May 26, 2026 Golf Course Advisory Committee

I'M LIKE, OH, I SEE. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND THEN YOU STRETCH IT. YEAH.

[I. CALL TO ORDER, CALL OF ROLL]

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[III. STAFF AND COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]

OKAY. I HAVE A FEW THINGS. OKAY, JUST A UPDATES. RIGHT NOW, STAFF ARE WORKING ON DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS, AND GREG MAY HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW A 770 ESTIMATED $775,000 DECLINE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL CHALLENGING YEAR IN THAT. AND SO WITH WITH SALES TAX REVENUE LIKELY TO BE FLAT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS UP A LITTLE BIT THIS PAST YEAR. BUT WE'RE JUST TAKING A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS SIGNIFICANTLY. AVIATION AND GOLF WILL BE BUDGETED AS ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AND WHAT THAT WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. IT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS. BUT I WAS A LITTLE BIT AWARE. YEAH. SO SO IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. I WISH WE WERE A YEAR AHEAD AND, AND WE COULD MORE CONFIDENTLY, YOU KNOW, PREDICT AND, AND DEPEND ON THAT HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THE CITY IS LOOKING AT ALL, ALL THE FEES THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE REASONABLE AND ANY THAT SHOULD BE INCREASED THAT WILL BE DONE. AND THE, THE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT WORK AGENDAS FOR LITERALLY EVERY EVERYTHING. CERTAINLY CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE WILL BE HAVING A ONE DAY BUDGET WORKSHOP AT SOME POINT, AS WELL AS COUNCIL RETREAT AND, AND OTHER OTHER MEETINGS. SO THE BUDGET'S GOING TO BE A VERY, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST AND PRIORITY TO GET THAT DONE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. SO BASICALLY THAT'S IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY AT SOME POINT PROBABLY FOR YOU AS, AS THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ADVOCATE AS NECESSARY FOR ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP OUR, OUR GOLF COURSE REVENUES AND, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL BE HOLDING THE BUDGET EXPENSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO I I'M A STRONG ADVOCATE AS JUST FROM A BUSINESS APPROACH TO IF, IF MORE MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT, THAT WILL GENERATE EVEN MORE REVENUE THAN. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, IT'S A MATTER OF BUDGETING AND FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE MAKE THE GOLF CONTINUE THE, THE, THE GROWTH IN REVENUE THAT THE GOLF COURSE HAS SEEN IN PAST YEARS AND, AND HOPEFULLY GET TO A BREAK EVEN POINT FOR THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF, YES, SIR. I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID THE AIRPORT AND THE GOLF COURSE ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT. IF IF I CATCHING YOUR DRIFT. RIGHT, RIGHT. YES. SO SO THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE BUDGETED AS ENTERPRISE FUNDS. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. LET'S SAY GREG MAKES $1 MILLION PROFIT. DOES HE GET TO KEEP THAT MILLION AND PLOW IT BACK INTO THE GOLF COURSE. WELL, NOW THAT IT'S NOT SUBSIDIZED BY THE CITY, THERE WILL BE A BUDGET, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY. AND AND THAT WILL GUIDE ALL THE EXPENDITURES AND ALL ALL I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, A FEW MINUTES AGO IS THAT IT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT MORE MONEY CAN'T BE SPENT. BUT IF, IF, IF ANY, INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES FOR THE GOLF COURSE WOULD HAVE TO GENERATE EVEN MORE INCREASE IN REVENUE.

OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO BE A BALANCING ACT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW TO MAKE THE GOLF COURSE BASICALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT, AT LEAST NOT DRAWING UPON WITHOUT ASSISTANCE

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YES, SIR. HOW HOW DOES THAT WORK? HOW DOES THE ENTERPRISE WORK WITH A BUSINESS LIKE THE GOLF COURSE THAT IS TO SOME DEGREE SEASONAL, WHERE IT MAY HAVE DEFICIT MONTHS, BUT IT MAY HAVE SURPLUS MONTHS? HOW HOW DOES THAT HOW DO THOSE VARIANCES GET MANAGED? IT'S A 12 MONTH BUDGET. AND SO AND I CAN'T YOU KNOW, I. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT SPECIFICALLY.

I'M ASSUMING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE REVENUES ARE SOMEWHAT IN TERMS OF THE CITY FUNDS, THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT IT IT IN THE YEAR WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S IF THERE'S SOME IF THERE'S THERE WILL BE, AS YOU WERE POINTING OUT, SOME SOME UPS AND DOWNS IN TERMS OF REVENUE, JUST THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE GOLF COURSE AND THE NATURE OF, OF SEASONAL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT. SO I'M PRESUMING THAT MONEY CAN BE DRAWN FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO OFFSET THAT. BUT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO IT ANY OTHER WAY ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. YEAH. I'M SORRY, BUT I WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE A 770 000 DECLINE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE? WELL, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD NEWS FOR HOMEOWNERS, IT'S THE GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS. THE, THE, THE, THE PROPERTY PROPERTY VALUES HAVE BEEN DROPPING DRAMATICALLY. SO MORE PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE FEWER PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE COLLECTED BECAUSE HOUSING VALUE VALUES ARE DOWN. AND OF COURSE, FOR HOMEOWNERS, THAT'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAPPY TO PAY LESS TAX, BUT THEY'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THEIR HOME BEING WORTH LESS THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS. SO BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S A FACT. HOUSING PRICES ARE, ARE GOING TO BE DOWN. TAX REVENUES WILL BE DOWN. ONLY BECAUSE THEY WERE SO OVERLY INFLATED FOR YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU COULD ARGUE THAT. YES, THAT WAS MY, MY COMMENT. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY.

I, I HAVE A LOT I'D LIKE TO SAY, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO. SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S THE PLACE FOR ME TO, TO SAY IT JUST WILL SAY IT. SO I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF WHERE THE TWO THINGS THAT PROBABLY GENERATES THE CITY MONEY IS THE TWO THINGS YOU'RE KIND OF STICKING IT TO. THAT'S KIND OF SEEMS WEIRD TO ME. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S IT. I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST LETTING US KNOW, SO WE APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. WELL, AND I'M YOUR, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I'M YOUR ADVOCATE TO, TO THE FULLEST EXTENT I CAN BE. AND THE, IF IT COMES TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS COMMITTEE CAN, CAN ALSO BE AN ADVOCATE AND, AND SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET GREG TAKE HIS STAND FOR HIS CITY STAFF REPORT. IT'S NICE TO SEE THE PIPES OUT THERE. GOOD. IT'S NICE TO SEE THE PIPES OUT THERE. YEAH IT IS. SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GLAD THERE WAS A VERDICT AND WE ADJUSTED THE ROOM. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY REPORT A LITTLE BIT. I WILL SAVE WHAT I WAS GOING TO GO OVER. WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN VERY LONG. I'M GOING TO TRY TO BE SOMEWHAT SHORT WINDED, BUT I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE GOLF BUSINESS. OKAY. FIRST I'M GOING TO TELL THE STORY ABOUT THIS PLACE, REITERATE IT FOR THE 50TH TIME. THREE YEARS, GEORGE AND I'VE BEEN HERE THREE YEARS. OKAY.

WHEN WE GOT HERE THREE YEARS AGO, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH NUMBERS I LOOKED AT. BUT GIVE

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REGARDLESS IF I WORKED FOR SOMEONE ABOVE ME OR I WAS THE PERSON IN MANAGEMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN SINCE I WAS 28. SUPPORT WISE, IRRIGATION'S COME TO FRUITION. YEAH, I'LL HIT ON THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. THE BUDGET, WHICH I SAW THE PAST THREE YEARS, ALL THE BUDGETS THAT WERE APPROVED WERE HIGHER THAN THE ONE I'M WORKING ON, WITH FAR LESS REVENUE, FAR LESS BUSINESS. I CUT IT. 65, I BELIEVE, GIVE OR TAKE, FOR MY WORKING BUDGET. THEN I WAS CUT ANOTHER 55 WHEN I SAW IT POSTED. BOTH MAINTENANCE AND GOLF OPS WERE STAYING RIGHT IN THAT. AND WE WILL PROBABLY COME UNDER A BIT OR OVER A BIT, BUT BE RIGHT ON IT. BUT AGAIN, I WANT I NEEDED QUITE A BIT MORE BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET THIS GOLF COURSE. SO I'M GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING THAT I'VE SAID FROM THE DAY I STARTED HERE, AND THE DAY THAT GEORGE STARTED HERE, I'VE ALWAYS SAID, AND EVERYONE HERE HAS HEARD ME SAY IT, THAT A YEAR AFTER IRRIGATION IS FINISHED, I WOULD HAVE THE GOLF COURSE REVENUE IN THE BLACK. OR THEY COULD. I'LL SIGN MY GOODBYE PAPERS. SO THAT FINISH IS GOING TO BE NOVEMBER 1ST OCTOBER, MID OCTOBER TO EARLY NOVEMBER. I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO GET HIM IN THE BLACK FISCAL YEAR.

2728. I STILL STAND BY THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO OPERATIONALLY A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE OF THE ADDED AGRONOMIC AGRONOMICAL PRACTICE. THE ADDED FROM 17000 ROUNDS TO TRENDING TOWARDS 36 THIS YEAR, AND I'M GOING TO DO 40 PLUS WHEN WE'RE IN THE BLACK WITHOUT ANY HELP. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE THE BUDGET WORK. MY THOUGHTS AFTER WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT ARE BASICALLY I'M TRENDING RIGHT NOW TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL WAS COMING IN. YOU KNOW, WE WERE 350 ISH LAST YEAR COMING IN UNDER 300. I'M TRENDING TOWARDS COMING IN. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE REAL NUMBER BECAUSE ANY GIVEN DAY SOMETHING CAN BREAK AGAIN. 55 YEAR OLD COURSE AND FACILITIES. SO BUT I'M TRENDING TO COMING IN BELOW 200. OKAY, SO THINK ABOUT IT. IN THREE YEARS, I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE SELLING

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THERE'S BEEN NO AGRONOMIC PRACTICE ON FAIRWAYS OR TEES HERE THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE TO I MEAN, I DON'T WANT I'M NOT GOING TO THROW NUMBERS OUT THERE BECAUSE I KNOW THE NUMBER.

IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND 60 GRAND FROM 17. BUT AS YOU DOUBLE, TRIPLE YOUR BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY. YOU DON'T CUT IN ANY BUSINESS. SO I'VE GOT A PLAN FOR THAT.

I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON TEE BOXES NEXT YEAR SO I CAN TAKE THAT 17 TO, YOU KNOW, 35 RATHER THAN 60.

I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN FEASIBLY DO WITH NO MORE STAFF AND AND OTHERS. I NEED MORE EQUIPMENT. AND THAT'S, THAT WAS TABLED THIS YEAR. BUT IT WORKED OUT BECAUSE THE DELAY OF THE IRRIGATION PROJECT, THAT IT REALLY WON'T BE HUGE FOR US UNTIL, YOU KNOW, WINTER ON NEXT YEAR AFTER IRRIGATION. SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL WORK OUT. SO I COULD GO ON AND ON. BUT AGAIN, ALL THE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GROW AND INCREASE.

AND IT'S AMAZING FOR ANYONE THAT SAW THIS PLACE THREE YEARS AGO AND LOOKS AT IT NOW. SO HOPEFULLY IT WORKS. IF I COME IN, YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH AND AND I HEARD COUNCILOR HALL TALK ABOUT THE IF I CAN INCREASE REVENUE AND INCREASE FEES. WELL, YEAH, THAT'S I'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR THREE YEARS, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT NOW. I CAN DO THAT AFTER I HAVE IRRIGATION COMPLETED, I EMAILED I DID A PROFORMA LAST SPRING SHOWING NUMBERS. WHAT I WANT TO INCREASE AND WEEKDAY WEEKEND ANNUAL PASSES, WHICH WAS MINIMAL. AND WHEN I SAY MINIMAL EXAMPLE, THE AVERAGE WAS $3.50 $2 ON THE WEEKDAY, $5 ON THE WEEKEND ANNUAL PASS IS 10%. IF YOU SPEND TWO GRAND NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND 2200. WELL, I COULD DO A LOT MORE THAN THAT, BUT I DID THAT AT PRIVATE CLUBS AND $150 GREEN FEE CLUBS. SO I'M LOOKING AT MY COMPETITION AND I'VE GOT TO BE WHAT THE MARKET BEARS. AND I CAN'T BE AT THE TOP OF THE ECHELON WHEN I'M NOT NEAR THE QUALITY OF THAT ECHELON. BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY DOUBLE WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THREE YEARS AGO. WE'RE WE'RE WHERE WE NEED TO BE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S GOING TO GET HIGHER. AND AGAIN, I CAN DO THAT. AND THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AFTER EVERYTHING'S DONE, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN. I KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WORKS. I KNOW WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER. BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. I CAN'T COME UP WITH IF I'M 200 GRAND SHORT. AND YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR, MY THOUGHTS ARE ALREADY WITH SEEING WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE TIMELINE AND WHERE WE'RE TRENDING TO. IF I COME IN AT

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MAY ROUNDS. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON ROUNDS AND KIND OF REVENUES. 1ST MAY ROUNDS WERE BASICALLY FLAT COMPARED TO LAST MAY. AND AGAIN, MAY IS ONE OF THE BUSIER MONTHS IN THE GOLF BUSINESS. I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH FLAT AND ROUNDS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN APRIL AND MAY, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RAIN WETTER THAN NORMAL AND COOLER, WHICH IS A GREAT THING, ESPECIALLY THE RAIN. IT'S HURT ME SOME WEEKENDS, OUR PRIME DAYS, BUT WE'VE MADE UP FOR IT ON SOME RECORD DAYS AND SOME GREAT WEEKENDS. REVENUE WERE 15% UP IN GROSS REVENUE OVER LAST MAY, SO PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MORE IN CILIARY AREAS. AND THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. THAT COVERS MAY. I'LL GO OVER TO YEAR TO DATE ROUNDS, FISCAL YEAR TO DATE ROUNDS. WE ARE UP 12% IN ROUNDS. AND WHICH AGAIN, I WAS HOPING FOR THE 5 TO 10 WERE 12 UP. AND THAT'S WITH MORE RAIN THAN LAST YEAR, EXCEPT FOR THE HISTORICAL EVENT. REVENUE WERE 25% UP AND GROSS REVENUE. SO YOU CAN SEE ROUNDS OF REVENUE ARE BOTH ABOUT DOUBLE WHAT I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE. NOI. I MEAN, OUR NET OPERATING INCOME AS OF I THINK MAY 21ST, GIVE OR TAKE, IS ABOUT 150 IN THE RED. SO IF I TAKE THAT NUMBER WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW, THE 150 IN THE RED WITH BASICALLY FOUR MONTHS LEFT, AND YOU GET YOUR NUMBER, DIVIDE IT BY EIGHT AND MULTIPLY IT BY 12, YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY. THAT'S THE EASIEST. BUT THAT BRINGS ME IN AT A LITTLE LOWER NUMBER THAN I'M EVEN TALKING ABOUT. BUT AGAIN, I KNOW UNEXPECTED REPAIRS AND THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I'M VERY CLOSE ON THE NUMBERS. I'M TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT, THAT COVERS THE ROUNDS AND WHERE WE'RE AT. IRRIGATION MEETING WE HAD LAST TUESDAY, THE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING, I SHOULD SAY IT WENT WELL. I FELT POSITIVE ABOUT IT. IT WAS EVIDENT THAT EVERYTHING COMING TO FRUITION, AND WITH SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE OVER THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS, WAS WORTH THE WAIT DUE TO SAVING THE CITY MONEY AND JUST HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE. SO MEETING WENT WELL AND I WAS PLEASED. WE BASICALLY, YOU CAN CALL IT BREAKING GROUND THE DAY AFTER ON WEDNESDAY. SO THINGS HAVE STARTED. I HAVEN'T HAD TO SHUT DOWN A HOLE YET BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING PREDOMINANTLY ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF GETTING ALL THE PIPE PIECED TOGETHER, SO ON AND SO FORTH. BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE A LINE OF COMMUNICATION, AND WE TALKED DAILY AS NEEDED. WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO CLOSE NUMBER TWO TODAY, BUT THEY'RE NOT READY YET TO MOVE INWARD. SO THAT WAS DELAYED. BUT I'M LIKING THE START AND WHAT I SEE ON COMMUNICATION AS WELL. SO IS GEORGE, VICTOR AND AND LES AND SOME OF THE GUYS WE'VE KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY. YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS DOING A GOOD JOB AND OBVIOUSLY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU COUNCIL. SO. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE EVERYTHING IS. WE'RE IN THE HEART OF GOLF SEASON. YOU KNOW, IT'S IN THE I'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE WORKING FOR ME. WHAT A GREAT INDUSTRY TO DO AS A KID. HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE. SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF TURNOVER. SO ALL MY STAFF OUTSIDE, I HAD FIVE GRADUATING SENIORS, TWO ALREADY GONE, THREE WILL BE LEAVING BY

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I'M TRYING TO KID A LITTLE BIT MY DRY SARCASM. SO WE'RE JUST PICKING IT UP AND COVERING WHERE NEEDED ALL. THAT'S FINE. I'VE INTERVIEWED A COUPLE PEOPLE FROM INSIDE, GOT A COUPLE POSSIBILITIES, BUT IT'S I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS. THIS IS A GOLF INDUSTRY. ANY HOSPITALITY ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS. SO IT'S NOT NOT A BIG DEAL. IT'S JUST TOO BAD HAD HAPPENED IN THE PRIME TIME. SO I'LL DO I'LL BE DOING MORE COVER COVERING THE COUNTER AND RUNNING BACK AND FORTH TO THE OFFICE. AND NOT AS MUCH IN THE GOLF COURSE, BUT COMMUNICATIONS TO KEY TO SUCCESS. SO ALL WILL BE GOOD AND I'LL GET SOME GOOD PEOPLE IN THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY RASH DECISIONS RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. PROBABLY TIRED OF HEARING ME. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS FOR KIND OF FILLING ME IN ON SOME THINGS. AND AGAIN, I WAS VERY WELL AT THE ENTERPRISE. I JUST I'M SPEAKING SIMPLY FROM MY PLAN. I'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR THREE YEARS THE NUMBERS WE'VE SAVED, WHAT WE'VE WORKED ON AND KIND OF I'M STICKING TO THE SAME THING I'VE ALWAYS SAID TO MAKE IT WORK. AFTER ONE YEAR OF IRRIGATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THAT DAN AND SARAH? THE OTHER ONE'S MOVING. YEAH, YEAH, BUT IT'S THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE A BIG DEAL. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. WELL, NOW I'M JUST ANNOUNCING, I KNOW. YEAH. I JUST GOT SOME.

YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO CLARIFY, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT SEEN ANY BUDGETS YET. THOSE ARE AT THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME HEATED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE CUTS ARE GOING TO GOING TO COME AND HOW THEY'LL AFFECT THE CITY AND WHAT WE CAN DELAY IN TERMS OF EXPENSES AND WHAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND BUDGET. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THOSE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. BUT I KNOW OUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF ARE, ARE, ARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS REVENUE AND IT'S GOT TO GOT TO BE CUT SOMEWHERE. YEAH. AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. JUST TO GO ON RECORD. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THIS, NOT THE ENTERPRISE PARK. I KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO CUT CLOSE TO $1 MILLION BECAUSE NORM OWEN AND I KID ALL THE TIME AND SHE SAYS, GREG, I NEED YOU TO SELL $1 MILLION MORE WORTH OF GOLF SHIRTS. WELL, WE KID ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT, SO I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE COUNCIL, ABOUT THE CITY BY ANY MEANS. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO TURN THIS THING AROUND. AS I WENT BACK TO MY ROOTS AND MUNI GOLF, I'M JUST SAYING I'VE BEEN CUT AS I'VE DOUBLED BUSINESS WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE OPPOSITE. SO AGAIN, IN A PLAN THAT'S WORKING, IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO CUT AGAIN. BUT I DIDN'T EVEN THINK I COULD MAKE IT THIS YEAR. AND I'M STAYING ON BUDGET. SO. FIVE P'S PRIOR PLANNING PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE AND BELIEVE IT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. MY GLASS IS ALWAYS HALF FULL SO I AM HERE TO MAKE IT WORK. THAT'S MY GOAL. IF YOU KNOW IF THINGS ARE IMPOSSIBLE, IT'S ONLY ONE ONE PERSON IN MY LIFE THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT. SO. THANK YOU. THANKS, GREG. ONE THING THAT GREG TOUCHED ON LAST OUR LAST MEETING WAS THE HE GAVE OUT THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE ON THE

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THIS IS REALITY NOW. I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO THERE'S GOING TO BE CERTAIN CERTAIN DAYS, YOU KNOW, LIKE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. WILL THESE PEOPLE, A LOT OF THEM LIVE IN ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA. SO YOU GOT MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, 4TH OF JULY WEEKEND. THAT'S HER OPPORTUNITY TO FLY HOME ON A FRIDAY AND SEE THEIR FAMILY. AND THEN THEY'RE BACK, YOU KNOW, MONDAY OR TUESDAY AFTER THE HOLIDAY. BUT YEAH, NO, IT'S IT'S AN EVERYDAY DEAL. COOL. GREG. I'M SORRY IF I MISSED IT. WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING FOR THE COMPLETION DATE NOW ON THE IRRIGATION GAUGE, ANYWHERE FROM MID-OCTOBER TO THE 1ST OF NOVEMBER. REALLY? THE ONLY THING. I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT IT DOWN TO A SCIENCE. THE ONLY OBSTRUCTIONS ARE ACTS OF GOD AND EQUIPMENT FAILURE IN AUSTIN DOING THESE IRRIGATION PROJECTS, THERE'S A LOT OF ROCK. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE TRENCHING AND DOING CERTAIN THINGS, SOMETIMES THAT MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THE NORM. OKAY. SO. NO QUESTIONS. NO, NOT AT ALL. ALL RIGHT, GREG, THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU. EVERYTHING IS GOOD. JUST BLOCKS ALREADY SET. OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. MOVING

[IV.1. Approval of the April 28, 2026 meeting minutes.]

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION APPROVED. THANK YOU.

[IV.3. Consider, discuss and take action regarding potential partnership with the Economic Development Corporation (EDC).]

I'M NEW. IT'S OKAY. COMPUTER SAVVY TODAY. YEAH. AND NUMBER ONE, I WAS IN TROUBLE BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO ANY OF THE TRAINING BECAUSE I GET SICK OF DOING IT AT MY WORK. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I DID IT ALL. I FIGURED MY EMAIL WAS SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THAT. YEAH. OKAY. NO, I'VE NEVER SENT THEM OUT. I DON'T REMEMBER LARRY SENDING THEM OUT. WELL, THEY WERE JUST KIND OF ON THE SITE BECAUSE SHE JUST TELLS ME SHE POSTS THEM. WELL, NOW, YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA SEND SOMEBODY WAS SENDING THEM BECAUSE I WAS GETTING THEM IN MY EMAIL. MAYBE I SHOULD BE SENDING THEM. I'LL MAKE A NOTE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO HIJACK THIS. OH, NO, I'LL MAKE A NOTE. START SENDING AGENDAS OUT. BUT I JUST THOUGHT EVERYBODY DID LIKE I DID. WE JUST PRINTED THEM OUT, SO. SORRY. NO. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY, BACK TO NUMBER THREE. SO ANYWAY, I WAS JUST MAKING A COMMENT THAT UNLESS GAGE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET A MEETING TOGETHER WITH THE THE OTHER GROUP IS JUST STRUGGLING TO GET THEIR CALENDAR AVAILABILITY TOGETHER. SO WE'LL GET GET TIME WORKED OUT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

AS FAR AS THE WORK PLAN GOES. I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE KIND OF IN A HOLDING PATTERN. IT MAKES THIS MAKES THIS YEAR DIFFICULT TO EVEN BE ON THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE ARE IN KIND OF A HOLDING PATTERN ON THINGS THAT

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SO. SO WE'LL, YOU KNOW, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE WORK PLAN OR. AT ALL? ANYONE? OKAY, WELL, YOU ARE QUIET. AND SO ANY GENERAL COMMENTS BEFORE I START TALKING ABOUT A FUTURE MEETING DATE? THE AND I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT, BUT DROPPED THE LETTER IN MY MAIL. WAS IT YOU? I IT WAS INTERESTING. THE THAT WORK PLAN IS THIS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? THE COMMENTS THAT WERE ON HERE, THE ONE THAT REALLY JUST WHAT IS THE GOLF COURSE NOT DOING WELL, MANAGING PUBLIC PERCEPTION. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS INTERESTING THAT WE GOT THAT FROM ONE OF THE MEMBERS. WE GOT A LOT OF THAT, A LOT OF THAT LAST YEAR TOO.

AND I KNOW THAT GREG DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT MARKETING OR ANYTHING, BUT MAN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD PUT OUT IN THE NEWSLETTER OR THE OR IN THE NEW NEWSPAPER IN THE THERE'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NEWSPAPER. OKAY. IT'S FREE. AND AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T TURN ON MY MICROPHONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON TO HELP THAT PERCEPTION BECAUSE NO, NOT EVERYBODY PLAYS GOLF. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO DO A SELLING JOB ON THIS AS OPPOSED TO JUST AND I CAN, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE, I CAN REACH OUT TO SEE, BUT WE KIND OF HAVE TO BE IN AGREEMENT AND A CONSENSUS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT THERE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY FOR THAT ANYWAYS. I'LL SHUT UP. NO, NO, I'M NO, I THINK NO, THAT THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO PUT JUST SOMETHING I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT INTO THE NEW NEWSPAPER THAT THEY PUT OUT, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE JUST DID LIKE A GOLF COURSE UPDATE THAT THE IRRIGATION HAS STARTED, WE ASSUME THAT IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, BY MID-OCTOBER TO JUST TO UPDATE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR SENDS OUT A REGULAR UPDATE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO THROUGH FACEBOOK OR. OH, YEAH. THAT'S WHERE I SEE IT AS ON FACEBOOK. BUT I THINK IT WOULD CARRY A LOT MORE WEIGHT IF IT WAS COMING FROM THE MAYOR. IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT. AND THEN IF IF HE DOES THAT, AND MAYBE WE TAKE THAT SNIPPET AND PUT IT INTO, BECAUSE I'M NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AT ALL. SO IF THAT HAPPENS, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK DOING IT IN THE NEWSPAPER WE DID, WE WENT TO THE NEWSPAPER, WE HAD A, A LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD THAT WE GAVE TO SOME OF OUR GOLF LADIES. AND WE HAD THEM PUT THAT IN THE NEWSPAPER WITH A PICTURE OF THEM AND A LITTLE WRITE UP ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T DO A GOLF COURSE, ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE OR SOMETHING FOR THE NEWSPAPER, JUST TO SAY, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT REALLY HIT ME ON THIS, IS THAT THE PERCEPTION OF NEGATIVE PERCEPTION. SO YEAH, AND I KNOW THAT YOU REACHED OUT TO ME JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR YOU TO JUMP IN. AND THEN YOU FOUND OUT THAT I'M NOT ON FACEBOOK OR ANY SOCIAL MEDIA WHATSOEVER.

YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER SOME KIND OF DOCUMENT TO SHOW THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THE IRRIGATION PROJECT TO THE CITY. RIGHT. AND THE, THE, THIS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PAPER, THEY HAVE SOME PART TIME REPORTERS WHO CAN GO IN AND GO INTERVIEW THE CITY MANAGER. THEY COULD GO INTERVIEW SOMEBODY ELSE. I FORGOT THE GUY'S NAME THAT THAT RUNS THE CHAMBER. WHAT'S HIS NAME? THE GUY THAT RUNS THE CHAMBER, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EITHER. I TALKED TO I THINK HE'S I THINK HE'S A BUSINESS GUY. RIGHT? SO HE KNOWS HOW TO HOW TO PUT THINGS FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE. I THINK BETWEEN HIM AND THEM DOING AN INTERVIEW PROCESS WHERE THEY COULD TALK, PUT TOGETHER AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE BENEFIT OF THE IRRIGATION PROJECT, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY THE GOLF COURSE, JUST DON'T EVEN THINK OF IT AS A GOLF COURSE. JUST THINK OF IT AS A PLACE FOR US TO DISPERSE OUR WATER. THAT THAT ALONE JUSTIFIES THE GOLF COURSE. SO FROM A, I THINK, A PUBLIC TAXPAYER PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT OUT THERE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, OH YEAH, WE STARTED OUR IRRIGATION PROJECTS GOING TO FINISH IN NOVEMBER. THAT'S AN UPDATE. BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY. MANAGE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OTHER

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC PERCEPTION, BUT IT'S THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BEING INTERVIEWED BY SOMEBODY WITH A NEWSPAPER AND DOING THAT AND TELLING OUR PERSPECTIVE? I WOULD JUST TELL THEM, ALL I REALLY KNOW IS WE'RE GOING TO BE PROFITABLE ONCE WE PUT IT IN. BUT I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT EFFLUENT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO DO YOU GET? THE CITY MANAGER KNOWS ALL THAT STUFF. THE CITY, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED, THE VICTOR GUYS ARE REAL SMART GUY THAT'S WORKING ON THE PROJECT. YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, JUST YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE EXPERTS. WE KNOW THE BASICS. BUT I THINK THE STARTING POINT IS THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO. DO YOU HAVE ANY TALKING POINTS THAT WE GET HIT ON? BUT HE ALREADY HAS THE SAY AND THEN GO TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO KIND OF DO THE SAME THING. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY LIKE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT COME OUT. WELL, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PAPER IS NOT AN INVESTIGATIVE. NO, I'M JUST THERE'S JUST SOMEBODY. BUT THEY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CAN DO THAT.

NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE CAN SAVE US THE TROUBLE AND ASK THEM JUST TO SEE IF THEY'LL PUBLISH IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I THINK IT'D BE NICE TO PUBLISH SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER. EVERYBODY'S SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEWSPAPER. I MEAN, THEY THEY WANT SOMETHING. THEY WANT STUFF TO. THEY WANT STUFF TO WRITE ABOUT, LIKE YOU SAID. YEAH. DO YOU ALL WANT ME TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, MY THOUGHTS, AND THEN SEND IT OUT FOR EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT, PLEASE? SURE. YEAH. AND YEAH, I WAS, I WAS VOLUNTEERING FOR THAT, BUT DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD Y'ALL WANTED TO GO. SO NO, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO.

WELL, WE'VE ASKED JASON. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR I THINK TWO YEARS. AND I'VE BEEN ON HERE. LIKE IT KIND OF STARTED WHEN WE THOUGHT THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS GOING IN LIKE, OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO? AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. AND NOW WE'RE BACK TO THIS POINT WHERE I THINK IT'S KIND OF IT'S WHERE GREG GREG IS. AND I'M NOT SAYING HE'S WRONG. I MEAN, HE'S VERY HESITANT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO BACKFIRE. RIGHT? BUT THEN YOU HAVE US WHO ARE JUST KIND OF LIKE EXCITED, LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WE'VE SEEN JUST HOW MUCH BETTER IT IS TO PLAY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. OH MY GOSH. LIKE, AND THAT'S JUST WITH MOTHER NATURE. SO IMAGINE YOU'RE GETTING WATER OUT HERE ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, IS IT EVER GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, PGA COURSE NO, IT'S A CITY COURSE.

BUT BUT LIKE YOU SAID THOUGH THERE'S OTHER BENEFITS TO IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST GOLF.

IT'S IT IS A DISBURSEMENT OF WATER. AND I'M SURE THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER BENEFITS THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN PRIVY TO THAT WE NEED TO GET. AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING CONTACT THE MAYOR. CITY MANAGER. LIKE WHAT, WHAT CAN WE PUT OUT THERE JUST SAYS, THIS IS THE BENEFIT OF THIS WHOLE.

BEFORE WE WERE WONDERING, HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT IN THE WATER BILL OR SOMETHING. WELL, NOW WE HAVE AN ACTUAL NEWSPAPER. WE CAN WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO NEWSPAPERS. WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? I KNOW THE THERE'S A SEVEN, EIGHT, 645.

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INCLUDING YOU, JESS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO BE IMPARTIAL AND NOT HAVE A SAY IN IT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR. WELL, I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE DO PUT OUT JASON, IT HAS TO HAVE HIS APPROVAL. OKAY. OR HIM GOING TO THE COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL IS FINE WITH THIS EVEN DOING IT. YEAH, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE. AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THE ARTICLE EXCEPT I, I AGREE, I THINK COMING FROM THIS, FROM OUR, OUR MAYOR, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE MORE BE MORE POWERFUL IN TERMS OF SPEAKING FOR THE FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT, BUT YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, PARTICULARLY NOW THAT WE'RE GOING INTO THE BUDGETING CYCLE, NOW IS THE TIME TO REALLY BE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGING THAT PERCEPTION AND, AND REALISTICALLY LOOKING AT WHERE THE GOLF COURSE IS GOING REVENUE WISE AND, AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT YOU MAY WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THERE THIS NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF BREAK EVEN, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THAT'S THE GOAL. AND, AND AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE GOT A HECK OF A JOB. CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT HOW TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. BUT BUT I THINK THE GOLF COURSE HAS MADE GREAT PROGRESS AND EXCITING THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITH. FINALLY, WE REALLY ARE HAVING THAT IRRIGATION SYSTEM, NEW SYSTEM INSTALLED. AND THAT WILL MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE KEEPING THAT GRASS AND THE GREENS LOOKING LOOKING GOOD YEAR ROUND. SO I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING AND AND WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND, AND I HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE, THE, HOW IMPORTANT THE GOLF COURSE IS TO FOR AFFLUENT AND ALSO AS YOU KNOW, A BASIC RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SO MANY PEOPLE. AND, AND THE DRAW THAT, THAT IT'S BRINGING IN PEOPLE FROM OUT OF OUT OF LAGO VISTA, WHICH IS REVENUE THAT BENEFITS THE CITY. SO, SO IT, IT, IT SERVES A LOT OF DIFFERENT PURPOSES THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY. AND I THINK AN ARTICLE JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZING THOSE AND, AND TALKING ABOUT HOW EXCITED WE ARE ABOUT THE NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND THE CONTINUED PROGRESS OF THE GOLF COURSE.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S A FINE LINE AND I SEE WHERE GREG'S COMING FROM. HE DOESN'T WANT TO PUT US OUT THERE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE. ADVERTISEMENT. AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES OUT HERE AND JULY THIS YEAR, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD RAIN IN HOWEVER LONG AND EVERYTHING'S DEAD, THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK RIGHT. BUT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN A POSITIVE LIGHT, IN A NON-ADVERTISING WAY, AND WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE, I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. YEAH. AND THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE TRYING TO REACH HER LAGO TAXPAYERS. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S THE AUDIENCE. YEAH. I DO THINK I THINK JUST MADE A GREAT POINT. I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON WHAT THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT ARE GOING FORWARD, MORE THAN WORRYING ABOUT SO MUCH TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE COST.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT JUSTIFYING THE COST. AND I DON'T EVEN THINK WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT FROM A GOLF STANDPOINT. IT NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, WILL IT POTENTIALLY INCREASE REVENUE AND STUFF? OF COURSE. AND WE CAN MAYBE MENTION THAT. I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO HARP ON IS THIS IS THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY, RIGHT? THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF IT. AND IT IS MORE THAN JUST THE JUSTICE POINT. IT'S IT'S MORE TO MORE THAN A GOLF COURSE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT GOES INTO IT. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO WORD IT, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD. AND BUT I THINK BETWEEN SHANE AND THE CITY MANAGER WE WILL GET SOME GOOD TALKING POINTS. SO. ALL RIGHT.

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I DO GIVE A. OF COURSE THAT'S NOT NEW INFORMATION, SO I CAN'T GIVE OLD INFORMATION EVERY, EVERY EVERY MEETING. RIGHT. BUT I COULD SPEAK TO THAT. AND SO IF YOU IF YOU HAVE THOSE TALKING POINTS, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND I MAY ADD SOME. BUT YES, I MEAN, I COULD JUST GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE AND WE, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THIS, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS GIVE A REPORT ON THEIR COMMITTEES. AND SO, SO I CAN TALK ABOUT HOW, HOW EXCITED YOU ARE. I AM ABOUT THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD THAT WE'RE EXPECTING THAT, YOU KNOW, BY BY NOVEMBER THAT WILL BE COMPLETED. AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF OF IMPROVEMENT IN THE GOLF COURSE. AND I CAN. SO I CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROFITABILITY TALKED ABOUT. YEAH, OKAY. I WAS JUST SURPRISED TO SEE THAT ON HERE THAT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WELL, I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. I GUESS NOT THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT I MEAN, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND THE APPROVAL OF THE NEW ONE. AND WHEN THE WHEN THAT WAS EXPECTED TO BE INSTALLED. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT INFORMATION HASN'T CHANGED SINCE SINCE WE DISCUSSED IT PREVIOUSLY. SO IT'LL BE GOOD TO, TO LET THEM KNOW IT IS NOW. AND THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK STARTED. IT'S THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS NOW BEING INSTALLED AFTER SOME DELAYS AND IT'S GOING TO BE FINISHED BY NOVEMBER. AND WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT IT. AWESOME. THE THING THAT STRUCK ME MOST. IN THE COMMENTS WERE WE ASKED THE LAST QUESTION, WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE GCAC TO BE OR GCAC TO BE WORKING ON? WAS TO DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND THE CLUBHOUSE. AND ANOTHER THING THAT STRUCK ME FROM ONE OF THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WAS WHAT'S POSSIBLE. START GIVING US SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT'S POSSIBLE. SO IF WE'RE IN AN ADVISORY TYPE ROLE AND WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THINGS LIKE GAGE, I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING ON A PRO FORMA OF SOME SORT, BUT THE PRO FORMA

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I AGREE FROM MAYBE THE DETAILED PERFORMANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT A STRATEGY IS DIFFERENT. A FIVE YEAR PLAN IS DIFFERENT. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE COULD GIVE DIRECTION ON THAT. DO WE EVEN KNOW WHAT GREG'S WISH LIST IS FOR FIVE YEARS FOR THE CLUBHOUSE, FOR THE GOLF COURSE? I DON'T I ALL I HEAR IS WE WANT TO BE PROFITABLE. THE, THE, THE DIRECTION. I MEAN, IF THAT WAS THE BASIS OF THE WORK PLAN WAS THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL HAD GIVEN US. IF IF COUNCIL AS A WHOLE WANTS US TO MOVE TO A HIGHER LEVEL AND START TALKING ABOUT FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR THAT FROM JESS. WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT HAPPENS IF WE WANT COUNCIL TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT? ISN'T OUR JOB TO INFLUENCE. WE CAN GIVE FEEDBACK, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, COUNCIL DICTATES WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS SUPPOSED TO ESSENTIALLY BE WORKING ON. WELL, NO ONE'S TOLD US WE CAN'T WORK ON A FIVE YEAR PLAN IF NO ONE'S TOLD US THAT WE CAN'T WORK ON SUGGESTED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CLUBHOUSE SUGGESTIONS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S A BAD THING TO LOOK AT.

I'M JUST SAYING. I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED COUNCIL ON BOARD TO WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. CAME , FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER FROM COUNCIL. BUT IT KIND OF STRUCK ME AS THAT'S ISN'T THAT THE EXACT KIND OF STUFF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON? WE'RE IN AN ADVISORY ROLE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR LIAISON IS HERE FOR, IS TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND FIND OUT WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS, TELL THEM WHAT'S POSSIBLE, WHAT'S NEEDED. I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY EVEN KNOW? I DIDN'T MEAN TO LOAD THAT. I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO KNOW FROM US WHAT WE THINK IS NEEDED. WHY NOT? WELL, I THINK THAT GAGE IS CORRECT. I THINK WE NEED TO LET JESS GO.

HE'S OUR LIAISON. SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE THE GCAC WANTS TO START LOOKING AT WORKING ON. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN GET ON BOARD WITH? IF THE FEEDBACK WE HAD GOTTEN WHEN WE PUT THE WORK PLAN TOGETHER, THE ORIGINAL FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL, FROM OUR PREVIOUS LIAISON, WAS THAT COUNCIL WANTED US TO WORK ON HOW WE COULD IMPROVE REVENUE, AND THEN THEY ADDED ON TO THAT.

THEY BETTER DEFINED IT. VALUE OF THE GOLF COURSE TO THE COMMUNITY. HOW HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND AND WE BUILT THE PLAN FROM THERE. DOWN INTO SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES AND WORK TARGETS.

AND IF I'M AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT, BUT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL DIRECTION. AND IF WE SHOULD GET COUNCIL'S BUY RIGHT NOW, WHATEVER WE'RE WORKING ON IS BASICALLY INVISIBLE TO ME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, TO BE FRANK. IT'S A IT'S THE WORK PLAN WERE YOU WORKING ON? WE HAVE TWO MAIN OBJECTIVES THAT WE GOT THE COUNCIL TO AGREE ON. ONE WAS A FINANCIAL PLAN AND TWO WAS A MARKETING TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN. SO I THINK WITHIN THE FINANCIAL PLAN, IF WE WANT TO RUN IT OUT FIVE YEARS LIKE YOU'RE SUGGESTING, I THINK THEY'D BE FINE WITH IT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT RUNNING OUT THE REVENUE NUMBERS FOR FIVE YEARS. I'M TALKING ABOUT RUNNING OUT. WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE GOLF COURSE THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THE GOLF COURSE AS IS FOREVER, OR ARE WE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE GOLF COURSE? IF SOMEONE INTERVIEWED GREG AND SAY, GREG, WHAT ARE THE TOP THREE THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WITH REGARD TO IMPROVING THE CLUBHOUSE? DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE TOP THREE THINGS ARE? AND IF HE CAN BACK IT UP AS TO WHY IT'S IMPORTANT AND WHY IT MIGHT INCREASE REVENUE, OR WHY IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY, WHY CAN'T WE ADVOCATE THAT? WHY DO WE NEED TO WAIT FOR SOMEBODY FROM CITY COUNCIL TO TELL US WHAT WE CAN ADVOCATE FOR? CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? YEAH, MAYBE

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THAT'S FINE. ADD AN AGENDA ITEM AND REVIEW THE WORK PLAN FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AND DECIDE AS A COMMITTEE IF WE NEED TO MODIFY THAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. JUST BEEN OVER THERE KIND OF RAISING HIS HAND A LITTLE BIT. I THINK HE HAS. WELL, I THINK THAT, NUMBER ONE, I HAVE FOUND PERSONALLY IN MY IN MY WORK HISTORY THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXCITING VISION AND, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES BEYOND JUST THE NITTY GRITTY, DETAILED BUDGET, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE A ROADMAP, AN EXCITING VISION OF WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, THAT'S REALISTIC. AND, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE WELCOMED. I MEAN, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT FOR THE GOLF COURSE. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT FOR. IT'S IT'S. FOR THE CLUBHOUSE. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL NOT ONLY FROM A BUDGET PLANNING STANDPOINT DOWN THE ROAD, BUT ALSO FROM A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THE GOLF COURSE CAN BE. AND, AND IF WE DO THESE THINGS, IT WILL DRIVE IT'LL, IT'LL INCREASE AS AN ASSET TO THE CITY. IT'LL, IT'LL DRIVE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'LL DRAW, DRAW PEOPLE IN MORE PEOPLE IN FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WELCOME THAT, THAT THAT HELPS THE CITY. AND SO, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I, IF I CAN, I CAN PROMOTE WHEN YOU'RE READY TO, TO WORK ON THAT BECAUSE IT WILL REQUIRE WORK AND TIME, I CAN, I CAN BRING THAT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE, THE, THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO DO. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL AND NEEDED. AND SO AND GET, GET CITY COUNCIL'S BLESSING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO PROCEED FORWARD DOING THAT. MIKE, I AGREE WITH YOU IN A LOT OF WAYS. I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE NOW, I THINK FOUR YEARS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES I DO ASK MY SAME THAT SAME QUESTION, WHAT THE HECK ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING ON THIS THING? WHERE IS EVEN OUR WHAT ARE WE EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE DOING? YOU KNOW, I STILL DEAL WITH THAT. AND I THINK A LOT OF IT IS WE'LL TAKE A STEP FORWARD AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL COME IN AND BE LIKE, NO, DON'T WON'T BE DOING THAT. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. AND I SEE NO. SO JUST WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW. IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO CROSS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN LINE WITH GREG ON, ON SOME OF THIS STUFF. YOU DON'T WANT TO LIKE STEP ON HIS TOES ON THINGS THAT HE FEELS ARE, ARE HIS DUTY. SO I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT. BUT FOR US JUST TO COME UP WITH IDEAS ABOUT WHAT CAN BE, WHAT CAN MAKE THE GOLF COURSE EVEN MORE BENEFICIAL. I MEAN, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A GENERAL QUESTION THAT WE SHOULD ASK. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW GREG WANTS TO MARKET IT. I THINK THAT IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT CAN IT BE USED FOR? WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? WHAT ABOUT THE RESTAURANT? SO THEY LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE SAT HERE AND TALKED ABOUT AND THIS WAS BEFORE A LOT OF Y'ALL WERE EVEN ON, ON THIS COMMITTEE, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE WHOLE BACK PART OF THAT, OF THAT BUILDING THAT'S JUST THERE, THAT LOOKS HORRIBLE. YOU KNOW THAT. WHAT COULD YOU DO WITH THAT? COULD THE CITY INVEST SOME MONEY AND JUST AND BUILD LIKE A PATIO OFF OF THE DEAL AND HAVE LIKE SOMETHING THAT KIND OF RESEMBLES WHAT THE CADDYSHACK IS OVER IN JOINT VENTURE? YOU KNOW? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO THEY WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CHARGE MORE RENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO EVERYBODY IS RUNNING THE RESTAURANT. BUT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REASON THAT CAN'T BE A CENTRALIZED PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO IF THERE'S JUST A LITTLE MONEY PUT INTO IT. AND SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO, I MEAN, WE CAN GO BACK AND WE, WE KIND OF WENT, WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, WE KIND OF WENT DOWN THIS PATH BEFORE AND HAD NO PROBLEM GOING BACK DOWN AGAIN TO THE POINT WE GOT, WE GOT BIDS AND STUFF IN THAT JUST THAT TOLD US HOW MUCH SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD COST AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING BACK DOWN THAT AND MAYBE THIS COUNCIL'S DIFFERENT, THIS ISN'T THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COUNCIL.

THERE'S WHAT YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MEMBERS HAVE ONLY BEEN THERE LESS THAN TWO YEARS? I MEAN, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE. SO I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT MINDSET

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I MEAN, THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT THAT BUT WE DON'T KNOW. AND SO I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE, JESS. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THOSE PEOPLE. THROW IT AT THE WALL AND SEE IF IT STICKS. AND I MEAN, EVEN AS A KID, MY THING WAS I WAS GOING TO ASK MY PARENTS BECAUSE IF THEY SAID NO, IF I NEVER ASKED, I NEVER KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO SAY NO. SO I ALWAYS ASKED. EVEN I KNEW THE ANSWER WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE NO. I STILL WANTED TO ASK, AND I STILL KIND OF LIVE BY THAT TODAY. IT'S LIKE, WHY NOT ASK? WHY CAN'T YOU DO THIS? WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT? AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THE ANSWER IS NO, THAT'S FINE. THEN WE KNOW AND WE MOVE ON. SO THE PROBLEM IS THE CITY COUNCIL ISN'T GOING TO BE WILLING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE CLUBHOUSE UNTIL WE'RE PROFITABLE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO INVEST ANY MONEY UNTIL THE GOLF COURSE. BUT IN MY AND I'LL JUST TALK A MINUTE, MIKE AND MIKE'S, WHAT HE'S SAYING IS FIVE YEARS. WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE WE'RE PROFITABLE IN TWO YEARS. SO MAYBE IN YEAR 3 OR 4. HEY, OKAY. LET'S FOCUS NOW ON WHAT WE CAN DO HERE. YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF GOT THE GOLF COURSE GOING IN A CERTAIN WAY BECAUSE THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ENTITY. YES.

THAT WHOLE RESTAURANT IS I MEAN, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE GOLF COURSE PER SE. IT IS, BUT IT ISN'T. AND SO UNDER GREG'S BUDGET, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THINK THERE WAS. I DON'T THINK SO EITHER BY THE ICE MACHINE THAT WAS JUST PUT IN. DUSTIN AND I HAD A LONG TALK WHILE WE WERE PLAYING OUR MATCH, AND ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN THAT RESTAURANT THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED, THE AIR CONDITIONER IN THE PLACE THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED, IT GOES, GREG, GREG, GREG, BUDGET. WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT TOO, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EMERGENCY BUTTON MAN, WE DON'T KNOW. THIS THING HAS COME. THEY NEED TO THE CITY NEEDS TO INVEST SOME MONEY INTO THE BOTTOM PART OF THIS CALENDAR. NOW GO AHEAD. MIKE, WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY? I JUST THINK ANYTHING YOU SHOULD HAVE A STRATEGY WITH SOME OBJECTIVES. I DON'T THINK FIVE YEARS IS REALLY TOO FAR OUT. THE FIRST PERSON I WOULD ASK WOULD BE GREG. GREG, NOW YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE RUN GOLF COURSES BEFORE. YOU GOT THIS 55 YEAR OLD CLUBHOUSE. TELL ME TOP THREE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED IN THE CLUBHOUSE AND HOW THAT WOULD HELP YOU DRIVE MORE REVENUE OR DECREASE YOUR EXPENSES EITHER WAY. RIGHT. IT'S GOOD. AND WHAT'S YOUR WISH LIST? AND THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE YOU COULD YOU COULD BE ASKING CITY MANAGER, WHAT'S YOUR WISH LIST FOR THE GOLF COURSE IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS? AND, AND UNTIL YOU ASK, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO WORK WITH. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT US TRYING TO IMAGINE THIS ALL BY OURSELVES. NO, THAT DOESN'T WORK. BUT GETTING INPUT FROM PEOPLE ASKING THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS, I IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME WHO. I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHO WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER IT WAS, BUT NUMBER ONE. AND ON WHAT SHOULD WE BE WORKING ON? MADE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD GO BACK TO COUNCIL EVERY 90 DAYS. HERE'S OUR PROGRESS ON IT. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE COMING UP WITH.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MONEY. WE'RE WORKING ON, ON, ON VISION, AND WE'RE WORKING ON WHERE WE WANT TO START PUTTING MONEY. IF, WHEN THE GOLF COURSE BECOMES PROFITABLE AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT TO EITHER DECREASE OUR EXPENSES OR INCREASE THE REVENUE. AND I THINK THAT'S A WORTHWHILE JOB FOR ANY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO DO ON ANY SUBJECT. THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF THAT WAS IN THESE COMMENTS THAT I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T DISCUSS THEM, THERE'S KIND OF LIKE, WHY DO WE EVEN DO THIS? WHY DO WE EVEN TALK TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS? WE GET THIS FEEDBACK AND WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT. WELL, I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH, WELL, I JUST THINK THE CITY COUNCIL I'M SORRY. I'M KIND OF NEGATIVE. THEY NEED A LITTLE EDUCATION. THIS ONE PERSON SAYING MANAGING PUBLIC PERCEPTION. CURRENTLY THE GOLF COURSE IS A NICHE AND EXCLUSIVE TO THE PAR. I AGREE BEING AVAILABLE TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC.

I AGREE, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING. I JUST WE'RE JUST TAKING THE NOTES.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE ARTICLE IS GOING TO BE ALL ABOUT. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE TEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE THEM LOOK AT THE SAME THING. YOU'LL GET TEN DIFFERENT PERCEPTIONS. OUR JOB IS TO IF WE CAN INFLUENCE THAT PERCEPTION, WE'RE WE'RE WINNING. I JUST WANT TO TAKE US BACK AGAIN. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE SUBJECT, BUT TAKE US BACK. A YEAR AGO, WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THE PLAN TOGETHER AND IT BASICALLY STARTED OUT WITH ASKING THIS OF THE PEOPLE THAT

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CAN WE MOVE TO THIS NOW? AS AN ADDENDUM, CAN YOU TAKE THAT TO THE COUNCIL AND JUST SAY THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS A COMMITTEE. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD YES, I CAN DO THAT. AND AND SECONDLY, I THINK, WELL, WE'RE AT A DIFFERENT PLACE NOW WHEN WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS LOSING 900 000, IT WAS IT WAS DIFFICULT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN A POSITIVE WAY ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE FUTURE AND HOW MUCH BETTER THE GOLF COURSE CAN BE. BUT I WE REALLY ARE AT A DIFFERENT PLACE. AND SO WITHIN SO, YOU KNOW, AS GREG IS SAYING, WE, WE CAN SEE THAT GOLF COURSE BREAKING EVEN NOW, WHETHER WHETHER THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED DURING THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR OR NOT IS, IS GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE.

BUT LOOKING AHEAD IN TERMS OF A FIVE YEAR PLAN, YES. I MEAN, NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY AND AND THIS COMMITTEE COULD LOOK AT WHAT THE GOLF COURSE AND THE CLUBHOUSE SHOULD BE. AND I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WOULD I THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE NOW. I MEAN, I LOOK AT IT AS IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN I WANT TO TAKE A TRIP TO ITALY. I KNOW I CAN'T DO IT THIS YEAR. IT'S A GOAL I HAVE IN FIVE YEARS. I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ATTAIN THAT, BUT I WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE AS A GOAL. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF AGREEING TO. MIKE, IT IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE CAN PUT THESE THINGS OUT THERE AND WILL THEY EVER COME TO FRUITION? WE DON'T KNOW. BUT IT DOESN'T HURT FOR US TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS THE BEST CASE SCENARIO THAT WE CAN SEE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE NUMBERS. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS PORTION OF IT. NOW LET US START BRAINSTORMING ON WHAT CAN MAKE THIS EVEN BETTER. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT'S POSSIBLE. AND THEN WITH THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME DIGGING. WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION RIGHT OFF THE BAT. WELL, IF YOU DID ANYTHING TO THE CLUBHOUSE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? I MEAN, WOULD YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE CART SOMEWHERE? I MEAN, IS THAT EVEN FEASIBLE TO EVEN DO THAT? IS IT FEASIBLE TO GO BACK TO ELECTRIC CARTS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO DO? AND THEN YOU KEEP IT UNDERNEATH? I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE BATTERIES EXPLODE TOO.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ANSWERS ARE. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW LOGISTICALLY, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ASK AND FIGURE OUT. AND THEN WE JUST BRAINSTORM. THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE THINK WOULD JUST MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, AN EVEN BETTER PLACE AND MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING PLACE AT THAT? I MEAN, THE, THE TRAP WE DON'T WANT TO FALL INTO, THOUGH, IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO TURN INTO THIS. ONCE A MONTH.

WE GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DON'T LIKE OR WHAT WE CAN IMPROVE WITH. NO, I DON'T THINK WE CAN. THAT WE ACTUALLY DO DEVELOP SOME REAL FOCUS, TOTALLY AGREE ON THINGS WE CAN WORK ON AND MOVE FORWARD ON THOSE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S REAL EASY FOR THERE ALWAYS TO BE SOMETHING NEW. NO, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, TO GET A FEW, A COUPLE THINGS. I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF BRAINSTORM E-BIKES ON A, ON A FEW, FEW LITTLE THINGS. AND THEN FROM THOSE THINGS, THAT'S WHAT WE FOCUS IN ON AND WE FOCUS IN ON, LIKE I SAID, LET'S JUST SAY RIGHT NOW THE CLUBHOUSE, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CLUBHOUSE. YES, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT. EXACTLY.

NOT JUST SAY, OKAY, WE JUST THINK THE CLUBHOUSE SHOULD BE BE BETTER. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE WE SAY? I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS. I'M JUST LOOKING AT FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO WITH THE WORK, BUT THAT'S IT. ROLL OUT. THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE. HERE'S WHAT CAN BE DONE. YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE POSITIVES. HERE'S THE NEGATIVES.

YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CASES WE NEED TO DO? WE JUST THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. SO I'M WITH YOU ON THAT. IT'S LIKE, I THINK WE COME UP WITH 3 TO 5 THINGS THAT WE THINK, HEY, THIS WOULD HELP OUT IF WE DID THIS. AND THEN WE KIND OF EVEN DO THEM IN ORDER. WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE? AND WE KIND OF GO FROM THERE. AND WE START WITH ASKING GREG'S OPINION. WE START ASKING GREG, I AGREE. WE ASK GREG, HEY, I DON'T CARE. I THINK THE WAY WE HAVE TO GO TO GREG ABOUT IT IS I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BUSINESS SIDE, I

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AND THERE'S NO WATER REALLY COMES OUT OF THE FAUCETS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO WASH YOUR HANDS. OURS IS FINE. NOT IN THE AM I WRONG, AM I WRONG? YOU ARE NOT WRONG. YEAH. YOU PUSH IT ON ALL THE WAY AND IT'S JUST BARELY TRICKLES OUT ON BOTH SINKS. YOU'RE LIKE, YEAH, OKAY.

AND I'M, YOU KNOW, AND I'M LIKE THAT TOO. I'M LIKE, TO ME, IT'S AND I KIND OF SAID THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS, IT WAS LIKE, HAVE THE FREAKING WATER TANKS PAINTED, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE THINGS DON'T NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, WIRED TOGETHER WITH WIRE, YOU KNOW, THAT I MEAN, PUT A LOCK ON THERE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THINGS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE PLEASING ON IT? I MEAN, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADOPT A I MEAN, THEY DID THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT KIND OF LIKE ADOPT A, A HOLE FOR SPONSORSHIP OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, BUT THAT'S ON. GREG. BUT WELL, IT IS AND IT'S NOT, BUT I THINK IT'S YEAH, IT'S THAT IS KIND OF MORE ADVERTISING. BUT BUT THAT STUFF THOUGH, WE CAN GO AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE WE CAN GO TO THEN THE, THE CHAMBER AND BE LIKE, HEY, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? HOW CAN WE GET THIS GOING ON THAT? BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S IN GREG'S DEAL. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S LIKE, IF WE CAN GET THAT GOING, WHY NOT NOW? HE MIGHT NOT WANT IT STARTED UNTIL EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED AND THAT OKAY, THAT'S FINE. YES. BUT IT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE GO DOWN THAT HAVE IT ON A TWO YEAR, FOUR YEAR GOAL. YEAH. BECAUSE I WILL SAY THIS WHEN I DRIVE THE HIGHLANDS, THE DEFUNCT GOLF COURSE. EVERY HOLE I WAS LIKE, THIS PLACE WAS NICE. OH, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY NICE. LIKE WHEN YOU COULD JUST TELL BY JUST EVERY HOLE HAD A BENCH, EVERY HOLE HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT WAS PLEASANT TO LOOK AT. AND THEN I'M SEEING I'M EVEN SAYING LIKE NOW IN THE DEFUNCT MODE, IT IS, IT'S STILL SOME OF IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. AND YOU'RE LIKE, MAN, THAT'D BE KIND OF COOL JUST TO HAVE ON OUR COURSE THE ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT OVER HERE. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M LIKE THAT I THINK OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE, TAKE IT. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT, DRIVE OVER THERE, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT STUFF STILL THERE. AND YOU'RE LIKE, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE. THAT'D BE NICE TO HAVE OVER AT OUR COURSE. YEAH. I BET YOU THE, THE MGA AND THE WGA WOULD BE GOOD RESOURCES TOO. THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME GOOD IDEAS AS TO THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE CLUBHOUSE. OH, THESE LADIES, YOU OUGHT TO HEAR THEM IN THE CLUBHOUSE. NO, NO, SERIOUSLY, AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WE GET GET INPUT FROM, NO WE SHOULD. I THINK THAT REFLECTS BACK TO THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THIS SHOULD NOT BE A JUST US, RIGHT? WE NEED TO ASK IF WE'RE GOING TO WE NEED TO ASK PEOPLE, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK? WHAT DO YOU WANT WHEN WE START WITH GREG? BUT I EVEN THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, YOUR FELLOW GAR MEMBERS, OUR MGA MEMBERS, FIRST WE NEED TO GET HIM TO GET THE COUNCIL. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S FIRST. BUT I'M SAYING BECAUSE WE COULD GO DOWN THIS. YEAH, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ASK PEERS, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. WHAT WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THOSE OF US THAT LIVE ON THE COURSE. YEAH.

TALK TO ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS. I JUST WANT THEM TO EAT. EAT. GREG. GET A. WHEN HE WAS APPLYING FOR THAT GRANT, DIDN'T THEY DO SOME KIND OF AN ASSESSMENT OF THINGS? YES. IS THAT IS THERE ANY USEFUL INFORMATION IN THERE FOR US? I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT HE GAVE ME. I THINK SOME OF IT'S IN THERE. THE ASSESSMENT PIECE. YEAH. NOT, NOT THE GRANT PIECE, BUT THE BECAUSE THEY, THEY THEY THEY TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR GOLF COURSE,

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OKAY. SO I'LL GIVE HIM LIKE A WEEK OR SO TO GET IT OUT. I KNOW HE IS RIGHT NOW SUPER BUSY.

AND SO YEAH, I'LL WAIT A WEEK. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR JUSTIN BASED ON SOME OF THIS FEEDBACK. THIS PARKS MASTER PARKS MASTER PLAN. WE'RE WORKING ON PUTTING SOME INPUT INTO THAT LAST YEAR. RIGHT? AND THEN IT KIND OF DIED NOT FROM US, BUT CITY COUNCIL. WHAT'S IS THAT SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD BE COMPREHENSIVE PARK PLAN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE AND I'M TRYING TO ANSWER HER, BUT THAT WAS LIKE THE LAST I HEARD ON THAT. IT WAS PUT TOGETHER AND THEY WERE UPSET. THE CONSULTANCY, RIGHT. THE CONSULTANT DID IT. AND SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE THEY WERE ALMOST REDOING IT. IS THAT AN ACTIVE THING? WE HAVE A WE HAVE A NEW. PARKS AND REC, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE ACTIVE. AND I, BUT I, YOU KNOW, THEY THAT'S TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S JUST BEEN ACTIVATED AND, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING COME OUT OF THAT YET. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY MEETINGS THEY'VE HAD. SO. BUT NOW THAT YOU RAISE THE QUESTION. YEAH, I MEAN IT. I WONDER WHETHER I MEAN DOES THAT AFFECT US AS PART OF THE YOU KNOW. YEAH. IS PART OF TO ME, PART OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES. SO SO DO WE NEED TO BE PUTTING INPUT INTO THAT? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WELL, WE DID AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE DID LAST YEAR. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO IT WASN'T THERE FALLOUT IS THE IS THE PARK PLAN PART OF THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE CITY PLAN THEY WERE DOING? AND THERE WAS SOME BAD FALLOUT. I KNOW, RIGHT CONTRACTOR THEY HAD. RIGHT. AND THE REPORT THAT YOU GUYS GOT BACK, I DON'T KNOW WHERE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT STOOD. WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING SINCE THEN, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE STATUS AND BE INVOLVED IN IS MY QUESTION. WE WE GAVE OUR FEEDBACK, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS OUR FEEDBACK DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY. CORRECT. THE CONSULTANT DIDN'T DID NOT INCLUDE IT. IN THE FINAL REPORT. SO WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SITS RIGHT NOW WITH THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW. CAN YOU FIND THAT OUT FOR US, JESS? OH, ABSOLUTELY. YES. NO PROBLEM. I WILL DO THAT. YEAH. AND NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT MY CURIOSITY, CURIOSITY UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT STANDS. I ENGAGE IT, I HIT IT ON. I JUST THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPORT WAS PUT TOGETHER. THEN IT WAS LIKE, WELL, THIS IS TRASH. YES. RIGHT. THE CONSULTANT WAS HALF AN ASSOCIATES. SO IF YOU CAN FIND OUT THAT. SO WE MEET AGAIN. WE'LL KIND OF KNOW SOMETHING THERE. THIS IS THINGS ARE GOING TO BE RIPPED OFF HERE. SO. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER. THEN WE NEED A TABLE TALK ABOUT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A SHORT MEETING BUT WE WENT A LITTLE BIT. BUT THESE ARE GOOD DISCUSSIONS AND I APPRECIATE IT. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S MY FIRST YEAR OF BEING CHAIR. I NEED TO KNOCK UPSIDE THE HEAD EVERY SO OFTEN TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO BE GOING IN. SO I APPRECIATE IT. SO, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY IN THE NEXT MEETING, LET'S GO THROUGH THE WORK PLAN.

LET'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO IN SUCH DETAIL, BUT JUST KIND OF LOOK OVER IT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A COPY AND SEND THIS OFF IT OR DO I GOT IT. I GOT IT AS PART OF THE HANDOUTS OF THE MEETING THAT COUNCIL APPROVED IT AT. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE I PRINTED IT FROM. OKAY. LET ME LOOK TO I THINK, NO, IT WAS PART OF WHAT WE. LARRY SCHMIDT RIGHT. IT WAS A COUPLE OF THEM. YEAH. WE WERE CIRCULATING SOMETHING BETWEEN US, SO WE SHOULD HAVE IT. CAN YOU LOOK AT EMAIL SOMEWHERE AND SEND IT BACK OUT TO US? I MEAN, JUST SO JASON CAN HAVE A COPY AND WE CAN JUST ALL REFRESH OURSELVES AND LET'S REFRESH OURSELVES.

AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO NEXT MEETING, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO IN LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW, CRUNCH HOUR AND A HALF, EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT LET'S AT LEAST LOOK OVER IT AND KIND OF COME WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ABOUT. AND THEN HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU WHEN WE MEET NEXT TIME, YOU'LL HAVE KIND OF AN ANSWER FOR US FROM A STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, CAN WE START LOOKING AT MOVING TOWARDS A 5 TO 10 YEAR PLAN OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT. SO AND ANYTHING THAT YOU SEND OUT, MAKE SURE, MAKE SURE I GET A COPY. YEAH. YEAH, DEFINITELY. OKAY. NEXT

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HOPEFULLY THE SPURS ARE DOING IT TONIGHT. WELL. WELL, THE ASTROS AREN'T. I JUST SAW THAT SCORE. THEY DID REAL WELL OVER THE LAST FOUR DAYS. AND I'LL TURN IT ON AND I'LL GO. I WAS LIKE WHOA THAT'S BAD. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN THEN MOVE TO ADJOURN SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. YOU GOT IT. ALRIGHTY THEN. MOTION TO ADJOU

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