May 12, 2026 Economic Development Corporation

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RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO CALL TO ORDER. THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION REGULAR MEETING MAY 12TH. WE'RE GOING TO DO A CALL TO ORDER JUST IN LOUNGE CHAIR. I AM HERE, DON JOHNDROE, VICE CHAIR HERE. DAVID VAN LARKIN, SECRETARY HERE. COREY WRIGHT IS NOT HERE. RUSSELL MURPHY HERE. JEFF FLOODING HERE. AND JOHN AUTRY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT AS WELL. STAFF LIAISON ERIC ZENO IS NOT HERE IN HIS PLACE. MISS SANDOVAL NO. YEAH. WHAT IS IT NOW. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING

[III.a. Routine reports from City Council Liaison.]

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M JUST I LOVE THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE IN REGARD TO THE COUNCIL. I WILL JUST PUT A REMINDER THAT WE ARE HEADED INTO BUDGET SEASON. AND SO ANYTHING THAT THIS. BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION TO INCLUDE ANY. YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL USE OF FUNDS, ETC.

ALL OF THAT WILL NEED TO BE CONSIDERED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. FINAL BUDGET CONVERSATIONS WOULD BE WHEN CHARLES GOING INTO AUGUST, FOR SURE, JUNE, JULY, END OF JULY, WE WILL FINALIZE THE. OKAY. SO THAT LETS EVERYONE KNOW WE'VE GOT 1 TO 2 MORE MEETINGS BEFORE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS NEED TO BE PUT FORWARD. I BELIEVE WE HAVE. I THINK WE HAVE AN ITEM IN HERE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A PACKED FULL MEETING, AND I'M SURE I AM ON HAND HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO ANY INSIGHT THAT I CAN PROVIDE Y'ALL IN REGARD TO WHAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE ADVISED ME TO TELL YOU. SO REALLY, I BELIEVE THAT IS IT FOR NOW FROM ME. THANK YOU.

[III.b. Routine reports from City Staff.]

[III.c. Routine reports from Chamber of Commerce. - Executive Director, Allison Sargent]

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WE PARTNERED WITH THE TWO DIFFERENT BIKE SHOPS IN TOWN, LIFT AND BIKE REPAIR, AND THEN WE HAD THE ESD ONE AND POLICE AND THE PO ALL COME DOWN AND SPEAK. WE HAD 16 KIDS AND SOME EXTRA PARENTS, SO PROBABLY ABOUT 30 PEOPLE SITTING IN THE PAVILION DOWN THERE. AND IT GAVE THEM A PIZZA AND DRINKS AND CERTIFICATES AND BACKPACKS FULL OF GOODIES AND STICKERS TO SAY THAT THEY COMPLETED THE COURSE. REALLY JUST KIND OF A INTRO TO ALL THE BIKE STUFF.

AND WE HAD KIDS FROM 5 TO 15 YEARS OLD, SO AND THEY ALL RODE BIKES THERE, AND THEN THEY ENDED UP RIDING AROUND A LITTLE BIT TOO. AND THEN WE HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING THIS WEEK AND A SPEED NETWORKING EVENT THIS THURSDAY AT BROKEN CHAIN TATTOO AND THEN AT THE ISLAND. AND THEN NEXT WEEK WE HAVE OUR BACKSTAGE PASS LUNCH WITH CAPTAIN CAPTAIN PETE'S. AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE'RE HAVING A WOMEN'S ONLY NETWORKING EVENT OUT ON A BOAT.

SO THAT'LL BE FUN. AND THEN WE'VE GOT A ANOTHER BRUNCH MIXER AT THE END OF THE MONTH ON THE 28TH. SO JUST LOTS OF, LOTS OF LITTLE GET TOGETHERS FOR ALL OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR US. AWESOME. SOUNDS GREAT. THAT'S WONDERFUL.

[IV.1. Presentation on E-Bikes and Motorized Scooters from PD Sergeant Peralta.]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. ERIC THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. SO WE'VE BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS FOR A WHILE. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS WON'T BE THE END OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE. I'LL TALK AT THE VERY END ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT STEPS. AND SO ELECTRIC BICYCLES IS NOT A UNIQUE PROBLEM FOR LAGO VISTA. MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES AROUND THE NATION ARE SUFFERING FROM THIS. AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WHY WE'RE WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN, WHY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE WE JUST SUDDENLY HAVE THIS E-BIKE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY SELL SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT'S LEGAL TO DRIVE. AND JUST LIKE ALL GOOD PARENTS, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR KIDS HAPPY. AND SO THE KID WANTS THE BIGGEST AND THE AND THE BEST VEHICLE OUT THERE. AND SO THEY, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE. SO IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL. I THINK FROM THE CHILDREN OR FROM THE PARENTS, THIS IS A THIS IS A MATTER OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON HOW TO BE SAFER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WE'RE APPROACHING THIS. WE'RE NOT APPROACHING THIS FROM A STANDPOINT THAT WE NEED TO GO OUT AND START IMPOUNDING BIKES AND WRITING A BUNCH OF TICKETS. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. AND AT ANY POINT, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, DON'T DON'T HESITATE TO STOP ME. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE LAWS ARE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING SPECIFICALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS NOT UNIQUE, BUT WHAT ARE WE FACING? WHAT ARE OUR OFFICERS SEEING? AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES THAT HAVE HAPPENED ACROSS THE NATION ON E-BIKES. SO FIRST OF ALL, THE DEFINITION OF ELECTRIC BICYCLE IS E-BIKE IS THE SAME THING AS A BICYCLE, EXCEPT IT HAS A MOTOR. NOW E-BIKE IS VERY SPECIFIC IN THE TRANSPORTATION CODE. IT CANNOT BE MORE THAN 750W, AND IT CANNOT GO AN ASSISTED SPEED OF MORE THAN 28MPH. SO JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS 28MPH DOESN'T MEAN AN E-BIKE CAN'T GO FASTER. OBVIOUSLY, IF A IF A PERSON CAN PEDAL AN E-BIKE FASTER, THAT'S THE ASSISTED SPEED. ONCE THAT E-BIKE REACHES A SPEED OF 28, THE MOTOR WILL KICK OFF AND WILL NOT ASSIST ANYMORE. SO IF YOU'RE GOING DOWNHILL, YOU CAN GET UP TO 40 MILES AN HOUR.

IT'S THAT 750W THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'LL GO DOWN. THEY'LL BUY 300 ZERO WATT BIKE BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST, AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR KIDS. AND WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS THEY'RE JUST MADE THAT ILLEGAL TO DRIVE ON THE ROAD. THERE'S THREE BASIC CLASSIFICATIONS OF E-BIKES. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT THERE'S A STICKER ON.

THAT'S REQUIRED ON ALL E-BIKES. IT'LL EITHER SAY CLASS ONE, CLASS TWO OR CLASS THREE. THE CLASS ONE IS ONE THAT YOU HAVE TO PEDAL IN ORDER FOR THE MOTOR TO KICK IN, AND IT GOES ONLY A SPEED OF 20. A CLASS TWO E-BIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PEDAL. YOU CAN OPERATE IT WITH JUST THE MOTOR. AND IT ALSO HAS A TOP SPEED ASSISTED SPEED OF 20. AND THEN THE CLASS THREE IS THE ONE

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YOU SURE CAN. THERE'S NOTHING, NO STATE OR MUNICIPAL LAW THAT PROHIBITS THAT. THE ONLY THING THAT PROHIBITS A BICYCLE OR AN E-BIKE, BECAUSE IT'S THE EXACT SAME LAWS, IS THEY CAN'T BE RIDDEN ON A CONTROLLED ACCESS HIGHWAY. SOME MUNICIPAL AREAS HAVE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THERE FOR E-BIKES, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES ARE, BUT THEY DON'T RESTRICT THEM ON THE ROADWAY. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT E-BIKES AND BICYCLES, THIS IS NOT JUST AN E-BIKE PROBLEM, BUT E-BIKES AND BICYCLES. IT'S THE SAME PROBLEM. THEY DON'T OBEY THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS. IT'S FUNNY HOW SOMEONE RIDING A BICYCLE, THEY WANT TO THEY WANT THEIR RIGHT TO THE ROADWAY, WHICH THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE ROADWAY. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A RED LIGHT, THEN THEY WANT TO GET ON THE SIDEWALK AND RUN THE RED LIGHT. WELL, THEY CAN'T DO THAT. SO THEY HAVE TO OBEY THE SAME TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SIGNS. THEY HAVE TO YIELD THE RIGHT OF WAY WHEN IT'S REQUIRED. THEY HAVE TO YIELD RIGHT OF WAY TO PEDESTRIANS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO RIDE ON THE SIDEWALKS, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO YIELD THE RIGHT OF WAY TO PEDESTRIANS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE. YOU NEED TO RIDE AT A SAFE SPEED NEAR PEOPLE. AND THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE PROBABLY WE HAVE WITH BICYCLES AND E-BIKES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE LAW SAYS YOU MUST RIDE TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE ROADWAY AND YOU CAN ONLY RIDE TWO ABREAST. YOU CAN'T RIDE 15 OF THEM TAKING UP THE ENTIRE ROADWAY, SO YOU CAN'T RIDE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ROADWAY. YOU HAVE TO RIDE ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THE ROADWAY. AND THAT'S NOT JUST CHILDREN, BY THE WAY. A LOT OF TIMES, ESPECIALLY ADULTS WHO THINK, WELL, I HAVE A RIGHT TO THE ROADWAY. YEAH, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RIDE TO THE FAR RIGHT SO THAT A CAR CAN PASS YOU SAFELY, AND THEY WANT TO RIDE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LANE. THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. THE TWO ABREAST IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH OUR CHILDREN WITH E-BIKES. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, THE LAW REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE BRAKES THAT CAN MAKE THEM STOP. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STEER. IF THEY'RE DRIVEN AT NIGHT, THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE A LAMP THAT CAN BE VISIBLE FOR 500FT ON THE REAR. THEY HAVE TO HAVE A REFLECTOR RED REFLECTOR THAT CAN BE VISIBLE FOR 300FT, OR A RED LAMP THAT CAN BE VISIBLE FOR 500FT, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE REFLECTORS THAT CAN BE VISIBLE FOR THE SIDE. AND THAT'S AT NIGHT. THERE IS A STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES THERE'S A MAXIMUM AGE THAT YOU CAN'T RIDE THAT CLASS THREE, THAT ONE THAT GOES 28 MILES AN HOUR UNLESS YOU'RE 15 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. SO THAT IS STATE LAW.

ABSOLUTELY. HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'D BE A MINIMUM AGE. SO 15 AGE FOR CLASS THREE INSTEAD OF A MAXIMUM. DOES IT SAY MAX. NO, NO, IT SHOULD BE MINIMUM. OKAY.

AT THE TOP SLIDE SHOULD SAY MINIMUM AGE FOR CLASS THREE IS 15 AGE OR OLDER. CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS, NO LICENSE REQUIREMENTS. SOME

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IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE COULD REGISTER A CLASS THREE E-BIKE.

AND THEY SAY IT'S FOR MY 16 YEAR OLD KID, SO IT SOUNDS GOOD. AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO THE GARAGE AFTER THEY'VE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY, AND THEN THEY MANIPULATE THE E-BIKE, WHICH MANUFACTURERS OF THESE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT ALL THE TIME. LAST NIGHT AT THIS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SPONSORED EVENT, THERE WERE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY ILLEGAL. YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE FOR AN E-BIKE. SAME RULES FOR BICYCLE BACK TO LIKE THE SAFETY THING OF THEM BEING 15. I LOVE THAT. LIKE, HOW IS I'M SORRY, IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE THE 15 YEAR OLD OR 16 YEAR OLD BE THERE WHEN THEY REGISTERED? SO IF YOU IF THE PARENTS SAY THIS IS WHO IT'S FOR, HAVE THAT KID BE THERE TO RECEIVE THAT SAME EDUCATION. AND I MEAN, SIGN OFF OR CHECK OFF SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED IT. I MEAN, SORT OF LIKE A STICKER LICENSE OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, I LOVE THE SAFETY ASPECT OF IT. I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY OF ACCOMPLISHING THAT. AS I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE A CITY ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES ANY REGISTRATION, SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO DO THAT. NOW, IF THE CITY COUNCIL WAS WANTING TO PASS AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT, THEN THEY COULD REQUIRE THAT THE CHILD RIDING WOULD BE PRESENT. THAT'S WHATEVER THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO.

BUT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY RULES LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY OF DOING THAT. I'LL EXPLAIN AT THE END WHAT OUR EDUCATION APPROACH IS GOING TO BE. SO ELECTRIC BICYCLES DO NOT MEET THE DEFINITION OF A MOTOR VEHICLE, SO THEY CAN RIDE ON SIDEWALKS, AND THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY PROHIBITED BY CITY ORDINANCE. HOWEVER, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE YOUR PO, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED ON ON PRIVATE PROPERTY UNLESS THE OWNER ALLOWS IT. PO HAS CURRENT RESTRICTIONS THAT SAY NO E-BIKES ARE ALLOWED. AND SO YESTERDAY, MY OFFICER WE DON'T WE DON'T ENFORCE LAWS ON PO. THAT'S A PO RULR THE SAFETY EVENT RIDING ON PO PROPERTY, WHICH THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM DOING SO. AND THAT'S ACCORDING TO PO THAT WE MADE CONTACT WITH THEM TO VERIFY. BUT THAT'S THE ONE PROBLEM WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT TRAILS, A LOT OF TRAILS ARE OWNED AND THEY CAN PROHIBIT A LOT OF TRAILS BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE FOR PRIMARILY FOR PEDESTRIANS OR FOR BICYCLISTS WILL PROHIBIT MOTORIZED TYPE VEHICLES, WHETHER THAT'S A SCOOTER OR BICYCLE MOTOR, AN E-BIKE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S UP TO WHOEVER OWNS THE TRAIL. AND SO WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THAT JUST BECAUSE THE LAW, CITY AND STATE LAWS MAY SAY SOMETHING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO RIDE ON A TRAIL THAT'S OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE, YOU NEED TO CHECK IN TO WHAT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE. YES, SIR. A QUESTION I WAS POKING AROUND AT THE CURRENT ORDINANCES AND IF THE CITY HAD TRAILS, THIS IS NOT A SCENARIO THAT MATTERS ENOUGH RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL. THE CITY HAS TRAILS. I BELIEVE IT DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO DESIGNATE THAT THEY CAN BE USED FOR E-BIKES. ET CETERA. SO IS THAT A ROUTE THAT YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH FROM PRIOR BACKGROUND WHERE LIKE THERE'S CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT CLEARLY DEFINES THAT? YES, YOU CAN USE E-BIKES HERE. SO WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO THE ORDINANCES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ORDINANCES THAT WOULD PROHIBIT IT AT THIS TIME. I THINK THAT MY ADVICE, IF IT WERE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ASK FOR IT WOULD BE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE TRAIL. AND SO IF YOU LITERALLY HAVE A TRAIL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3FT WIDE AND IT'S PRIMARILY FOR HIKERS, PEDESTRIANS, I WOULD SAY PROHIBITING AN E-BIKE THAT CAN GO 28 MILES AN HOUR WOULD PROBABLY BE WISE. IF YOU'VE GOT A TRAIL THAT'S TEN FEET WIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE AS BIG A DEAL. IT DEPENDS ON YOUR VOLUME. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAGO VISTA, TEXAS. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TOWN LAKE IN AUSTIN THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, SO, SO MANY PEOPLE, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE USING IT TODAY THAT THAT WOULD BE MY ADVICE, LOOKING AT WHAT'S THE VOLUME OF PEDESTRIANS ON IT AND WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE TRAIL? THANK YOU. HERE THERE ARE LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT ADDRESS E-BIKES. AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE. THIS FIRST ONE HERE REALLY IS MEANINGLESS. 12.5 IN OUR LOCAL ORDINANCES IS JUST REITERATION OF WHAT STATE LAW IS. IT'S A GOOD REMINDER, BUT IT REALLY HAS NO POWER AND AUTHORITY BECAUSE IT'S EXACTLY WHAT STATE LAW SAYS. YOU CAN'T RIDE ON A BICYCLE OR BE A PASSENGER UNLESS THERE'S A SEAT PROVIDED. SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE USED TO DO WHEN CHARLES AND I USED TO DO WHEN WE WERE KIDS AND RIDE ON THE HANDLEBAR, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS LAW WHEN WE WERE KIDS. THE THAT WITH THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES ARE THE ONES THAT WERE MENTIONING NO MORE THAN TWO ABREAST. THAT'S STATE LAW, BUT THAT'S ALSO IN OUR ORDINANCES. AND THEN THE REQUIREMENTS AT NIGHT ARE THE EXACT SAME AS THE STATE LAW THAT I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED. AND IT HAS TO BE EQUIPPED WITH A BRAKE. THOSE ARE ALL STATE

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WE'VE GOT I'VE GOT VIDEO AFTER VIDEO WHERE MY OFFICERS ARE TALKING TO 1015 E-BIKES THAT ARE RIDING, TAKING UP THE ENTIRE ROADWAY. Y'ALL PROBABLY WITNESSED THIS OR EXPERIENCED IT. WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, WE'VE GOT E-BIKES THAT ARE RIDING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE ROADWAY. THEY'RE DRIVING TOO FAST ON THE SIDEWALK AND NOT YIELDING TO PEDESTRIANS. THEY'RE DRIVING RECKLESSLY. WE WITH WHEELIES. WE'VE HAD ONE SERIOUS INJURY OF A CHILD WHO WAS RIDING A WHEELIE AND RAN INTO A MAILBOX. WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THAT CHILD, WHICH WE ALL DO, PROBABLY BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT THE WRONG WAY AND GOT HURT, IS WHEN YOU'RE IN A WHEELIE, YOU HAVE NO STEERING WHATSOEVER, SO IT'S JUST HARD TO CONTROL. AND SO WE HAVE CHILDREN. THIS IS NOTHING NEW. I MEAN, WE ALL FELL DOWN ON OUR BICYCLES. THEY'RE DOING THAT NOW. IT'S JUST WE FELL DOWN AT THE SPEED THAT WE COULD PEDAL AT. NOW THEY'RE THEY HAVE THIS MOTOR ASSISTED SPEED, WHICH GETS THEM A LITTLE FASTER. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE WEAVING IN AND OUT OF TRAFFIC. THEY GET A LITTLE OVERCONFIDENT. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE ALWAYS I ALWAYS HAD WITH BICYCLES AND E-BIKES IS IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE THAT AGE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN AGE TO GET A DRIVER'S LICENSE. AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO MAKE JUDGMENTS AND DECISIONS. AND IT'S REALLY HARD FOR A CHILD TO KNOW, LOOK AT A CAR COMING AND THEY CAN MAYBE KNOW WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT CAR IS GOING THE SPEED LIMIT AND BE ABLE TO JUDGE, AS WE DO EVERY DAY WHEN WE'RE DRIVING, IS IT SAFE TO CROSS AND WE CAN SEE THE CLOSING DISTANCE AND HOW FAST THAT VEHICLE IS GOING AND KNOW IF IT'S SAFE? CHILDREN DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE AND MATURITY YET.

AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM. SO WHAT WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF E-BIKES? THIS IS THIS IS ONE POTENTIAL PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID. SO THIS HAPPENED LAST MONTH IN FOREST LAKE FOREST, CALIFORNIA. WE HAD A 81 YEAR OLD VIETNAM VETERAN NAMED ED ASHMAN, WHO WAS HIT AND KILLED BY A 14 YEAR OLD RIDING ON AN E-BIKE, DOING A WHEELIE, AND AS A RESULT, HIS MOTHER WAS CHARGED IN THE CRASH. THE LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAID THAT THIS AMERICAN HERO WAS KILLED BECAUSE A 14 YEAR OLD CHILD AND THE MOTHER WAS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN TEXAS. I'VE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED CASES WHERE PARENTS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND AND CHARGED SIMILARLY, AS THIS PARENT WAS, WHEN THEY PROVIDE ALCOHOL TO A MINOR, WHEN THEY DO DANGEROUS THINGS AROUND A MINOR, PROVIDING WEAPONS, ALL KINDS OF THINGS. DAS IN TEXAS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING AND CHARGED PARENTS FOR THIS. SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS CALIFORNIA, THIS CAN HAPPEN HERE. AND SO THIS

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TODAY. WE HAVE PEOPLE JUST LIKE MR. ASHMAN IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE WALKING THEIR DOGS AND OUT EXERCISING, AND WE HAVE CHILDREN OUT THERE RIDING E-BIKES UNSAFELY AND ILLEGAL BIKES UNSAFELY. AND SO WE DON'T WANT THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO US. SO THE WOMAN WHO'S GOING TO FACE THESE CHARGES, HER SON, IS GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS. AND THEN THE VICTIMS FAMILIES WHO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE DEATH, THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT. SO WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEPS? WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT INFORMATION SIMILAR TO THIS PRESENTATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

LOTS OF OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE THAT AS WELL. TO TRY TO AVOID THESE KIND OF TRAGEDIES. WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THAT OUT. WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING A A TRUE BICYCLE SAFETY COURSE, WHERE WE WILL ACTUALLY SET UP A COURSE, PREFERABLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, IF THEY'LL IF THEY'LL COOPERATE WITH US, WHICH I THINK THEY WILL, WE'LL PUT UP WHAT WE WE USED TO CALL THESE BICYCLE RODEOS WHEN I WAS A KID, WHERE THE POLICE OFFICERS WOULD TEACH YOU THE RULES OF THE ROADWAY AND HOW TO SAFELY CROSS INTERSECTIONS, AND HOW TO DRIVE SAFELY AND PUT UP SOME CONES SO THAT THEY CAN NAVIGATE AND STAY ON AND LEARN THE RULES OF THE ROADWAY. THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL WILL BE, IS TO HELP OUR PARENTS AND OUR CHILDREN BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THIS SAFELY, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS AS AS VISIT MR. ASHMAN AND TELL HIM HIS FAMILY HE'S NOT COMING HOME TODAY. WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR ME? I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING OUR COMMUNITY IS TALKING ABOUT A LOT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IN GENERAL OUR ROADS ARE UNIQUE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF HILLS. WE HAVE A LOT OF BLIND TURNS. I'VE EVEN SEEN MOUNTAIN BIKERS TRYING TO GET UP A HILL AND A BOAT, TRYING TO GET AROUND THEM ON A TWO LANE ROAD. AND I WAS LIKE SWEATING A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW? SO YOU COMBINE MOTORIZED VEHICLES AND, YOU KNOW, PACK OF PEOPLE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS AND IT CAN GET DANGEROUS FOR SURE. MY, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROMOTE A CULTURE OF SAFETY. I THINK THAT THAT'S THE BEST APPROACH. SO I LOVE THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE GOING. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LOT MORE OF THIS IN THE FUTURE. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE BIKES, ESPECIALLY AFTER CHRISTMAS. YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET ONCE WE GET PAST CHRISTMAS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE NEW SET OF KIDS OUT THERE. I'M SURE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEW BIKE SHOPS. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THE EDC. ONE REASON WHY I THINK THAT THIS PERTAINS TO TO US IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME TRAIL INITIATIVES AND SOME THINGS TO BE ABLE TO LINK THE CITY TOGETHER AND TO MAKE THIS A PLACE THAT THAT IS SAFE AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME DIRECTION FOR PEOPLE COMING IN THAT WANT TO ENJOY THE OUTDOOR LIFESTYLE. SO IT'S DEFINITELY A GREAT INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. NO BIG QUESTIONS, BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY BEFORE WE MOVE ON. SO I'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE APPROACH ON OR LET ME BACK THIS UP. A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED, AND SOMETIMES IF THE SOLUTION IS UNREASONABLE, BUT IT'S A VALID SOLUTION, THAT'S ENOUGH TO KIND OF BRING SOMEONE BACK INTO REALITY. THAT BEING SAID, I'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE APPROACH ME WITH, OH, WELL, HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO TO LEGALIZE ONE OF THESE BIKES. YOU CAN ADD THE BLINKERS, YOU CAN DO THIS AND YOU CAN GO GET IT REGISTRATION. YOU CAN ADD A VIN NUMBER, WHICH IS FROM WHAT I CAN TELL. TRUE, BUT WHAT AN ARDUOUS TASK. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE KIND OF BEEN POKING AROUND WITH. DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT? I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, BUT FOR SOMEONE HAS A LEGALIZED ONE OF THEIR MOTOS INTO A ACTUAL REGISTERED VEHICLE,

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IT'S NOT IT'S THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOLF, GOLF CARTS HERE. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THAT WE PARENTS ARE LETTING THEIR UNDERAGE CHILDREN DRIVE GOLF CARTS. THAT'S ILLEGAL AS WELL. NOW IN OUR COMMUNITY ON ON LOW SPEED ROADS, YOU CAN DRIVE A GOLF CART, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE. AND SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A GOLF CART WITHOUT A DRIVER'S LICENSE. SO I THINK IT POINTS TO THE BIGGER ISSUE IS, IS IT'S NOT THE REGISTRATION'S ISSUE, IT'S THE UNDERAGE AND IT'S THE, THE SPEEDS THAT THESE MOTOR VEHICLES WILL GO. THAT'S THE REASON WHY THERE'S AN AGE LIMIT.

WE DON'T WANT 12 YEAR OLDS DRIVING SOMETHING THAT CAN GO 60 OR 70 MILES AN HOUR. THE THOUGHT PROCESS I HAVE HERE IS IF IT'S SOMETHING OFFERED AS LIKE A. HERE IS THE. HERE'S THE EDUCATIONAL PACKET OF HOW YOU COULD GO ABOUT IT. AND THE FIRST THING I SEE IS THE AGE REQUIREMENT. YOU LIST ALL THESE REASONS THAT ARE THE REAL PROBLEM. IF THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING FOR THEIR SOLUTION ANYWAYS, YOU CAN JUST GIVE IT TO THEM, BUT THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY EDUCATE THEM ON WHY IT'S AN ISSUE RATHER THAN FEELING LIKE IT'S JUST A THEY'RE TELLING ME THINGS. YEAH, THE E-BIKE AND MINIBIKE AND MOTOR DRIVEN BICYCLE, IT IS SO CONVOLUTED BECAUSE MANUFACTURERS ARE CREATING MORE AND MORE STUFF EVERY DAY. I WOULD NOT EVEN WANT TO GO DOWN THE TRAIL OF WHAT IT TAKES TO REGISTER ONE OF THOSE. I HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH ENOUGH CARS THAT YOU COULDN'T REGISTER FOR YEARS, SO I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO WORRY ABOUT MOTOR DRIVEN CYCLES. I WOULD IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME THAT.

I WOULD SAY, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING REGISTER, JUST BUY SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU BUY IT OFF THE LOT, IT COMES WITH A TAG AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO I GUESS LONG TERM AND, AND FORGIVE ME, ARE KIDS BEING TICKETED NOW OR PARENTS BEING TICKETED? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO EDUCATE AND THEN START TAKING IT TO KIND OF GET THAT OFF THE ROADWAYS IN, IN THE, IN THE LONG RUN? OR WHERE, WHERE ARE WE AT AND WHERE ARE WE HEADED? OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW IS ALWAYS EDUCATION. FIRST, WE WANT TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, EDUCATE THE CHILDREN. HOWEVER, JUST AS WITH ANY VIOLATION OF THE LAW, YOU LOOK AT THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH THE VIOLATION WAS COMMITTED, THE NUMBER OF PRIOR VIOLATIONS AND THE DEGREE OF THE OFFENSE. OBVIOUSLY, IF IF I TELL YOU WE'RE NOT WRITING TICKETS AND TOMORROW, ONE OF OUR CHILDREN ON AN E-BIKE INJURES OR KILLED SOMEONE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION. SO IT HAS TO BE THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE OFFENSE. IF WE'VE WARNED SOMEONE 7 OR 8 TIMES AND THEY'RE STILL VIOLATING THE LAW, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WRITE THEM A TICKET AND AND IMPOUND THEIR BIKE. BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW IS EDUCATION. AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVEN'T ISSUED A SINGLE E-BIKE TICKET YET. WE HAVE NOTIFIED SOME PARENTS AND HAD THEM COME PICK UP THEIR CHILD, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, CHIEF JOY. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

ABSOLUTELY. OH, ALLISON, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAD KIND OF PLANNED WITH SERGEANT PERALTA. WHEN YOU PUT US IN TOUCH, LIKE A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO, AND I ASKED HER TO PRESENT IT AT OUR OUR THING, OUR JOINT THING.

I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHY. WHY DIDN'T YOU? BECAUSE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING TO HAVE. WELL, A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT, THAT I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT OFFLINE. OKAY. ONE WAS THE LOCATION. I CAN'T SHOW A POWERPOINT WHERE THAT WAS AT. THE OTHER IS THE AUDIENCE. THIS THIS PRESENTATION IS MADE FOR ADULTS. WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING TO CHILDREN, YOU DO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRESENTATION. YOU DON'T I DON'T GO INTO THEY DON'T CARE WHAT THE MUNICIPAL LAWS ARE. I JUST NEED TO TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO. SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE AUDIENCE LAST NIGHT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR CHILDREN. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY TAILORED THE CONVERSATION TO WAS CHILDREN. AND SO THERE WAS NO WHERE YOU HAD THIS. THERE WAS NO PLACE TO DO A PRESENTATION. I DID CALL HER AND ASK IF WE NEEDED TO BRING OUR PRESENT, OUR PROJECTOR AND OUR SCREEN. AND SHE'S LIKE THAT YOU HAD A PRESENTATION BUT WEREN'T GOING TO DO IT. SO I JUST WAS CONFUSED BY THAT. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALL THE PARENTS STAYED AND THEY WERE KIND OF LOOKING FOR THIS. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T GET THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING. SO YEAH, WE CAN TALK LATER. THAT'S FINE. WE WILL BE PUTTING THIS ON PIECES OF THIS, NOT THE ENTIRE THING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

OKAY, SO THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL RULES ARE, THEY'LL BE OUT THERE.

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[IV.3. Presentation by Tom Mullins, T.G. Mullins Consulting on operation of EDC without dedicated funding.]

I CAN. OKAY. IT'S THAT. OKAY? YOU ARE CURRENTLY MUTED. YOU ARE NOW UNMUTED. THIS IS A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY WE'VE HAD. BEAR WITH US FOR A SECOND. OH. YOU GOT IT. CAN YOU TEST? CAN YOU TEST YOUR MIC NOW? CAN YOU TEST ONE MORE TIME? SAY IT AGAIN. OH WE GOT YOU. WE HEAR YOU. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION WAS, WILL YOU BE SHARING YOUR SCREEN NOW? THANK YOU. I'M JUST ANSWERING. I WAS ASKED TO BE ON. ON VIRTUALLY WITH YOUR BOARD TODAY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT FUNDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUPS. OKAY. SO WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I'M GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA HERE TO KIND OF SEE IF WE HAVE A WAY TO PROMPT YOU A LITTLE MORE ON

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BUT ROCHESTER IS ALSO THE HOME OF THE MAYO CLINIC, A VERY HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL, TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN MEDICAL SERVICE COMMUNITY. AND TYLER AT THE TIME WAS SUFFERING AS ALL OF TEXAS WAS FROM THE CRASH OF THE ENERGY SECTOR. AND THEY WANTED TO DIVERSIFY. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAD BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY SINCE WORLD WAR TWO BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND THEY HAD A INDUSTRIAL FOUNDATION. THEY OWNED SOME PROPERTY, BUT THEY WEREN'T THEY WEREN'T REALLY PREPARED AND EXPERIENCED TO COMPETE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IN FACT, THOSE OF US WHO GREW UP IN THE UPPER MIDWEST WOULD MEET SOME OF THE SOUTHERN ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS AT NATIONAL CONFERENCES BACK IN THE 80S AND 70S AND 80S AND KIND OF MARVEL AT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THERE WAS SO MUCH GROWTH IN THE SUNBELT THAT THE DEFINITION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS ANSWERED THE PHONE BECAUSE IT WAS RINGING OFF THE HOOK.

COMPANIES WANTING TO GET AWAY FROM THE FROST BELT TO THE SUNBELT, FROM LABOR, LABOR STATES TO WORK, WORK, RIGHT STATES. AND TEXAS WAS GETTING ITS SHARE OF GROWTH, ALTHOUGH STILL DEPENDENT ON OIL AND GAS. AND WHEN THAT SECTOR COLLAPSED, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO COMPETE FOR JOBS. SO WE STARTED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP WITH 22 MEMBERS AND ABOUT $150,000 IN PLEDGES. AND WHEN I RETIRED IN 2020, THE ORGANIZATION HAD 122 INVESTORS OR MEMBERS AND A $10 MILLION BALANCE SHEET. AND AS AS WE MENTIONED JUST A MINUTE AGO, I NOT ONLY DID THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WHICH COVERED TYLER AND SMITH COUNTY, WHICH IS AN MSA OF 230 000, IT'S THE LARGEST POPULATION CENTER EAST OF DALLAS BETWEEN DALLAS AND SHREVEPORT. AND. I ALSO DID THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH IS A 2200 MEMBER CHAMBER, AND THE VISITORS BUREAU. WE HAD IT ALL IN ONE STRUCTURE IN TYLER, AND I WAS THE CEO OF THAT STRUCTURE. SO. THE QUESTION IS, CAN CAN A COMMUNITY YOUR SIZE IN LOOKING AT YOUR COMMUNITY PROFILE TODAY, I SAW YOU'RE YOU'RE ABOUT YOU'RE PUSHING TEN 000 POPULATION. CAN YOU GO AND, AND PUT TOGETHER A MEMBERSHIP DRIVE THAT CAN FUND A FULL TIME EDC

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WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PUT THAT KIND OF A STRUCTURE TOGETHER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HELP YOU PURSUE THAT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU TOOK YOU TOOK A RUN AT TRYING TO PASS A HALF CENT SALES TAX FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. MOST OF OUR SALES TAX IS CURRENTLY ALLOCATED TO OUR WHAT IS CALLED CAP METRO OR OUR TRANSPORTATION.

WE HAD A POTENTIAL VOTE THAT WE COULD HAVE TAKEN. WAS IT 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO IN ORDER TO EXIT CAP METRO, PROVIDE A DIFFERENT A SEPARATE TRANSPORTATION TO FILL THE NEEDS AND THEN RECAPTURE THAT TAX BASE. AND SO BASED ON THAT, WE STARTED EXPLORING THE EDC TYPE B IN ORDER TO BE READY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS SPECIFICALLY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES UP EVERY I THINK IT'S EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO WE'RE ABOUT MIDWAY THERE. AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S QUITE A BIT THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN. BUT UNTIL WE GET THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SMALLER SCALE, I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON SOME OF IT SOUNDS LIKE EXPLORATION BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TODAY, BUT. WITH THAT, WE WOULD HAVE A STRUCTURE, WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECTS UNDER OUR BELT. THEN IF INDEED THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RECAPTURE SOME OF THAT SALES TAX, THEN WE CAN FURTHER EXPAND OR SCALE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS HERE LOCALLY. SURE. IT'S A VERY COMMON MODEL. AND AS THE STATE LEGISLATURE SET UP TWO TYPES, TYPE A, WHICH IS MORE TRADITIONAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN TYPE B, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO DO MORE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC INVESTMENT. AS I SAID, THAT'S THE TYPE THAT TYLER WENT WITH. WE CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY. WE WE DID THE MARKETING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKED WITH RETAINING AND EXPANDING LOCAL COMPANIES, HELPING COMPANIES START. WE HAD TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC SECTOR. IF WE WERE GOING TO USE INCENTIVES SUCH AS ENTERPRISE ZONES OR TAX INCREMENT FINANCE AND TAX ABATEMENT. WE ALSO OPERATED TWO REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS, WHICH WE CAPITALIZED WITH FEDERAL GRANTS THAT PROVIDED SUPPORT FOR SMALL BUSINESS STARTUPS. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE AND I UNDERSTAND JUST FROM ONE OF THE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A CONSULTING GROUP THAT YOU WORK WITH MCCOY CONSULTING. AND IS THERE SOMEONE REPRESENTING MCCOY THERE TODAY? SHE'S ACTUALLY ONLINE. I THINK SHE'S ON THE. YOU'LL SEE A BEAST. WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, TOM. I CAN SEE A C D YEAH. IS THAT HER? CBC IS BRITTANY MCCOY AND MCCOY CONSULTING. AND SO YES, SHE CAN HEAR US. OKAY. SHE IS PRESENT BECAUSE SHE'LL BE SHE'LL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION RIGHT AFTER YOU HERE. AND I'M NOT SURE I'VE MET BRITTANY.

BRITTANY, HAVE WE MET LIKE AT ANY OF THIS TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MEETINGS? NO, SIR, WE HAVEN'T. OKAY. BUT YOU DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSULTING. AND SO YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS WITH ERIC. YES, BUT PRIMARILY JUST TO FIND GRANT FUNDS JUST FOR GRANT FUNDING. OKAY. YES, SIR. WELL, AND ERIC ASKED ME IF I WOULD CONSIDER CONSULTING WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW. I'VE RESTRICTED MY CONSULTING PRACTICE TO NORTHEAST TEXAS JUST BECAUSE I'M I'M NOT WANTING TO DRIVE 4 OR 5 HOURS IN ANY DIRECTION AT THIS POINT IN MY CAREER, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HELP VIRTUALLY AND LONG DISTANCE AND, AND IF AND IF YOU STILL NEED SOMEONE, THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES CLOSE TO YOU THAT DO THE KIND OF WORK THAT I DO THAT I THINK WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU OUT. BUT TODAY I WAS JUST ASKED TO BE WITH YOU TO ANSWER ANY BASIC QUESTIONS YOU HAD. TOM, WE DO HAVE A QUESTION HERE FROM RUSS. GO AHEAD. SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE. YOU MENTIONED HAVING INVESTORS. IS THAT THE SAME GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT WERE PAYING MEMBERSHIP FEES OR. YES, YES.

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AND KEVIN AND I WORKED TOGETHER FOR 30 YEARS TRYING TO DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY OF TYLER AND SMITH COUNTY. AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE FASTEST GROWING, MOST DIVERSE ECONOMY IN ALL OF EAST TEXAS AND ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I GUESS FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS WITH THE MEMBERSHIP FEES THAT THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT WHAT'S WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM? WHAT ARE THEY GETTING IN RETURN? IS IT MORE THAN WHAT YOU JUST WENT OVER IN THEIR DESIRE TO SEE THE AREA SUCCEED? OR WAS THERE WHAT ELSE WAS INVOLVED? WAS THERE MARKETING PACKAGES OR WHAT? WHAT WERE YOU DOING? YEAH, THEY WERE THEY WERE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO INDIVIDUALS AND COMPANIES WHOSE BUSINESS AND DIRECTLY WOULD BENEFIT FROM A STRONG ECONOMY. THEY ALL WENT THROUGH THE DOWNTURN OF THE 80S AND THEY LOST BUSINESS. SO THEY REALIZED THAT TYLER HAD TO GROW ECONOMICALLY. AND SO THEY WERE INVESTED IN IT FROM A FROM A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE. AND IF THEY BENEFITED, IT WAS JUST THEY BENEFITED FROM GROWTH THAT WAS GOING ON AS A RESULT OF OUR ACTIVITIES. BUT THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY BENEFIT DIRECTLY, ALTHOUGH SOME OF SOME OF THE MANUFACTURERS THAT WE WORKED WITH, TRAINED AIR CONDITIONING NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS ARE IN TYLER. WE DID A NUMBER OF EXPANSIONS WITH THEM. THEY'VE BEEN MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP FOR SINCE ITS INCEPTION BACK IN THE LATE 80S. BUT WE DID THAT AS A SEPARATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. THEY THEY DIDN'T BELONG BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GET INCENTIVES. THEY WANTED THEY WANTED TO BE PART OF HELPING THE TOWN GROW. THANK YOU. TOM, I'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR YOU TOO.

WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE OR PERSPECTIVE ON AN EDC CREATING ANY KIND OF BUSINESS IDEA? I COULD COME UP WITH SOME EXAMPLES, BUT THINK OF A STARTUP OR A DAY USE OR SOMETHING THAT GENERATES ANY KIND OF REVENUE. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, AN EDC INVESTING INTO SOMETHING THAT CREATED CONSISTENT REVENUE FOR THE CORPORATION? YEAH, I MEAN, I KNOW, I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING THAT CAN AN EDC INVEST IN SOME KIND OF A REVENUE GENERATING GENERATING PROGRAM? THE WE DID IT IN A SORT OF WE ENDED UP OWNING THREE BUSINESS PARKS AND OPERATING TWO REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS. AND WE MADE REVENUE FROM ALL OF THOSE. BUT WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IF AN EDC DECIDES TO SET UP A, A THRIFT STORE OR SOME OTHER KIND OF REVENUE GENERATING OPERATION, THAT'D BE THAT'D BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MODEL, YOU'LL SEE THAT MORE COMMONLY IN URBAN AREAS WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GROUP OPERATING SOME KIND OF A BUSINESS THAT GENERATES REVENUE LIKE THAT. EDC IS IN TEXAS ARE PRIMARILY FUNDED, THOUGH, BY THE TYPE A OR TYPE B SALES TAX, OR BY MEMBERSHIP GROUPS LIKE THE ONE THAT I OPERATED. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SEND THE INFORMATION ON THOSE TWO REVOLVING FUNDS TO ERIC ZENO? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. NO, IT'S A RISK THING.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S BACKGROUND, BUT YOU NEED TO SET UP FUNDS. I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A 500 ZERO FOOT VIEW OF THAT SO THAT YOU'RE THE YOU'RE A PARTICIPANT IN THE LOAN STRUCTURE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH SBA, SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION FINANCING AND THE 504 FIXED ASSET LOAN PROGRAM. BUT THE STRUCTURE IS BASICALLY A 5040 TEN STRUCTURE, 50% SBA, 40%, THE EDC, 10% THE THE ENTREPRENEUR AND THE EDC PORTION IS FIXED, A FIXED RATE AND SUBORDINATES TO THE BANK. SO THE BANK LIKES IT BECAUSE

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THANK YOU. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE HAVING A GOOD WEALTHY BASE OF PEOPLE THAT NEEDED THAT DIVERSIFICATION WAS A HUGE ASSET AT THAT TIME. AND THEN YOU WERE ABLE TO CREATE THE LEVERAGE AGAINST THE, THE CASH THAT WAS ALREADY THERE AND THEN CREATE THE, THE GRANTS TO BE ABLE TO REALLY GET MOVING IS WHAT I HEARD. YEAH. THOSE ARE ALL PIECES OF IT. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE BASIS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT'S ERIC'S BACKGROUND IS, HAS HE GONE THROUGH THE, THE BASIC TRAINING AND THE COURSEWORK FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? YES. WE'VE ALL BEEN KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT AS WE'VE CREATED THE EDC HERE. WE'VE, YOU KNOW, HAD SOME ADVICE FROM FROM SOME LAWYERS AND FROM OTHER PEOPLE. BUT YEAH, WE'RE KIND OF LEARNING AS WE GO TOO. I DON'T KNOW. SO THERE'S SOME EXCELLENT TRAINING IN TEXAS. A AND M LEADS IT. THE TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS HEADQUARTERED IN AUSTIN, A GUY NAMED CARLTON SCHWAB, I'M PRETTY SURE ERIC PROBABLY KNOWS CARLTON. THEY THEY WORK TOGETHER WITH A&M TO PUT THESE PROGRAMS ON. AND IT'S IT'S A BASIC COURSE. AND THEN THERE ARE FOLLOW UP COURSES AT THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA. BUT IT GIVES YOU THE FUNDAMENTAL INFORMATION OF HOW TO OPERATE AN EDC. AND WHAT ARE THE COMPONENTS OF SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES.

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HEY, TOM, THIS IS CHARLES WEST. WE WORK TOGETHER UP HERE IN LINDALE. WHEN WE GOT TARGET AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS UP THERE IN THAT AREA. WELL, THAT WAS THE OTHER CONNECTION. CHARLES, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THEY FORM THIS, THEY'VE HAD A EDC BRANCH OR A EDC TITLED POSITION WITHIN THE CITY STRUCTURE THAT'S JUST FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND RECENTLY THEY INCORPORATED AND CREATED A, THE CORPORATION, AN EDC CORPORATION. AND YOU'RE NOT, BUT YOU'RE NOT A TYPE A OR B, YOU'RE JUST AN EDC 501, C SIX OR C FOUR. NO, WE WE INCORPORATED AS A TYPE B.

THEN AGAIN YOU CUT OUT TYPE A, TYPE B, TYPE B. OKAY. SO OKAY. YEAH. AND I, I'VE BEEN HERE EXACTLY ONE YEAR WHEN THEY STARTED TELLING ME ALL OF THIS, YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON THAT COME TO MIND BECAUSE I REMEMBERED TYLER DIDN'T. TYLER USED THEIR SALES TAX FOR OTHER THINGS SINCE Y'ALL WERE UNFUNDED THERE. BUT Y'ALL WERE VERY CREATIVE IN HOW YOU DID THINGS. AND I CAN SEE US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT HERE, JUST ON A SMALLER SCALE. SURE. YEAH. WELL, AND THERE'S SOME GREAT RESOURCE PEOPLE RIGHT AROUND YOU. A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE ON THE CITY COUNCIL, ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, JONESTOWN AND CHARLES, YOU MIGHT HAVE MET HIM WHEN YOU WERE UP HERE. HE WORKED WITH ME AT THE TYLER EDC, ERIC DAVIS.

AND HE HELPED ME PUT TOGETHER THAT TARGET DISTRIBUTION CENTER PROJECT IS, AS YOU RECALL, WAS $85 MILLION AND 1000 NEW JOBS AND A REAL GAME CHANGER FOR LINDALE. BUT ERIC IS LITERALLY ACROSS THE LAKE FROM YOU GUYS IN JONESTOWN. HE'S NOT EVEN ACROSS THE LAKE. HE'S NEXT DOOR TO US. OH, IS IT THAT CLOSE? THAT CLOSE? AND I KNEW THE NAME SOUNDED FAMILIAR. AND THEN I NEVER PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER UNTIL YOU MADE THAT CONNECTION. THANK YOU. YEAH. CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? ACTUALLY, I JUST HAD A MEETING WITH ERIC DAVIS, LIKE YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE. SO NORTH LAKE TRAVIS CHAMBER REPRESENTS JONESTOWN AS WELL. AND SO I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO YOU SIMULTANEOUSLY RAN THE CHAMBER AND THE EDC AND THE VISITOR'S BUREAU. YEAH. SO WE ARE. I'M WONDERING HOW. SO WE HAVE THE SAME SETUP HERE, BUT IT'S I'M WONDERING, HOW ARE YOU DOING MEMBERSHIPS WITH THE EDC WITHOUT COMPETING AGAINST THE CHAMBER? IF IF WE ARE SEPARATE BY THRESHOLD, THE CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP IS ABOUT $450 FOR AN AVERAGE MEMBERSHIP. NOW, THERE'S SOME LARGER EMPLOYERS THAT PAY MORE, BUT THE EDC MINIMUM MEMBERSHIP IS $2,500. SO ALMOST 100% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE EDC ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER. OKAY. BUT SMALLER COMPANIES CAN AFFORD A 2500 OR LET ALONE A 25,000 MEMBERSHIP, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE PART OF THE CHAMBER. I SPENT MY TIME 70, 30, 70% EDC, 30% CHAMBER AND VISITOR'S BUREAU, AND I HELPED RAISE MONEY THROUGH MEMBERSHIP DRIVES FOR THE CHAMBER AND THE CHAMBER MEMBERS FELT THEY WERE GETTING A BENEFIT, EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO INVEST IN THE EDC. THEY WERE GETTING A BENEFIT BECAUSE THE CEO, MY POSITION WAS WORKING FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. THE CHAMBER IS A 501 C SIX, THE EDC IS A 501 C THREE, AND THE VISITOR'S BUREAU WAS A DIVISION OF THE CHAMBER. NOW, RECENTLY, SINCE I RETIRED, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE CITY OF TYLER BECAUSE 100% OF IT OF ITS MONEY COMES FROM THE HOT TAX, WHICH IS ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY. ALTHOUGH THE CHAMBER STILL DOES THEIR PAYROLL PAYROLL FOR THEM. SO THERE IS SOME SOME ASSOCIATION AND PROVIDE SOME

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HAVE I KNOWN ABOUT IT? I'VE GONE. BUT, I MEAN, THAT AREA IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND I KNOW YOU'RE GROWING. THAT WHOLE AREA IS GROWING. AND IT'S IT'S IT'S GETTING A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM THE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN AUSTIN. AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A DEBATE FOR YOU GUYS, TOO. YOU'VE YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY DECIDED YOU WANT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP, EVEN THOUGH I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN YOUR TOWN BECAUSE IT'S LESS COSTLY AND IT'S HAS A SMALL TOWN FEEL TO IT THAT IF IF THEY WERE ASKED, WOULD YOU WANT TO GROW TO A LARGER METROPOLITAN AREA, A LOT OF YOUR CITIZENS WOULD SAY, NOT REALLY. BUT HERE'S THE REALITY IF YOU'RE NOT GROWING, YOU DON'T STAY THE SAME. YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP ON FEEDING GROWTH INTO THE ECONOMY.

BECAUSE AS I'VE TOLD PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS IN MY COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS, COMMUNITIES ARE LIKE THE LIFE CYCLE. THERE'S BIRTH, THERE'S MATURITY, THERE'S DEATH. YOU NEED TO KEEP ON STIMULATING GROWTH BECAUSE THERE'LL BE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT LEAVE OR COMPANIES THAT FAIL OR MOVE ON THAT YOU CONSTANTLY NEED TO BE REPLACING THEM. SO HAVING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY IS IMPORTANT. BUT I KNOW SMALLER COMMUNITIES A LOT OF TIMES DON'T WANT TO GET TOO BIG. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, TOM. I CAN TELL YOU THAT. WELL, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF A SPONGE TO A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, TRYING TO KIND OF PROCESS IT AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY FORWARD. SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT ERIC REACHED OUT THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE TO BE ABLE TO, TO DISCUSS WITH US. AND CHANCES ARE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, HOW CERTAIN THINGS MIGHT WORK OR MIGHT LOOK LIKE AS AS THOSE IDEAS COME TO FRUITION AND WE CONSIDER THINGS. SO WITH THAT, ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY BEFORE WE MOVE ON? DON? YES. HI. YOU MADE A MENTION JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO OF THE USE OF HOT TAX. YEAH. COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ABOUT THAT? WELL, YOU KNOW, IN ITS FUNDAMENTAL FORM, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX CAN BE USED TO PROMOTE TOURISM, RIGHT? IN, IN YOUR IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND THERE ARE A VARIETY OF THINGS YOU CAN DO TO, TO BRING TOUR GROUPS IN, TO BE BRING CONFERENCES IN SO YOU GET HEADS IN BEDS, AS THEY CALL IT. AND SO SUPPORT THE HOTEL MOTEL INDUSTRY. AND, YOU KNOW, TYLER, BECAUSE IT'S IN A PRETTY PART OF THE STATE AND, AND YOU GUYS ARE BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE STATE.

SO EVERYBODY THINKS THEY'RE PRETTY, I GUESS, BUT IT'S, IT ATTRACTS A LOT OF CONFERENCES AND CONVENTIONS. BUT ONE OF MY PET PEEVES OVER THE YEARS IS THAT TYLER IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF RESORT STYLE CONFERENCE CENTER HOTEL. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MINI FAMILY REUNION AT BARTON CREEK WHEN I WAS DOWN THERE LAST MONTH. ■HUGE CONFERENCE FACILITIES. I'M SURE ALL OF YOU AROUND THE TABLE THERE HAVE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES. TYLER NEEDS SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY AN HOUR AND A HALF FROM 9 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE DALLAS

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YOU GUYS HAVE A BUSY AGENDA AND I APPRECIATE GETTING TO KNOW YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, TOM. ALL RIGHT. AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY GOODBYE TO RUSS. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. WE'LL CATCH YOU LATER. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. ON TO. BRITTANY WITH THE MCCOY

[IV.2. Presentation on May grant updates from McCoy Consulting.]

I WILL START BY SAYING THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT I LOOKED AT THIS MONTH AND LAST MONTH, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. SO WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO. SO BOTH FROM THE EDC STANDPOINT AND FROM THE CITY AS APPLICANTS. I KNOW WE HAVE A FULLY DISCUSSED THAT YET, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT GIVEN WE HAVE THE TIME, BUT AS WE ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE 501 C SIX QUALIFY FOR THAT THE CITY DOESN'T. AND SO IT JUST GIVES US MORE OPPORTUNITY. WELL THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THIS WAS FOR THE MONTH OF MAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE T MOBILE HOMETOWN HOMETOWN GRANTS. AGAIN THERE'S A COUPLE OF NEW ONES, PRIMARILY TWO, THREE AND SIX. YOU GUYS MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN. PERFECTLY FINE. AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO THE TABLE THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THAT WOULD STILL CREATE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR LAGO VISTA. SO I WANTED TO THROW THOSE OUT THERE. SO FOR T MOBILE, THE AARP AND LOWE'S AND THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE WILL STILL BE FOCUSED ON A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS, SAME THINGS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, SUCH AS THE BUILD OUT OF THE CIVIC CENTER, TRYING TO CREATE THAT TRAIL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, OR AT LEAST COMPLETE IT. SOLAR LIGHTING AT SUNSET PARK AND ON THAT ON THAT TRAIL AS IT'S BEING BUILT OUT, IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS FOR YOU GUYS, BUT THE MAX FOR THE T MOBILE GRANT IS 50,000. AND THIS ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS ALMOST YEAR ROUND, BUT THEY DO IT IN WINDOWS. SO WE APPLIED FOR THE LAST WINDOW AND THEN THE NEXT ONE CLOSES JUNE 30TH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO RESUBMIT THEIR. YOU CAN APPLY AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT TO EVEN IF YOU'VE BEEN FUNDED. SO IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT I WOULD BE WORKING ON WAS GETTING LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO SUBMIT WITH THAT, JUST TO SHOW THE NEED. AND THEN SOMETHING I DO WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS ABOUT. IT CAN BE A YES OR A NO. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, I BELIEVE IS WHERE THE BUDGET IS KIND OF A DRAFTED BUDGET. YEP. IF YOU GO DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE AND YOU

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IT ALWAYS CARRIES WEIGHT AND GIVES YOU A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING. SO MY THOUGHT WAS, IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT WE COULD SECURE SOME VOLUNTEERS, YOU CAN ALSO PUT THAT IN THE APPLICATION AS A FORM OF MATCH BECAUSE IT IS LABOR OR VOLUNTEER LABOR. SO MY THOUGHT THERE IS JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD ADD IN THERE TO HELP OUR CHANCES WITH THE NEXT GO ROUND. BRITTANY, TWO QUICK QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE. AS FAR AS THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT MOVES THE NEEDLE IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO GET MORE PEOPLE FROM A CENTER OF INFLUENCE, OR DO WE WANT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RESIDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A GOOD GOAL FOR US THERE? AND THEN KIND OF THE SAME QUESTION ON THE VOLUNTEERS TOO, LIKE WHAT, WHAT SHOULD WE PRESENT TO YOU TO PASS ALONG THAT THAT WOULD HELP OUR CHANCES THERE? I WOULD SAY FOR SURE, WITH GRANTS FOR LIKE T MOBILE AND AARP, THEIR BIGGEST FOCUS IS COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACES AND CREATING EQUAL SPACES FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY OF ALL AGES. AND SO I WOULD THINK AN EQUAL PART OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND EXECUTIVE LEADERS WOULD BE EQUAL FOR THE T MOBILE GRANT. SO USUALLY I WOULD SAY THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER, EITHER OR BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT MEMBER WOULD BE REALLY GOOD OR THE CHAMBER DIRECTOR. BUT YEAH, IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD AS WELL TO GET SOME FROM SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BECAUSE IT'S FOR THEM TECHNICALLY. I BELIEVE THE MINIMUM IS THREE, BUT YOU CAN SUBMIT UP TO FIVE. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT TOO. AND IT'S REALLY JUST SHOWING THAT OTHER THAN THE APPLICATION IN THE WORDS WE PUT IN THERE, THERE'S MORE BEHIND IT TO SHOW HOW PEOPLE TRULY FEEL ABOUT IT AND WHY IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED AND WANTED. AND THEN ON THE VOLUNTEERS, HOW SHOULD WE PRESENT THAT? CAN, CAN WE SHOW THE LEVEL OF WORK THAT THOSE VOLUNTEERS WOULD BE WILLING TO DO, OR JUST THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED? FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY HAS EQUIPMENT TO ACTUALLY MOVE, YOU KNOW, MORE DIRT TREES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

OR ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT ABLE BODIES AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON PAPER TO PRESENT? YEAH, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY WITH THAT AS WELL. SO IF THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO HAD, LIKE I SAID, FOR EXAMPLE, EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER TIME, THEN WE COULD PUT A LARGER DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THIS MATCH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE LABOR THAN HIRING SOMEONE AT MINIMUM WAGE TO JUST HELP AND BE EXTRA HANDS, YOU KNOW, GATHER TRASH OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY I KIND OF WANTED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH Y'ALL TO SEE IF YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING HIGHER END, IF NOT PERFECTLY FINE. IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, FIVE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE HIGH SCHOOL AGE OR MAYBE YOUNGER JUST TO BE THERE TO HELP GATHER THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, AS THE CITY'S MAYBE CLEARING THE LOT FOR THE PROJECT IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN.

OBVIOUSLY, DAVID, A QUESTION WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER. THANK YOU. I KNOW A BUNCH OF CONTRACTORS, BUT I MYSELF HAVE A COMPANY, AND I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN THIS FIELD AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, AM I ABLE TO VOLUNTEER? OBVIOUSLY NOT CHARGE VOLUNTEER THOSE SERVICES AS AN IN-KIND MATCH, OR WOULD THAT NEED TO BE FROM NON BOARD MEMBERS? IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT'S IN YOUR BYLAWS. SOME ORGANIZATIONS PUT IN THEIR BYLAWS THAT ANYONE WHO'S A BOARD MEMBER CANNOT BENEFIT FINANCIALLY. THERE'S A SPECIFIC TERM. IT'S NOT COMING TO ME, BUT THAT'S THE GIST OF IT. BUT IF THAT'S NOT IN YOUR BYLAWS, THEN YOU CAN THAT'S JUST GO READ IT AND TALK TO THE ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF YOU NEED ME TO LOOK AT IT, I WILL, BUT I FORGET YOU GUYS HAVE AN ACTUAL ATTORNEY. SOUND LIKE THAT QUESTION TOO, WAS IF LET'S SAY DAVID WANTED TO VOLUNTEER FOR A DAY TO BRING OUT A SKID STEER OR SOMETHING, AND, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD PROVIDE HIS NORMAL INVOICING THAT HE WOULD WRITE OFF AS THE VALUE THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THAT VOLUNTEERING. SO NORMALLY, LET'S SAY THAT DAY WOULD BE A $5,000 DAY OR A $10,000 DAY OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. I HAVE NO CLUE. BUT HE'S GIVING HIS TIME AND HIS EQUIPMENT FOR FREE. OR MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER CONTRACTOR THAT WANTS TO DO THE SAME. CAN WE SUBMIT THAT THOSE VOLUNTEER HOURS WITH THAT VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS A AS A PART OF. YES, SIR. OKAY. GOT IT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S DONE IN A LOT OF NONPROFIT SITUATIONS WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ONE FOR A SHELTER WE'RE WORKING ON AND THE PERSON WHO DID THE PARKING LOT AND THE SIDEWALK VOLUNTEER BECAUSE HE HAS A CEMENT COMPANY. SO HE'S VOLUNTEERING THE EQUIPMENT THAT THE COST OF THE EQUIPMENT, THE LABOR THAT HE WOULD HAVE CHARGED, WHATEVER HIS HOURLY RATE IS, OR PER

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IT DOES NOT PAY FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION. AND THE DEADLINE IS UNTIL NOVEMBER 1ST. WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. THERE'S NO MATCH REQUIREMENT, BUT YOU CAN GET UP TO $40,000.

AND SO MY THOUGHT WAS TO DO SOMETHING TO ENGAGE THE YOUTH, MAYBE GRADES SIX THROUGH NINE.

THIS WOULD JUST BE A LIMITED OPPORTUNITY OR ACTIVITY, OF COURSE. AND SO YOU'LL SEE UNDER C WITH THE NARRATIVE, I LIKE TO TRY TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE WHERE A GAP IS AND WHAT THIS PROGRAM OR PROJECT WILL COVER. SO 38% OF STUDENTS QUALIFY FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH, AND THEN SENIORS LACK TRANSPORTATION IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S JUST A SMALL PART OF WHAT WOULD QUALIFY YOU GUYS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND THIS WOULD JUST BE TO GET THEM ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN OUT IN NATURE, OF COURSE. SO THAT WOULD BE NATURE IMMERSION TRIPS AND COMFORT CONSERVATION SERVICE PROJECTS. OF COURSE, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT THERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL VIEW TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST AND IF SO, I CAN BUILD THAT OUT FURTHER. NO, THAT'S DEFINITELY INTERESTING. I THINK AS WE LOOK INTO THAT OPPORTUNITY, WE MAY BE ABLE TO PARCEL THAT OUT ALONGSIDE ISD AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING WORTH DISCOVERING. OKAY, I'LL MAKE NOTE ON THAT ONE AND WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WOULD DO A RESOLUTION AND GET THAT SIGNED, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY I WENT AHEAD AND SENT THIS ON THE LIST SO EARLY ON. SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND THAT IS D AT THE VERY END AND PLENTY OF TIME TO GET A RESOLUTION. IF WE WERE TO NEED ONE FROM CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. AND NUMBER THREE AGAIN AS WELL, THIS WAY ON THE FIELD. BUT I DID ASK ERIC TO CONFIRM FOR ME ABOUT THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF BROWNFIELDS IN LAGO VISTA. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S BASICALLY A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT GRANT. SO IT PARTNERS BEING ABLE TO COVER THE COST OF DEVELOPING BROWNFIELDS WITH HIRING AND TRAINING PERSONNEL TO DO IT. SO IT WOULD CREATE JOBS. AND IT WOULD ALSO MAKE MORE OPPORTUNITY IN THOSE NON UNREMEDIATED, SMALL BROWNFIELD PARCELS THAT THE CITY OWNS. NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A WHOLE CURRICULUM THAT WILL BE BUILT INTO IT. AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND TALK Y'ALL THROUGH ALL OF THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE BUILT OUT WAY IN MORE DETAIL. BUT AGAIN, BEFORE I PUT UNNECESSARY TIME INTO IT, I WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING OF INTEREST. AND THEN WE COULD GO INTO MAKING A, YOU KNOW, A REALLY DETAILED PLAN, BUT JOB CREATION AND MAKING SOME USE OUT OF SOME LAND THAT CAN'T BE USED RIGHT NOW IS THE GIST OF IT. NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT ONE TOO. THAT'S REALLY GOOD. MAKE NOTE ON THAT ONE. OKAY, SO KEEP IT MOVING ON REAL QUICK ON THAT. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT USING LOCALS FOR THESE JOBS? WOULD WE GIVE PROJECTIONS OF HOW MANY LOCAL PEOPLE COULD BE USED? OR IS IT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS TRANSLATING WITH THE JOB CREATION IS THE ACTUAL JOBS. WHAT I WROTE UP IS THAT IT COULD TRAIN 60 PEOPLE, AND I CAN ALSO DO A WORKFORCE QUICK WORKFORCE ANALYSIS. I'M JUST MAKING A NOTE ABOUT THAT TO SEE LIKE WHAT THE DRIVE RADIUS IS. IF THAT'S 25 MILES 50 OUTSIDE OF LAGO VISTA OF WHAT KIND OF TALENT YOU GUYS COULD HAVE ACCESS TO. IF IT LOOKS LIKE LAGO VISTA ITSELF WOULDN'T HAVE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 60 PEOPLE INTERESTED OR SKILLED OR PLAN

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YEAH. UNDERSTAND THOSE BOUNDARIES WILL HELP A LOT, BUT I LIKE THE GIST OF IT FOR SURE.

OKAY. WELL, PERFECT. OKAY, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. WE'RE ALMOST THERE. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE AARP GRANT. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE THAN ONE. NORMA, DID YOU ALREADY TELL THEM ABOUT THE THE LAST ONE? BEFORE I OPEN MY MOUTH? ASK THAT AGAIN. BRITTANY, DID YOU ALREADY TELL THEM ABOUT THE THE OTHER AARP OPPORTUNITY BEFORE I KNOW DID NOT. OKAY. WE DID GET SOME CELEBRATION COMING.

OKAY. OH YES, WE DID GET A GRANT, BUT IT WON'T BE ANNOUNCED UNTIL JUNE, PER AARP.

SO YOU CAN'T PUT IT OUT THERE. BUT WE DID GET ONE. HOWEVER, YOU CAN KEEP APPLYING. THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE FUNDED ALREADY OR NOT. YOU CAN APPLY AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT TO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO APPLY AGAIN ANYWAY. DON'T KNOW DISTRIBUTION DATE ON FUNDS, BUT WE HAVE A MEETING, I THINK THE 29TH TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING OF THIS MONTH OF WHEN TO EXPECT WHAT.

BUT ANYWAY, SAME THING. IT WOULD BE FOR GETTING SOME SOLAR LIGHTING INSTALLED, GETTING SOME ADA COMPLIANT SEATING, SHADED BENCHES IN SUNSET PARK, AND THEN ALONG THE TRAIL THAT WE WERE HOPING TO CREATE. AND THEN I WANT TO SAY NUMBER FIVE WAS MY LAST ONE FOR LOWE'S.

NORMA ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS ONE TO MY ATTENTION IN THE PAST, WHERE THEY HAVE NOMINATION WINDOWS, WHERE YOU CAN NOMINATE A PROJECT SLASH COMMUNITY. AND SO IT REOPENS IN FEBRUARY.

AGAIN, SOME OF THESE ARE PROJECTED, BUT THAT WAY THEY'RE JUST ON THE LIST. AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO NARROW DOWN EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT THE APPROACH TO BE. SO THIS JUST GIVES US A LOT OF TIME TO DECIDE. AND THIS ISN'T DUE OR OPENS UNTIL FEBRUARY. SO MAX CAN BE $100,000. AND AGAIN, THAT COULD BE FOR SHADE INSTALLATION AT THE PARK AND ALONG THAT TRAIL AND FOR SOLAR LIGHTING. OR IF YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING ELSE IN MIND, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. AND THAT MIGHT BE IT ON THIS LIST. YOU MIND SCROLLING DOWN A LITTLE? OH, I LIED, I GOT ONE MORE. OKAY, THIS ONE IS ALSO A LITTLE MAY NOT BE INTERESTED, WHICH IS FINE. THIS IS THROUGH THE THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND IT'S ROLLING THROUGH 2028. SO YOU TYPICALLY THAT MEANS THEY'LL TAKE APPLICATIONS UNTIL THEY RUN OUT OF MONEY. SO UP UNTIL 2028, THIS IS A VOUCHER THAT PAYS FOR THINGS LIKE SOLAR LIGHTING AGAIN, FOR EXAMPLE. SO IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE SWITCH OUT THE LIGHTING FOR CITY HALL TO SAVE ON OVERHEAD, THEN IT WOULD PAY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. AND TYPICALLY THEY PREFER TO PAY FOR GOVERNMENT FACILITIES. AND AGAIN, THIS ONE IS COMPLETELY RANDOM, BUT I FIGURED I'D PUT IT OUT THERE. IT'S 90 K, NO MATCH, AND IT'S FOR COMMUNITIES WITH 5000 OR LESS RESIDENTS THAT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING. MAYBE THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST.

I FIGURE IF IT WOULD LEAD TO COST SAVINGS. CERTAINLY INTERESTING. I THINK IT DEFINITELY PLAYS INTO WHERE THE OTHER GRANTS ARE GOING AS WELL AS FAR AS THE SOLAR LIGHTING.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WITH THESE GRANTS HAVING GREATER PROJECT, A GREATER PHASED VISION OF WHY ALL THIS IS COMING TOGETHER IS GOOD. SO MAYBE THIS ONE PLAYS INTO THE STORY AS WELL. I'LL HAVE TO KIND OF PROCESS IT A LITTLE BIT AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVICE ON WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T. AS FAR AS THE CITY GOES LIBRARY, WE COULD USE THE MONEY. OH YEAH. EX POST FACTO. SO YEAH, LET'S, LET'S KEEP IT OPEN FOR NOW AND THEN. BRITTANY, I'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT WEEK CONNECT WITH YOU AS WELL ON, YOU KNOW, THESE ACTION ITEMS, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE BEST SHOT AT THESE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST AN FYI, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE STILL GETTING ALL THE DETAILS TOGETHER FOR THE EDC. I DID SHARE WITH NORMAN, WITH ERIC THAT I'M BUILDING A LIST TOO, OF GRANTS THAT THE EDC CAN APPLY FOR. AND YOU GUYS LET ME KNOW IF YOU WILL BE OKAY WITH THE EDC BEING A LEAD APPLICANT, BUT I'M JUST KEEPING A RUNNING LIST OF ONES THAT ARE COMING UP AT LEAST 4 OR 5 MONTHS DOWN THE LINE. SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK, OBVIOUSLY, AND JUST MISS IT. SO THEN THOSE ARE USUALLY SMALLER, BUT STILL LIKE THERE'S A FIREHOUSE SUBS GRANT FOR 5000. THE WALMART ALWAYS, ALWAYS HAS

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[V.1. Consider, discuss and take action on recomendation for EDC Planning funding.]

[V.2. Consider, discuss and possible action on Unified Development Code (UDC) Organizational Update by Development Services Director Jordan Strohmeyer.]

THREE AND FOUR WILL HOPEFULLY GO OUT BEFORE MAY 20TH AND THEN FIVE, WHICH IS THE BIG CHUNK OF THE UDC, WILL BE THE NEXT STEP FROM MAY TO JUNE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE IDENTIFIED TWO SECTIONS IN THE FIRST AREA THAT WE WILL NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. ONE OF THEM IS CURRENTLY YOUR REFERENCED IN OUR CODE STILL AS DAC. AS A ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO A FULLY FORMED EDC ATTORNEY WILL BE OUR ATTORNEY WILL BE DOING REVIEWS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND SO WE'LL LEAN ON HER FOR RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO GET THAT ORDINANCE CLEANED UP. THE OTHER THING, AND IT'S NOT A TODAY PROBLEM PER SE, AND PART OF THIS REORGANIZATION, BUT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, WHICH STILL VERY MUCH RELIES ON AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND NOT A FULLY FLEDGED EDC THAT HAS DIFFERENT POWERS AND AUTHORITIES. AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S NOT A TODAY CHANGE THAT WE NEED TO RUSH AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, BUT JUST TO PUT ON THE RADAR, NOW THAT WE ARE A FULL EDC, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE THE RULES? WHAT ARE THE PROCEDURES? I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER. IT'S KIND OF OPEN. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY DO IT. AND IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL ARE DOING THAT TO AN EXTENT AND GETTING SOME INFORMATION AND STUFF. AND SO IT MAY BE IN THE PROCESS AS YOU, AS A BOARD, FIGURE THIS OUT AND GET MORE INPUT FROM PEOPLE AND DISCUSSIONS, LIKE WITH TYLER, WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. MY ADVICE WOULD BE START THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE NOW WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE FIGURE OUT, HOWEVER WE FIGURE IT OUT. AND SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I. EDC IS NOT ALWAYS MY ROCK STEADY POINT. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS BECAUSE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE ALSO NEED SOME ADVISORS TO HELP DEFINE SOME OF THOSE SECTIONS. RIGHT. AND IS THAT KIND OF. THERE NEEDS TO BE UPDATES TO THAT. AND THERE'S NORMALLY PARTS, OKAY. WE WERE ASKED TO REORGANIZE AT A STAFF LEVEL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE NOT MAKING POLICY CHANGES. THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THIS FIRST SECTION. THE ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT IS WHEN THERE IS CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. AND SO PART OF THAT CONFLICT IS OUR CODE CURRENTLY REFERENCES YOU AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH YOU'RE NOT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. THAT IS MOSTLY LEGAL AND HOW LEGAL FEELS. WE NEED TO STRUCTURE THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE INCORPORATION PAPERS. AND THAT SUPERSEDES A POLICY TO AN EXTENT BECAUSE IT'S DONE AND THE STATE CERTIFIED ■IT AND IT IS WHAT IT IS. THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS FIGURING OUT, NOW THAT YOU'RE A FULL EDC AND AFTER WE ADOPT THIS REORGANIZED VERSION, WHAT IS YOUR PROGRAM LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE YOUR RULES? WHAT ARE YOUR REGULATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? AND SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT A TODAY ISSUE.

IT'S IN A SIX, NINE, 12 MONTHS. WHILE YOU'RE FIGURING OUT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND SO IF YOU LOOK THROUGH ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD, THERE'S ONE SPECIFICALLY

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IT WAS JUST A FOREWARNING MATERIAL IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE POSTED ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH IT. WE'RE STILL ON TRACK TO ADOPT SEPTEMBER, AUGUST, TIME FRAME, HOPEFULLY, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. BUT JUST TO PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR, I DON'T I LIKE TO MAKE BOARDS AWARE WHEN STUFF IS TECHNICALLY IN THEIR BACKYARDS. NO THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. I MEAN, PART OF, I MEAN, PART OF WHAT I QUESTIONED TOO IS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED A SEPARATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO DO THAT. RIGHT? OTHERWISE, IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE EDC POSITIONING ITSELF IN AN ADVISORY ROLE WITH THE CITY, SINCE IT IS NOW A CORPORATION? SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LINE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IF WE'RE DANCING AROUND IT OR WHAT, HOW THAT WORKS. WE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL WANT TO WORK TOGETHER AND BE SUCCESSFUL. YOU KNOW, WE WANT SUCCESSFUL VENTURES. SO I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT POSITIONING FOR SUCCESS.

BUT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, FROM A CITY OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS PROVIDING THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO YOU, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT. NORMA. THANK YOU. CHAIR. SO IN THIS ROUND, AS JORDAN WAS SAYING, EFFECTIVELY, WHEN WE WHEN THE EDC WAS CREATED, OUR ORDINANCES WERE NO LONGER RELEVANT. AND BY THAT IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOT LEGAL ACCORDING TO STATUTE. I GUESS IN TERMS OF HAVING DIRECTION FROM THE CITY, THE EDC AT THIS POINT IS STILL VERY MUCH CONNECTED TO THE CITY. AND SO WHAT THESE AND I'M LOOKING IN HERE, PAGE 38 WAS ONE OF THE SECTIONS. PAGE 72 WAS THE OTHER SECTION THAT JORDAN WAS MENTIONING WITHIN THE DOCUMENTS OF THE UDC. NOW, WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT WE HAVE A GREAT STAFF HERE THAT. IF WE DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO OPERATE OR EVEN MODEL ANOTHER CITY, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE THE DEVELOPMENT, THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT JORDAN DOES RIGHT HERE. BUT THERE MAY BE DECISIONS AS TO HOW YOU OPERATE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHO WE'RE CONNECTING WITH OR HOW, YOU KNOW, WE GO ABOUT DECISION MAKING AND WHERE WE INTERFACE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M MAKING STUFF UP.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. SO LIKE HOW YOU ESTABLISH YOUR FUNDING AND YOUR MEMBERSHIPS, THAT'S A HUGE PART OF THIS. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW YOU RECEIVE HOT TAXES.

THAT'S A HUGE THING TOO. WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? AND SO FROM A GENERAL STANDPOINT, THE POLICY IS SET AND STAFF AND THE ATTORNEYS WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE. BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO MODEL IT AFTER OR WHAT WHAT THE GOAL IS, WHAT YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE. AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S THE ASK IS JUST WHILE THIS VETTING PROCESS IS GOING THROUGH, JUST NOTING THOSE THINGS, HEY, I LIKE THIS. LET'S IMPLEMENT IT. HEY, THIS WOULD WORK GREAT. BUT FOR US, LIKE WAS MENTIONED, WE NEED TO SCALE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT. AND SO LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S WORTH MENTIONING NOW SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE THE END AND WE START TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL REVISIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FORMATION OF THE, OF THE EDC, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ADVISORY BOARD AND YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IMPLIED AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. AND AT THAT TIME, WE DECIDED EVERYTHING'S FOLDED INTO THE EDC. SO WE'LL NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TRANSITION WHATEVER REFERENCE IS IN YOUR CODE TO, TO REFLECT DIRECTLY THE EDC AND ALL OF THOSE POINTS. I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

YES. AND I THINK THIS ACTUALLY PLAYS INTO OUR OTHER DISCUSSION ITEM A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, THE BASIS OF WHAT WORKS IN OTHER CITIES AND MAYBE LEANING ON SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RFQS WITH THE CITY. AND SO WE'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN A SECOND. BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S GOOD FORWARD THINKING INFORMATION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF AND ADDRESSING IN A FOCUSED WAY. ABSOLUTELY. JUST NOTE, THERE'S NO NEED TO RECREATE THE WHEEL IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING AND YOU'RE LIKE, MAN, THIS IS THE BEE'S KNEES. JUST, JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW AND WE'LL GET IT SITUATED

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[V.3. Consider, discuss and take action to appoint members to an Economic Development Corporation (EDC) subcommittee to evaluate and initiate discussions with planning assistance firms, including but not limited to firms pre-qualified through the City’s Request for Qualifications (RFQ) process, for the purpose of supporting economic development planning, strategy development, and implementation.]

SURE. OKAY, COOL. IS THAT DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT TO ACTUALLY CREATE THE. OKAY. YES.

SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE YOU MAKE THE MOTION? I WANT TO THERE'S A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS. OKAY. I DID WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS VETTED SEVERAL OF THESE PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS. AND SO I DO HAVE A LIST TO BE ABLE TO GIVE TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE IN ORDER TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS TBA DOUGLAS, WHICH HAS PRESENTED TO, TO THE TO EDC IS ON THIS LIST. THEY'VE ACTUALLY COME FORWARD. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. JUST LIKE ANY OF OUR ENTITIES TO INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBERS IN THE MIDST OF CREATING THEIR PLANNING, THE EDC, IF THEY'RE PLANNING TO USE ANY EDAC FUNDS, ETC. I MEAN, HOT FUNDS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED TO DO BASICALLY AN EDC STRATEGIC PLAN. AND WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THOSE FUNDS.

SIMILARLY, IF YOU ARE ASKING. AND IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE THESE. IF IF THERE IS A. THE SUBCOMMITTEE FEELS THAT THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE AN ORGANIZATION LIKE A PTBA. DOUGLAS TO GET INVOLVED, YOU'D WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT IS AND AGAIN, PRESENT THAT TO THE COUNCIL. BUT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE A PLAN, RIGHT, IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD AND VET THIS ORGANIZATION, HAVE THEM INVOLVED AND HELP US ASSIST.

AND YOU'D WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE PLAN, ALONG WITH THE REQUEST THAT IT BECOME A BUDGET ITEM THAT YOU GIVE TO COUNCIL. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THOSE TWO PATHWAYS IN THAT. NOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR REGARD, LIKE A PTBA DOUGLAS, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY, AND I'M JUST JUST BECAUSE IT'S VERY WELL KNOWN AND DON DID SUCH A GREAT JOB. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WANTING TO REALLY CREATE A PLAN TO DEVELOP DON DRIVE INTO AN ARTIST COMMUNITY AND WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, RIGHT? TBA DOUGLAS IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO HELP BASICALLY PACKAGE THAT UP AND WORK WITH THE CITY. BUT THAT COMES AT AN INITIAL PLANNING EXPENSE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF YOU DECIDED YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ON 1431. THAT'S ANOTHER THERE'S BEEN A GREAT IDEA ABOUT HAVING A BICYCLE TRAIL AND THING UP THE HILL. SO AGAIN, YOU WOULD WORK WITH ONE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. SO THERE'S AN, THERE'S AN IDENTIFICATION OF PROJECT, THERE'S AN IDENTIFICATION OF BUDGET. THERE'S AN IDENTIFICATION OF WHO THAT Y'ALL RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT OUR ERIC DE LA CRUZ AND THROUGH OUR PURCHASING AND WITH THE BACKING OF MISTER WEST OVER HERE, WE HAVE A NICE LIST FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO GO DOWN THIS LIST OF, OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN. AND SO YES, THE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THE EDC IS DEFINITELY A NOW FULL BLOWN COMMISSION. SO FOR ANY SUBCOMMITTEE, ETC. YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE A MOTION AND A AND A SECOND AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT FORMAL WITHIN THE PROCESS OF THE MEETING IN THE MINUTES, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, I AGREE, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THAT LIST.

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WE'VE GOT JUST ENOUGH. YEAH. WELL, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE BETWEEN MYSELF, JUSTIN AND DONNIE. DO YOU WANT TO BE ON IT? OKAY. DO WE NEED TO EXPLICITLY SAY TO. DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND STRATEGY, TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND STRATEGY? SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I'D LIKE TO MENTION WE'VE WE'VE MENTIONED HOT TEXT SEVERAL TIMES IN THIS SESSION, AND I HAVE ACCESS HERE TO THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE HANDBOOK. AND THERE'S A SECTION ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH TOURISM. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEND A COPY OF THAT TO ALL OF THE ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD JUST TO EDIFY US. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALL STARTING OUT PRETTY MUCH AT GROUND LEVEL. IF YOU ALSO EMAIL WHEN YOU EMAIL THAT, I'LL UPLOAD IT TO THE CONVERSATION BOARD. GOOD. SOUNDS GREAT, I LOVE IT. OKAY, SO FOR OUR LAST

[V.4. Approval of April 14, 2026 EDC meeting minutes.]