESE KIDS, A LOT OF THEM ARE ON SOME OF THE BUSIEST STREETS IN LARGO.AND I'M LIKE, GREG, I'M WAITING FOR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE PERFECT STORM OF THE PERFECT OF THE TEENAGE DRIVER WHO IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO SPEED. IT JUST TAKES ONE DEER OR A DEER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMETHING TO, FOR PEOPLE TO FINALLY BE LIKE, OH MY GOSH, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? BUT PEOPLE WILL BLAME THE DEER WILL SETTLE IT IN THE END. BUT YEAH, THE BIKES GIVE KIDS BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU JUST RODE A BIKE AND YOU HAD A CAR COMING, YOU KNEW YOUR ABILITY TO GET BY. THAT CAR IS RIGHT. YOU'RE PRETTY SLOW. THESE BIKES GIVE THESE KIDS THIS CONFIDENCE LEVEL THAT THEY CAN SHOOT ACROSS. THEY'VE GOT HORSEPOWER NOW. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S FOR SURE SOME SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT BADLY, AND THEN THE CITY WILL HAVE TO REACT BECAUSE SOMEBODY REALLY GOT HURT. YEAH. IT'S IT'S HAPPENING. YEAH. YEAH.
IT'S I MEAN, IN FACT, I WAS IN. YEAH. THIS ISN'T A PROBLEM. I WAS AT MY GRANDSON'S BASEBALL GAME YESTERDAY AND. LEANDER SAME THING. JUST ZOO, ZOO, ZOO. AND THIS IS LIKE ONE OF THE BUSIEST STREETS IN LEANDER, RIGHT AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELDS. I MEAN, THERE'S CONSTANT PEOPLE COMING OUT. I MEAN, BUT IT'S JUST AND I GET IT. LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, WE WERE ALL KIDS. WE DID THINGS WE. BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK NOW IT'S WE ALSO LIVE IN A WORLD.
AND I'M NOT TRYING ON A SOAPBOX. PEOPLE ARE ON THEIR PHONES. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, THE KIDS ON THE BIKES ARE STILL ON THEIR PHONES. I MEAN, THERE'S YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR STUFF.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING WITH REGARD TO THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS OUR PURVIEW RIGHT ON THIS COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANYTHING WE WOULD WANT TO ADVOCATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO HELP MITIGATE THAT? I THINK HE BROUGHT I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS, LIKE HE SAID EARLIER ABOUT PUTTING OUT CAMERAS IN CERTAIN AREAS. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO CATCH THE VANDALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IF IF THAT IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I MEAN, JUST THROWING THINGS OUT THERE, I'M LIKE, PUT A FREAKING COP ON A GOLF CART ONE DAY AND HAVE HIM DRIVE THE COURSE, YOU KNOW, DURING HIS WORK HOURS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'LL TAKE A COUPLE TICKETS OF TRESPASSING BECAUSE YOU'RE TRESPASSING AT THAT POINT. AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TEARING UP THE COURSE, THAT'S DAMAGING CITY PROPERTY, CITY PROPERTY AT THAT POINT. AND SO THERE'S THINGS THAT I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO ADVOCATE FOR IT FIRST. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SEE WHAT GREGORY HAD IN GOING, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING IT. I THINK IT'S JUST IT'S I'D SAY IT'S LESS THAN TEN KIDS.
IT'S THE SAME KIDS I SEE IN THEIR BIKES. THERE'S A HERD OF THEM. YEAH, YEAH. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S MORE THAN ABOUT TEN MAYBE. AND WHICH MAKES IT, I THINK, EASIER. THE POLICE AREN'T DUMB. THEY KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE, AND THEY CAN JUST SEE THEM JUST START HARASSING A LITTLE BIT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO GET DEEPER INTO, MAYBE IF IT'S NOT OUT OF LINE, LET'S INVITE THE POLICE CHIEF TO COME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. AND I THINK THAT'D BE I'D BE ALL OPEN FOR THAT AND JUST SAY LIKE, WHAT? WHAT CAN WE DO AS CITIZENS? WHAT CAN WE DO TOO? IT'S LIKE, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WE JUST, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR FOCUS ON HOW THIS AFFECTS THE GOLF COURSE AND NOT JUST TRAFFIC. NO, NO, I AGREE WITH THAT. AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING OUT FROM TO BEGIN WITH, IS THAT WHEN I SAW THOSE KIDS ON THE 18TH HOLE, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WHEN I PLAYED, I SAW THE MARKS, YOU KNOW, ON THE HOLE WHERE THEY TORE IT UP. I MEAN, THAT TO ME IS, OKAY, THAT'S VANDALISM. YOU'RE TAKING IT NOW TO A NEW LEVEL. IT'S ONE THING FOR YOU TO BE AND THIS IS STILL DANGEROUS. YOU KNOW, WE
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WERE ON 16. AND ANY OF US WHO PLAYED THAT COURSE, YOU CANNOT SEE DOWN THE HILL ON 16 COMING DOWN THE HOUSES ON THE ON THE RIGHT. I HIT A BALL THAT WAS RIGHT STRAIGHT DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SIDEWALK OR I MEAN THE CART PATH ON THE LEFT SIDE. AND THEN HERE COMES A KID UP AND I WAS LIKE, COULD I HIT THE KID IN THE HEAD? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE HIM HIT BY A BALL OF HIS. YEAH. IT HURTS. I'VE HIT JASON. BUT I MEAN, THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, YOU KNOW, NO, NO, THAT'S A THAT WAS A LONG STORY. WAS IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.IT WAS CLEAR. SORRY. BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EDUCATION THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE POLICE CHIEF COMING OUT AND JUST OR THE CITY COMING OUT AND SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO THAT HAVING HIM COME SO HE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR US. LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO? BECAUSE TO ME, IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S NOT. GO AHEAD. MIKE, I THINK YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING. WHEN YOU SAID THAT OCCASIONALLY A POLICE OFFICER THERE JUST IT WOULDN'T TAKE TOO OFTEN FOR SOME KID TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN ISSUE AND HIS PARENTS GET INVOLVED AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND THEN IT SPREAD AMONG THE KIDS, RIGHT? SAY, HEY, THEY'RE WATCHING US KIND OF THING. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE TOO MUCH. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTROL IT BEFORE 5:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. YEAH, I JUST LIKE I SAID, IT'S I WANT I'D LOVE TO SEE KIDS OUT, YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I'VE HAD FIVE DAUGHTERS AND I'VE SEEN HOW SOCIAL MEDIA HAS TAKEN OVER BECAUSE MY OLDEST 34, 35, MY YOUNGEST IS 19. SO I WAS THERE WHEN SOCIAL MEDIA REALLY KICKED. AND SO I SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF TAKEN OVER. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE KIDS OUT DOING STUFF. BUT THAT BEING SAID, HAVE FUN RIDING YOUR BIKE, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE ON THE GOLF COURSE, RIGHT? AND TO BE HONEST, THAT GOES FOR WALKERS TOO. I MEAN, I ALMOST HAD A WALKER WALKING UP THE CART PATH WHEN I DIDN'T SEE HIM. I MEAN, IT'S I MEAN, THERE ARE SIGNS THERE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE YOU CAN DO THERE.
SIGNS THAT DON'T YOU CAN'T. YOU'RE NOT ONLY PAID GOLFERS OR WHATEVER ELSE, BUT MY DEAL WITH THAT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, YEAH, HAVING HAVING A POLICE OFFICER OR SOMEBODY GIVING YOU A WARNING AND THEN THE NEXT TIME GIVING YOU A TICKET, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT ONLY TAKE A COUPLE TIMES BEFORE. OH, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE ON THE GOLF COURSE. THAT'S NOT AN AREA WE NEED TO BE AT. RIGHT. SO. SO MAYBE WE DO. MAYBE WE DO, YOU KNOW, WORK, REACH OUT TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND JUST ASK. ASK HIM TO COME AND WE'LL, YOU KNOW, ASK THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. SO I CAN DO THAT. I'LL REACH OUT TO HIM. ANY OTHER OPEN DISCUSSION? NO, I JUST LIKE TO ADD WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EDC EARLIER AND, AND PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AND JUST KIND OF REVIEWING AGAIN WHAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. THERE, THERE IS SOME CONNECTION WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WITH THE GOLF COURSE DOES AND, AND THE, THE ROLE AND MISSION OF THOSE TWO GROUPS. AND IN FACT, THE EDC SPECIFICALLY CAN OR MAY, AMONG THE THINGS THEY MAY DO IS TO FUND LAND, BUILDINGS, EQUIPMENT, FACILITIES, TARGETED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, IMPROVEMENTS FOR SPORTS AND ATHLETIC FACILITIES. OH, COOL. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE GOLF COURSE. AND WHERE WOULD THOSE REVENUES COME FROM TO COVER, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN ALSO, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY MORE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE GOLF AROUND THE GOLF COURSE ASSOCIATED WITH GOLF COURSE, JUST TO GET THE PUBLIC MORE INVOLVED? AS GAGE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT PARKS AND RECREATION, YOU KNOW, IS, IS A POTENTIAL PARTNER WITH YOU IN DOING THAT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT MEETING I HAVE DOWN
[IV.4. Consideration and possible action regarding GCAC future meeting dates.]
FOR APRIL 28TH. DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT DATE? DO YOU NOT? I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN.THAT'S FINE. I MEAN. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT DATE. I LOOK AT THAT I HAD YOU. OKAY. SO OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON 428. I WILL MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE HERE.
I'LL BE IN WORKING IN HAWAII. OKAY, SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD GIG. I'M JUST SAYING
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THAT'S ONE OF THE THREE DAYS THAT I'M WORKING MY BUTT OFF. I AM TAKING TWO VACATION DAYS WITH MY WIFE. AWESOME. 28TH. WELL, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. I'LL HAVE TO RESCHEDULE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE A PROBLEM. I THINK WE'LL HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE HERE. SO. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND, SECOND. ALL* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.