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[I. CALL TO ORDER, CALL OF ROLL]
RIGHT, TIME IS 2:11 PM WE WILL BEGIN THIS MEETING OF THE LAGO VISTA CITY COUNCIL.I DO HAVE EXCUSED ABSENCES FOR, UH, COUNSELORS, KAREN VAN NESS, AND, UH, COUNSELOR JESS HALL.
[II. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.[III. ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS]
THE COUNCIL HAS NOW RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.AND NOW WE'LL GO INTO, WE'LL NOW READ, UH, EACH EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM AND CALL IF THERE WAS ANY ACTION.
AND I'LL LET OUR, UH, MAYOR FOR THE DAY MAYOR NEED, UH, GO THROUGH AND READ IT.
ASK IF IT'S ACTION TAKEN AFTER.
AND THEN I'LL DO THE MOTION EX EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ORDINANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.
TITLE FIVE, SUB SUBCHAPTER D SECTION 5 5 1 0.07.
ONE PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH ITS ATTORNEY TO SEEK ADVICE ABOUT LEGAL MATTERS, SUBJECT TO ATTORNEY SLASH CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
AND SECTION 5 5 1, UM, 0 7 4 DELIBERATION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE AND I READ, AND B, RIGHT? MM-HMM
A RECIPIENT OF LEGAL ADVICE FROM CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL QUESTIONS RELATED TO CHARTER AND INTERPRETATION THEREOF.
DELIBERATION REGARDING RESPECTIVE DUTIES AND ROLE OF CITY MANAGER APPOINTED MEMBERS AND COUNCILS REGARDING CITY PERSONNEL.
I JUST ASK COUNCIL, ANY ACTION? ANY ACTION, MAYOR, NO.
DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF ANY REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, UM, 5 5 1 0 7 2 IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE SAME PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 1 0 7 1.
CONSULT, CONSULT WITH CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT.
ACTION TAKEN, MAYOR, NO ACTION CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 1 0 7 1 REGARDING LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO ONE OR MORE ITEMS LISTED IN THIS AGENDA WHERE CONFIDENTIAL ATTORNEY CLIENT ADVICE IS NECESSARY.
ACTION TAKEN, MAYOR, NO ACTION
ALRIGHT, AND I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FORCE, TEXAS FLAG, THE TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.
ONE AN INDIVISIBLE INVOCATION.
STAY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
I THINK WE HAVE PASTOR MARK HERE.
JOIN ME IN PRAYER OUR DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER.
LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU LORD, WITH PRAISE ON OUR LIPS.
'CAUSE YOU'RE AWARE OF OUR PRAISE.
AND WE COME LORD WITH GRATITUDE IN OUR HEARTS.
LORD, FOR YOU HAVE BLESSED US ABUNDANTLY.
SOMETIMES WE FORGET HOW GREAT OF A COUNTRY WE LIVE IN, THE FANS OF FIFA LORD AND ALL OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS HAVE REMINDED US HOW GREAT OUR COUNTRY IS.
THANK YOU LORD FOR THAT REMINDER.
SOMETIMES, LORD, WE FORGET HOW GREAT OF A CITY WE LIVE IN.
ALL THE NEW PEOPLE MOVING HERE AND DESIRING TO MOVE HERE, REMIND US HOW GREAT OUR TOWN IS.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER TOO.
YOU'VE GIVEN US ALL TALENTS, LORD.
YOU'VE GIVEN SOME HERE LORD, POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY.
WE ASK THAT THOSE IN AUTHORITY, LORD, WILL LEAD US LORD, WITH THE MANNERISMS AND THE HEART OF A SERVANT AS YOU LET US LORD, WHILE YOU WERE WALKING AMONG LORD.
BUT WE ASK LORD, THAT AS WE INTERFAITH AND SPEAK TO THOSE IN AUTHORITY, THAT WE WOULD DO SO.
LORD, WITH RESPECT FOR YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT ALL AUTHORITY COMES FROM YOU.
YOUR WORD ALSO TELLS US, GOD, THAT FROM THE OVERFLOW OF THE HEART, THE MOUTH SPEAKS.
WE BRING OUR IDEAS AND OUR DESIRES HERE TONIGHT, LORD, TO SHARE, LORD, TO TALK ABOUT IN HOPES, LORD, THAT THEY MAY BE APPROVED AND SOME WILL AND SOME WON'T.
IN THAT CASE, LORD, IF THE OVERFLOW
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OF OUR HEART IS OUR MOUTH SPEAKS, WE DO ASK THAT THE WORDS OF OUR MOUTH AND THE MEDITATION OF OUR HEART BE PLEASING.UN TO THE NAME OF YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAY.
[VI. CITIZEN COMMENTS]
SUSAN COMMENTS AND THEN YOU'LL READ THIS NAME, YOU'LL COME UP AND TALK.WE'RE NOW TAKING CITIZEN COMMENTS.
UM, WHAT WAS THAT, CHRISSY? CHRISSY, BOR.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A, A QUESTION FOR CITY MANAGER? IS THERE ANY REASON THAT THE REQUEST THAT WAS JUST MADE COULD NOT BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA? WE ALREADY HAVE IT ON THE LIST.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER ONE I THINK IT HAS.
NICK, WERE YOU DOING PUBLIC COMMENTS? YEAH, I CAN.
MAYOR, UH, MR. BENEFIELD, CITY MANAGER, IS THERE ANY REASON THAT WE CANNOT FULFILL MS UH, VOLA KING'S REQUEST? NO, THERE'S NO REASON THAT CAN'T BE ADDED.
I BELIEVE WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON A, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE THAT TOPIC WILL BE DISCUSSED.
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NICOLE? HOLD ON REAL QUICK.UM, TOLD THAT THE PODIUM'S NOT ON.
OKAY, WELL, I GUESS, YES, I DID IT.
IT'S ME BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK ON MEMORIAL DAY
SO, UH, UP IN THE BREWERY THIS WEEKEND TO START TAKING THOSE DONATIONS IN FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DONATE TO THE SCHOOL'S NEEDS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LIST OF THINGS SET UP OUT THERE TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN BRING ITEMS IN AND DONATE AND WE CAN GET THOSE TO THE SCHOOLS.
UM, LIKEWISE, WE DO THE VFW DOES, UH, SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THAT IS THE VOICE OF DEMOCRACY.
AND, UM, PATRIOTS PEN, WHICH IS AN ESSAY PROGRAM WHERE STUDENTS AT HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL CAN WRITE AN ESSAY.
AND ON THE TOPICS THAT'S PRESENTED FOR THIS, FOR THIS YEAR, I DO BELIEVE WHAT IS A VETERAN TAUGHT TO YOU? UH, TO BE A BETTER CITIZEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, THEY WILL SUBMIT THAT TO ON ONLINE AND THEN THEY WILL BE, UH, EVALUATED.
JUDGE, OUR LOCAL POST WILL GET, RECEIVE OURS FROM OUR SCHOOL.
WE'LL EVALUATE THOSE AND LOCK, UH, UH, BLINDLY VOTE ON THE WINNER, THAT THEN THAT WINNER WILL THEN GO UP TO DISTRICT AND THEN RE UH, STATE AND THEN NATIONAL.
THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT CAN BE RAISED, AND EVEN IF THE STUDENT TAKES LIKE SECOND OR THIRD OR FOURTH, THEY STILL WILL RECEIVE SOME MONIES, BUT, UH, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, WRITE, UH, PARTICIPATE THE FOLLOWING YEAR AS WELL.
AND SO THOSE MONIES CAN ACCUMULATE FOR THEM THROUGH THE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS. SO ONE OF THE, UH, A COUPLE IN, UH, INITIATIVES THAT ARE ON THIS TODAY THAT I SUPPORT OBVIOUSLY IS, UH, THE, UM, TEXAS, UH, VETERANS, UH, COMMISSION.
COMMISSION, UH, IS GOING TO CONDUCT A VETERANS, UH, FAIR, SO TO SPEAK FOR US OUT HERE AT, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL GYM ON AUGUST 8TH.
AND THAT WILL BE FROM 10 TO 11, I DO BELIEVE.
10 TO TWO, I'M SORRY, UH, WANTED TO SHORTEN IT UP.
BUT, UH, THEY WILL BE SET OUT AND, UH, WITH TENTS OR TABLES SET UP SO THEY CAN, UH, ADVISE WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL VETERANS.
UH, ADDITIONALLY WE OPENED THAT UP TO NOT JUST LAGO VISTA, BUT ALSO TO THE RESOURCE CENTER OUT IN CEDAR PARK.
UM, ALL THE VFW POSTS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT AS WELL AS VETERANS TO TRAVIS COUNTY.
UM, ADDITIONALLY TO THAT IS IF WE HAVE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE VETERAN KNOWN OR SERVICE VETERANS, THEIR, UH, THEY GET ME THEIR BUSINESS NAME AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WE CAN PUT THAT OUT AND THEY CAN AS WELL PROVIDE A TABLE FOR THEM AT THE, AT THE, THE FAIR SO THEY CAN, UH, KIND OF GET SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR BUSINESS SPREAD OUT THERE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I KINDA, AUGUST 7TH IS PURPLE HEART, NATIONAL PURPLE HEART DAY, WHERE WE RECOGNIZE OUR PURPLE HEART VETERANS.
UM, AND ASSOCIA, UH, ASSOCIATION WITH THAT.
I KIND OF TOLD THE MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO SEE VETERANS ONLY GET ONE DAY A YEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE, UH, VETERANS GET, UH, RECOGNIZED LONGER THAN JUST ONE DAY.
'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP TO A, AN EVENT AND THAT'S MAYBE A COUPLE HOURS AND THAT'S IT.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO, ON THE INITIATIVE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, DOING A, UH, VETERANS, UH, MONTH FOR LAGO VISTA AND THE, THE AREA HERE WHERE FOR THAT MONTH WE CAN RECOGNIZE CERTAIN VETERANS, UH, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
IT'S NOT JUST VETERANS OF FOREIGN WARS, BUT ALL VETERANS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I THINK THERE, THERE'S A LOT.
I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON, BUT YOU, OUR TIME'S LIMITED.
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LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY SENIOR VICE COMMANDER, UH, KURT WEBER.I GOTTA GO TAKE CARE OF HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN MY, UH, UH, BENEFITS ADVISOR, UH, THOMAS WELLMAN, UH, FOR THE POST.
SO THESE, THEY'LL BE SENT HERE FOR THE MEETING AND, UH, TAKING NOTES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS.
UM, SO I JUST SAY MAYOR FOR THE DAY SLASH YOUTH REPORT, UH, JUST, JUST HEADING THERE.
[VII. PRESENTATIONS & PROCLAMATIONS]
PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS.DO I HAVE, UH, ALI HERE? OKAY, SO OUR FIRST, UH, PROCLAMATION HERE THAT I'M GONNA LET THE MAYOR FOR THE DAY READ IS THE HOT CAR AWARENESS DAY.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US BY SALY AND, UH, WE'LL READ THROUGH HERE AND THEN COME DOWN AND, AND GIVE IT TO YOU.
WHEREAS A PETRI VEHICULAR HEAT STROKE IS ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF NON CRASH RELATED FATALITIES IN VEHICLES FOR CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 15, WITH MORE THAN A THOUSAND LIVES LOST IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE 1998.
AND WHEREAS THE CHILDREN'S BODY TEMPERATURE RISES THREE TO FIVE TIMES FASTER THAN THAT OF AN ADULT.
AND DEATH CAN OCCUR WHEN A CHILD'S CORE BODY TEMPERATURE REACHES 107 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, A THRESHOLD THAT CAN BE REACHED WITHIN MINUTES IN A HOT VEHICLE.
AND WHEREAS ON A TYPICAL 70 DEGREE DAY, THE INTERIOR TEMPERATURE OF A VEHICLE CAN EXCEED 115 DEGREES IN JUST 30 MINUTES.
AND NEITHER PARKING IN THE SHADE NOR CRACKING IN WINDOWS PROVIDES A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR A CHILD OR PET, AND OR HAS RESEARCHED, DEMONSTRATES THAT THESE TRAGEDIES CAN HAPPEN TO ANY CAREGIVER REGARDLESS OF EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE, OR PERSONALITY, AND ARE OFTEN ASSOCIATED WITH FACTORS SUCH AS CHANGES IN ROUTINE SLEEP DEPRIVATION, STRESS, OR DISTRACTIONS.
AND OR HAS PROJECT SAFE RIDE F FUNDED BY THE LOCAL YOUTH ADVOCATE.
SALLY REHA SERVES AS A VITAL COMMU, SORRY, DID I SAY YOUR NAME RIGHT? IT'S SALLY RAJA.
UM, SERVES AS A VITAL COMMUNITY INITIATIVE DEDICATED TO RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT PEDIATRIC VEHICULAR, HEAT STROKE, AND EMPOWERING FAMILIES WITH EDUCATION, TECHNOLOGY, AND REMINDER SYSTEMS TO PREVENT THESE ENTIRELY AVOIDABLE TRAGEDIES AND MORE HAS INCREASING PUBLIC AWARENESS AND ENCOURAGING PREVENTATIVE ACTIONS CAN SAVE LIVES AND HELP ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF CHILDREN THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
SO SHANE SOM, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LA VISTA, TEXAS DUE, HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 1ST, 2026 AS HOT CAR AWARENESS DAY IN THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, AND COMMUNITY ORGAN ORGANIZATIONS TO JOIN IN RAISING AWARENESS OF PEDIATRIC VEHICULAR, HEAT STROKE, PROMOTING PREVENTATIVE STRATEGIES, HELPING PROTECT CHILDREN FROM THESE PREVENTABLE STRATEGIES.
DID YOU WANNA COME FORWARD AND TELL US HOW YOU, UH, GOT INVOLVED IN THIS AND, AND WHERE THIS INITIATIVE CAME FROM? UM, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR SAM AND MAYOR NEIL AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, MY NAME IS S RAJA AND I'M THE FOUNDER OF PROJECT SAFE RIDE, A NATIONAL INITIATIVE DEDICATED TO PREVENTING PEDIATRIC VEHICLE OR HEAT STROKE AND PET HEAT STROKE TRAGEDIES.
UM, I WANNA SINCERELY THANK THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA FOR RECOGNIZING MAY 1ST IS HOT CAR AWARENESS DAY.
YOUR SUPPORT MEANS SO MUCH, NOT ONLY TO ME, BUT TO FAMILIES ACROSS TEXAS AND BEYOND.
EVERY YEAR, DOZENS OF CHILDREN LOSE THEIR LIVES AFTER BEING UNINTENTIONALLY LEFT IN VEHICLES.
THESE TRAGEDIES ARE HEARTBREAKING BECAUSE THEY ARE ENTIRELY PREVENTABLE.
RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THESE INCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN TO ANY CAREGIVER, OFTEN DURING MOMENTS OF STRESS, EXHAUSTION, OR A SIMPLE CHANGE IN ROUTINE.
WHEN I FOUNDED PROJECT SAFE RIDE, I WASN'T AN EXPERT IN PUBLIC HEALTH OR TECHNOLOGY.
I WAS SIMPLY A STUDENT WHO LEARNED ABOUT A PROBLEM AND COULDN'T IGNORE IT.
SINCE THEN, PROJECT SAFE RIDE HAS GROWN INTO A NATIONAL INITIATIVE THAT HAS REACHED 10 STATES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, FOCUSED ON EDUCATION, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND A SIMPLE REMINDER, SIMPLE REMINDER TOOLS THAT HELP FAMILIES BUILD SAFER HABITS.
LAGO VISTA IS KNOWN FOR BEING A CLOSE-KNIT AND CARING COMMUNITY.
AND TODAY'S PROCLAMATION REFLECTS THOSE VALUES.
BY RAISING AWARENESS, YOU'RE HELPING ENSURE THAT MORE PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, BABYSITTERS, AND PET OWNERS REMEMBER TO TAKE ONE LAST LOOK BEFORE WALKING AWAY FROM THEIR VEHICLE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR STANDING WITH PROJECT SAFE RIDE AND FOR SHOWING THAT PROTECTING OUR MOST VULNERABLE PASSENGERS IS A RESPONSIBILITY WE ALL SHARE.
TOGETHER WE CAN WORK TOWARD A FUTURE WHERE THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN AND PETS LOST IN HOT CARS IS ZERO.
IF YOU WANNA COME UP HERE, WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE, UH, WITH YOUR PROCLAMATION.
WANNA APPRECIATE THAT YOU BRING THIS, I GUESS THE THEME OF THE EARLY PART OF TODAY'S MEETING IS HOW IMPRESSIVE OUR YOUTH ARE IN GETTING OUT THERE
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AND ADVOCATING.UH, SO WE REALLY THANK YOU, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, WE'RE IN THE HOTTEST PART OF THE YEAR COMING UP RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE.
ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE PROCLAMATION HERE.
UH, THIS IS RECOGNIZING SUMMER NEED AS OUR MAYOR FOR THE DAY.
I THINK SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB, REALLY APPRECIATE STEPPING IN AND TAKING SOME OF THIS WORK OFF OF MY PLATE.
UH, WHEREAS THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO ENCOURAGING CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND DEVELOPING FUTURE LEADERS THROUGH EDUCATIONAL COMMUNITY BASED OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WHEREAS MAYOR SHANE SA PROUDLY SUPPORTS PROGRAMS THAT INSPIRE YOUNG RESIDENTS TO LEARN ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC SERVICE, AND WHERE SUMMER NEED HAS DEMONSTRATED ENTHUSIASM, LEADERSHIP, AND A STRONG INTEREST IN HER COMMUNITY AND ITS FUTURE.
AND WHEREAS THE MAYOR FOR THE DAY PROGRAM PROVIDES YOUNG PEOPLE WITH A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPERIENCE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FIRSTHAND AND GAINING APPRECIATION FOR THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF PUBLIC OFFICE AND WHERE SUMMER NEED HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE MAYOR FOR THE DAY, FOR JUNE 18TH, 2026, IN RECOGNITION OF HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS, CHARACTER AND COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
AND WHEREAS HER PARTICIPATION REFLECTS PROMISES OF THE NEXT GENERATION OF CIVIC LEADERS AND SERVES AS AN EXAMPLE TO OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, THEREFORE, I MAYOR SHANE SA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LA VISTA, TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 18TH, 2026, A SUMMER NEED MAYOR FOR THE DAY IN THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA.
AND SO WE DID A ESSAY CONTEST FOR EIGHTH GRADERS THIS YEAR, AND, UH, I'VE REVIEWED, UH, 80 OR 90 ESSAYS.
UM, I GOT TO GO TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND TALK TO THE STUDENTS.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WHEN I WENT TO TALK TO 'EM.
I KNEW THE ESSAYS WERE GONNA BE GOOD, AND THEN I GOT TO READ SUMMERS AND, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD ONES.
UH, SUMMERS I REALLY LIKED BECAUSE, UM, IT HIT ON A TOPIC THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MOST PEOPLE IN LAGO VISTA RIGHT NOW.
IT WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS, AND YOU ACTUALLY HAD A FULL FLEDGED PLAN.
SO IF YOU WANNA GIVE ANY MORE BACKGROUND ON YOUR ESSAY, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, SO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TOPICS I TALKED ABOUT WAS THE WATER CONSERVATION, BECAUSE WE GET ALMOST ALL OF OUR WATER, LIKE OUR, AT LEAST OUR DRINKING WATER, THE WATER THAT WE SHOWER WITH, TAP FROM THE LAKE.
AND WHILE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER NOW, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT OF IT IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO WE SHOULD BE DOING WHAT WE CAN NOW TO PREVENT POTENTIAL DISASTER LATER.
SO I THOUGHT OF PART OF MY FIVE STEP PLAN WAS TO DO COLLECTING RAINWATER AND ALSO, UH, WORK ON PROPER IRRIGATION SYSTEMS WHILE LIKE, BECAUSE HITS THE MAJORITY OF HOUSEHOLD WATER GOES TO IRRIGATION, AND SO MUCH OF THAT IS JUST WASTED, LIKE RUNNING OFF INTO PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS.
AND IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH MORE PRECISE MEASUREMENTS, UM, WE COULD SAVE SO MUCH MORE WATER AND PREVENT THESE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT SOME TOPICS THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED UP HERE, MR. BENFIELD SUMMER, ONE THING YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IS WE'RE ACTUALLY BEEN DISCUSSING ABOUT LOWERING THE AGE OF ELECTED OFFICE TO 18 IN THE CITY OF LAG VISTA.
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK WE CAN QUITE GO TO YOUR AGE, BUT YOU CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE MY VOTE.
BUT, UH, I, WITH MAYOR SOM AGREE THAT YOUR ESSAY WAS FANTASTIC, AND, UH, HONESTLY, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A BETTER JOB THAN ANY ONE OF US COULD HAVE COULD BE DOING TODAY.
AND SO I ALSO TOOK, UM, IT'S IN OUR PACKET FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT.
I TOOK ALL THE ESSAYS, PUT IN A CHAT, GBT DID A REPORT ON WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAIN TOPICS THAT OUR EIGHTH GRADERS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, YOU MAY NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE THE E-BIKES CAME UP, UH, ON THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE TOPICS.
UM, BUT THERE WAS A LOT TOO ABOUT KEEPING THE BEAUTIFUL LAGO VISTA THAT WE KNOW THEY WANTED GREEN SPACES.
UH, SOME OF IT WAS JUST ABOUT SAFETY ON THE STREETS, VERY COMMON SENSE POLICY, UH, THAT WE HEAR ADULTS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME.
AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IT WASN'T JUST AN ESSAY THAT THEY WROTE AND I READ.
I WANTED THEM TO SHOW THAT WHAT YOU JUST DID IS ADVOCACY.
AND SO NOW THOSE LETTERS THAT THEY WROTE ARE IN THIS REPORT THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN TO COUNSEL.
YOU HAVE NOW BEEN, UH, A PART OF THE PROCESS AND THEY'VE BEEN A PART OF IT.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE OF LAGO VISTA WITH OUR YOUTH.
AND AS YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE, UH, THEY'RE NOT SHY, THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK UP.
UM, AND THEY'RE VERY KEEN ON THE TOPICS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
SO, UM, I'LL NOW TAKE OVER THE BORING PART OF THIS MEETING,
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THANKS MAYOR.AND THIS IS HER MOM HERE IN THE FRONT ROW.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING A TROOPER.
WE TOURED AROUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TODAY AND A COUPLE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
OH, WE GOTTA DO A QUICK PHOTO.
GET YOUR, UH, SINCE THERE WERE SOME MICROPHONE ISSUES, WE'RE JUST RECOVERING THAT THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, THERE WERE COMMENTS ON, UH, THE YOUTH BASEBALL LEAGUE AND THE LEASE WITH THE LOWER FIELD, AND THEN THERE'S FLAT CAMERAS AND, AND WE AGREED TO PUT THOSE ON THE JULY 2ND, UH, AGENDA.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO, I DID GET A REQUEST HERE TO JUMP AHEAD TO
[X.3. Discussion regarding the Bunker Bar & Grill lease agreement.]
ITEM TEN THREE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE BUNKER BAR AND GRILL.CHARLES? YEAH, I BELIEVE DUSTIN, I SAW DUSTIN HERE.
UM, THIS IS A, IT, THE LEASE IS NOT UP UNTIL DECEMBER.
UM, BUT WE WANTED TO GET A START ON THIS NOW AND, UH, I THINK MR. MARTIN'S ASKING FOR A FIVE YEAR LEASE.
YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.
WE'RE, UH, TRYING TO DO A LONGER LEASE, UM, FIVE YEARS.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUT THERE IS, UH, ADD A NICE SPACE TO THE BACK PATIO AREA.
I GOT SOME RENDITIONS HERE THAT I PRINTED OFF.
IF Y'ALL WANNA LOOK AT 'EM, SOMETHING I'M HOPING WE CAN GET GOING OUT THERE.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE GOLF COURSE, IF WE FILL UP A TOURNAMENT, I THINK THAT'LL BE ABOUT 140 PLAYERS.
THE BUNKER CAN PROBABLY HOUSE ABOUT 70 TO 80.
SO THE GOLF COURSE NEEDS MORE SPACE.
UM, I THINK THE BEST, OR THE ONLY PLACE RIGHT NOW IS THAT OUTSIDE AREA.
WE CAN PUT A LITTLE COVERED AREA OUT THERE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME EVENTS, HAVE SOME LIVE MUSIC, RIGHT,
WE CAN GET SOME MISTERS OUT THERE TO COOL PEOPLE OFF WITH SOME FANS, SOME TVS, AND JUST KIND OF HAVE A NICE LITTLE HANGOUT OUT THERE.
AND I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD SPOT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND DO EVENTS.
I KNOW, UM, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A TON OF PLACES TO DO EVENTS THAT ARE JUST OWNED BY THE CITY.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING ALL THE, UM, THE MOVIES OUT THERE, THE MOVIES ON THE GREEN.
AND THAT WOULD JUST BE ANOTHER PLACE WHERE MS. SANDOVAL CAN MAYBE DO SOME EVENTS AND WE'D LOVE TO BE A PARTNER IN THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE PAYMENT FOR THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LEAD IN IT.
IF Y'ALL WOULD WANT ME TO HELP PAY FOR THIS AND GET THIS THING GOING, I CAN DO IT.
MAYBE JUST SOME RELIEF ON THE, UM, ON THE RENT.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO GO DO, BECAUSE IT IS Y'ALL'S SPACE, SOMETHING, I KIND OF WANT TO START PUSHING FORWARD AND TRY TO MAKE THAT SPACE VERY NICE SOON.
SO IF Y'ALL JUST TALK ABOUT IT, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL KEEP WORKING WITH MR. WEST HERE AND WE CAN MAYBE GET THIS THING GOING.
ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS FOR DUSTIN? AMEN.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COMMENT.
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL
I NORMALLY SEE THREE IN FIVE YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS, UM, FOR ONGOING.
AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE CITY IS GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THIS, BUT I I WOULD LOVE TO POST THIS.
UH, YEAH, IT'S MEAN ON THE COMMUNITY BOARD, JUST CAN GET SOME FEEDBACK.
IT'S KIND OF THE IDEA THAT I HAD FOR IT.
UM, THE GOLF PRO, GREG HAS ALREADY GOTTEN ESTIMATES FOR THIS SPACE, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE CAN BE DONE FOR PROBABLY UNDER $70,000.
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SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, I'D LIKE TO HELP WHERE I CAN.UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'LL TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET FUNDING, THEN MAYBE WE COULD WORK OUT WITH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE I'M PAYING FOR THIS PROJECT AND MAYBE IN RETURN FOR SOME, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS OF RENT OR SOMETHING.
SO, I DUNNO, IT'S JUST I'M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY AWESOME SPACE FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, CHARLES, I WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF, AND IN THIS CASE I THINK IT KIND OF BOTH IMPACTS THE GOLF COURSE STAFF AS WELL AS PARKS AND, UH, PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, RIGHT.
UM, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM TALK THROUGH THIS, WHAT MAKES SENSE AND WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND, AND DOES THE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, IF, IF GREG'S ALREADY GOTTEN A A, AN ESTIMATE ON THE COST, YOU KNOW, IF THAT, THAT IN FACT THAT DESIGN MAKE SENSE, BUT I I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTUALLY THIS, THIS HAPPENING, UH, IF, IF STAFF THINKS IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, A GOOD IDEA AS WELL AND IT FITS, IT FITS TO THE SPACE.
I DO THINK IF WE COULD, UM, OPEN THAT OUTDOOR SPACE UP TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DINERS AND STUFF, I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE DUSTIN AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE BUSINESS AND WE WOULD GET A LITTLE MORE USE OUT OF THE GOLF COURSE IN THE EVENINGS THAN WHAT'S BEING USED OUT THERE NOW.
AND MY, MY ONE QUESTION IS, THESE AREN'T TIED TOGETHER, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU'RE NOT SAYING IF WE DON'T DO THIS, YOU DON'T WANNA GO FORWARD WITH THE LEASE? NO.
SO WE TAKE CARE OF THE LEASE AND THIS WILL BE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE TALK ABOUT.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER PROJECT.
ME AND, UH, MR. WEST HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT A FEW IN A FEW MEETINGS.
UM, I KNOW THAT'S MAYBE NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE CAME TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
I KNOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RENEWING THE LEASE, BUT POTENTIALLY RENEWING THE LEASE CAN BECOME A PARTNERSHIP OF GETTING THAT DONE ALSO.
YEAH, I STILL WANT TO DO THE FIVE YEAR LEASE, UM, BUT HOWEVER THAT, HOWEVER WE NEED TO WORD IT TO MAYBE GET THAT DONE, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE FOR ME TO STAY, BUT I THINK, UH, EVERYONE WANTS IT TO BE DONE.
YEAH, MAN, I'M GOOD WITH, UM, TRIALS WORKING ON THE LEASE AND MR. PRINCE, YY AND JUST ONE MORE COMMENT, UH, FOR, FOR ME, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE A, A THREE YEAR LEASE WITH AN OPTION FOR TWO YEARS AFTER THAT AND, AND, AND POTENTIALLY SOMETHING LIKE THIS SPACE BEING DONE MIGHT AFFECT WHAT THE, THE LEASE TERMS ARE IN THE YEARS FOUR AND FIVE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN IT'S, DOES THE AMOUNT OF RENT NEED TO GO UP? BECAUSE THE GOLF COURSE NOW IS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE'VE PUT IN OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM MM-HMM
OR WE BY THEN, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY GREG WILL HAVE ALMOST DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF ROUNDS OUT THERE AND YOUR BUSINESS IS GOING UP, RIGHT? WE HOPE MM-HMM
SO, UH, I I, I'M NOT SURE FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO LOCK INTO TERMS FOR FIVE YEARS.
MAYBE WE CAN LOCK FOR THREE AND HAVE TWO YEARS OUT THAT HAVE SOME, SOME NEGOTIATION, WIGGLE, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFICS OF WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC.
AND, UH, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS CONCEPT, IF IT, IF IT, UH, PHASES OUT, WELL, IF IT IS A CONCEPT THAT I'M INVESTING IN, I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE LONGER, UH, LONGER TERM.
BUT, UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S PAYING FOR, THEN I'M FINE.
AND I'LL JUST, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, MY PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH LOCKING IN FOR THREE YEARS MM-HMM
AND IF, YOU KNOW, WHEN STAFF COMES BACK IN, 'CAUSE THIS IS WORK SESSIONS, THIS IS NOT DECISION TIME, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK IN FOR A DECISION TIME, IF STAFF CAN COME IN WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF HERE'S WHAT YEARS FOUR AND FIVE, UH, MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF WE DID THIS PROJECT, OR HERE'S WHAT YEARS FOUR AND FIVE MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS PROJECT MM-HMM
UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE, MAYBE NARROW IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY CONCRETE.
UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT I HEAR YOU ASKING DUSTIN IS, UM, I'D LOVE TO DO THIS AND GET SOME RELIEF ON, YOU KNOW, ON MY, UH, RENTAL PAYMENTS, SOMETHING, SOME CONSIDERATION.
SO YEAH, IF I, IF I PUT THE MONEY UP FRONT, I PAID FOR IT, I BUILT IT, AND THEN YOU NO, I GOTCHA.
IF Y'ALL WANTED TO GET, IT'D BE ALL SPACE EVENTUALLY, BUT I WOULD JUST WOULDN'T PAY RENT FOR A COUPLE YEARS OR SO.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY THOUGH IS AT THIS POINT, THAT WHOLE CONCEPT IS, UH, WELL, IT MIGHT BE THIS, IT MIGHT BE THAT MM-HMM
IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, DUSTIN PAYS FOR IT AND IT MIGHT BE THE CITY PAYS FOR IT.
I THINK, UH, FOR US TO LOCK INTO A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AND SAY, BUT THERE'S THIS HUGE, MAYBE WE DO SOMETHING THAT WE'D NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE, RIGHT? IN THAT FIVE, FIVE-YEAR TIMEFRAME IS WE, WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
IT IS JUST OPTIONS TO GET IT PAID FOR AND TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY.
UM, SO HOWEVER THAT LOOKS, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE CONTRACT AND GO FOR IT FROM THERE.
TOM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, THANK YOU BY THE WAY, UH, FOR GIVING US SOME OPTIONS OF COURSE.
AND, UH, HELPING YOURSELF AND HELPING US AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, I TOO WAS LOOKING, UH, NOT SEEING THIS WAS LOOKING AT A A FIVE YEAR, I
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WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO THAT.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE WITH ONE OF OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IS ON THE LAST LITTLE BIT OF TIME IS A OPTION WITH AN ESCALATOR CALL CLAUSE IN IT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE A 3% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DEPENDING ON ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AT THE TIME.
SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT THAT WAS ONE IDEA, UH, THAT I HAD OUT THERE.
UM, I, AND I, UH, WAS TRYING TO PULL UP, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT RENT OR WHATEVER, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE OPTION TO, UM, UPFIT, UH, A CURRENT SPACE THAT OF COURSE IS USABLE, BUT THIS IS GORGEOUS.
IF YOU, IF THIS CAN BE CREATED, UH, IT GIVES US A, UM, SOMETHING NOW FOR A LONGER TERM LOAN, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS JUST BASED ON, UH, THE RENT, UH, WORKOUT, WHATEVER STAFF CAN WORK OUT ON THAT.
SO, UM, I JUST, I'M, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF THE ABOVE IN TERMS OF, UH, MAKING SOMETHING THAT COULD WORK FEASIBLY FOR THE CITY AND FOR YOU, SIR.
DUSTIN, I HAD THE LUNCH AT YOUR PLACE THE OTHER DAY AND IT WAS FANTASTIC.
I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS TOP TIER, HAD A GREAT ROUND OF GOLF AND ATE THERE AFTERWARDS, AND IT WAS JUST AMAZING.
UM, I, I TOTALLY GET THE FIVE YEAR LEASE REQUEST WITH THIS ADDITION.
I'M PROBABLY, PROBABLY FALL MORE INTO THE SAME CONCERNS THAT MR. PRINCE JUST SHARED OF A TWO OR THREE YEAR LEASE WITHOUT THIS ADDITION.
YOU KNOW, MEANING I DON'T SEE A REASON TO GO SUCH A LONG TERM IF THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN INVESTMENT, BUT IF THERE IS AN INVESTMENT THAT MAKES SENSE THAT YOU WOULD WANNA RECOUP OH YEAH.
SO I, SO ALL OF THAT TO SAY IS, IS THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT THE AGE OF THE BUILDING AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE BUILDING, AND, UM, I WON'T GO INTO A, THE DETAILS OF THAT DISCUSSION MM-HMM
BUT I WOULD, I'LL JUST SAY I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT DOING A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION LIKE THIS AND TELL SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OF THAT BUILDING ARE ANSWERED.
MEANING DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO ADD IT SUCH A BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR PAVILION IF IT EXCEEDS THE LIFE OF THE CURRENT BUILDING? SURE.
AND THEN THE, UH, LAST CONCERN I'LL JUST MAKE IS, UH, MORE DRIVEN TOWARDS STAFF IS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN IF YOU PAY FOR IT AND WE DO SOME KIND OF LEASE AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING, THE BUILD WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET CITY SPECIFICATIONS MM-HMM
AND SO I WOULD JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WAS AN OVERSIGHT FROM THE CITY TO MAKE SURE ANY ADDITIONS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY WAS DONE TO OUR STANDARD SO THAT, UH, THERE WEREN'T COMPLIANCE ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD.
WE'D DEFINITELY, IF, IF I DID TAKE A LEAD ON IT, WE'D USE RECOMMENDED VENDORS OR, UM, JUST LICENSE VENDORS AND OBVIOUSLY GO THROUGH SOME TYPE OF COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE.
NOW ONLY LAST COMMENT I HAVE IS, UH, YOU'RE NOT UNDER OATH, BUT CLOSE TO IT.
I HEARD THAT THERE'S A VIDEO OF YOU HITTING A HOME RUN OFF SHOW HIGH TANI.
IS THAT TRUE? THAT'S A TRUE STORY.
WHY HAVEN'T I SEEN THIS VIDEO YET? I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU.
IN MY PAST LIFE, I PLAYED PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL FOR 13 YEARS, AND THE LAST SPRING TRAINING I WAS IN SHHE WAS COMING OVER IN THE STATES AND I FACED HIM AND HE THREW ME A FASTBALL INSIDE AND I TOOK IT FOR A RIDE.
SO
SO I KIND OF, I'M KIND OF RELEVANT TO THE YOUNG KIDS STILL
[VIII.1. Conduct a public hearing, receive public comment, discuss, consider, and take possible action regarding voluntary annexation; Ordinance Number 26-06-18-01; An Ordinance Of The City Council Of The City Of Lago Vista, Texas, Annexing Approximately 4.949 Acres Of Land Located At 7301 Lohman Ford Road, Legally Described As Lot 27, Travis Hollow, Section Two, As Recorded In Volume 78, Page 398 Of The Plat Records Of Travis County, Texas, Into The Corporate Limits Of The City Of Lago Vista, Texas; Approving The Municipal Service Plan; Extending The Boundary Limits Of The City; Providing Findings Of Fact; Providing For Incorporation Into The Official City Boundary Map; Providing A Severability Clause; Providing A Repealer Clause; Providing For Publication; And Establishing An Effective Date.]
WE'LL GO BACK TO, UH, EIGHT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND POSSIBLE ACTION.UH, WE'LL DO ITEM ONE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH OH SIX 18 DASH OH ONE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA, TEXAS ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 4.949 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 7 3 0 1 LOMAN FORD ROAD, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT 27 TRAVIS HOLLOW, SECTION TWO AS RECORDED IN VOLUME 78, PAGE 3 98 OF THE PLAT RECORDS OF TRAVIS COUNTY, TEXAS, AND THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA, TEXAS APPROVING THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE PLAN, EXTENDING THE BOUNDARY LIMITS OF THE CITY, PROVIDING FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDING FOR INCORPORATION OF THE OFFICIAL CITY BOUNDARY MAP, PROVIDING A VARIABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A REPEAL OR CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR A PUBLICATION AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
UH, AT THIS POINT IT IS 4 51 AND I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL TAKE A STAFF PRESENTATION.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR A COUPLE MONTHS NOW.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE STEPS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
THIS IS THAT LAST STEP, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE STILL TO THE STATE, HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE ANNEXATION.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, UM, AT THIS POINT PENDING THE OUTCOME, UM, COUNSEL CAN MAKE OR TAKE ACTION ON THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE FOR ANNEXATION.
UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYTHING HAS COME UP.
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COUNSEL, ANY STAFF, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, MAYOR PROAM IN LISTENING TO P AND C, WE DID HAVE ONE NEIGHBOR, I BELIEVE COME FROM THE ZONING.AND, UH, WAS THERE ANYTHING IN, UH, REGARD TO WHAT HE STATED AT THAT TIME THAT WOULD HAVE ANY BEARING IN TERMS OF DOING THIS ANNEXATION? NO, MA'AM.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MR. PRINCE? UH, JUST A COMMENT FOR, UH, COUNSEL AND, AND THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, PROCESS WISE, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ITEMS, UH, 8.1 AND 8.2 ON OUR AGENDA HERE, 8.2, NOT HAVING BEEN READ IN YET, BUT, UH, WE LEGALLY ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THIS ANNEXATION, UH, BEFORE WE CONSIDER REZONING.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO, TWO SEPARATE, BUT, BUT, UH, RELATED TOPICS ON THE SAME, UH, PROPERTY HERE BACK TO BACK I, I WOULD ASSUME.
UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU'RE, ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION OR YOU NO, I STILL GOTTA DO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, THEN I'LL GO.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
IF I DON'T HAVE THE APPLICANT, THEN I'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ANNEXATION ITEM? OKAY.
GO ON ONCE HEARING NONE, THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 4 53.
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? MR. BENFIELD? UH, MR. BULLOCK, UM, IS THERE ANY REASON THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION OR THAT YOU KNOW OF, OF WHY COUNSEL SHOULD NOT TAKE THIS ACTION? NO KNOW, THERE ARE NO LEGAL PROHIBITIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I MEAN, I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, THE PROPERTY'S ELIGIBLE FOR ANNEXATION 'CAUSE IT MEETS THE CONTINUITY AND YOUR, UH, UH, ACREAGE PERCENTAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO, SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PROHIBITION ON IT.
UM, I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE PROCESS OF ANNEXATION AND CONSIDERATION OF ZONING AND CONCURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, TAKING ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS AT THE SAME MEETING.
UM, AND SO IF, IF, IF THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF YOUR QUESTION, I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
I, THAT'S EXACTLY THE GIST OF MY QUESTION.
UM, SO I'VE, I'VE REVIEWED THIS AND JORDAN HAS REVIEWED IT AS WELL IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR ORDINANCES AND, UH, AND ALSO BASED ON EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, WITH HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS IN OTHER CITIES, UM, YOUR ORDINANCES TALK ABOUT THE CONSIDERATION OF ZONING AND, AND, AND APPROVAL OF ZONING, UH, FOLLOWING ANNEXATION.
AND, AND TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY, UM, FROM A, AND, AND, AND PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
OF COURSE, CITIES ONLY HAVE THE POWER TO ZONE PROPERTY WITHIN THEIR CITY LIMITS.
SO, AND IF YOU'RE GONNA, I I IMPOSE ZONING ON SOMETHING, IT HAS TO BE WITHIN YOUR CITY LIMITS.
THEREFORE, UM, THE, THE ACTION YOU TAKE, THE ZONING, IF, IF THIS PASSES ANNEXATION, IF THE ANNEXATION PASSES, THEN THE SUBSEQUENT ACT, UH, UH, ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU COULD THEN TAKE ACTION ON IT.
IF ANNEXATION DIDN'T PASS, UM, THEN THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE MOOT.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, CAN THOSE ITEMS BE CONSIDERED AT THE SAME MEETING? AND THE REASON THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THE SAME MEETING IS BECAUSE WHEN THIS MATTER WENT THROUGH P AND Z FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF A ZONING CATEGORY, THAT IS NOT THE ACT OF ZONING.
IF YOU ANNEX TONIGHT, THE ACTION YOU TAKE WILL BE THE ACT OF ZONING.
AND THE ACT OF ZONING, WHICH IS, HAS TO OCCUR BY THE LEGISLATIVE BODY, UM, WOULD OCCUR AFTER THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED.
NOW, THE WAY THAT THAT GETS PAPERED UP IS THAT IT, IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE.
THE ZONING BECOMES AFTER THE EFFECTIVE, AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ANNEXATION.
AND SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE FROM A PAPERING STANDPOINT, THAT, THAT THAT IS DRAFTED PROPERLY.
AND I BELIEVE IT IS WHETHER OR NOT A P AND Z CAN CONSIDER THIS IS, IT IS PERMISSIBLE, IT IS NOT FORBIDDEN BY YOUR, YOUR ORDINANCES.
AND IN CITIES DO THIS TYPE OF A PROCESS ROUTINELY.
BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T DO THIS TYPE OF A PROCESS, THEN IT LENGTHENS OUT THE PROCESS OF BRINGING SOMETHING INTO THE CITY.
MOREOVER, THIS PARTICULAR DOC, UH, UH, PARCEL, THIS IS THE ONE WITH THE PRE-EXISTING BUSINESS ON IT.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A, UM, AS OPPOSED TO WHEN A CITY ANNEXES, YOU KNOW, GREEN SPACE,
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UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY, UM, YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE, LIKE MANY CITIES, YOU, YOU, YOU ASSIGN A TEMPORARY ZONING DESIGNATION TO THAT PROPERTY.HOWEVER, IT DOES COME WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RISK, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UM, YOU CAN'T HAVE THESE PARCELS SITTING UNDER THIS TEMPORARY ZONING FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.
I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN, IT, IT IN, IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES WITH OTHER CITIES, IT'S LED TO LITIGATION.
THERE IS SOME QUESTION, LEGAL QUESTION ABOUT, ABOUT THAT, UH, THAT PROCESS AND, AND ITS EFFECTIVENESS.
AND, AND, BUT IN ANY EVENT, IN THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, BECAUSE IT HAS AN EXISTING BUSINESS ON IT, IT IS PROTECTED BY STATE LAW.
SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU ZONE IT, IF YOU ANN IT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU ZONE IT, AS LONG AS IT CONTINUES IN THAT, UM, THAT SAME USE, IT, IT IS A GRANDFATHERED.
EVEN IF YOU ZONE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR WHATEVER, DOESN'T MATTER, UH, IT WOULD STILL BE A GRANDFATHERED NON-CONFORMING USE.
AND SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, UM, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THESE TOGETHER TO ASSIGN THE PROPER, UM, ZONING TO IT.
SO IT IS NOT A NON-CONFORMING USE THE DAY THAT IT COMES INTO THE CITY.
UM, AND, AND, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, IT, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
BUT, BUT CITIES DO IT THAT WAY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THE ACTIONS THAT TAKE PLACE AT A P AND Z ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND WOULD BE LEGAL NULLIES IF YOU DECIDED NOT TO ANNEX.
RIGHT? THERE'S NO ACTION, THERE'S NO FORMAL TECHNICAL LEGAL ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN.
THOSE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, SO I, I, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I SPOKE WITH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL PARTNERS ABOUT THIS AND, AND IT IS A COMMON PRACTICE THROUGHOUT TEXAS THAT CITIES DO IT THIS WAY, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THEN IT LENGTHENS OUT THE PROCESS.
AND SO, AND, AND, AND THE ISSUE THERE WAS ALSO AN ISSUE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, OF WHETHER OR NOT IT, UH, NOT THIS ONE, BUT ANOTHER ISSUE.
IF SOMETHING COMPLIES WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OF COURSE, IF YOU ZONE THE, THEN ZONING, THE ZONING THAT YOU GIVE, IT MUST COMPLY WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEN THE PRACTICE IS TO AMEND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ANNEXED IN, WELL, YOU GOTTA ANNEX IT, AND THEN YOU GOTTA AMEND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEN YOU CAN ASSIGN ZONING TO IT THAT IS IN CONFORMITY WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF YOU DO THOSE ONE AT A TIME, THEN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS YOU'VE LENGTHENED OUT THE PROCESS FOR THIS PARCEL TO ACHIEVE FINAL ZONING SO THAT IT CAN BE USED AND DEVELOPED AS THE OWNER MIGHT WANT.
UM, WELL, IF IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE PUBLIC NOTICES AND ALL OF THOSE STEPS, AND THEY OCCUR SEQUENTIALLY, THAT CAN BE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN YOUR ORDINANCES AND THERE'S NOTHING, CERTAINLY NOTHING IN STATE LAW THAT PROHIBITS ALL OF THOSE STEPS THAT GET YOU TO THAT POINT FROM THOSE OCCURRING SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD TO, YOU ANNEX AND THEN YOU AMEND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEN YOU ASSIGN A PERMANENT ZONING TO IT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM TAKING ALL OF THOSE ACTIONS AT THE SAME MEETING SO LONG AS THEY OCCUR IN THAT ORDER.
RIGHT? UM, SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE GOT NO LEGAL CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
THAT WAS THE ADVICE THAT I'VE GIVEN.
UH, I THINK JORDAN HAS SEEN THAT OCCUR IN, IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL.
I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A COMMON PRACTICE, SO WE HAVE NO ISSUES OR CONCERNS WITH IT.
I'M OPEN TO A MOTION MAYOR, MR. BENFIELD.
I MOVE THAT, UH, COUNSEL, APPROVE 8.1, ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH OH SIX 18 DASH ZERO ONE APPROVING ANNEXATION.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BENFIELD.
I HAVE A SECOND FOR MR. PRINCE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
IS IT PRE UNANIMOUSLY? WE WILL MOVE ON TO
[VIII.2. Conduct a public hearing, receive public comment, discuss, consider, and take possible action for the rezoning of approximately 4.94 Acres located at 7301 Lohman Ford Rd. from TR-1 to C2; Ordinance Number 26-06-18-03, An Ordinance Of The City Council Of The City Of Lago Vista, Texas, Amending The Official Zoning Map Of The City Of Lago Vista By Rezoning Approximately 4.949 Acres Of Land Located At 7301 Lohman Ford Road, Legally Described As Approximately 4.94 Acres Of Lot 27, Travis Hollow, Section Two, As Recorded In Volume 78, Page 398, From Etj (Extraterritorial Jurisdiction) To C 2 (General Commercial/Retail); Providing Findings Of Fact; Providing For Incorporation Into The Official Zoning Map; Providing A Severability Clause; Providing A Repealer Clause; Providing For Publication; And Establishing An Effective Date.]
ITEM EIGHT TWO, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 4.94 ACRES, LOCATED AT 73 0 1 LOMAN FORD ROAD FROM TR ONE TO C TWO.ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH OH SIX DASH EIGHT DASH OH THREE.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA, TEXAS, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA BY REZONING APPROXIMATELY 4.949 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT 7 3 0 1 LOMAN FORD ROAD, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS APPROXIMATELY 4.94 ACRES OF LOT 27 TRAVIS HOLLOW, SECTION TWO AS RECORDED IN VOLUME 78, PAGE 3 98 FROM ETJ TO C TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL, PROVIDING FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDING FOR INCORPORATION INTO THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP, PROVIDING A VARIABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING REPEAL OR CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION, AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, 26 DASH 29 64 DASH R DASH REC.
AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5 0 1
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AND STAFF PRESENTATION JORDAN, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND I APOLOGIZE, I WANTED TO KEEP THESE SEPARATE FOR THIS VERY REASON.UM, SO THIS ZONING APPLICATION DID GO THROUGH THE STANDARD PROCESS.
IT WAS NOTIFIED, IT DID GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF IT.
WE HAD ONE PUBLIC COMMENT OUT OF THE 13 THAT WERE NOTICED.
UM, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WAS MORE IN REGARDS TO SOME, UM, SITE ISSUES THAT WERE HAPPENING AND NOT NECESSARILY TOWARDS THE ZONING.
AND SO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND I WENT OUT ON SITE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
UH, WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO, TO GET IT SITUATED IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
UM, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY FEEDBACK REGARDING THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY.
AND SO, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS USE, THERE'S C TWO A BUDDING IT ALREADY.
IT'S IN LINE WITH OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN, OUR CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, IT'S THE USE CATEGORY THAT FITS FOR THE USE THAT'S THERE TODAY THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE.
UM, AND SO I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MAYOR, I'M JUST GONNA ADD ONE.
IT TOOK YOU JUST FOLLOW UP ON MR. BENEFIELD'S EARLIER QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM.
I THINK THERE WAS ALSO SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE TITLING OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AS A REZONING.
AND THE REASON IT IS A REZONING IS THAT AS OF THREE OR FOUR MINUTES AGO WHEN THIS WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, IT, IT WAS AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN THE, UH, TEMPORARY REZONING CATEGORY.
SO IT IS OFFICIALLY ZONED THAT TEMPORARY CATEGORY.
NOW YOU ARE REZONING IT TO ITS FORMAL FINAL, WELL, NOT FINAL, BUT FORMAL, UH, ZONING THAT COMPORTS WITH THE USE THAT'S ACTUALLY THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND MAYOR, IF I MAY, UM, IN THE MOTION, IF WE CAN REQUEST THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS TOMORROW TO COVER ALL, ALL BASES.
UH, SO ON THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT'S SIGNED, UM, IT'LL BE DATED FOR TOMORROW.
I, THE, UH, APPLICANT'S NOT HERE.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? THAT WOULD BE ME, BUT, UH, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN BEFORE.
I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS MY STANCE ON THIS.
I'LL GET A YEAH, MIGHT AS WELL COME TO THE MIC.
AND NOT EVERYBODY WAS AT PLANNING AND ZONING THE OTHER NIGHT, SO IF YOU WANNA, MY NAME IS JOHNNY, JOHNNY BUTLER, AND I'VE OWNED THE LAND NEXT TO THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, UH, THERE'S THREE OWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROPERTY SINCE I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY.
AND EACH ONE OF THEM HAS, UH, BUILT THESE STORAGE BUILDINGS WITHOUT ANY KIND OF A PERMIT.
AND, UH, THE ONLY PERMIT THAT I'VE SEEN IS SOMETHING FROM THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE LAW OR THE RULES OF THE, THE CITY THAT YOU HAD TO GET A PERMIT BEFORE YOU DID ANYTHING.
AND UNDOUBTEDLY, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
SO I'VE DEALT WITH THIS GUY FOR A PRETTY GOOD WHILE, THE NEW OWNER, AND, UH, THEY HAVE THESE STORAGE BUILDINGS FROM WHAT HE SAYS FROM HOUSTON TO AMARILLO, GOT A LOT OF THEM.
AND, AND HIS COMMENT TO ME WAS, IF, IF IT WASN'T FOR ME, THIS PROJECT WOULD ALREADY BE FINISHED, MEANING THEY WERE GONNA DO IT REGARDLESS.
SO THE, MY BIG ISSUE IS THAT HE'S DRAINING THE WATER OFF OF MY, OFF OF HIS PROPERTY ACROSS MINE.
AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY TO THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT HE DON'T WANT TO DO IT, MEANING TO RUN HIS WATER TO LOMAN FORD ROAD DITCH ON HIS SIDE, AND THEN DOWN LOMAN FORD DITCH TO THE BIG PIPE THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE ROAD TO THE LAKE SIX FOOT PIPE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GETTING THIS, THIS GUY HAVING A BUSINESS THERE, BUT MY, UM, HE WON'T DO, HE WON'T FOLLOW ANY RULES.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING THE, THE, UH, THE BOARD RIGHT NOW.
YOU GONNA, IF THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN MAKE HIM FOLLOW THE RULES AND GET A PERMIT, MAKE SURE HE DON'T PUT THE WATER ON MY PROPERTY.
THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE LOT THAT, THAT HE'S DRAINING THE WATER ON.
HE'S ALREADY WENT ACROSS MY, UH, DRIVEWAY, COMPLETELY WASHED IT OUT.
AND, UH, HE TOOK A, I DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT, BUT HE, HE PAVED THE PROBABLY 12 FOOT OF IT WHERE THE WATER ACTUALLY RAN ACROSS ALL OF THE ASPHALT IS STILL IN A PILE.
HE'S RAKED IT OFF ONTO MY SIDE.
AND ALL THE TRASH THAT'S ON THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK ON MY PROPERTY.
HE WON'T FOLLOW ANY RULES AND,
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UM, I DON'T THINK HE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO IT, BUT THAT'S MY GRIP.SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET HIM JUST TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND KEEP THE WATER OFF MY PROPERTY, THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY VALUED OVER $800, 800,000.
SO, UH, ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT IT TO THINK ABOUT IT A LOT, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A GUY THAT WON'T, WON'T ADHERE TO THE RULES.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS, MAYOR, MR. PRINCE? UM, JUST RESPONDING TO MR. BUTLER.
SO, UM, UM, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE THINGS THERE.
FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT PART OF THE CITY.
SO WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GAVE THEM WHATEVER THEY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER INSPECTION PERMIT THEY DID, THAT WAS THROUGH THE COUNTY, NOT THE CITY.
UM, BEFORE THE ANNEXATION THAT HAPPENED A FEW MINUTES AGO, THIS STORAGE SHED PROPERTY WAS NOT IN THE CITY.
AND SO IN FACT, THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO TELL HIM HE HAD TO FOLLOW OUR CITY RULES.
UH, NOW THAT HE'S ANNEXED THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS SOME AUTHORITY.
UM, AND, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IIII WOULD DEFER TO STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY TO, YOU KNOW, UH, DEAL WITH DETAILED QUESTIONS OF WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE.
BUT I THINK, UH, THE, THE BOTTOM LINE FOR YOUR INFORMATION IS THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY HAD NO AUTHORITY TO DO ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT BEFORE TODAY.
UH, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, HOPEFULLY WHERE WE'RE, AND I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THINGS WILL BE BETTER FOR YOU, UH, GOING FORWARD THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST WITH THIS, THIS NEIGHBOR.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING CHARLES.
IT'LL BE A COMPETITOR OF MINE THEN WE HAVE STORAGE TOO, IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, GOOD BUSINESS LOG VISTA NEEDS IT.
AND, UH, NO USE IN HIM HAVING THAT PROPERTY IF HE DOESN'T FINISH THE JOB.
BUT, UH, JUST KEEP AN EYE ON HIM.
OKAY? YEAH, I CAN ASSURE YOU NOW THAT IT, NOW THAT THE PROPERTY'S BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, STAFF WILL BE ON TOP OF IT TO MAKE SURE HE IS COMPLIANT WITH ALL VERY GOOD CURRENT REGULATIONS.
UH, MAYOR TIM, I JUST WANT JORDAN, JUST REAL QUICKLY, UM, HE'S, UH, RAISED A COUPLE OF CER CONCERNS.
I THINK ONE OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, IS, IS A MORE OR LESS A NUISANCE OUT OF OUR NUISANCE ORDINANCE.
UH, BUT THE OTHER IS THE WATER ISSUE.
I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT IT IS NOTED SOMEHOW.
AND, UH, POTENTIALLY WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET WITH A GENTLEMAN AND JUST BRING ANY UPDATES AFTER THAT? YES, MA'AM.
SO, UM, MR. OR I GUESS OFFICER ALLEN AND I, UH, ACTUALLY WENT ON SITE THIS WEEK TO GO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON OUT THERE.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN CITY LIMITS, WE HAD NO AUTHORITY THAT CHANGED TODAY.
UM, AND SO THERE'S CERTAIN CAVEATS TO THAT.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, THAT WE CAN FORCE TO COME TO CODE AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN'T, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING USE AND WE CAN'T CHANGE IT WHEN THEY COME IN.
UM, AND SO THERE'S THINGS ABOUT THAT, BUT DRAINAGE, ESPECIALLY IN, IN OUR AREA, IS A BIG DEAL.
UM, AND WE HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS AROUND DRAINAGE, WHERE BEFORE IN THE COUNTY IT WAS VERY WILD WEST, UH, LOOSEY GOOSEY.
AND SO DURING ANY SITE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR AND ADDRESSED.
UM, IF THERE IS AN EXISTING CONTINUED ISSUE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NOW HAVE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OVER FOR AND WE CAN, UM, FORCE MITIGATION TO AN EXTENT.
SO, UH, WE'RE VERY MUCH TRACKING, VERY MUCH AWARE.
UM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:10 PM AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
IF THERE IS NO COUNCIL DISCUSSION, I'M OPEN TO A MOTION.
SO I, UH, MOVE THAT COUNCIL, APPROVE 8.2, ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH OH SIX 18 DASH OH THREE, APPROVING THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TO C TWO.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BENFIELD.
DO I HAVE A SECOND AND EFFECTIVE TOMORROW? I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BENFIELD.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND FOR MR. PRINCE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
ALL AS OPPOSED SAYING NAY IS APPRO UNANIMOUSLY.
[VIII.3. Public hearing, discussion, consideration and possible action regarding Ordinance No. 26-06-18-02 regarding an amendment to the City's Water Conversation Plan to reflect 2024 data, as required by the Texas Water Development Board (TWDB). No major changes are proposed at this time, as the plan will need to be fully updated in 2029.]
ON TO ITEM EIGHT THREE, PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH OH SIX DASH EIGHT DASH OH TWO REGARDING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S WATER CONSERVATION PLAN TO REFLECT 2024 DATA AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.NO MAJOR CHANGES ARE PROPOSED AT THIS TIME, AS THE PLAN WILL NEED TO BE FULLY UPDATED IN 2029.
AND I HAVE A STAFF REPORT FROM ERNESTO MAYOR.
IT'S A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CITY LAG VISTA WATER CONSERVATION PLAN.
I APOLOGIZE, ERNESTO, I NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.
UH, IT'S 5:11 PM AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
YOU NOW YOU CAN GO
AND THE, THE CHANGES TO THE CONSERVATION
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PLAN IS ONLY THE UTILITY PROFILE, THE CHARTS IN IT, WHICH REFLECTS, UH, THAT, UH, YEARS 23, 24, NOTHING ELSE WAS CHANGED.UM, AND THAT'S, UH, THIS DOCUMENT WAS SENT TO THE WATER BOARD.
THEY ASSESSED IT, APPROVED IT, AND PROPOSED IT TO SEND TO COUNCIL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. BENFIELD? ERNESTO, I, I WENT THROUGH THE DOCUMENT PRETTY METICULOUSLY.
'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF, KIND OF MY THING.
AND, UH, I NOTICED, SO I I, I MADE A LOT OF NOTES BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS NO MAJOR CHANGES, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME CHANGES, UM, TO THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, IT, I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF IS OPEN TO DISCUSSING PRIOR TO 2029? UH, THIS WAS, UH, THE WATER BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT'S GONNA GET REDONE IN 2029 WITH THE NEW LCRA, UH, WATER, WATER PLAN.
SO THIS IS TO, TO BE SUBMITTED.
WE ARE PURSUING SEVERAL APPLICATIONS WITH THE WATER BOARD, SO THIS NEEDS TO BE AMENDED AND APPROVED SO THAT THOSE APPLICATIONS, UM, AND THIS IS ONLY THE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED, WHAT, WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED TODAY.
SO WE ARE OPEN TO THE CHANGES, BUT I THINK FOR THIS SCENARIO, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS AND WAIT UNTIL THE NEW AMENDMENT IN 2029 BE CHANGED.
I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS FOR COUNSEL.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:13 PM AND WE'LL BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION, MR. PRINCE.
WELL, I WOULD JUST ASK, UH, SO MS. BENFIELD, I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP YOU WANNA GO ON YOUR, ON YOUR THOUGHTS THERE, BUT, BUT I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M INFERRING FROM, FROM STAFF IS THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THE, THE, THE MAIN, ONE OF THEIR PERSPECTIVE OF MAIN CUSTOMERS IS THIS LEGAL BODY WHO HAS SOME AUTHORITY OVER US.
AND, AND THEY'RE SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T MESS WITH IT UNTIL THEY TELL US WE HAVE TO MESS WITH IT.
SO, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT YOU FEEL ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO CHANGE, WHICH WOULD IMPACT OUR, POTENTIALLY OUR DECISIONS AROUND ORDINANCES AND CITIZEN USE.
UH, WHICH CASE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT, IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO, TO, TO HAVE, UH, AND, AND WE SHOULD CERTAINLY, ANY, ANYTHING WE CONSIDER CHANGING, WE SHOULD SEE IF STAFF THINKS THAT'S GONNA SCREW US UP WITH THE HIGHER AUTHORITY
UH, BUT I WOULD, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO SHARE THINGS IF YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND COULD RESULT IN, UH, IN, IN SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS TO HOW WE AND HOW OUR CITIZENS USE WATER COMING FROM LAKE TRAVIS.
MR. BENEVILLE, EXCELLENT COMMENT, POINT THINKING.
UM, AND, AND I DON'T THINK THE GOAL IS TO LITIGATE EVERYTHING HERE TODAY, AND I'M CERTAINLY PREPARED TO APPROVE IT IF NO CHANGES ARE DESIRED.
BUT I'LL GIVE YOU AN, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
THE WONDER, ONE OF THE UNDERLINING TONES OF THE DOCUMENT WAS HOW CAN LOG VISTA REDUCE ITS WATER USAGE? AND I THINK ONE OF THE NUMBERS WAS, IS HOW CAN WE GET EACH HOUSEHOLD TO REDUCE ITS WATER USAGE BY FIVE GALLONS A DAY? AND IF AS A COMMUNITY WE CAN REDUCE BY FIVE GALLONS A DAY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN COLLECTIVELY OVER THE, OVER THE LONG HAUL? RIGHT? AND SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN LCR REQUIREMENT, I THINK IT'S AN INTERNAL CITY REQUIREMENT, BUT LIKE IT SAYS THAT TURF IS DEFINED AS SOD, NOT BERMUDA OR ZOIA OR BERMUDA GRASS.
SO REALLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY IS ST.
AUGUSTINE, RIGHT? AND THEN IN THAT COMMENT, IT SAYS THAT ANYBODY IN THE CITY CAN HAVE 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF ST.
WELL, MOST MUNICIPALITIES HAVE OUTLAWED AND MADE IT NOT FEASIBLE TO INSTALL ST.
AUGUSTINE BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH WATER IT USES, RIGHT? THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE BESIDES ST.
AUGUSTINE AS MENTIONED IN THE DOCUMENT, RIGHT? SO WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE DOCUMENT, ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT I WOULD NATURALLY MAKE IS, IS WHY ARE WE ALLOWING 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF ST.
AUGUSTINE TURF TO BE INSTALLED? WHY DON'T WE MAKE THAT ZERO SO THAT IT'S NOT EVEN AN OPTION? AND THAT ALONE WOULD EASILY MAKE UP THE DELTA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH OF FIVE GALLONS PER DAY, PER HOUSEHOLD.
UM, SOME OF MY CONCERNS WERE REGARDING BACKFLOW PREVENTION.
I HAVE CONCERNS THAT MOST OF THE MAJORITY OF OUR HOMES IN THE CITY OF LA VISTA HAVE GRINDER PUMPS AND PER TCEQ STANDARDS THAT REQUIRES LIKELY A A A AN RPZ BACKFLOW RATHER THAN A DOUBLE CHECK.
AND SO THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT I THINK LOCALLY WE COULD PROBABLY DO BETTER.
UM, BUT I'M NOT PREPARED TO, YOU KNOW,
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GO, I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE ANYTHING FOR LCRA.I JUST THINK THE CITY OF LAG VISTA HAS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IT SAYS IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE REQUIRE THREE INCHES OF TOPSOIL TO BE BROUGHT IN FOR EVERY NEW CONSTRUCTION.
RIGHT? WELL, WHO'S VERIFYING THAT? WHO'S DOCUMENTING THAT? I KNOW IN THE CITY OF LEANDER, THEY HAVE A PROBE THAT THEY WALK AROUND AND THEY, THEY DIP IT DOWN INTO THE GROUND.
IF THAT THING DOESN'T GO SIX INCHES, YOU FAIL.
RIGHT? BUT OUR DOCUMENT HERE SAYS IT HAS TO HAVE, SHALL HAVE THREE INCHES.
ARE WE EVEN IMPLEMENTING THAT OR CHECKING THAT? IT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RAIN SENSOR AND A SOIL MOISTURE SENSOR.
IT DOESN'T SAY A RAIN SENSOR OR A SOIL MOISTURE SENSOR.
BUT YET I KNOW HOW MANY IRRIGATION SYSTEMS I'VE INSTALLED IN THE CITY OF LAG VISTA.
AND NEVER ONCE HAVE I BEEN ASKED TO DO BOTH.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S SOME IRREGULARITIES IN THE DOCUMENT THAT OUGHT TO BE BUTTONED UP.
IF YOU THINK IT'S READY TO BE APPROVED, I'M HAPPY TO PROCEED FORWARD.
IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO TABLE IT, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SHARING WITH YOU MY RECOMMENDATIONS.
I WOULD'VE DONE THAT IN ADVANCE.
I JUST DIDN'T REVIEW IT IN TIME TO DO THAT SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT MY PROPOSALS.
AM I ALLOWED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? YES.
UH, UH, IF IT GETS TABLE, IT IS GOING TO, IT COULD NOT BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR US BECAUSE OF THE APPLICATIONS WE'RE TRYING TO SUBMIT WITH THE WATER BOARD AND CONSIDERING THEY REVIEW THIS AND THEY SAID IT WAS OKAY.
UM, I MEAN, STAFF PROPOSES THAT WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND OF COURSE, WITH THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND MENTIONED, AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT FOR THE 2029 BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE CHANGED, BUT WE WEREN'T IN SUCH A TIME CRUNCH THAT WE JUST MADE THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED SO THAT THIS CAN BE, UM, APPROVED AND SENT OUT TO THEM SO THEY CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR APPLICATIONS WITH THE WATER BOARD.
CHARLES, IS THERE ANYTHING PREVENTING US FROM APPROVING THE REQUIRED CHANGES NOW, BUT SAY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, GO IN AND REVIEW THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND MAKE THE CHANGES THAT ARE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT MR. BENEFIELD'S BROUGHT UP? TIME TWO MONTHS.
BUT, BUT I'M SAYING WE COULD DO THE, WE CAN BE WORKING ON THOSE CHANGES NOW, BUT APPROVE THIS SO WE DOESN'T HURT US ON OUR APPLICATION.
I REALLY DUNNO HOW THAT WOULD WORK, BECAUSE ONCE WE SEND THIS OUT, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE RECORDED AS OUR ORIGINAL, AS OUR OUR NEW WATER CONSERVATION PLAN.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA AFFECT ANYTHING ELSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR APPLICATIONS, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR GRANT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PURSUE HERE RECENTLY.
SO IF ANYTHING, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN START THAT.
I THINK THE QUESTION IS, SO RIGHT NOW IT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THESE FUNDING APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD THIS SUBMITTED.
SO WE CAN APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, IT'S SUBMITTED AND THAT MEANS WE'VE MET THAT REQUIREMENT FOR OUR WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD APPLICATIONS.
BUT I THINK OVER TIME WE CAN COME IN AND CHANGE THIS AND AT SOME POINT WE COULD SEND IT BACK TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, YOU KNOW, IN A MONTH, OR NOT MONTH, BUT SIX MONTHS AND SAY, WE'VE MADE UPDATES, BUT WE STILL MET OUR REQUIREMENT OF INITIALLY HAVING THIS DONE BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY DON'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND YES, I AGREE WITH NEEDS, NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT I SEE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE AND BRING TO COUNCIL.
BUT AGAIN, TIME, TIME, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE HERE.
YEAH, GUY WOULD SUPPORT APPROVING THIS TONIGHT MOVING FORWARD AND THEN MAKING THESE UPDATES IN THE FUTURE, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T KNOCK OURSELVES OUT OF THE RUNNING FOR OUR APPLICATIONS.
MS. BERILLO, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO, TO, UH, AGREE WITH THAT, BUT UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY PULL THIS BACK.
UH, MR. BENFIELD HAS BEEN A VALUABLE ASSET IN, IN FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN SAVE WATER AND CONSERVATION EFFORTS WITH HIS, UM, HISTORY AND BACKGROUND.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD UTILIZE THAT VALUABLE RESOURCE AND, UM, IN FUTURE ORDINANCE CHANGES MAYOR PRO TO.
SO ERNESTO, THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS HERE IN TIME FOR US TO BE ABLE BE ELIGIBLE.
I APPRECIATE THAT AND I AM FOR GOING AHEAD AND GETTING THIS DONE SO THAT WE CAN GET OUR APPLICATION IN.
UM, MAY I SAY A COUPLE COMMENTS, UH, SINCE THIS IS PUBLIC AND IT'S GONNA MAYBE GO ON THE WEBSITE, WE DO HAVE APP, THE APPLICATION THAT MONITORS YOUR WATER AND THIS, THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE RESIDENTS TO SIGN UP FOR THE APPLICATION.
CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 15% OF THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IT.
SO I'M GONNA UTILIZE THIS PLATFORMS TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.
AND THE SECOND COMMENT IS THAT THERE'S A LITTLE TYPO ON THE, UM, READING HERE.
IT SAYS CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF CONSERVATION.
MAYOR TOM, UH, SINCE YOU READ MY MIND AND ALREADY GAVE ME IT STARTED SAYING WHAT I WAS GONNA DIRECT, SAY, HEY CHARLES, CAN WE MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT? 'CAUSE IT'S, UH, ON THIS PATH, BUT, UH, YOU SAID IT FOR ME.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY THE A MI PORTAL ENROLLMENT, THAT WAS ONE ITEM I THINK THAT, UH, I HEARD FROM YOU THAT WE WERE ONLY AT 15% OR SO.
AND I WILL SAY THAT I FIND THAT VERY VALUABLE.
UH, JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, FIGURED OUT THROUGH THE A MI PORTAL THAT WE HAD, ONE OF OUR, UM, TOILETS IN OUR HOUSE WAS LEAKING SIX GALLONS PER, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS OUR, OR EVERY FEW
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HOURS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.UH, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE DOWN TO THE VERY PLACE WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THE, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES ON THE PORTAL ONCE WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN OUR OWN HOME.
AND SO GETTING TO, UH, WHAT COUNSELOR BENEFIELD IS STATING, I LOOK FORWARD TO US IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE THINGS ACTUALLY THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, EDUCATION IS POWER HERE, DEFINITELY WITHIN LAGO VISTA.
AND CHARLES, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME BE A LITTLE BIT OF A PEST AND SAYING, HEY, CAN WE DO A COUPLE MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS HERE THROUGH OUR, UH, CITY ANNOUNCEMENT PROCESS, ESPECIALLY ON THE A MI PORTAL ENROLLMENT? THANK YOU.
AND IF IT'S OKAY WITH COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO GET MR. BEN'S COMMENTS THAT HE WAS TALKING, MAYBE EMAILED AND, AND WE'LL LOOK IT OVER TOO.
YEAH, AND I, LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE REAL QUICK.
I'M JUST GONNA GLOSS OVER THEM SO THEY'RE IN THE MINUTES.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE 12% PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP ON THE METERING PROGRAM.
I REALLY DO THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF INITIATIVE TO GET THAT HIGHER.
UM, AS BOTH OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE ON PAGE EIGHT, THE ACREAGES FOR THE GOLF COURSES AND THE AREAS THAT WE DISTRIBUTE WATER ARE CORRECT.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE GROSSLY UNDERSTATED, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
UM, PAGE NINE REFERS TO THE WATER RESTRICTIONS ONLY TO SPRAY IRRIGATION.
MEANING YOU MAY BE INTENTIONALLY OMITTED ANY AND ALL SUBSURFACE OR DRIP IRRIGATION.
SO THE WAY THE THIS IS READ IS THAT ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY WITH AN UNCONVENTIONAL NONS SPRAY IRRIGATION CAN SKIRT 100% OF ALL, ALL OF OUR WATERING RESTRICTIONS.
UM, PAGE NINE LIMITS TO WATERING TO TWICE A WEEK, BUT IT DOESN'T COMPENSATE FOR RUN TIMES.
MEANING I COULD RUN MY IRRIGATION SYSTEM 20 FOR, FOR 12 HOURS ON THOSE TWO DAYS AS OPPOSED TO MY NEIGHBOR THAT CAN'T WATER THEIR YARD FOR FIVE MINUTES EVERY DAY.
SO THERE'S WAYS TO MANIPULATE TWO DAY WATERING.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SAVE WATER, IT JUST LIMITS PEOPLE HOW, HOW LONG THEY CAN WASTE THEM ON THOSE TWO DAYS.
SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT, THERE ARE WAYS TO LIMIT OVERALL WATER USAGE AND STILL HAVE IT ON THOSE TWO DAYS.
BUT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, YOU GIVE PEOPLE JUST UNLIMITED ACCESS TO WATER ON THOSE TWO DAYS.
UM, IT, THE, THE ON PAGE NINE, IT TALKS ABOUT TEMPORARY LANDSCAPING IN YOUR VARIANCE.
UM, IT DOESN'T GO INTO DETAIL, THE PROCESS OR ANY KIND OF PERMIT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET A VARIANCE.
SO ME, I COULD LITERALLY NOTIFY YOU THAT I NEED A VARIANCE AND IT GIVES ME 30 DAYS TO HAVE UNLIMITED WATER USE FOR 30 DAYS, AND I COULD WATER EVERY DAY WITH MASSIVE ALLOWANCES.
AND I THINK THAT'S A, I I THINK THAT'S A LOOPHOLE.
PAGE 16, I THINK THERE'S A LOOPHOLE ON ALLOWING TURF GRASS UP TO 7,000 SQUARE FEET.
I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC THAT WE'RE NOT ENFORCING OUR PZS VERSUS DOUBLE CHECKS.
I THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH US NOT ENFORCING OUR BACKFLOW PROGRAM.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BACKFLOW PROGRAM IN LOG VISTA FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
PAGE 17, THERE'S A MISTAKE WHERE IT REFERS TO RAIN SENSORS AND SOIL MIS SOIL SENSORS.
AND PAGE 17, THERE'S A HYPERLINK TO THE AUSTIN GREEN GROWER GUIDE, WHICH HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED, AND THAT LINK IS NO LONGER ACTIVE.
UH, MOST OF THOSE THINGS, UH, WERE APPROVED IN 2023, BUT AGAIN, JUST TO, IN A TIME, UH, THAT THE WATER BOARD GAVE US, IN ESSENCE, WE, NOTHING WAS MODIFIED TO AVOID ANY TYPE, BUT THE, THOSE THINGS WERE CAUGHT UP EXCEPT A COUPLE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION PROGRAM, IT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS.
UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE FEW MONTHS BEING OPTIMISTIC AGAIN, WE'LL BRING SOMETHING FORWARD.
UH, BUT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY BEING WORKED.
THE A MI WE ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT DOING, UH, UH, THOSE, UM, QR CODES ON A, ON THE CITY TRUCKS SO THEY CAN STAFF SEASON.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT CITIZENS ARE CURES AND, AND THEN JUST SNAP IT.
BUT WE ARE ALREADY WORKING ON, ON ON WATER PROGRAMS AND SUCH, BUT APPRECIATE THAT.
SO YEAH, ALL THOSE THINGS, WE GONE, YEAH, APPRECIATE IT.
MAY I MOVE THAT, UH, WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 26 DASH SIX DASH 18 DASH TWO AND AMENDMENT TO THE CITY WATER CITY'S WATER CONSERVATION PLAN TO REFLECT THE 2024 DATA.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. PRINCE.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
[IX.1. Consider, discuss, and take action regarding application for the use of Hot Funds by Oak Ridge Archery.]
MOVE TO ITEM NINE ONE, CONSIDER DISCUSSED AND TAKE ACTION REGARDING APPLICATION FOR THE USE OF HOT FUNDS BY OAK RIDGE ARCHERY.DO I HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON THIS? UH, NO.
MR. SCHNEIDER'S ACTUALLY HERE, THIS IS, UH, BEING BROUGHT BACK FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHERE SOME QUESTIONS NEEDED TO
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BE ANSWERED, AND I THINK ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE UPDATED, UH, APPLICATION THAT WAS IN THE PACKET.I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, THEN I'LL SAY, MR. SNYDER, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? THANK YOU.
I THINK WHEN WE LEFT, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF FIXING THE APPLICATION.
I THINK WE'VE COMPLETED THAT, TURNED IT IN.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, THOUGH, IF, IF THIS DOES GOES THROUGH, WHO WILL BE MY POINT OF CONTACT BE SO WHEN I HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS COMING UP, I CAN BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
DO YOU WANT ME COMING BACK HERE AND GIVEN THREE MINUTES OF A SPEECH WHEN SOMETHING IS COMING UP OR JUST RUN THROUGH MR. WEST? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT FOR MYSELF.
MR. WEST, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE THE POINT OF CONTACT TO BE UNTIL I CAN GET, UH, A FEW MORE STAFF UP TO DATE? IT WOULD BE ME AS THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SNYDER OR MR. PRINCE? NO.
UH, NOT FOR MR. SCHNEIDER? NO.
UH, THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU? LET ME ASK, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM HERE? NONE.
I'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, WHERE, WHERE I, I THINK WE LEFT IT WAS, UH, THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, UH, NEEDED TO SEE IF, IF IN FACT WE COULD GET TO AN APPLICATION THAT MET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW.
UH, I PRESUME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO GET AN, YOU KNOW, A EXPLICIT, UH, HEAD NOD FROM, FROM CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER THAT THE APPLICATION WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT, UM, YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, AND JUST, BRAD, WHILE YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT RESPONSE, UH, AS I WAS READING THROUGH IT, I WAS, I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE BULK OF THE FUNDS AGAINST ARTS, BUT THEN I, YOU KNOW, AS I READ FURTHER IN THE PACKET, THERE WAS THIS LONG, UH, EXPLANATION OF WHY ARCHERY IS AN ART FORM
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE WE, AS, AS YOU OUR STAFF LEADS ON THIS? ARE YOU COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE OKAY IN APPROVING THIS TONIGHT? MR. BULLOCK, MR. WEST? YEAH.
I MEAN, I, MR. PRINCE, THE, I THINK THE ISSUES WERE NUMBER ONE LAST TIME IT WAS THE MODIFICATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR HEADINGS, RIGHT? AND THE, THE, THE, THE, THE SUGGESTION THAT I MADE WITH THIS IS, THIS SOUNDED LIKE A CONFERENCE.
AND, UM, AND I THINK IT FITS WITHIN THAT.
UM, AND I, I THINK THESE ARE ALL PLAUSIBLE, REASONABLE, UM, DEFINITIONS AND, AND ARTICULATIONS OF, OF PROPER PUBLIC PURPOSES FOR THE PROPER USE OF THIS, UH, PROMOTION OF TOURISM, RIGHT? AND I THINK, UM, IF, IF, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THEN THE APPLICANT, UH, TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE BACK FEEDBACK OR GET, UM, YOU KNOW, DATA FROM ATTENDEES, RIGHT? THESE, YOU KNOW, IN WHATEVER MANNER IT IS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, POSTCARDS OR ONLINE OR HOWEVER IT IS THAT THEY RECEIVE THAT DATA.
I'M COMING HERE FOR TWO DAYS OF RENTED THIS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ALL OF THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OF OUT OF TOWN INFORMATION IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN THEN CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THE, THE APPLICATION ON A MOVING FORWARD BASIS AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF I, I THINK THEY'RE WITHIN THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I MADE, I THINK THEY DOCUMENTED IT AS WELL AS COULD BE.
AND I THINK YOU CAN MAKE A REASONABLE, UM, ARGUMENT THAT, THAT THIS IS IN FACT PROMOTION OF TOURISM AND IT IS IN FACT, RELATED TO THAT.
AND IT WILL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, PUT HEADS IN BEDS HERE FOR A PROPER PURPOSE.
SO I'M COMFORTABLE, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE CHANGES THAT THEY'VE MADE.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION, MS. VARRIO? NO, NO DISCUSSION.
IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, I'M OPEN TO A MOTION.
OH, MAYOR, I PERAM, I JUST REALLY WANTED TO MAKE, UH, ONE OTHER COMMENT, UH, BECAUSE MOST OF THESE ITEMS, UH, FOR ELIGIBILITY FOR THIS CONFERENCE IS PRETTY LAID OUT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT, UH, BOTH, UH, MR. WEST AND MR. SNYDER HAVE DONE.
I THINK THE ONE ADDED ITEM THAT I THOUGHT WAS, UH, EASILY ADDED IN TO THE CONFERENCE REGISTRATIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION, ARE YOU GONNA STAY THE NIGHT, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO FEED THAT BACK.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE USE OF THE HOT FUNDS BY, BY OAK RIDGE ARCHERY.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR CHAVARRIA.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
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AY, IS IT PRE UNANIMOUSLY? MOVING[IX.2. Consider, discuss, and take action regarding application for the use of Hot Funds by Oak Ridge Archery.]
ON TO ITEM NINE TWO, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND TAKE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 2212.APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AVIATION DIVISION TO ACT AS A CITY'S AGENT FOR THE DESIGN AND RECONSTRUCTION OF RUNWAY 1533 AND AIRFIELD ELECTRICAL REPLACEMENT IMPROVEMENTS AT RUSTON AIRPORT.
I BELIEVE THIS IS RELU RESOLUTION THAT IS NEEDED IN ORDER US TO GET THE, UH, FUNDING FOR THE, UH, REPLACEMENT OF THE RUNWAY.
UM, I KNOW THAT I TALKED TO AIRPORT STAFF EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THE RUNWAY IN THEIR INITIAL INVESTIGATION THIS LAST FEW DAYS, THAT RUNWAY WILL HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY REPAVED AND CHEWED UP AND ALL OF THE BASE, AND ALSO IT'S GONNA TAKE THE MAJORITY OF THESE FUNDS TO DO THAT.
WE'VE GOT A MEETING COMING UP WITH 'EM IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, UH, PRE-PLANNING MEETING.
SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'VE LAID OUT FOR US.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WEST? MAYOR PEREL? UM, ACTUALLY, I, UM, AM GONNA APPROVE THIS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT, UM, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ENSURE THE MATCH, YOU KNOW, IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE FUTURE BUDGET.
YES, WE, WE, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, UH, MAYOR PROTON.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IDENTIFY ABOUT $650,000 TOTAL.
OKAY, MR. PRINCE? UH, JUST, JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, UH, DO WE HAVE TO ENCUMBER THE, THE, THE BIG PIECE OF THAT, OF COURSE, IS THE $600,000 MATCH FOR THE THE 2028 CONSTRUCTION.
UM, DO WE HAVE TO ENCUMBER THAT AHEAD OF, UH, FY 2028 OR IT WOULD OCCUR IN FY 2028? IT WILL OCCUR IN, OKAY.
NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. WEST.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION IF YOU'RE READY.
MR. BENFIELD, I MOVE TO APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM 9.2, RESOLUTION 26 DASH 2212.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BENFIELD.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL CHAVARRIA.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
[IX.3. Consider, discuss, and take action regarding appointment of a City Council member to fill the vacancy on the Development and Building Support Subcommittee established under Resolution No.'s 25 2137 and 25-2145.]
ITEM NINE THREE, CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO FILL THE VACANCY ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING SUPPORT SUBCOMMITTEE ESTABLISHED UNDER RESOLUTION NUMBERS 25 DASH 237 AND 25 DASH 2 45.AND I'LL GO TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
UM, WHEN THE, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED, UH, THE PEOPLE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE FROM THE COUNCIL WAS MYSELF, COUNSELOR BENFIELD, AND COUNSELOR ROB DURBIN.
AS ROB DURBIN IS NO LONGER ON THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE AN OPEN SEAT.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO FEEL IT, BUT JUST WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY INTEREST IN TERMS OF ADDING THEM, ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND OR HAD ANY INTEREST IN THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
MR. PRINCE, I, I PERSONALLY HAVE ALL THE SUBCOMMITTEES I NEED, SO I I WOULD NOT VOLUNTEER FOR IT, AND I'M NOT SURE I ALSO WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH STAYING WITH JUST TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, I I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH.
UH, HAS, HAS THERE BEEN, WHEN WE SET THIS UP, IT WAS SORT OF ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, FOR THE TWO OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY, ANY ACTION, ANY, ANY TAKERS OF THIS? UH, IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS IN FACT WORTH CONTINUING? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY MR. BROWNFIELD? WOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE, UH, THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE DISCUSSED, WELL, WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, AND THE LAST MEETING WAS WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO NEXT, AND THE CONSENSUS WAS THE CHECKLISTS.
AND IT REALLY DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO CONTINUE HAVING MORE MEETINGS OR DISCUSSIONS UNTIL THOSE CHECKLISTS WERE IN PLAY.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, WE ARE, JORDAN, I SHOULDN'T SAY WE, JORDAN IS NEARING THE COMPLETION OF THOSE CHECKLISTS.
SO AS THOSE ARE COMPLETED, THE NEXT STEP WAS TO RECONVENE, HAVE A MEETING, REVIEW THAT, AND THEN EACH MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS GOING TO INVITE, UM, TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, A DEVELOPER, A BUILDER, SOMEBODY THAT HAD RELEVANT EXPERIENCE THAT COULD COME IN FOR AN INTIMATE ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION.
IT'S NOT, WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE, JUST A VERY INFORMATIVE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE DO WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR ATTENTION? AND
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THEN, UH, FROM THERE WE WERE GONNA TRY TO HAVE SOME SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS TO KIND OF ADDRESS THOSE, THAT FEEDBACK, AND THEN REALLY BEYOND THAT HOLD QUARTERLY MEETINGS THAT ANYBODY COULD COME TO SO THAT THEY COULD COME AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON A MORE REAL TIME BASIS.SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
WE HAVE BEEN STAGNANT FOR ABOUT THREE PLUS MONTHS AS WE'VE WAITED FOR THESE CHECKLISTS TO WORK THROUGH THEIR SYSTEMS. BUT, UM, AS I HAVE CONTINUED TO KIND JUST ASK WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT, I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO RESUME.
AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHY MAYOR PRO TEM BROUGHT THIS BACK UP NOW IS AS THOSE ARE GETTING CLOSE, THAT WE CAN START MEETING AGAIN PRODUCTIVELY MAYOR PRO TEM.
AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, OF COURSE, HAVING, UM, MR. VAN KING MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, HERE AT COUNCIL, UM, I THINK WE'RE AT A, A POINT WHERE ENOUGH OF THE WORK BY JORDAN HAS BEEN DONE IS ABOUT TO COME FORWARD THAT THIS COMMITTEE NOW CAN, UH, REAL TIME BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY GET, UH, FEEDBACK THAT IS HELPFUL, MAYBE DO SOME COURSE CORRECTS, ET CETERA, UH, BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, AND ALSO POTENTIALLY, UH, JUST REALLY, UM, ALLOW SOME OF OUR, UH, DEVELOPERS TO BE HEARD, UH, AND BUILDERS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO THAT COULD BE PRODUCTIVE.
AND SO AT THAT POINT, I'LL JUST SAY REAL QUICKLY, UH, BEING THAT, UM, UH, COUNCILOR BENFIELD AND I ARE FINE WITH IT JUST SAYING AS SUE, BUT IF THERE WAS ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAD INTEREST, I JUST SAID, LET'S BRING IT UP AND SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THEIR PLATE.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M JUST STARING OVER HERE.
UM, HEARING NONE, UH, COME BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR OPEN TO A MOTION.
MY THOUGHTS ARE, I'M FINE IF IT STAYS AT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MS. CHAIA, I WAS GONNA SAY, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO DO, BUT I AM SO SPREAD THIN RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, I REALLY, I THINK THAT STICKING IT TO IS PROBABLY, UM, GOOD.
I, I HAD A SPECIAL INTEREST IN THIS GROUP, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE IN GENERAL BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMITTEE AND, AND THINGS THAT WAS GOING ON WITH THIS AND EDC AND JUST THINGS IN GENERAL.
BUT, UM, I, I JUST REALLY CAN'T DEDICATE ANY TIME TO IT AT THIS POINT.
WELL, WITH THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY ACTION, MAYOR, THAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE IT RUN IN AND WE ALREADY HAVE TWO MEMBERS.
THE ONLY ACTION THAT WOULD'VE OCCURRED IS IF THERE WAS ANOTHER MEMBER THAT WAS INTERESTED.
[IX.4. Consider, discuss, and take action regarding the creation and appointment of members to a Public Safety Committee.]
TO ITEM NINE FOUR, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND TAKE ACTION REGARDING THE CREATION OF APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.I HAVE COUNCIL CHAVAR, UH, MAYOR, I HAD ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THIS.
I'M BE BROUGHT AND PLACED ON, UM, THE AGENDA.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE, UH, NOT REALLY HAD THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VANNESS, NOR WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER BENFIELD AND, UM, OUR POLICE CHIEF TO REALLY KIND OF BUTTON UP A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD'VE LIKED TO.
UM, SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE, UM, YOU CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON OUR DISCUSSION BOARD.
I WOULD RATHER WE JUST TABLE THIS, BRING THIS BACK.
ONCE I HAVE A PROPOSED CHARTER, WE NARROW THE SCOPE DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND, UH, GIMME A CHANCE TO, UM, MAYBE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNICATION AND FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I KNOW THAT, UM, SOME OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES FOR, UM, JOINING THIS COMMITTEE HAVE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO ME BY EMAIL, AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THEM.
OKAY, MR. PRINCE? YEAH, MY, MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE, AND THIS IS KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I SAID WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP THE FIRST TIME, UM, MY OBSERVATION ON COMMITTEES IN GENERAL ARE, THEY ARE EFFECTIVE TO THE EXTENT THAT, UH, STAFF AND, UH, AND THE CITIZENS INVOLVED WITH THE COMMITTEE ARE, ARE VIEW IT JOINTLY AS A HELPFUL ACTIVITY.
RIGHT? AND SO, UH, WHATEVER, AS YOU'RE WORKING ON THE PROPOSAL WITH MI, MS. VANNESS, I, I WOULD SAY, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOU GOT STAFF BUY-IN, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL TO THEM AS PROPOSED.
AND, AND, AND WITH THAT, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M, I'M, I'M EXPECTING THAT I WILL BE, UH, VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING IT WHEN IT COMES BACK.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NOW, I'LL COME BACK FOR A DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.
SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GOOD TO NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM.
[IX.5. Approve the minutes of the May 28, 2026 City Council Workshop. ]
FIVE, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 28TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.CHARLES, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO APPROVE IN THOSE MINUTES OTHER THAN WE HAD A MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WEST? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'LL BRING IT BACK
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TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 28TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL CHAVARRIA.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH, MAYOR, UH, MR. I'LL JUST COMMENT THAT AS NOTED IN THE MINUTES.
UH, SO I'LL ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE OF APPROVING THE MINUTES SINCE I WAS NOT THERE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY DISAPPROVED FOUR ZERO.
OH, WE ACTUALLY CANNOT DO THIS.
I WAS NOT AT THE WORKSHOP AS WELL.
THAT IS CORRECT, BRAD, IF YOU'RE NOT AT THE MEETING, ARE YOU NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES.
UM, IT'S NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED FOR YOU TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THE VOTE ON APPROVING THE MINUTES.
UM, IF JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT AT THE MEETING, THAT'S THAT, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO IT, BUT IT'S NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE I REVIEWED THEM.
I MEAN, I, THE MEETING, I, I, I MEAN, WHAT, SO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING IS WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THE, THE, IT IS ULTIMATELY THE SECRETARY'S JOB OR WHOEVER ACCESS THE SECRETARY, IF IT'S A BOARD OR COMMISSION TO KEEP ACCURATE MINUTES.
UM, THEY AFFIRM TO YOU THAT THE MINUTES ARE ACCURATE.
UNLESS YOU DETERMINE THAT THERE IS AN INACCURACY AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT A VIDEO OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU, BUT, BUT OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A MINISTERIAL ACT.
BUT I MEAN, THE ONLY WAY THAT, THAT THE MINUTES CAN BECOME OFFICIAL IS IF THEY'RE APPROVED.
I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE WATCHED THE MEETING.
SO IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO, TO, YOU CAN, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
SO I I I, YOU MAY VOTE ON THEM.
JUST BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T VOTE.
I DID REVIEW THEM, BUT I WAS NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT.
YEAH, NO, IT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT TO THEN TAKE ACTION IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A, AS THE LEGISLATOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
AND I, I WILL SIMPLY EXTEND MY COMMENTS TO SAY I WAS NOT AT THE MEETING AND I HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO REVIEW VIDEO OF IT, AND THEREFORE I CANNOT.
MY ABSTAINING IS ACCORDING TO THAT.
AND ROBIN, UH, WE TOOK A VOTE.
IT'S STILL APPROVED AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES 'CAUSE IT DOES SHOW KAREN, UH, COUNSELOR, I'M SORRY.
UH, COUNSELOR PRINCE AND COUNSELOR CHAVARRIA PRESENT.
I BELIEVE I, I WAS NOTED AS NOT BEING THERE WITH AN EXCUSE TO ABSENCE, I BELIEVE WHEN I READ THE MINUTES, UNLESS I, I'M SORRY.
I SHOULD JUST WANNA CHECK THAT.
JUST SAY MS. CHAVARRIA WAS THERE.
I WAS NOT AT THE FOLLOWING WEEK MEETING.
I WAS NOT AT THE FOLLOWING WEEKS MEETING.
[X.1. Lake Travis Research, Resilience, and Ecological Tourism Initiative Discussion.]
TO ITEM TEN ONE LAKE TRAVIS RESEARCH RESILIENCE AND ECOLOGICAL TOURISM INITIATIVE.I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH LCRA, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, SORT OF THIS CONCEPT AROUND ECOLOGICAL TOURISM.
LIKE HOW CAN WE BRING MORE PEOPLE HERE TO LAGO VISTA IF WE WERE INVOLVED IN MORE RESEARCH AROUND LAKE TRAVIS.
AND THE UNIVERSITY HAS THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, UM, THAT ARE DOING RESEARCH.
SOME OF THEM ARE RESEARCHING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE.
SOME OF THEM ARE RESEARCHING HOW WE'RE USING IT AS CLEAN WATER.
SOME OF THEM ARE RESEARCHING THE WILDLIFE THAT'S IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THE INTRODUCTION OF THE ZEBRA MUSSELS AND OTHERS.
AND I BASICALLY WAS, UH, FISHING FOR HOW CAN LAGO VISTA BE MORE INVOLVED? ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE COULD BE HELPING YOU GUYS AND YOUR RESEARCH AND THEN THIS BECOME A DESTINATION WHERE PEOPLE COME HERE TO DO THAT RESEARCH.
UM, SO I'M STILL EXPLORING SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS.
YES, WE DO A LOT OF OUR RESEARCH CLOSER TO THE DAM OVER NEAR CLOSER TO LAKEWAY.
WE HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT, UM, OUT WEST.
SO LAGO VISTA COULD BE PRIMED TO BE A GOOD LOCATION.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY ASKED ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY ONE WOULD BE FUNDING, UH, TWO THAT WOULD BE ALLOWING STUDENTS TO COME HERE AND DO RESEARCH.
UH, I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH LAGO VISTA PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, IF THEY WOULD ALLOW ACCESS THROUGH CODY PARK OR OTHERS AND LET RESEARCHERS GO OUT THERE.
UM, OR MAYBE THEY COULD USE THE BARGES THAT OUR WATER INTAKES ARE ON TO PUT SOME GAUGES ON.
UM, AND THEN TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, SIMILAR INTERESTS, AND THEY'RE HAPPY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AN MOU WITH THEIR UNIVERSITY.
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UM, SO REALLY JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU GUYS A HEADS UP THAT THIS IS A, A TOPIC I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO EXPLORE.UM, MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO GO TO.
ONE OF OUR COMMITTEES MIGHT BE SOMETHING FURTHER TO THE EDC TO LOOK INTO.
UM, BUT, UM, I KIND OF ALREADY HAVE AUTHORITY FROM Y'ALL THAT HAS A GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS LIAISON TO HAVE SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, BUT WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU AS A WORK SESSION BRAINSTORMING.
IS THIS A CONCEPT YOU THINK, UH, HAS LEGS HERE IN LAGO VISTA? AND SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IF THESE ENTITIES DO WANT TO USE US AS A PARTNER, YOU THINK THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY OR RESOURCES TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE LAKE? WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE IT BACK TO COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM.
SO THANK YOU FOR OFFERING TO, UM, SEE ABOUT THE EDC.
UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WENT AHEAD AND MADE A NOTE REQUEST FOR MAYOR SOM TO PRESENT THIS TO THE EDC.
UM, AND SO I'LL, UM, WITH COUNCIL'S, UH, PERMISSION AND AS LIAISON, UH, WITH EDC, I WILL BRING THAT FORWARD TO THEM IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE AN ITEM.
UM, I THINK THIS FITS WITHIN OUR, UH, GETAWAY, YOU KNOW, TOURISM CONCEPT.
AND, UM, SO, UH, THE THING THAT I'M NOT SURE IN TERMS OF, UH, MAYBE AT LEAST, UM, WHAT I WOULD MINIMALLY LIKE TO SEE IS THAT ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE AS YOU HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, DO GET TO MYSELF AND TO ERIC TO BE ABLE TO DISSEMINATE TO EDC.
AND THEN ONCE THERE IS DEFINITE, UM, A DEFINITE PATH FORWARD, THEN UH, BRING IT AS A FULL BLOWN, UM, AGENDA ITEM SO THAT THE EDC CAN BE A PART OF IT.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MR. VAN WORKING? THE ONLY PIECE I WOULD ADD TO ASK IS IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC GROUP OR ORGANIZATION YOU'VE ALREADY FOUND FOR EGO TOURISM OR RESEARCH.
IF YOU CAN GET THAT TO ERIC, I'LL REACH OUT TO OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS WITHIN THAT NICHE AND TRY TO FURTHER PUSH IT INTO A MORE ORCHESTRATED EFFORT.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY ONE GROUP THROUGH LCRA, UM, A PARTNERSHIP WITH ANOTHER NONPROFIT CALLED CROWN.
AND THEY TRAINED PEOPLE HOW TO TEST WATER QUALITY THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT LAKES AND STREAMS. AND SO I KNOW WATER QUALITY IS AN ISSUE HERE IN LAGO VISTA THAT PEOPLE BRING UP.
UM, THEY COULD TRAIN YOU TO GO OUT THERE, TAKE THE SAMPLES, SEND IT INTO THE WA, SEND IT INTO LCRA, THEY'LL TEST IT AND SEND IT BACK.
AND THAT BECOMES A DATA POINT FOR WATER QUALITY IN THIS AREA.
UM, THAT'S ONE THAT I HEARD, I THOUGHT, I'M SURE I COULD FIND CITIZENS TOO, WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
WELL, THE EDC PART WAS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
[X.2. Veteran Support Initiatives, Resource Fair and Potential Veterans Appreciation Month.]
TWO VETERAN SUPPORT INITIATIVES, RESOURCE FAIR, AND POTENTIAL VETERANS APPRECIATION MONTH.I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HEADS UP.
UH, YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT FROM NICK HERE AND THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
UM, ORIGINALLY WHEN I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, I WAS DEBATING WHETHER WE WANTED THIS TO BE A CITY, UH, INVOLVED EVENT.
UM, ON AUGUST 8TH, I WORKED WITH, UH, THE VFW HERE AND THE, UH, TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION.
THEY'RE GONNA DO A RESOURCE FAIR.
UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS AGREED TO ALLOW US TO USE THE GYMNASIUM.
I THINK IT KEEPS IT'S MORE VALUABLE, UM, FOR IT NOT TO BE A CITY RELATED EVENT FOR NOW.
I THINK THE VFW LEADING IT WITH THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION IS A GREAT MODEL BECAUSE I KNOW THE VFW IS VERY INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON SERVICES TO THE VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO THIS IS A GREAT JUMPING OFF POINT.
OBVIOUSLY ANY OF US CAN ATTEND AND, AND I'LL BE THERE 'CAUSE I'M HELPING AS MUCH AS I CAN TO COORDINATE WITH SOME OF THE ENTITIES.
UM, I USED TO WORK FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION, UH, SO I KNOW THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SO MANY RESOURCES.
THERE'LL BE BOOTHS EVERYWHERE ACROSS THE HIGH SCHOOL GYMNASIUM FLOOR.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA BRING THE, THE VETERAN LAND BOARD.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO BRING SOMEBODY FROM THE VA AND THAT IS FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION, ONE OF THE GREATEST RESOURCES THEY ARE FOR VETERANS IN THE STATE IS THEY CAN BE THAT LIAISON FOR YOU AT THE VA.
DEALING WITH THE VA CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT.
TVC HAS THE ABILITY TO JUMP YOU IN THE LINE ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH WHEN YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE NONPROFITS WHO DO VETERAN SERVICES, SO THEY'RE GONNA REACH OUT TO SOME OF THOSE PARTNERS AND HAVE 'EM THERE.
UH, TRAVIS COUNTY VETERAN SERVICES WILL LIKELY BE HERE AS WELL.
UH, I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE A GREAT DAY OF BRINGING VETERANS OUT.
AND, UH, THE ONE THING I GUESS I WOULD ASK OF THE CITY, IF WE ARE OKAY WITH, UH, HELPING PROMOTE IT.
SO IF OUR, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, IF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA HELPS PUT OUT WHEN THAT EVENT COMES OUT, THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION'S GONNA MAKE THE MARKETING MATERIALS FOR IT.
UH, IT'LL HAVE THE VFW PROMINENT ON IT AND IT'LL HAVE THE LAGO VISTA ISD PROMINENT ON IT.
AND THAT'S JUST THE FIRST PART OF THIS ITEM THAT I WAS BRINGING UP.
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TO NICK'S REQUEST, HE WANTED A WHOLE VETERANS APPRECIATION MONTH.UH, I THOUGHT AUGUST COULD FIT WELL FOR THAT.
IF THERE'S AN INTEREST, UM, FROM LOG FROM THE COUNCIL, WE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD IN JULY AND MAKE IT OFFICIAL.
I LOOKED, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THAT CONFLICTS WITH.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE SYNERGY THERE THAT MAY 7TH IS, UH, PURPLE HEART, UH, RECOGNITION DAY.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE FAIR AND THAT'LL BE MORE SUPPORT FOR THEM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M ASKING Y'ALL HERE NOW.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER WAS WHERE THE CITY COULD BE MORE INVOLVED IS SIMILAR TO THE, UH, WEBSITE THAT WE DID ON OUR SITE, UM, HAVING TO DO WITH THE FOOD PANTRIES.
I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A SITE FOR VETERAN SERVICES.
YES, WE DON'T PROVIDE VETERAN SERVICES, BUT SOME PEOPLE LOOK TO THE CITY AND THINK THAT THIS IS WHERE YOU MIGHT FIND INFORMATION.
IT WOULD BE AS SIMPLE AS LINKING TO THE VETERANS COMMISSION WOULD HELP US PUT ALL THE APPROPRIATE LINKS.
AND SO IF YOU WERE IN LAGO AND YOU WERE LOOKING FOR VETERAN SERVICES, YOU WOULD SEE ON OUR WEBSITE, WE'D HAVE LINKS TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT ONES THAT THE VETERANS, UH, COMMISSION HAS.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE, I WOULD HOPE A LOW, UH, WORK THRESHOLD FOR OUR STAFF TO DO, UH, WITHOUT ANY HEAVY TIMELINE ON WHEN TO DO IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER REQUEST WE HAD IS JUST, UH, INITIATIVES TO HELP US HIRE MORE VETERANS HERE IN CITY JOBS.
SO WITH ALL OF THAT, I JUST DUMPED ON YOU GUYS.
I WILL PASS IT TO ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS, MR. PRINCE, AND JUST, UM, DATE QUESTIONS.
UH, SO, UH, WHAT I HEARD EARLIER WAS AUGUST 7TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY IS PURPLE HEART DAY.
JUST CONFIRM THAT WITH A GOOGLE SEARCH HERE.
UH, BUT THE LOCAL EVENT WILL BE SATURDAY, AUGUST 8TH, CORRECT.
FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM OKAY, GOOD.
AND THEN THE, UH, I I'M, I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF DOING THE DECLARATION FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A GREAT IDEA.
UM, I, I THINK THAT, UM, I I'M IN FAVOR OF THE CITY HAVING SOME PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY OF LAG VISTA ON OUR WEBSITE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, VETERANS, UM, SERVICES, LOCAL VETERAN SERVICES.
I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT COULD BE ON THAT SAME PAGE IS LOCAL FOOD BANK.
AND I, I JUST, UH, RELATED TO THAT, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A MEETING THAT I THINK THE LIONS CLUB ACTUALLY SPONSORED IT.
IT MET AT ROLLING HILLS COMMUNITY CHURCH JUST A FEW WEEKS BACK, MAYBE WITHIN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, UH, WHERE IT WAS A COORDINATION EFFORT OF ALL THE LOCAL FOOD SERVICE PROVIDERS.
SO I, I THINK THAT IN GENERAL, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER CHARLES, TO THE EXTENT YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE, I THINK, UH, THE CITY HAVING SOME SORT OF INFORMATIONAL PAGE WITH THINGS THAT ARE NOT CITY DRIVEN, BUT THAT ARE RELEVANT TO OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT AS, UH, MAYBE AN INITIATIVE FOR YOUR COMMUNICATION STAFF, UH, WHEN YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
UM, I'LL SAY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A LINK ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT'S, UH, LISTED UNDER OUR COMMUNITY AND IT KIND OF LISTS, YOU KNOW, AREA ATTRACTION, CITY EVENTS, UH, GOLF COURSE, GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAMS. I THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE LIKE ANOTHER LITTLE LINK THAT JUST DROPS DOWN THERE THAT HAS OUR FOOD PANTRIES RESOURCES, BASICALLY OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCES PAGE.
I THINK THAT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA.
UM, AND, UH, LOOK, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS COME TO FRUITION.
AND I'LL SAY WE DO HAVE A FOOD PANTRY INFORMATION PAGE ON THERE.
JUST HOPEFULLY WE ARE CAPTURING EVERYBODY IN TOWN.
ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
[X.4. Budget Discussion: Including information on City office facility updates and IT updates.]
ITEM FOUR.BUDGET DISCUSSION, INCLUDING INFORMATION ON CITY OFFICE FACILITY UPDATES AND IT UPDATES.
UH, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT RATHER THAN ASKING CHARLES AND EMAIL, I JUST THOUGHT I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SOME UPGRADES IN CITY HALL GOING AS FAR BACK AS ADDING THESE TVS.
UM, SOME CHANGES TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD SOME UPGRADES.
UH, JUST LIKE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON, UH, THE COSTS OF THESE FACILITY UPDATES AND IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER ONES THAT WE WOULD EXPECT AND ANY IMPACT ON THE BUDGET.
WE, UM, I DON'T, THERE'S ONE LAST ONE MORE PROJECT WE'RE LOOKING AT CITY HALL.
UH, I THINK THEY FINALLY GOT ALL THE QUOTES IN IS IF THERE WERE UTILITY BILLING GIRLS SET, THEY SET ON EACH SIDE OF A DOORWAY TO A SMALL OFFICE.
UH, NICOLE ASKED IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD REMOVE THAT WALL AND OPEN THAT SPACE UP TO JUST AN OPEN SPACE TO GIVE ALL OF THEM MORE ROOM AND NOT ISOLATE, UH, DONNA WHO'S IN THE BACK THERE.
'CAUSE SHE'S KINDA ISOLATED FROM EVERYTHING ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND, BUT ALL THREE OF THOSE LADIES DO A FANTASTIC JOB OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE STAFF AND STUFF.
UM, NICOLE, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE QUOTES WERE THAT WE RECEIVED SO FAR? I THINK THE HIGHEST ONE WAS, WELL WE GOT ONE FOR 30,000 AND I JUST, THAT AIN'T HAPPENING.
UM, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN ONE FOR ABOUT 10,000 OR 11,000 STILL LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL AND OTHER THINGS THERE.
AND LIKE I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, I DON'T WANNA PUT
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A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS BUILDING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT TO KEEP IT FROM FALLING DOWN ON OUR EARS.UM, PAINT AT THE PD HA THAT BUILDING HADN'T BEEN PAINTED SINCE IT WAS BUILT.
UM, AND IT LOOKED PRETTY BAD OVER THERE.
SO I THINK IT WAS $19,000 THEY SPENT TO GET IT PAINTED THE FLOORING.
I DO NOT REMEMBER THE COST OF THE FLOORING CHIEF.
WHAT WAS THE COST TO REPLACE THE FLOORING AT THE PD? UH, 35,000.
AND, AND I WILL, I WILL SAY ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, THEY HAVE NOT HAD A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE BUDGET.
WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN IT OUT OF LINE ITEMS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE.
UM, IT, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN LISTED AS BUILDING MAINTENANCE, BUT WE HAD SAVINGS IN OTHER AREAS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE MONEY AROUND.
SOME OF IT WAS IN PERSONNEL, BUT A LOT OF IT JUST WAS EXPENDITURES THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION OR WE LOOKED AT AND SAID, HEY, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
THIS IS SOMETHING MORE WE NEED.
SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE, THOSE DEALS GONE.
UM, WE HAVE SPENT A WHOLE LOT ON TECHNOLOGY AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE PRICE 'CAUSE IT, IT ABOUT FLOORED ME, BUT WE'VE SPENT OVER $200,000 ON TECHNOLOGY IN THIS BUDGET YEAR.
BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY BUDGETED.
UM, UM, BECAUSE AS WITH ANYTHING ELSE, EVERYTHING HAS A LIFESPAN AND WE HIT THAT LIFESPAN ON COMPUTERS AND THEY ORDERED ENOUGH COMPUTERS TO REPLACE EVERY DESKTOP IN THE CITY THIS YEAR.
AND I'VE GOTTEN WITHSTAND THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
THE, UH, DESKTOPS WILL BE REPLACED IN PROBABLY FIVE TO 10 COMPUTERS AT A TIME INSTEAD OF 50 AT A TIME.
SO IF I HAVE A COMPUTER GO DOWN, IF I BUY ALL THESE COMPUTERS, LIKE NOW I'M CONCERNED 'CAUSE ALL OF MY COMPUTERS ARE THE SAME AGE.
THEY'RE DUE TO GO OUT OUT AT THE SAME TIME.
I HAVE THESE AIR CONDITIONERS IN THIS BUILDING THAT ARE ALL EXCESS OF 20 YEARS OLD EXCEPT FOR ONE, WELL I THINK THERE'S FOUR ON THIS BUILDING OR IS IT FIVE? ANYWAY, I'M WAITING FOR THE OTHER FOUR TO START GOING OUT.
'CAUSE WE'RE HAVING ALL KINDS OF HEATING AND COOLING PROBLEMS IN THIS BUILDING.
SOME DAYS IT'S LIKE A REFRIGERATOR, SOME DAYS IT'S LIKE A SAUNA.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.
BUT WE ARE WATCHING THE BUDGET REAL CLOSE.
UM, STAFF'S BEEN REALLY GOOD AT COMING TO ME ON EXPENDITURES AND THE IDEAS AND LIKE WHEN THE CHIEF CAME TO ME WITH THE HIS PRICES, I SAID, WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? HE WAS ABLE TO SHOW ME WHERE THEY'VE SAVED IT IN THEIR BUDGET, UNFORTUNATELY IS MOSTLY THROUGH PERSONNEL AND OTHER THINGS.
AND THEN SOME THINGS THAT WERE IN THE BUDGET, WE STILL AIN'T FIGURED OUT WHY THEY WERE ASKING FOR 'EM.
SO YOU'RE BUDGET PROCESS, SINCE THAT LEADS RIGHT INTO MY NEXT THING HERE WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE OUR OVERALL BUDGET THIS COMING YEAR BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE ON OUR EXPENDITURES.
WE'RE GETTING EXPENDITURES DOWN TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
I WISH I COULD SAY THAT FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
PUBLIC WORKS IS FINDING LOTS OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSED THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED NOW.
PARKS DEPARTMENT, WE'VE GOTTA INCREASE THEIR BUDGET BECAUSE THE DEMAND FOR PARKS HAS GONE UP AND THE WORKLOAD FOR THEIR STAFF IS GONNA, BECAUSE I'VE TAKEN BUILDING MAINTENANCE AWAY FROM MY PUBLIC WORK STAFF AND GIVING IT TO MY PARK STAFF.
AND DAVID'S GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OF KEEPING UP WITH EVERYTHING.
UM, BUT WITH ALL THE RAIN, THEY GOT A LOT MORE MOWING TO DO THAN THEY NORMALLY WOULD.
SO THEY'RE STAYING BUSY WITH THAT.
SO IF STAFF HAS TO DO SOME OF THIS THEMSELVES, WE'RE DOING THIS OURSELVES, UH, PAINTING IN CITY HALL, WE DID THAT PAINTING OURSELVES IN HOUSE.
LIKE I PAINTED MY OWN OFFICE ON THE WEEKEND.
UH, NICOLE PAINTED HER OFFICE.
PUBLIC WORK STAFF ACTUALLY CAME UP HERE AND PAINTED THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHEN THAT WAS DONE.
SO WE'RE BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE MONEY.
WE'RE NOT JUST THROWING MONEY AROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR GOING HOG WHILE, OR IF THEY ARE, THEY HAVEN'T BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION 'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT ON.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF EXPENDITURES.
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY OVERALL WE'VE PUT ABOUT $250,000 INTO CITY HALL THIS YEAR.
BUT THAT'S WHEN YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, THAT'S COUNTING SOME OF OUR, UH, TECHNOLOGY STUFF, WHICH IS SPREAD OUT AMONGST MULTIPLE BUILDINGS.
THAT INCLUDES COMPLETE UPGRADES AT THE LIBRARY POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR BUILDING PUBLIC WORKS, BUILDING SWIMMING POOL.
I THINK WE DID SOME WORK AT THE POOL ON THE COMPUTER, DIDN'T WE DAVID? YEAH.
SO BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GOT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WEST, MR. PRINCE? UH, SO COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, PER OUR PROCEDURES, CITY MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE MONEY AROUND WITHIN A DEPARTMENT AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T EXCEED THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, RIGHT? YES.
AND SO IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING HAS HAPPENED, UH, ACCORDING TO THE, TO THE APPROVED PROCEDURES.
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IS, WHICH IS GOOD.UM, UM, AND I'LL, I'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UM, RE ADVERTISE THE POSTMORTEM FOR THE BUDGET THAT ENDED IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, WHICH I DID POST.
SO I, I TOLD YOU ALL I WOULD, AND I DID POST ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD.
I KNOW THE, THE OTHER TWO MEMBERS OF THE, THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE, MS. OWEN AND MR. SOM, UH, COMMENTED ON THAT.
I'LL ENCOURAGE OTHER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO LOOK THROUGH THAT.
UH, AND THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A DECENT NUMBER OF, OF VIEWS OF IT.
SO SOME CITIZENS HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID, UH, SAY FOR ME WAS A KEY TAKEAWAY FROM THE BUDGET THAT ENDED IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR WAS, UM, BUDGETING NEEDED TO IMPROVE.
'CAUSE WE UNDERSPENT OUR BUDGET BY A LOT, WHICH, UH, COULD BE EXPLAINED BY TWO THINGS.
IT COULD BE BELT TIGHTENING AND WE WERE CONSERVATIVE.
IT ALSO COULD BE THAT WE JUST DID A SLOPPY JOB OF BUDGETING, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, AND, AND SO, UH, WHILE I'M ON THE ONE HAND ENCOURAGED THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO DO ALL THIS WORK WITHIN THE EXISTING BUDGET, I THINK THAT DOES KIND OF POINT BACK TO AS WE GO INTO THIS NEXT BUDGET ROUND, OUR, OUR, UH, BUDGETING, UH, NEEDS TO BE A A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE.
AND I WOULD SAY, UM, THINGS LIKE THIS, WHICH ARE MAINTENANCE TO OUR BUILDINGS AND, UH, UPDATES TO OUR BUILDINGS, UH, CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE THOSE THINGS IN THE BUDGET.
I, IT, IT WOULD, FROM MY PER PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO BUDGET FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS AS OPPOSED TO PAY FOR THEM BECAUSE WE UNDERST SPENT IN OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE.
I'M JUST KIND OF PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
BUT, UH, I THINK ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE, I'M SURE APPRECIATED BY STAFF AND, AND SOUND LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD DECISIONS.
SO, UH, FIRST I'LL SAY THANK YOU, CHARLES, FOR GETTING US OFF, UH, DEPLOYING THE 200,000, GETTING US OFF WIN 10.
UM, SO HAVING TO DO THE WHOLESALE, UH, CHANGE WAS ACTUALLY DRIVEN, UH, BECAUSE STAYING ON WINDOWS 10 AND, UH, WITH OUR CURRENT PROCESS THAT WE USE, 'EM ACTUALLY, UH, PRESENTED A SECURITY CONCERN.
SO THERE WAS ANOTHER DRIVER BEHIND THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER.
UM, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT THOUGH, WATCHING IT, I THINK STAN FEELS THAT, UH, WE CAN BUILD IN A PROGRESSIVE UPDATE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A WHOLESALE REPLACEMENT WHEN WE GET PAST CURRENT WINDOWS PROVISIONS, RIGHT.
AND HAVE THOSE SECURITY CONCERNS.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I AM GONNA SAY THAT THAT IS AN END OF LIFE.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER.
SO, UH, JUST KNOWING, UH, UH, POTENTIALLY WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS COMING UP FOR FUTURE COUNCILS, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE COULD BUILD THIS IN, BUT HAVING FORESIGHT OF THAT, THAT IS TO ME A TECHNOLOGY CIP RIGHT? AND HAVING POTENTIALLY A FIVE YEAR PLANNED, UH, FOR IT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WARRANTED.
JUST SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THAT IN MIND AND UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS COMING UP.
UM, IN REGARD TO FACILITY USE, I'M GONNA SAY, UM, YES, I AGREE.
UH, COUNCILOR PRINCE THAT, UM, CHARLES, UH, STAFF DID A MAGNIFICENT JOB IN JUST FINDING OUT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THESE UPGRADES, WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM AND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT IT DOESN'T LESSEN ANY OF OUR SERVICE RIGHT TO RESIDENTS OUT THERE.
UM, I'M GONNA SAY, HERE'S MY CAVEAT TO THAT.
UM, ON THINGS LIKE THIS, IN DOING, UM, A WHOLESALE, UM, UP UPGRADE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN HERE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WITHIN CAPACITY, UM, I WOULD USE THAT AS A MARKER OR DISCUSSION.
NOT SO MUCH THE PERMISSION YOU'RE DOING IT, BUT HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, MAINLY FOR USEFUL LIFE OUT OF THE, THE CURRENT FACILITY.
I, I HAVE CONTINUED TO SAY WE ARE UP AGAINST A WALL IN REGARD TO WE CANNOT ADD ANY MORE STAFF.
AND SO IF WE ARE HAVING TO DO ANY KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS IN ORDER TO COMPENSATE BECAUSE WE BASICALLY HAVE NO ROOM, WE'VE GOTTA ADD ANOTHER DESK, HOW ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? WE'VE GOTTA TAKE OUT A WALL OR SOMETHING.
THAT WAS NOT THE CASE IN THE SCENARIO THAT YOU, UH, CITED CHARLES, BUT THAT DOES GIVE US A, A HEADS UP.
AND IF WE ARE HAVING TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS MORE OFTEN TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO UPGRADE, THAT IS A VERY, UM, A GOOD INDICATION ON WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO HAVING TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF INTERMEDIATE PLAN FOR OFFICE SPACE OR A NEW FACILITY
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OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.UM, I'M JUST GONNA STATE HERE, I BELIEVE WE'RE BEYOND WHAT IS CONSIDERED A, UM, THE ABILITY TO SERVE SO CURRENT STAFF'S SPACE IN THEIR ABILITY TO SERVE.
WHEN YOU HAVE 150, UH, SQUARE FOOT PER PERSONNEL, YOU START GETTING LESS THAN THAT.
UH, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE ROOM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MANEUVER AND ADD THE DESK AND HAVE THE FILING SPACE OR WHATEVER ELSE MAY BE.
UH, TECHNOLOGY, I THINK HAS BEEN A, A SAVING GRACE FOR US BECAUSE WE POTENTIALLY ARE NOW GOING TO DIGITAL FILES VERSUS PAPER FILES.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE STORAGE NEEDS THAT WE'VE HAD PRIOR.
SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION THERE TOO.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO, UH, STATE THESE THINGS IN THE OPEN SO THAT, UH, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO, I CONSIDER THAT POTENTIALLY JUST AN ITEM THAT COULD BE USED AS A DASHBOARD METRIC IN MY MIND AS TO THE STATE OF WHERE WE ARE ON OUR FACILITIES.
UH, MY, MY ONE COMMENT WAS ONE, KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THIS DISCUSSION OF IF WE'RE KNOCKING WALLS OUT SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE STAFF IN, AND I GET THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE ON THE FRONT DESK UP HERE, WE'RE JUST REMOVING WALLS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA ADD ANY ADDITIONAL DESKS OR ANYTHING.
WE'RE JUST OPENING IT UP SO THAT THEY DON'T FEEL CLOSED OFF.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
I MEAN, UH, SHE SITS WITH THE DOOR OPEN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY'RE THREE OR FOUR FEET AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.
AGAIN, THESE AREN'T OUR PERSONAL DOLLARS, THESE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
SO TO OPEN SOMETHING UP JUST SO THAT SOMEONE FEELS MORE INCLUDED, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD SPEND THAT MONEY, NICOLE.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE ONE PERSON IS BACK AND EXCLUDED IT IS BECAUSE THE WALL IS MAKING IT SO MY OTHER PERSON CANNOT MOVE.
TOBY, WHO IS THE ONE WHO SITS THERE, WHO IS ALMOST SIX FOOT MM-HMM
ALMOST SIX FEET TALL, HAS, WHAT IS THAT? MAYBE 16 SQUARE FEET.
IS HER DESK, HER CHAIR, THE WALL? SHE WORKS IN 16 SQUARE FEET AND ALLEY IS ONE.
BASICALLY, WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN A SPACE THAT'S FOR TWO PEOPLE.
I, I HAVE TWO GIRLS HERE AND ONE GIRL HERE.
IT IS TO OPEN RIGHT THIS SPACE SO THAT THEIR CHAIRS CAN MOVE AND THEN I CAN REALLOCATE THE WAY THAT THEIR DESKS FIT SO THAT THEY CAN MANEUVER.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE ONE'S FURTHER BACK AND SPACED OUT FROM THE OTHERS, IT'S SO THAT I CAN UTILIZE THAT SPACE BETTER TO FIT THEM AGAIN.
I HAVE AN ALMOST SIX FOOT TALL WOMAN SITTING IN 16 SQUARE FEET THIS WAY.
SHE HAS TO TURN HER CHAIR THIS WAY.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A LITERALLY A PHYSICALLY BEING ABLE TO, AND WE'RE GONNA REMAIN AT THE STAFFING LEVEL THAT WE HAVE OF THOSE THREE.
'CAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, ONE OF 'EM MIGHT BE RETIRING SOON AND WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THAT POSITION.
AND THEY ARE SCANNING RIGHT NOW TO DIGITIZE SO THAT I CAN GET FILING CABINETS OUT OF THERE TO STILL GIVE THEM SPACE THAT IS LITERALLY PART OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
WE, WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO STILL DISCUSS ON ALL OF THAT AND, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS ON IT.
SO THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T COME UP WITH AN IDEA BECAUSE BEFORE I START DOING ANY KIND OF MAJOR REMODEL HERE AT CITY HALL, I'LL BRING IT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION SO Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO WALK THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR AND SEE WALLS BEING TORE DOWN AND Y'ALL HAVE TO GO, WHAT IS GOING ON? BUT MM-HMM
THAT'S HELPFUL THAT, I THINK I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT BEFORE TOO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SPACING IN CITY HALL AND THE FUTURE AND A NEW CITY HALL, UM, I'D STILL LIKE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF REMOTE WORKING AND SHIFTING SCHEDULE SO THAT WE HAVE FIVE DAYS OF OPERATION.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE THE WAYS THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR GETS AROUND SPACING ISSUES AND I THINK WE COULD STILL CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THAT.
UM, MY OTHER JUST THOUGHT IS, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S ANYTHING THAT OCCURRED ON THESE PURCHASES, UM, BUT ONE THING THAT CHARLES AND I, I ONCE TALKED TO, AND I THINK AS COUNCIL SHOULD OPERATE AS A WHOLE, I'M JUST BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AS WELL.
UH, WE CAN ALWAYS USE WHEN IT COMES TO OFFICE FURNITURE, THE STATE SURPLUS STORE DOWN IN AUSTIN, THEY, IT'S THE EXACT SAME DESKS THAT YOU SEE HERE THROUGHOUT THIS BUILDING AND IN THE TEXAS CAPITOL.
THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF USE, UH, A TABLE, UH, DESKS THAT YOU MAYBE SPEND FOUR OR FIVE, $600 ON IS FOR $20.
SO YOU CAN GET A SOLID WOODEN DESK.
I GOT ONE IN MY OFFICE AT HOME FOR $20.
SO MY ASK IS THAT MAYBE WE HAVE A PROTOCOL AS STAFF DEED NEW FURNITURE THAT YOU CHECK STATE SURPLUS FIRST.
'CAUSE THEY'VE GOT COMPUTER CHAIRS, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, COMPUTERS, TVS, EVERYTHING.
IT'S GOT A FUND FOR A NERD LIKE ME THAT LIKES TO SEE ALL THE STUFF.
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A CHAIR THAT CAME FROM THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.YOU CAN GET ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT COMES FROM DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
SO MY HOPE IS JUST IN THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS, WE CHECK THERE FIRST AND OBVIOUSLY IF THERE ISN'T, IT DOESN'T MEET THE NEED.
YOU DIDN'T FIND IT, YOU TRIED AND THEN YOU GO OUT AND BUY THE NEW ONE.
MATTER OF FACT, POLICE CHIEF AND, UH, WAS IT CHIEF FRANCO WAS WITH YOU? THEY WENT OVER THERE THE OTHER DAY LOOKING FOR STUFF.
SO YEAH, THAT IS, AND I'VE TALKED TO NICOLE.
I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
ANYTHING WE NEED, WE'RE GOING THERE FIRST BEFORE WE ORDER ANYTHING.
AND THEN ON THE IT SIDE, YEAH.
STICKER SHOCK ON THE 200 K, BUT YOU WARNED US BEFORE, WE'RE ABOUT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON TECHNOLOGY.
WE KNEW THAT, UM, JUST FROM SIGNING CHECKS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SIGNED I SEE ARE, UM, CYBERSECURITY LIKE SUBSCRIPTIONS.
SO HOW MUCH OF THAT 200,000 DO YOU THINK ARE THESE ONGOING SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING YEAR AFTER YEAR? AND DO WE HAVE MORE OF THOSE COMING? WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING WE'RE GONNA GET AWAY FROM A LOT OF THIS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ME AND STAN ARE WORKING ON NOW AND WORKING WITH OUR VENDORS TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THAT COST DOWN AND, AND SAVE IT.
'CAUSE ANYTHING I CAN KEEP IN-HOUSE, I WANT TO KEEP IN-HOUSE.
UM, BUT THERE'S SOME OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO USE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
OF COURSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH DIR TO DO OUR PURCHASING, WHICH SAVES US A TON OF MONEY.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THEIR CONTRACTS AND STUFF TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT VENDORS THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING.
THAT WOULD GIVE US A BETTER SERVICE OR SAME QUALITY OF SERVICE, BUT AT A CHEAPER RATE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS, BUT WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF BUDGET, I NEED SOME DATES WHERE ALL THE COUNCIL WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO HAVE A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY SESSION BUDGET WORKSHOP, SO WE COULD REALLY GET THE BUDGET HAMMERED OUT HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
MAYOR, BEFORE WE SWITCH TO THAT, CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? I JUST HAVE ONE MORE BEFORE I GIVE UP THE FLOOR BEFORE WE TRANSITION THOUGH.
UH, MY LAST ONE WAS THINK I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE DIR PART OF IT.
THE OTHER ONE WAS, WE DID PREVIOUSLY HAVE A EXPLORATION OF, UH, UTILIZING DER EVEN MORE AND GOING TO THE DIR CLOUD SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE ALL THIS HARDWARE, UH, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET A UPDATE ON WHERE THAT EXPLORATION WENT.
AND MAYA, MAYBE IT WASN'T A FIT FOR US, IT WASN'T A FIT FOR US.
AND, UH, WHILE WE WERE EXPLORING IT, THEY KEPT HAVING ISSUES WHERE THEY GOT THEIR SYSTEMS CRASHED AND THEY GOT COMPROMISED.
SO I'M KIND OF GLAD I DIDN'T GO THAT ROUTE, BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS.
MR. BENFIELD, SORRY I DIDN'T SPEAK UP EARLIER.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN AGENDA ITEM, NOT A WORK SESSION ITEM.
SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA COME BACK TO US.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING IN AT THIS POINT.
UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN A GREAT DISCUSSION.
UM, I PARTICULARLY LIKE, UH, MR. PRINCE'S COMMENTS.
I I, I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH MANY OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE UP HERE.
I WANT TO START BY PREFACING MY FIRST COMMENT AND THEN I'LL SAY MY SECOND COMMENT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT CONTRADICTIVE, WHICH IS, I REALLY LIKE WHAT STAFF HAS DONE.
I, I LIKE COMING INTO THE, THIS FACILITY AND SEEING THE NEW TVS AND I LIKE SEEING THE NEW PAINT AND I LIKE SEEING THE NEW FLOORS.
AND IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THE CHAIRS, THE CHAIRS WERE BROKEN AND THEY WERE LIKE, LIKE THIS ONE OVER HERE WAS DIGGING METAL INTO YOUR LEG.
AND, AND, AND I LIKE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND I THINK, I THINK PEOPLE LIKE COMING TO A BUILDING THAT IS CLEAN AND IT'S THE, THE ACS WORKING AND THERE'S GOOD TECHNOLOGY.
AND I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
I ALSO THINK ABOUT SUMMER'S, UM, STATEMENT ABOUT KEEPING TAXES LOW.
AND I THINK THERE'S A PERCEPTION, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS LEGIT, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT IF THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET THAT SAYS, WELL, WE HAVE $35,000 OVER HERE TO REPLACE THE FLOORS AND WE'VE GOT $10,000 OVER HERE TO PAINT THE ROOMS AND WE'VE GOT 200,000 OVER HERE TO DO TECHNOLOGY AND WE CAN DO ALL OF THAT WITHOUT CHANGING OUR BUDGET.
THE PERCEPTION THAT I HAVE RECEIVED FROM PEOPLE IS THAT OUR BUDGET'S NOT ACCURATE.
THAT IT'S NOT TIGHT THAT WE HAVE OVER BUDGETED.
ALMOST LIKE THERE'S LIKE THIS MENTALITY OF WE'VE GOTTA USE IT OR LOSE IT.
YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS BUDGET'S COMING UP AND WE'VE GOT SOME RESERVES AND SAVINGS AND WE BETTER PUT DOWN THOSE $35,000 FLOORS OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE UNDER BUDGETED NEXT YEAR.
AND SO, ON ONE HAND, I THINK MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE CITY HALL LOOK GREAT AND PEOPLE COMFORTABLE.
AND IF YOU'VE GOT, WHETHER HONESTLY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SHE WAS FOUR FOOT SIX A SIX A 16 BY, THAT'S TOO SMALL.
BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL THOUGH OF OUR BUDGETS AND, UH, BECAUSE WHAT'S GONNA, AND TO PRINCE'S COMMENT, WHAT I LIKED IS I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE IN THE BUDGET ALL OF THESE THINGS LISTED AS LINE ITEMS AS WE'RE
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GONNA PUT DOWN $35,000 FLOORS IN THE POLICE STATION AND WE'RE GONNA DO $200,000 UPGRADE TO THE IT AND WE'RE GONNA PAINT.I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT AND THEN SEE THOSE THINGS ACTUALLY SPENT THAN SAYING, HEY, WE JUST FOUND THE MONEY AND WE DID IT.
I WOULD'VE SUPPORTED IT EITHER WAY.
'CAUSE I LIKE IT, BUT, UH, I JUST DON'T LIKE THE BUDGET OF IT.
YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T LIKE THE BUDGET PART OF IT.
I WILL SAY THAT WE, WE HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD JOB OF BUDGETING IN THE PAST, BUT THAT, THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THIS YEAR.
SO, BUT MY COMMENTS SHOULD NOT STEER YOU AWAY FROM DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, CHARLES.
'CAUSE I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
OH, NO, I PLAN ON PUTTING STUFF IN THE BUDGET.
IT'S JUST THAT IN THIS YEAR'S OR THIS COMING YEAR'S BUDGET, I'LL HAVE $30,000 IN THERE TO REPLACE AN AIR CONDITIONER.
DO WE, ONE THING I WAS JUST WANTED TO COMMENT IS CHARLES DOESN'T, AND I HAVE WORKED ON, UM, DOING THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ASKED FOR ABOUT TAKING THE CIP OUT OF THE REGULAR OPERATING BUDGET AND PUTTING THEM INTO SEPARATE CIP.
WE DO HAVE THAT, UM, IN THE WORKS.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE EXHIBIT.
SO JUST AS A HEADS UP THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT IS COMING, UM, IT IS THE IN AND OUT OF THE, UM, BUDGET AS YOU'VE ASKED FOR IN THE PAST TO SHOW WHAT, WHERE IT'S COMING OUT OF AND THEN JUST THE LINE ITEM IT'S GOING BACK INTO.
AND IF I, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE BUDGET YEAR WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
YOU, YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON THAT TO, TO YES, SIR.
BASICALLY CLEAN UP THE BUDGET FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES IS THE WAY I WOULD VIEW IT.
SO YES, TO ME IS IT IS A GREAT THING WOULD DO THAT CURRENT BUDGET SO THAT THIS YEAR FOR THE 25, 26, IT WILL BE ALREADY CLEANED UP.
SO THAT GOING FORWARD, THE FINANCIALS THAT START TO GET POSTED ARE DONE SO THAT WHEN WE GET OUR CHART OF ACCOUNTS CHANGED OVER, WE'RE ALREADY SEAMLESS.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA PREFACE IS WE ARE GONNA BRING SOME LARGE BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO Y'ALL.
AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'VE OVERSPENT OR ASKING TO SPEND MORE MONEY, WE'RE JUST MOVING IT ALL AROUND AND WE'RE GONNA BE CLEANING UP THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IT, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE A SIGNIFICANT DEAL, BUT WE'LL PUT A WHOLE PRESENTATION TOGETHER TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING AND DO ALL OF THE MAPPING OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.
SO JUST WANT Y'ALL TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
OKAY, MR. BRUS? WELL, UM, MR. WEST HAD, WAS ASKING ABOUT, UH, DATES FOR US TO DO SOME WORK SHOPPING.
I DON'T KNOW KNOW IF YOU'RE READY TO GO THERE, MAYOR.
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I, I'M NOT TRYING, I'M IN A PLACE TO, AND WE ALREADY KNOW, WE USED SOME OF THE FRIDAYS FOR CHARTER MEETINGS.
WE HAVE THE UDC ON SOME OTHERS.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TODAY, BUT IF Y'ALL JUST BE LOOKING AT SOME DATES, UM, I HOPE TO GET MY BUDGET CALENDAR OUT THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
IF YOU CAN CLARIFY, ARE YOU THINKING ONE SESSION OR FIVE SESSIONS? I, I HOPE.
AND WHEN DO WE NEED TO BE DONE? I I'M HOPING WE CAN DO IT IN ONE SESSION.
I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO BE DONE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH.
BUT I HAVE TO HAVE A DRAFT BUDGET DONE BY AUGUST 1ST ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER.
SO THAT WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GET BUSY
SO YOU WOULD SUGGEST, UH, AT LEAST ONE SESSION IN JULY? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE, IS ONE SESSION IN JULY? YES.
I GUESS IF THAT'S, IF WE COULD GET ONE IN JUNE, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE, IF WE COULD GET ONE SOMEWHERE AROUND JULY 25TH, THAT'S WHEN WE GET OUR CERTIFIED VALUES.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO OUR TAX RATES AND ALL OF THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
IF Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LOGIN INFORMATION FOR M BUDGET, SO Y'ALL CAN GO AHEAD AND START LOOKING IN THERE, PLAYING AROUND.
AND I'LL GIVE, WELL, THE JULY 2ND MEETING, WE'LL DO A, UH, UH, A LITTLE DEMONSTRATION OF M BUDGET SO EVERYBODY KINDA UNDERSTANDS HOW IT WORKS AND EVERYTHING.
SO COUNSEL, GET SOME DATES INTO THE CITY MANAGER.
[X.5. Discussion regarding grant opportunities identified in the City grant strategy report, including Council information needs, potential project implications, and consideration of future grant resolutions required for grant application submittals.]
TO ITEM TEN FIVE DISCUSSION REGARDING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY GRANT STRATEGY REPORT, INCLUDING COUNCIL INFORMATION NEEDS, POTENTIAL PROJECT IMPLICATIONS, AND CONSIDERATION OF FUTURE GRANT RESOLUTIONS REQUIRED FOR GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTALS.IS THIS THE MAYOR PROAM TIME? THANK YOU.
AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT I PUT INTO THE POP INTO THE PACKET FOR THIS TOPIC.
BUT I GENERALLY WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ONE, ACTIVELY GOING AFTER GRANTS, AND TWO, THAT THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS FROM THESE GRANTS.
UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO MAKE THE INFORMATION COMING TO COUNSEL IN PREPARATION FOR RESOLUTIONS
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THAT WILL COME BEFORE US.YOU KNOW, THAT WE GIVE YES, THAT WE WANT TO GO, UH, PROCEED WITH ANY GIVEN GRANT THAT WE ARE, UH, LOOKING TO PURSUE, THAT WE HAVE POTENTIALLY A ONE PAGE GRANT IMPACT SUMMARY, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS INFORMATION THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
SO THIS IS REALLY, UH, AN EXPLORATION ABOUT WHAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO SEE ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE PAGE.
UM, I, UH, THINK COUNCILOR BENFIELD, I ACTUALLY ASKED HIM, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE COUNCILOR BENFIELD? AND HE WAS REALLY GOOD ABOUT GIVING, UH, ME FEEDBACK ON THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT TODAY.
I JUST WANTED TO STATE, UM, WITHOUT HAVING A A A ONE PAGE, THERE IS A TON OF INFORMATION THAT GOES INTO EACH OF THESE GRANTS, EVEN THE SMALL ONES.
AND SO AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THIS PACKET, WHAT THIS, UH, WHAT YOU WERE SEEING WAS THE REPORTS FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT WRITER, THE PROJECTS THAT SHE HAS GOING FORWARD.
THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR RESOLUTION THAT IS DUE IN SEPTEMBER, UH, UH, THAT SHOULD, UM, ERIC CINO AND, UH, CHARLES WEST, UH, REALLY WANT, FEEL LIKE IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE COUNSEL.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, NOT EXPECTING Y'ALL TO HAVE ANYTHING TODAY.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH IT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO, OR COMMENTS AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN A ONE PAGE SUMMARY REGARDING GRANTS.
I EXPECTED I WOULD HEAR SOMETHING FROM YOU, COUNCILLOR CHAVARRIA, THAT BEING, THAT THAT IS ALSO PART OF YOUR WORLD.
UM, AND THEN, UH, LASTLY THERE IS, UH, CHARLES AND ERIC AND, AND I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WE ARE BEGINNING TO HAVE ENOUGH ACTIVITY AROUND THE CITY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF COORDINATION.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOW ACTIVE WOULD YOU LIKE THE EDC HAS BEEN ACTIVE ON THESE, MORE OR LESS, UH, A SOUNDING BOARD, IF YOU WILL.
THEY, THEY CAN BE MORE ACTIVE IN SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANTS IN TERMS OF BEING THE PLACE, IF Y'ALL WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION COME FORWARD IN THIS PACKET.
SO THAT IS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IN THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, I'LL BRIEFLY SAY THAT, THAT IN, I'M LOVING ALL OF THIS FOR ONE, BUT ON, ON, THERE'S ONE PAGE BREAKDOWNS.
WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING THESE GRANTS FORWARD, SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS, UM, THAT I'VE BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF IS GRANT LENGTH REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
AND, UH, IF IT'S GONNA BE A PILOT PROGRAM, UM, ARE WE GONNA BE USED AS AN EXAMPLE FOR ONE? OR, YOU KNOW, IS THIS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA CONTEMPORARY OR IS IT GONNA BE A POTENTIALLY REOCCURRING GRANT? UM, AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, THE ROLL IN OF A GRANT COORDINATOR.
SO I KNOW WE HAVE A GRANT WRITER, BUT THE COORDINATOR POSITION IS, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR WHEN IT COMES TO REPORTING, UM, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WRITE THESE GRANTS, WE TEND TO ROLL THAT, UM, OVERHEAD AND BUDGET INTO THEM.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IF THESE ARE GOING, IF THESE GRANTS ARE BEING DIRECTED TO SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS, THAT THEY'RE THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS OR, YOU KNOW, KEY POINT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE, OR HAVE THE EXPLICIT TRAINING ON THIS BECAUSE WE COULD RUIN SO MANY CHANCES BY JUST SCREWING 'EM UP.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LOST IN GRANTS AND THAT THAT'LL PREVENT THE CITY FROM BASICALLY GETTING BLACKLISTED.
SO, I MEAN, UM, SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES ARE REALLY EASY TO GO AFTER.
AND, UH, ONCE YOU PROVE YOURSELF YEAR AFTER YEAR, I MEAN, I'VE DONE A FIVE, A FIVE YEAR GRANT OF 250,000 YEAR OVER END.
UH, BUT IT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM AND THEN YOU HAD TO SHOW, UM, BASICALLY HOW YOU CAN STAND ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, WITHOUT ADDITIONAL HELP, UH, MAKE IT COST EFFECTIVE, UM, IN THE LONG RUN.
AND, AND, UH, SO, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED.
BUT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE KEY THINGS I WOULD WANNA SEE IN THERE.
UM, AND I NOTICED THAT, UM, OUR GRANT WRITER HASN'T BEEN GOING AFTER SOME OF THE, WELL, I MEAN, SHE DID GO AFTER A COUPLE OF THE PILOT PROGRAMS. I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THEY GO AFTER NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
I'M REALLY EXCITED MR. PRINCE.
SO AS, AS A PERSON WHO AT ONE POINT OWNED AN ART SCHOOL BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS MARRIED TO AN ARTIST, UH, UH, I'LL, I'LL SAY THAT, THAT MY WIFE HAD DONE A FAIR AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON TRYING TO GET ACCESS TO MOSTLY FEDERAL GRANTS AROUND THE ARTS.
AND, AND THERE'S SOME PRETTY BIG MONEY OUT THERE.
UM, BUT WHAT SHE FOUND AT THE TIME WAS LAG VISTA WAS JUST A LITTLE TOO SMALL.
UH, I DON'T REMEMBER SCANNING THROUGH THIS, SEEING ANYTHING AROUND ARTS, BUT I THINK, UH, THERE, THERE COULD BE
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SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND, UH, LAG VISTA HAS AN AMAZING NUMBER OF ARTISTS, UH, THAT LIVE HERE.AND SO I, I THINK THAT I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST OR REQUEST THAT, THAT, THAT BE ON THE, THE RADAR SCREEN, UM, UH, TO, TO PURSUE SOME OF THESE RATHER LARGE ART GRANTS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO THE EXTENT WHERE IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE TO THINK ABOUT GETTING A GRANT LARGE ENOUGH TO BUY PROPERTY AND PUT A BUILDING DOWN.
UH, MY OWN THOUGHT, JUST LOOKING OVER AT CHIEF, I KNOW THERE'S A NUMBER OF GRANTS THAT YOU GUYS PURSUE.
IS THERE ANY HELP THAT Y'ALL NEED ON THIS SIDE OF THINGS FOR YOUR GRANTS? OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE IN-HOUSE YOU GUYS KIND OF COVER THOSE? UH, SO THERE ARE LOTS OF TOOLS AVAILABLE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
THEY REALLY DO A GOOD JOB, UH, AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL OF HELPING US.
AND SO, UH, THE GRANT, THE GROUP, THE FEW GRANTS THAT WE DO PURSUE, UH, THEY REACH OUT TO US.
SO I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, UH, ASSISTANCE NEEDED IN THAT AREA.
UM, I HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT CAN HELP US IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL GRANTS, BUT, UM, UH, IF, IF ANYONE'S AWARE OF SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, PURSUING, THEN I WOULD DEFINITELY BE EAGER TO HEAR THAT.
BUT, UH, THE, THE DOJ DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO HELP SMALL AGENCIES.
UM, AND, AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE DOES A GREAT JOB OF ANYTHING THAT'S AVAILABLE OF TRYING TO HELP US.
SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE OKAY, BUT IF, IF YOU KNOW OF SOMETHING THAT, THAT I'M UNAWARE OF, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PURSUE IT.
THANK YOU MEMBER TOM? UH, I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK AROUND TO COUNSELOR CHAVARRIA.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS, ACTUALLY OUR GRANT WRITER, UH, RIGHT NOW, THE GRANTS THAT, UM, WE'RE RECEIVING, SHE HAS THE CAPACITY TO HELP AND SHE IS RIGHT NOW MANAGING THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OKAY.
UM, THE OTHER IS, IS THAT WE DO HAVE A AI COORDINATION TOOL, UM, THAT IS ALREADY BUILT THAT, UH, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, IF, YOU KNOW, UH, BASICALLY THEY CAN JUST DO A REAL QUICK FORM AND SAY THAT THEY'VE GOT A GRANT THING GOING ON AND IT SPITS OUT A REPORT FOR COUNCIL AND OUR CITY MANAGER.
SO AT, AT THE, UM, AT LEAST AT THAT LEVEL, WE ARE AT LEAST DEPLOYING AND MAKING USE OF SOME VERY, UH, STRATEGICALLY SOME RESOURCES THAT REALLY KEEP THE COST DOWN RIGHT NOW.
BUT YES, A GRANT COORDINATOR ONCE WE GET ROCKET AND ROLLING IS ON MY RADAR SCREEN.
[X.6. Discussion regarding the Rules of Procedure and agenda preparation/formatting practices.]
TO THE LAST WORK SESSION ITEM ITEM SIX, DISCUSSION REGARDING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND AGENDA PREPARATION AND FORMATTING PRACTICES.UH, MR. WEST, I'LL JUST PUT THAT IN THERE.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, UM, STAFF IS GETTING A LITTLE OVERWHELMED WITH THE WAY OUR MEETINGS AND ALL ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING, AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR Y'ALL AND STAFF AND THE PUBLIC, IS THAT WE CAN GET A CONSENSUS.
THAT FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH IS GONNA BE A WORKSHOP ORDINANCES NEED TIME TO BE REVIEWED BY STAFF AND LEGAL COUNSEL PRIOR TO ADOPTION, JUST SO WE CAN KEEP SOME OF THE CONFLICTS OUT OF THEM AND THINGS.
SO AS, AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY PUT, UH, UH, STATED EARLIER IS MAY WANNA LOOK AT GIVING US ABOUT A MONTH TO TWO MONTHS ON SOME ORDINANCES, UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S GONNA BE TIMES WHERE THERE'S EMERGENCY ORDINANCES OR EMERGENCIES COME UP AND SOMETHING HAVE TO GO ON THERE.
BUT IF IT'S NOT A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION, LET'S DON'T JUST BE SO REACTIVE AND MOVING SO FAST THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING MISTAKES AND HAVING TO COME BACK AND FIX THINGS.
I I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CONSISTENCY THERE.
I WANT IT TO WHERE WHEN Y'ALL GET A PACKET, YEAH, YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET, UM, SEVERAL HUNDRED PAGES, MAYBE EVEN A THOUSAND PAGE PACKETS, BUT IT'S, YOU HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT PACKET.
I WANT TO SEE IT TO WHERE WE'VE GOT A POLICY OR JUST A CONSENSUS THAT PACKETS WILL BE READY TO GO PUBLISHED TO THE CITY COUNCIL 10 DAYS PRIOR TO A COUNCIL MEETING THAT GIVES Y'ALL 10 DAYS TO ASK QUESTIONS AND STUFF.
AND THEN FOR THE PUBLIC, WE CAN EITHER PUBLISH IT AT 10 DAYS OR WE CAN PUBLISH IT AT FIVE DAYS.
WE, WE CAN PUBLISH THE PACKETS AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO GIVE THE CITIZENS TIME TO LOOK AT IT AND THINGS OF THAT.
I MEAN, I JUST STUCK THIS ON THERE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT AS A QUESTION.
I MEAN, WHEN WE GET TO THE LAST ITEM OF THE AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WILL BE ON ALL AGENDAS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
SO WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THAT UP.
BUT I DO HAVE TO MAKE THE POINT REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. IT'S
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JUST THAT IT'S A REQUEST.WE DON'T NEED, UH, CAN'T GO INTO CONVERSATIONS OR ANYTHING.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'VE SEEN SOME COUNCILS GET OFF TRACK IS THEY START HAVING BIG CONVERSATIONS ON THAT.
SO I JUST PUT RULES OF PROCEDURE IN THERE BECAUSE THIS ALL KIND OF GOES BACK INTO IT.
AND THEN THE AGENDA FORMATTING, UM, I THINK WE KIND OF PLAYED WITH IT THIS NIGHT.
IS THAT SEEM TO WORK BETTER FOR Y'ALL OR NOT? MR. BENFIELD? UM, RESPECTFULLY, MR. UH, WEST, I THINK THAT WAS OVERSIMPLIFIED.
I THINK THIS WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA TO ADDRESS OTHER CONCERNS REGARDING OUR RULES AND PROCEDURE, SPECIFICALLY WHO CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, WHO CAN PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, THERE WAS ADVICE GIVEN, UM, BY MR. BULLOCK THAT, UH, AM I ALLOWED TO READ IT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT
COUNSEL, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU, IT, IT, I WON'T READ IT.
IT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT.
DO YOU, DO YOU MIND IF I READ IT? IT'S ONLY ONE SENTENCE.
IT'S NOT WHAT IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
IT'S REGARDING THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THIS AGENDA ITEM ON THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
BRAD GAVE LEGAL ADVICE ON PLACING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
IT JUST, I'LL LET YOU READ IT HERE.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SECOND, THE SECOND SENTENCE FROM THE LAST PARAGRAPH GIVEN I, YEAH, THAT'S NOT
IT JUST SAYS, GIVEN THAT THIS AUTHORITY HAS CALLED THE TOPIC OF CALLING SPECIAL MEETINGS INTO QUESTION, WHICH HAD NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY BEEN ADDRESSED, TO MY RECOLLECTION, I RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER AMENDING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS WHO ELSE BESIDES THE MAYOR HAS AUTHORITY TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.
THIS IS PURELY A POLICY DECISION, BUT IT IS WORTHY OF BEING ADDRESSED.
SO IT CAN AVOID THESE ISSUES MOVING FORWARD.
AND IN MY VIEW, SHOULD BE ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
SO THE VERY SOFT APPROACH THAT MR. WEST TOOK TODAY, WHICH IS FINE, I CAN RESPECT THE MILD TONE, DOES NOT ADDRESS THE CORE ISSUE, WHICH IS A SPECIAL MEETING WAS CALLED, THE MEETING WAS CANCELED, AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER OR NOT WHO HAS AND WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
AND I'LL, AND I'LL, AND I'LL JUST PREFACE IT LIKE THIS AND I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN APPRECIATE THIS.
I'M SURE THERE WAS A DAY THAT OUR TAX CODE WAS ONE PAGE LONG AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEBODY FIGURED OUT A LOOPHOLE AND THEY THOUGHT, HMM, THAT WASN'T A LOOPHOLE WE CONSIDERED.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE TAX CODE BECAME TWO PAGES LONG AND THEN 10 PAGES LONG, AND THEN A THOUSAND PAGES LONG.
AND NOW EVERYBODY KNOWS THE TAX CODE IS THIS TALL, RIGHT? WELL, JUST NOT TOO LONG AGO, OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE WAS ALMOST 30 PAGES LONG.
AND THE COMMENT WAS, IS WHY DO WE HAVE A RULES AND PROCEDURE DOCUMENT 30 PAGES LONG? AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE WE WENT AND WE MODIFIED IT AND WE BROUGHT IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO FIVE OR SIX PAGES.
AND IT'S SUPER SIMPLE NOW, RIGHT? AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY NICE.
SO THEN WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, OH, WE SHOULD HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, THE ANSWER IS NO, YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
SO THEN WE GO GET LEGAL ADVICE AND IT'S LIKE, EH, MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO ADD THAT INTO THE RULES AND PROCEDURE.
AND GUESS WHAT, OUR SEVEN PAGE DOCUMENT NOW BECAME EIGHT PAGES, AND OVER TIME IT BECOMES 30 PAGES.
AND IT REALLY IS BOILS DOWN TO IS WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE RULES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, WE OUGHT TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, THE ANSWER IS NO.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS MEETING WAS ABOUT.
THE MEETING WAS ABOUT IF WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE RIGHT OR AUTHORITY TO CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS AND WHO HAS THE RIGHT AND AUTHORITY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT MY OPINION IS, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT'S HERE, AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE.
I, I GUESS THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY BEFORE IS WE DID HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT THE CHARTER MEETING ON FRIDAY.
THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT YEAH, MR. PRINCE.
AND THAT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHILE THERE WERE, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE ANY CITIZENS WHO SHOWED UP IN THE ROOM TO BE LIVE AT THE MEETING.
IT IS, IT IS ONLINE FOR WATCHING.
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UM, SO I THINK WHEN WE PASSED RECENTLY PASSED THE SIMPLIFIED RULES OR PROCEDURE, IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CASES WE NEED TO CONSIDER, BUT I, I THINK IT ALSO WAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE CURRENT DOCUMENT WE HAVE WAS SO MESSY THAT IT WAS BETTER TO GET A CLEAN START.UH, AND SO I THINK THAT THE, THE, UH, PROCEDURE SPECIFICALLY TO THE ONE EXAMPLE OF MR. BENFIELD THAT HE RAISED THE PROCEDURE FOR CALLING SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS IS ONE OF PROBABLY FOUR OR 20, I DON'T KNOW, UH, ITEMS THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND AS I RECALL WHEN WE PASSED THAT, AND I LOSE TRACK OF TIME NOW, SIX WEEKS AGO, MAYBE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, WE SAID OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DISCUSS OTHER THINGS, UH, FOR THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
UM, AND, AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY ONE, BUT AS MAYOR SOM POINTS OUT, WE DID DISCUSS IN THE, UH, THE CHARTER, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE CHARTER AROUND SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS.
AND, AND I THINK, UH, MY MEMORY OF THE CONSENSUS, OR CERTAINLY WERE, WERE, WERE, I I, I FELT MY THOUGHT PROCESS ENDED WAS, UH, WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A PERFECTLY WORKABLE SITUATION WHERE THE MAYOR CAN CALL A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, THE CITY MANAGER CAN PUT ANY AGENDA ON A REGULAR MEETING, ANY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN AGREE TO PUT YOU SAID THAT LAST PART AGAIN.
I SAID THE CITY MANAGER CAN PUT, OKAY, SO THE CITY MANAGER.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE LEADING ME INTO CORRECTING MYSELF.
NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER, THAT'S NOT FACTUAL.
IF THE CITY MANAGER CANNOT PUT EXPLICITLY CANNOT SAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND I'M GONNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN DO STAFF UPDATES, AND DURING THE STAFF UPDATES, THE CITY MANAGER CAN BRING UP ANYTHING THAT HE OR SHE WANTS TO, RIGHT? SO EFFECTIVELY THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE ABILITY TO BRING ANY TOPIC THEY FEEL NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
UH, AND SO ANY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD SAY, HEY, WE THINK WE NEED A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A NEW DESIGN FOR THE CITY FLAG OR WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO.
CITY MANAGER HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
ONLY THE CITY MAN, ONLY THE MAYOR AT THIS POINT IN TIME HAS THE ABILITY TO, UH, TO CALL A SPECIAL CULT MEETING WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING COUNCIL BUY-IN ON THAT.
UH, AND, AND I THINK WHERE I FELT LIKE THE CONSENSUS WAS, WAS THAT'S A PERFECTLY WORKABLE PROCESS AND IT AIN'T BROKE.
SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO TO FIX IT AT THIS POINT.
BUT AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK TO, IF WE WANNA HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AS PART OF AN UPDATE TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, CERTAINLY WE CAN DO THAT.
UH, BUT I THOUGHT WHERE WE LEFT IT WAS, LET'S HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A HOLISTIC DISCUSSION IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE TWO, THREE, OR EIGHT THINGS THAT ANY OF US MAY PROPOSE TO ADD.
UM, SO IF THERE'S TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE MAYOR THAT'S READY TO HAVE A, A, UH, A, UH, RULES OF PROCEDURE DISCUSSION AND COME UP WITH SPECIFIC PROPOSALS FOR WHAT WE SHOULD AMEND, THEN LET'S DO IT.
WE CAN DO IT AT, UH, AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
SO THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL.
AND, UM, I AGREE, I KIND, IN FACT, I EXPECTED THAT WE WOULD BE COMING ACROSS THESE ITEMS BEING THAT WE DID DO A CLEAN SLATE AND UH, DID A SIMPLIFICATION.
UM, BUT PART OF THE THING THAT I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT, AND THIS GOES INTO THE PACKET WHERE CHARLES HAS GONE AHEAD AND PUT IN A, UH, AGENDA TEMPLATE OR BEST PRACTICE FORMAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MEETINGS, ET CETERA.
I CONTINUE TO SAY I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR POLICIES AND GUIDES AS WELL.
AND SO, UM, IN REGARD TO EXACTLY WHAT, UM, CHARLES HAD LISTED IN THE PACKET AND WHAT HE FIRST MENTIONED, I WOULD SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS KIND OF INFORMATION, NOT GOING DIRECTLY POTEN, YOU KNOW, INTO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE OR WHATEVER THAT WE TOOK OUT OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE TO MAKE IT SIMPLER, MAKE IT CLEANER.
UH, BUT THERE'S A GUIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS EASILY UPDATED BY STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, BASED ON, YOU COULD TAKE TRANSCRIPTS FROM COUNCIL MEETINGS AND, UH, AND CHECK THAT.
UM, IN REGARD TO, UM, PLACING THINGS WELL IN ADVANCE, I AGREE A LOT OF THE ITEMS, IN FACT, WHAT I DO IS I, I, I SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE ON AN UPCOMING
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AGENDA BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR AND, AND THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION IN TERMS OF THE TIMING OF IT.YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT TIME SENSITIVE.
I SPECIFICALLY PLACE THAT AT THE TOP, YOU KNOW, OR EVEN IN THE SUBJECT LINE WHEN I SUBMIT IT.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT AT SOME POINT, IF WE CAN FIND SOME KIND OF TECHNOLOGY THAT GIVES US A WAY TO TRACK SOME OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE COMING UP, THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF SEEING THE LOAD THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UM, SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST PLACING THAT OUT THERE AS A WISHLIST ITEM.
UH, AND, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S SEVERAL OF US POTENTIALLY SUBMITTING SOMETHING THAT IS THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING ALL OF THE SAME OR GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
UM, LASTLY, UH, I'LL JUST COME BACK TO, I APPRECIATED THE DIALOGUE ON THIS.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME, UM, TIMES WHERE, AND, AND, UH, I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, THE CITY MANAGER THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE POTENTIALLY THAT NEEDED ADDRESSING PRETTY QUICKLY.
AND, UH, UM, SO WE RAN UP AGAINST A WALL IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TRAVEL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UM, THE CITY, UH, MANAGER THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION.
UM, BUT I REALLY DO THINK EVEN IN THE CASE, I WILL SAY, UM, WHEN THE MAYOR WAS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, SEEMED TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH TO HIM, I APPRECIATED THAT
SO, UH, I'LL JUST, UH, STATE THAT I LIKE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
AND THEN POTENTIALLY REVISITING TO COUNCILOR BENEFITS' POINT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FINDING A WAY TO CODIFY THAT IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
YEAH, TO, TO BE CLEAR, I, I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE MODIFY OUR RULES AND PROCEDURE.
I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THE SIMPLIFICATION OF IT, AND I LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT ON IT.
WHAT I'M SIMPLY HIGHLIGHTING IS HOW WE GET TO 30 PAGE RULES AND PROCEDURE DOCUMENTS.
AND I'M WANTING TO AVOID THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND I THINK THE WAY THAT WE AVOID THAT IN THE FUTURE IS THAT WE LEARN TO PLAY NICE.
IF OUR CITY MANAGER SAYS WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE NEED TO MEET, WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY AND WE CONSIDER IT.
AND, UM, WHEN A, YOU KNOW, A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS IT'S JUST GRIEVOUSLY UNACCEPTABLE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, IT SHOULDN'T BE A DIFFICULT PROCESS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT LEADS TO THESE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS.
AND IF WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, ALL, AND I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT PLAYING NICE, I, I THINK COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS DOING VERY WELL,
AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS IF WE JUST, UM, REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A RULE FOR EVERYTHING IF WE JUST LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S OPINIONS.
AND SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANY CHANGE TONIGHT OTHER THAN JUST TO EXPLAIN WHY WE GET THESE LONG DOCUMENTS.
AND THEN TO KIND OF BRING IT BACK TO CHARLES REQUEST, DO WE STILL HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT THE FIRST MEETING OF EVERY MONTH WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO MAINTAIN IT AS A WORK SESSION MEETING, AND THEN THE SECOND MEETING WILL BE THE ONE WHERE WE DO ACTION? ARE WE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT STILL, MR. MR. BENFIELD? I, I'D PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE THE, I DON'T LIKE THE SETUP.
I, I THINK WE, WE SPEND OUR FIRST MEETING DOING EXACTLY THAT, AND THEN WE END UP DOING OUR SECOND MEETING DOING EVERYTHING ALL OVER AGAIN.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE SAME MEETING TWICE AND OUR MEETINGS AREN'T ANY SHORTER.
AND, UM, OUR MEETINGS ARE JUST AS LONG.
AND, UM, I THINK CONCEPTUALLY I DO LIKE THE IDEA, BUT IT'S PROVEN NOT TO BE EFFECTIVE.
ARGUABLY, THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR BEST MEETINGS.
I MEAN, YOU'VE RAN A TIGHT SHIP AND SUMMER RAN A TIGHT SHIP AND, YOU KNOW, WE RAN, WE WENT THROUGH THE AGENDAS QUICKLY AND THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND WE JUST, WE JUST SAILED THROUGH IT.
I THINK IT'S NOT A LACK OF HOW WE RUN, IT'S NOT A LACK OF THE STRUCTURE OF OUR MEETINGS.
IT'S HOW WE OPERATE AT THE MEETINGS.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MOST, UH, COHESIVE THING.
SO I PERSONALLY, I LIKED IT THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE.
I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF I WAS WILLING TO TRY IT OUT, AND I'M STILL WILLING TO GIVE IT A GO IF THAT'S THE WILL OF COUNSEL, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE IT.
UM, I THINK OVER THE COURSE OF THE FEW MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING THIS, UM, ACTUALLY FELT LIKE IT WORKED PRETTY WELL AT THE BEGINNING AND WE DRIFTED AWAY FROM IT.
AND I THINK, UH, TO YOUR POINT, MR. BENFIELD, I THINK, UH, IT MAY BE MORE ABOUT THE WAY WE AS COUNSEL ARE INTERACTING.
SO, UM, IF, IF WE CAN, IN MY MIND, IF WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, EXPRESSING OUR OPINIONS AND ASKING OUR QUESTIONS AND KIND OF POSSIBLY GETTING TO CONSENSUS ON A TOPIC, THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK IN FOR DECISION, THE CLOSER WE CAN GET IT TO SOMETHING THAT'S
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READY TO GO ON CONSENT WHEN WE MAKE A DECISION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.UH, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN HOUR'S DISCUSSION IN A WORK SESSION AND THEN AN HOUR'S DISCUSSION AGAIN TWO WEEKS LATER ON THE SAME TOPIC, THAT BECOMES INEFFECTIVE.
SO I THINK IT REALLY BECOMES, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE WE ASK GOOD QUESTIONS AND, AND THINK ABOUT IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AHEAD OF THE WORK SESSION SO THAT, THAT WHEN IT DOES COME BACK TO US, AND AGAIN, I'LL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IDEAL WOULD BE THE MORE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH A WORK SESSION THAT CAN COME BACK ON CONSENT, THE BETTER JOB WE'RE DOING IN, IN DEALING WITH THEM AND, AND HOPEFULLY MAKING STAFF'S LIFE A LITTLE, LITTLE EASIER AS WELL.
THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WAS GONNA MAKE ON THE, THE HELP IS, UM, MORE HEADS UP FROM STAFF WHEN WE'RE GONNA POST PUBLIC NOTICES IN THE NEWSPAPERS ABOUT PUBLIC, UM, HEARINGS FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES WE'VE BEEN PENCILED INTO A CORNER BY SOMETHING WAS ALREADY PUBLISHED AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT.
AND SO, UH, HAVING A LITTLE FORESIGHT ON THAT WILL HELP US ON THE SCHEDULING.
WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
I'VE ALREADY DIRECTED STAFF THAT THEY GOTTA GIMME A HEADS UP IF THEY'RE FROM PLANNING AND ZONING TO ANY OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
IF THEY'VE GOT STUFF THAT'S GOTTA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S GOTTA BE PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER, I NEED A HEADS UP SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING IT SCHEDULED AT THE RIGHT TIMES.
COUNCILLOR CHAVARRIA, I'M JUST GONNA REITERATE THAT I'M A BIG FAN OF THE CONSIDER DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION BECAUSE, UH, JUST THAT PHRASE ALONE COVERS A LOT.
UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE WORK SESSIONS AND THEN THEY STILL COME BACK FOR A SECOND DISCUSSION AGAIN WHEN WE'VE ALREADY TALKED IT TO DEATH IN THE FIRST SESSION, I'M A BIG FAN OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IF WE CAN GET THESE THINGS IRONED OUT ON A FIRST MEETING AND PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION BOARD'S BEEN GREAT.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE UTILIZING IT AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD.
UM, AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO BUCKLE DOWN AND TRY A LITTLE BIT HARDER ON THAT SO WE CAN KIND OF GET ON THE SAME PAGE ON, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO AGREE, BUT AT LEAST, AT LEAST HAVE FORMED OUR OWN OPINIONS ABOUT IT BEFORE WE GET HERE.
AND INSTEAD OF COMING HERE ACTING LIKE WE'RE IN THE DARK ABOUT THINGS AND, UH, PUSHING IT OFF ONTO ANOTHER, UH, TO ANOTHER MEETING, UM, OR FOR ANOTHER HOUR DISCUSSION WHEN, UH, THE HOMEWORK SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TO COMING IN.
MAYOR, PER TIME, AS I'M LISTENING, I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE AGENDAS AND WE HAD THE INFORMATION THREE DAYS BEFORE, AND DEPENDING ON LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT MAKES IT VERY, VERY HARD.
SO I WOULD, IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET INTO A CADENCE WHERE WE CAN GET THE ITEMS IN AND THERE'S 10 DAYS TO REVIEW THINGS, I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY DOABLE.
RIGHT? YOU HAVE TIME TO STUDY, YOU HAVE TIME TO GET SOMETHING ON THE, UH, COUNCIL DISCUSSION BOARD.
YOU HAVE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, SO BY THE TIME WE GET HERE, WE ARE, HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS THERE AND CAN GET THERE.
UM, I AM JUST, UH, UNTIL WE GET THERE THOUGH, UM, IF IT IS AN ESPECIALLY LARGER ITEMS WITH, UH, SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT COME BEFORE US, IF IT GETS ON THAT WEEK, BUT WE DON'T GET THE ITEMS THREE DAYS UNTIL THREE DAYS BEFORE THEN, UH, THAT THAT IS PART OF WHERE WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING INTO THIS CYCLE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT, MR. MANFIELD RESPECTFULLY.
I THINK THE ISSUE IS THE PACKET THEMSELVES.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDAS, THERE'S VERY FEW SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
I MEAN, HALF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE PUT PUT ON THE PACKET.
I COME INTO THE MEETING, HONESTLY HAVING NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE.
I MEAN, THERE'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FIVE OR SIX THINGS ON THE AGENDA TODAY WITH ZERO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THE, FOR ANYBODY TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN ADVANCE.
AND UNLESS I GO AND PLOW THROUGH 50 DIFFERENT THREADS ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
SO IF, IF YOU WANT THESE MEETINGS TO BE SHORTER, THEN DO A BETTER JOB AT PUTTING THE AGENDA TOGETHER, MEANING LOTS OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, LOT OF INFORMATION.
DON'T, DON'T SEND STUFF TO THE CITY SECRETARY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS OUT THERE AND, OH, I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP IN TWO OR THREE DAYS AND I'M GONNA AMEND IT.
AND THEN I SPEND ALL FRIDAY READING THE DOCUMENT.
AND THEN FIRST THING, MONDAY MORNING, I GET A PHONE, I GET A, UH, EMAIL FROM ROBIN SAYING, HEY, AMENDED PACKET.
I'M LIKE, HEY, WHY DID IT GET AMENDED AND ALL THIS, THIS, AND THIS GOT AMENDED.
WELL, GEEZ, I JUST SPENT 10 HOURS READING AN AGENDA THAT'S NO LONGER GOOD ANYMORE.
AND THEN ON TUESDAY, HOW MANY AMEND, HOW MANY AMENDMENTS WERE THERE TO THIS PACKET? FOUR, THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT BOOM BOOM, BOOMS.
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IT JUST SHOULDN'T BE LIKE THAT.YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT PACKET GETS POSTED, IT SHOULD BE A CLEAN, REVISED, LOTS OF DOCUMENTATION.
I LIKE THE THOUSAND PAGE DOCUMENTS.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE TO TO READ ALL A THOUSAND PAGES, BUT AT LEAST THE INFORMATION'S IN THERE IF I WANT TO READ IT.
AND THEN I DON'T HAVE TO ASK ALL MY QUESTIONS DURING THE MEETING.
YOU KNOW, DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE THE MEETING, DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE THE MEETING, PUT IT IN THE PACKET, LET ME READ IT, AND THEN I'LL COME PREPARED TO VOTE.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION FROM THE DAAS.
MS. CHAVARRIA, I'M GONNA REITERATE, I DO LIKE THE, UH, THOROUGH PACKETS AND I WILL AGREE WITH, UH, COUNSELOR NORMA, UM, NORMA OWEN, THAT, UM, MAYOR TO RATHER, UM, I NEED MORE THAN A DAY OR TWO NOTICE ON, ON NEW ADDED INFORMATION INTO THESE, THESE PACKETS.
UM, 'CAUSE I MEAN, UM, I'M A WORK, I'M STILL, I STILL WORK.
I DON'T HAVE TIME AND I HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS.
AND SO I LIKE TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION DONE THE WEEKEND BEFORE OR, OR THE MONDAY, MONDAY BEFORE.
UM, AND THEN IF I HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL AT LEAST HAVE TIME TO GET THOSE, UH, EMAILS SENT OUT AND MAYBE SOME CLARIFICATIONS DONE.
UM, BUT, BUT LAST MINUTE ITEMS AND, AND UPDATES, UH, TO THE PACKET ARE RARELY SOMETHING I CAN, UH, TACKLE.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M WITH, UH, WITH THE, THE CITY MANAGER ON, ON TRYING TO GET THESE DOCUMENTS IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED FOR MY ITEM TO BE TABLED THIS EVENING IS BECAUSE I HAD FAILED TO DO SO AND I FELT IT WAS A DISSERVICE AND A WASTE OF TIME TO EVEN REALLY BRING IT BACK UP WITHOUT VETTING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PROPERLY.
MAYOR PRO TOM, I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.
I THINK THERE WAS, UH, SOME CREDENCE ON THE WORKSHOP OR LISTENING AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION AND THAT I THINK THAT SPECIFICALLY WAS IN REGARD TO ORDINANCES.
UM, I WANNA SAY THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF WHAT, WE'VE GOT AN ORDINANCE COMING IN LOTS OF DISCUSSION.
SO QUESTIONS CAN BE DONE ALL TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING IN THE PACKET.
BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, AS A WORKSHOP, IT, IT'S HELPFUL TO ME THEN TO FURTHER HEAR THE DIALOGUE UP HERE AND STAFF IN THE ENTIRETY AND THEN GO BACK AND REVISIT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONSENSUS VOTE ON THE, ON THE SECOND ONE.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT AGAIN, I REALLY LIKE, UM, WHERE, UH, CHARLES IS GOING WITH HAVING THE INFORMATION.
TRY TO GET INTO THAT 10 DAY IN ADVANCE PACKET CONSENSUS.
I THINK THAT WOULD HELP AS WELL.
THANKS MR. ROSS, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED? YES.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR PRINCE, FOR THE RECORD CHANGES IN THE PACKET THAT COME FROM THE CITY SECRETARY ARE NOT DRIVEN BY THE CITY SECRETARY, RIGHT? SO SHE'S THE MESSENGER, NOT THE ONE THAT'S, UH, CAUSING THE CHANGES.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
MY, I APOLOGIZE IF I, IF IT SOUNDED LIKE I MEANT THAT.
YEAH, NO, I, I I DON'T THINK YOU MEANT THAT, BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S, UH, WHETHER IT'S CITY STAFF OR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE GETTING THINGS IN LATE, THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THE CHANGES.
THANK YOU, MR. I WILL MAKE ONE STATEMENT.
I HAVE MADE THE STATEMENT AND SENT A MEMO TO MY STAFF THAT I BELIEVE I COPIED Y'ALL ON IT.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS DIRECTED TO Y'ALL.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE COMPLETE ITEMS, IT DOES NOT GO ON THE AGENDA.
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I'M GONNA READ THE REST OF THE ITEMS IN TOGETHER.ITEM 11 ITEMS, COMMUNITY INTEREST ITEM 12, STAFF AND COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS A ROUTINE REPORTS FROM CITY STAFF B, ROUTINE REPORTS FROM CITY COUNCIL, BOARD COMMISSION COMMITTEE LIAISONS AND REQUEST C, REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL START WITH MR. BENFIELD.
MS. CHAVARRIA, ONLY UPDATE I HAVE IS FROM VISTA.
UM, EXCUSE ME, I I DIDN'T HAVE MY MIC ON.
UH, MY ONLY UPDATE IS FROM KEEP LAGO VISTA TO BEAUTIFUL.
UM, WE MET LAST WEEK AND UM, I, I KNOW THAT WE GET THE MINUTES AND PEOPLE CAN REVIEW THESE, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UM, JUST FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, UH, THERE WAS 152.9 HOURS DEDICATED BY COMMUNITY SERVICE MEMBERS FOR JUST THE ADOPTIVE SPOTS.
21.8 HOURS OF ADOPT A TREE, 196 HOURS FOR MEETINGS AND COMMUNITY COMMUNITY EVENTS, UH, FOR A TOTAL OF, UH, 300, I'M SORRY, FOR A LITTLE OVER 380.95 HOURS, UH, THAT THE CITY BENEFITED FROM.
THAT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FREE LABOR.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE BE COMMENDED.
UM, LUCKILY WE ONLY HAD 23 BAGS OF TRASH PICKED UP FROM THE MONTH OF MAY.
SO EVERYBODY APPARENTLY IS DOING THEIR JOB AND TRYING TO KEEP LOG OF THIS DE BEAUTIFUL AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
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AND, UM, THERE'S BEEN, UM, SOME WORK GOING AROUND ABOUT THE LONG-TERM, UM, COMMITTEE, UM, BUILDING COMMITTEE AND SOME SCULPTURES, UH, THAT ARE IN THE WORKS.AND, UM, WE'LL BE HAVING SOME RENDERINGS AND HOPEFULLY NEW ARTISTS, UH, MAKING SOME PRESENTATIONS VERY SOON.
AND THAT'S, UH, CURRENTLY ABOUT IT.
UM, SO, UH, REGARDING THE EDC, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT, UH, PIQUED MY INTEREST IS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID MEET WITH A, UH, POTENTIAL ENTITY THAT COULD HELP, UH, FURTHER BASICALLY PARTNERSHIPS AND EXTERNAL FUNDING FOR VERY TARGETED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T FULL HEARD THE FULL SCOPE OF THAT, BUT I HOPE THAT, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE CAN MAKE A REPORT AT THIS NEXT EDC MEETING.
JUST WANNA SAY APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS IN THAT REGARD.
UM, IN REGARD TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING ADVISORY SUBCOMMITTEE, I DID ASK COUNCILOR BENEFIELD TO GIVE ME, UH, UH, OR TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE A FEW COMMENTS ON THAT, BUT I TRULY APPRECIATED STAFF'S UM, INFORMATION.
THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF DATA, UM, MINING AND, AND PUTTING INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING ADVISORY SUBCOMMITTEE I PASS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD.
AND, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, WHICH WE HAVE 'EM ON THE THIRD, UH, TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT THREE O'CLOCK, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT PACE AND PRIORITY OF THOSE CIP PROJECTS.
AND SO I EXPECT THAT THAT'LL BE JUST IN TIME TO HELP US WITH SOME OF OUR BUDGET DECISIONS.
AND WITH THAT, COUNCILOR PRINCE WAS LIKE COUNCILOR BENFIELD.
I THINK THERE WERE SOME ITEMS THAT I THOUGHT WERE JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU IN TERMS OF, YEAH, AND BY ALL MEANS, ANYBODY PRESENT, FEEL FREE TO ADD TO BECAUSE, UH, MS. OWEN JUST ASKED ME RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY PREPARED THOUGHTS.
BUT ONE, ONE OF IT WAS ACTUALLY A VERY BUSY WEEK.
THIS, UH, WE ENDED UP MEETING AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
I BELIEVE MAYOR SHANES WAS THERE.
UH, NORMA OWEN WAS THERE, MYSELF WAS THERE, AND WE MET WITH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE COMPANY? IS IT AQUA AQUA? AQUA FLOW AQUA? THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE COMPANY THAT MANUFACTURES THE TYPE ONE FILTERS AND BASICALLY THEY CAME OUT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE A GOOD FIT FOR THEIR PRODUCT.
UM, THEY, THEY HAD NO CONCERNS.
THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS A PERFECT FIT.
THEY SHOWED US EXACTLY WHERE, HOW, WHY IT WOULD BE INSTALLED.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS WHETHER OR NOT THE FILTER WOULD HAVE TO BE INSTALLED AT POINT OF USE.
MEANING YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A FILTER AT PON TWO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FILTER AT CEDAR BREAKS.
THAT THE FEELING WAS THAT THERE COULD JUST BE ONE CENTRALIZED UNIT INSTALLED RIGHT AT PA 17, IT GET TREATED AND THEN GET DISPERSED THROUGHOUT OUR SYSTEM.
SO THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS SOME VERY GOOD FEEDBACK.
THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF ENGINEERING WOULD BE REQUIRED, WHAT KIND OF CONCRETE PAD WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UM, BUT I THINK HE DID A GREAT JOB CONFIRMING HOW MODULAR THESE SYSTEMS ARE AND THAT, UH, ONCE WE HAVE SOME BASIC ENGINEERING, THERE ARE FOUR LIFT HOIST SPOTS AND WE CAN DROP IT IN PLACE AND SEND OUR WATER RIGHT THROUGH IT.
AND THE PROCESS WAS PRETTY EASY.
SO I THINK WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT MEETING YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD? JUST THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE FIRST TCEQ PERMIT PART OF THAT RIGHT CHARLES? AND, UH, THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION AFTER THAT ABOUT HOW BEST TO GO FORWARD.
THE ATTORNEYS ARE WORKING ON FINALIZING IT.
I THINK ART SHOULD JUST ABOUT BE READY WITH OUR FIRST DRAFT.
TO, UH, FOR THE, THE, THOSE ARE THE EMAILS Y'ALL HAVE BEEN EXCHANGING.
YES, I THINK HE'S, I THINK HE'S ABOUT DONE.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE THERE IS TO, I HE KNOW PROBABLY EARLIER TODAY OR EARLIER THIS WEEK SAID BY THE END OF THE WEEK, HE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO US.
ALRIGHT, YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
ONE OF, UH, BRAD'S PARTNERS WORKING IS WORKING ON PREPARING A PACKET FOR THE TCEQ PERMIT.
UM, AND I, I, I HAVE PERSONALLY HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AS MUCH AS I THINK SHANE HAS.
SO I THINK, UH, HE'S MORE IN TOUCH WITH THAT.
UM, BUT BEYOND THAT MEETING THEN, UH, WE ENDED UP HAVING A MEETING HERE AT CITY HALL.
WE HAD THE ENTIRE SUBCOMMITTEE HERE.
UM, MYSELF WAS PRESENT, NORMA OWEN WAS PRESENT.
UH, WE ALSO HAD MAYOR SHANE SM AND CHARLES WEST AS, AS WELL AS SOME STAFF.
I THINK ERNESTO AND VICTOR VIC, VICTOR DID A GOOD JOB DOING A PRESENTATION ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR WASTEWATER AND WHERE WE'RE AT ON OUR WATER.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, VICTOR PRESENTED WAS
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HOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDUCE WATER, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF LEAK DETECTION AND THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND ONE SINGULAR LEAK THAT, UH, WAS ACCOUNTING FOR, WHAT WAS IT, 10% OF WATER USAGE.AND, YOU KNOW, JUST BY FIXING THAT ONE LEAK, WHICH WAS A MAJOR LEAK, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS THEY DUG INTO THE GROUND, THEY REALIZED THAT THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT WATER LEAK.
AND SO THESE TYPES OF MEASURES HAVE REDUCED OUR WATER OUTPUT WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO DO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES.
AND SO CONTINUING TO USE, UH, SONAR AND THESE NEW WATER METERS, UM, ONE CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WAS ABOUT OUR WATER USAGE.
UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THAT OUR PLANT IS RATED FOR WATER AT 4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, AND THAT'S WHAT TCQ HAS US PERMITTED FOR.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO DESIGN PHASE UNTIL WE GET TO 75% OF THAT, OR APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION GALLONS.
SO FROM TCE Q'S PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE GOOD.
THE ISSUE IS, IS THE LAKE LEVEL FLUCTUATES AND YOU HAVE THESE PUMPS DOWN INTO THE WATER, AND AS THE LAKE GOES DOWN, THESE PUMPS CANNOT PRODUCE TO OUR PLANT 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
IN FACT, THE BEST THAT WE CAN PROBABLY DO IS AROUND 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
OUR VERY, VERY BEST, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, NORMA, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, I THINK OUR VERY, VERY BEST DAY WAS AROUND 2.8 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.
AND THAT WAS THE PLANT KIND OF REDLINING.
AND SO THE CONCERN THERE, OR THE QUESTION THERE WAS IS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE UNDER FULL COMPLIANCE WITH TCEQ AT 4 MILLION GALLONS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MEETING THAT 3 MILLION THRESHOLD, THE REAL CONCERN IS, IS IF WE'RE USING ON A REGULAR BASIS, 2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY, BUT WE'RE NOT ONLY CAPABLE OF PRODUCING 2.8 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WE'RE ACTUALLY MUCH CLOSER TO THAT 75% THAN WE REALIZE.
AND SO THE QUESTION TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS, DO WE GO AHEAD AND SEND THAT OFF TO THE DESIGN PHASE? NOW KNOWING THAT WE'RE ALREADY AT OR PAST THAT 75% THRESHOLD, EVERYBODY IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE FELT LIKE YES, THAT WAS PROBABLY A WISE THING TO DO.
UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE A GREAT POINT OF DISCUSSION.
YEAH, I, UM, SO I WASN'T IN THIS MEETING YESTERDAY, BUT WE HAD ESSENTIALLY THE SAME DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY.
UH, AND, UM, MY TAKE FROM THAT PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WAS NOT THAT IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET INTO THE DESIGN PHASE OF WATER, BUT IN FACT WE NEED TO DO SOME IMMEDIATE THINGS TO GET OUR CURRENT SYSTEM TO GET CLOSER TO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CAPABLE OF DOING.
UH, AND, AND SO RATHER THAN SAYING THIS IS A REASON FOR US TO RUSH INTO GETTING A 6 MILLION GALLON OR 8 MILLION GALLON PER DAY CAPABILITY, THIS IS A REASON FOR US TO REALLY SHORE UP OUR ABILITY TO GET PRETTY CLOSE TO OUR CURRENT THEORETICAL OF 4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE BIG TAKEAWAY FOR ME WAS, AND, AND I THINK STAFF, THIS IS NOW FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS AGO WHEN, WHEN YOU AND I, MR. BENFIELD HAD A PRETTY DETAILED DISCUSSION WITH 'EM, STAFF HAD SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS OF THINGS THEY WANTED TO DO, WHICH WERE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS KIND OF THING, UH, IN ORDER TO, TO GET US, UH, CLOSER TO THAT.
AND THAT, THAT I THINK, BUYS US TWO OR THREE OR EVEN FOUR YEARS OF HEADROOM IN ORDER TO SPEND THE BIG MONEY ON THE WATER PLANT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE MODIFICATION OF MY TAKEAWAY FROM, AND, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU'VE HEARD SOME DIFFERENT DATA, UH, UH, AND, AND I WILL SAY THAT, THAT I, I TRY TO CONVEY THAT IN OUR LAST, UM, IPAS, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS TAKEAWAY.
IT'S GOOD TO SAY IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ANOTHER WHOLE TOPIC IS ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WHICH YOU, YOU MAY BE ABOUT TO GO THERE AS WELL, I DUNNO.
SO, UM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT TO EXPAND TO THE SIX OR 8 MILLION GALLONS, BUT REALLY THE, THE CONCERN IS OUR ABILITY TO PRODUCE EVEN JUST THE 4 MILLION GALLONS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.
AND, AND VICTOR CAME UP WITH SOME REALLY GREAT IDEAS ON HOW TO REDUCE WATER USAGE.
I WON'T GO IN THOSE TODAY 'CAUSE I THINK HE'S GONNA PREPARE A PRESENTATION LATER.
BUT IT WAS, UH, IT WAS FANTASTIC AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC, UH, ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS.
SO BY ALL MEANS, WELL THE ONLY THING IN ERNESTO OR VICTOR ARE NOT HERE, BUT, UH, MR. WEST, I, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER BIG TAKEAWAY FROM THAT MEETING THAT WE IPAS FOLKS HAD WITH THEM, UM, FOUR
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OR FIVE WEEKS AGO WAS THAT OUR MEASUREMENT SYSTEMS ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, WERE NOT TRUSTWORTHY.AND SO, WHILE WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THE WATER SIDE AND WE KNOW WE NEED TO MAKE SOME NEAR TERM IMPROVEMENTS IN ORDER TO REALLY SHORE UP THE 4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY CAPABILITY, WE ACTUALLY ARE NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE CONFLICTING DATA BASED ON WHAT WE MEASURE AS DISTRIBUTING EFFLUENT VERSUS WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE PLANT.
AND, AND SO WHAT I AM HOPING, UH, FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY IS, AND, AND THIS SHOULD BE PER OUR PROCESS, IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT AT IPA AND LET'S VE VET THAT THERE AND THEN BRING IT INTO ALL OF COUNCIL.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AROUND WHAT TO DO SO THAT WE GET DATA THAT WE REALLY TRUST MEASUREMENTS ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE SO WE CAN MAKE SOME INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHEN WE'VE GOTTA SPEND MONEY AND, AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
A AND ACTUALLY THAT'S A, THAT'S A EXCELLENT POINT, UM, THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THIS MEETING.
UM, DAVE STEWART ACTUALLY WAS VERY INVALUABLE ON SOME OF THE IN INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT HE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
AND I THINK THE WAY IT WAS LEFT IS, IS THEY TOOK THE INFORMATION FROM MR. STEWART, THEY WERE GONNA GO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND THEN REPORT BACK.
SO, UM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THERE'S SOME CONFLICTING DATA ON TWO DIFFERENT METERING DEVICES.
ONE IS A PADDLE, ONE IS A LASER, AND THEY'RE NOT GIVING THE SAME INFORMATION AND DEPENDING ON WHO'S RIGHT KIND OF CHANGES OUR OUTLOOK ON THINGS.
SO I'M GLAD WE KINDA GOT ALL THAT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG DISCUSSION FOR CIP BUDGET.
AND WE DO THESE ALONG THE WAY.
THEN HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS INFORM, UH, COUNCIL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE UPLOADED THE LAST TWO MEETINGS UP ON THE COUNCIL, UH, DISCUSSION BOARD IN TERMS OF THE NOTES.
I WILL GET THE NOTES DONE ON THIS CURRENT ONE.
AND ALSO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS IMPORTANT AS WE GET INTO BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.
UH, MY MAIN UPDATE FOR COMMITTEES IS THE AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD MET LAST FRIDAY.
UH, NOTHING PROGRESSED ON THE VMA, THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF KUDOS FOR MARK AT HOW GREAT OF A JOB THAT HE'S DOING UP AT THE AIRPORT.
UH, THEY SAID IT'S BEEN AN UNBELIEVABLE IMPROVEMENT.
UM, AND HE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN THERE AFTER HOURS HELPING ON THINGS.
UH, THE ONE QUESTION THAT DID COME UP, I ALREADY MENTIONED THIS TO YOU, CHARLES, BUT JUST FOR COUNCILS, UH, CONSIDERATION, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT WE'VE ALLOWED THE GAS TANKS TO GO EMPTY UP THERE AND IT TOOK SOME TIME TO FILL BACK UP BECAUSE OF SOME DISCUSSION AROUND OUR PROCUREMENT POLICIES AROUND THAT.
UH, CHARLES BELIEVES THAT, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE RECTIFIED THAT, SO WE SHOULDN'T, UM, HAVE THOSE TANKS GOING EMPTY ANYMORE.
AND THAT'LL SOLVE A BIG ISSUE FOR THE AIRPORT GUYS.
UH, SOME OTHER ITEMS THEY TALKED ABOUT IS, IS UM, UH, ADDING SOME MORE TIE DOWNS IMMEDIATELY THAT COULD PROVIDE A TINY LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE TO COME IN.
THEY SAID THAT THERE, UH, ARE PLACES THAT DO TIE DOWNS IN GRASS.
SO WE HAVE SOME GRASS AREAS WHERE YOU COULD TECHNICALLY DO SOME TIE DOWNS.
UH, THEY SAID THEY'D ALSO PROBABLY LIKE TO COME TO THE CITY AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY CONSIDER THE LOW COST OF PAVING SOME AREAS AND PUTTING TIE DOWNS IN THOSE AREAS, DOING NOTHING MORE THAN EXTENDING A PARKING LOT.
UM, AND THEN IN THEIR LONG RANGE PLANS, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH TEXT OUT A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE GRANT MONEY, BUT WAS ALSO TALKED ABOUT EVERY YEAR TEXT DOT DOES SORT OF EXPECT, UM, US TO GO TALK TO THEM ABOUT OUR FIVE YEAR AIRPORT, CIP.
AND SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE CITY PROPERTY THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE TURN INTO HANGERS AT SOME POINT AND PROVIDE PROFIT FOR THE CITY.
AND AGAIN, THEY SAID WE COULD EVEN MORE IMMEDIATELY PAVE THAT ENTIRE AREA, HAVE TIE DOWNS AND PREPARE THE FOUNDATION FOR SOME DATA BE HANGERS SO THAT IT WOULD BE AT LEAST PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION AND THEY'RE GONNA WORK ON A CIP IN THE COMING MONTHS.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, NOT TOO MANY.
I GUESS FROM THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SIDE, CHARLES, I'M GONNA SEND YOU MY COMMENTS ON, THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FEDERAL RULE BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW THAT'S GONNA CHANGE HOW STATES RECEIVE GRANT FUNDING ACROSS EVERY SINGLE AGENCY IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THE IDEA IS, UM, THEY SAY THE IDEA IS TO STREAMLINE AND IMPROVE IT AND SOMEWHAT SPEED IT UP.
UM, MY REVIEW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT POSSIBLY COULD POSITIVELY IMPACT CITIES AS WE GET OUR FUNDING FROM THE FEDS THROUGH THE STATE, BUT THERE MIGHT ALSO BE SOME SCARY THINGS IN THERE.
ONE OF THEM WAS, UM, THE APPOINTED OFFICIALS OF THOSE AGENCIES CAN TERMINATE THOSE GRANTS AT ANY TIME.
AND THERE ISN'T ENOUGH CLARIFICATION IN THAT, THAT WE COULD ALREADY BE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROJECT BROKE AROUND EXPENDED MONEY AND THEY COULD CANCEL IT IMMEDIATELY.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD, I INDIVIDUALLY WILL BE SUBMITTING COMMENTS, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS A CITY WHETHER WE WANNA SUBMIT COMMENTS AND POSSIBLY SUBMIT COMMENTS TO OUR STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE AND THAT THEY SEND THOSE ON AS WELL.
AND IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WITH THE LEGISLATURE STARTING IN JANUARY, THERE'S A NUMBER OF INTERIM MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON.
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THOSE INTERIM MEETINGS ARE GONNA BE PICKING UP IN THE COMING MONTHS.UH, WE MAY WANNA START TALKING ABOUT IN JULY OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AS WELL BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME TO YOU ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH STAFF AND CAN GET IN AND MEET THEM IF THERE ARE PRIORITIES THAT WE WANNA PUT FORWARD.
UH, MR. WEST, UM, I'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT BEGINNING THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY, YOUR PACKET IS GONNA BE AT LEAST 200 PAGES.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA START INCLUDING THE FINANCIAL, UH, STATEMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH.
IT'LL BE OUR EXPENDITURE IN REVENUE AND THAT THAT REPORT'S ABOUT 190 PAGES, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
THE LAST ONE I PRINTED OUT, IT WON'T BE 100% ACCURATE, BUT IT WILL BE PRETTY CLOSE, UH, BECAUSE NICOLE AND THEM WILL STILL BE CLEANING UP A FEW THINGS FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH.
BUT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S PRUDENT FOR Y'ALL TO BE GETTING THAT.
IT'LL ALSO BE BETTER ONCE WE GET FULLY INTEGRATED INTO, IN CODE 10 TO WHERE Y'ALL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME ACCESS TO SOME STUFF THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO NOW.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE ON STAFF WISE HAS BEEN COVERED IN ALL OF OUR OTHER TOPICS.
ALRIGHT, MR. PRINCE, I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTINE REPORTS MATERIAL, BUT YOU READ IN ALL THE WAY THROUGH FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I THINK, RIGHT? I DID.
UM, SO I, I WOULD JUST MAKE THIS SUGGESTION.
WE'VE GOT THREE BIG TOPICS THAT ARE VERY TIME CONSUMING THAT ARE ON OUR PLATE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THE BUDGET, THE CHARTER, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND I READ THEM IN THAT ORDER ON PURPOSE BECAUSE I THINK, AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THIS.
UH, WE'VE GOTTA DO A GREAT JOB ON THE BUDGET AND GET IT DONE ON TIME.
AND I THINK THAT'S OUR TOP PRIORITY.
WE HAVE A DEADLINE IN ORDER TO GET A CHARTER ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER.
AND WE NEED TO DO, IN MY VIEW, WE NEED TO DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT OR REALIZE WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IT ON THIS BALLOT.
SO BETTER TO DO IT RIGHT AND AND MISS THE DEADLINE THAN TO DO A HALF BAKED JOB AND PUT SOMETHING ON THE, ON THE BALLOT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE SECOND PRIORITY.
I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FLU UPDATES WHILE WE'VE BEEN WANTING IT FOREVER, AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC TO ME, IT'S THE THIRD TIER BELOW THOSE OTHER TWO.
AND SO WHETHER IT'S STAFF TIME OR IT'S COUNCIL TIME, 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE TOPICS, RIGHT? UH, WE, WE MAY JUST FRANKLY BE RUNNING OUTTA TIME.
AND SO IT MAY BE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FLUME, UM, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO, UH, NEEDS TO TAKE A BACK SEAT TO THE OTHER TWO SO THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB ON AT LEAST TWO OUTTA THE THREE.
I'D HATE FOR US TO DO A POOR JOB ON ALL THREE OF THESE.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
I, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO GET THE FLUME DONE.
I'D LOVE TO GET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DONE.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN SEEMS TO BE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, UH, PA AND STAFF ARE READY TO BRING THAT TO US.
UM, BUT IF THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GETS BOGGED DOWN, UH, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO DERAIL OUR BUDGET AND CHARTER PROCESS.
AND I'M, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL WOULD, UH, WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
AND I'LL GO BACK TO MS. CHAVARRIA BROUGHT UP THE DISCUSSION BOARD.
A WAY TO SPEED ALL THESE THINGS UP IS TO PARTICIPATE ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHARTER.
I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE CONVERSATIONS BEING DONE ON THERE SO WE CAN GET THAT GOING FASTER.
AND I THINK THE BUDGET COULD REALLY HAVE A LOT MORE CONVERSATIONS ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD AS WELL.
MARI TIME, SORRY, I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS BEING READ IN.
AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS REAL QUICK.
UM, THIS DOES NOT HAVE, AGAIN, GOING IN PRIORITY.
I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST STATED, COUNCILOR PRINCE, BUT A PART DEVELOPMENT FEE IS A, IS AN ITEM THAT I WANNA ADD ON THE LIST.
SO I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHY I DON'T PARTICIPATE ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD MUCH IS, NOT ONLY IS IT A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS TO WRITE OUT YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT VERY RARELY DO PEOPLE EVEN COMMENT ON YOUR THOUGHTS.
UM, AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, VERY FEW PEOPLE EVEN UNDERSTAND YOUR THOUGHTS.
YOU CAN ONLY PORTRAY SO MUCH IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE TIMES THAT I HAVE INDULGED IN THE DISCUSSION BOARD, UM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WILL JUST USE MY THOUGHTS IN PREPARATION IN ADVANCE TO COMBAT OR TRY TO DERAIL THOSE THOUGHTS.
IT GIVES PEOPLE, YOU, YOU, YOU PUT YOUR THOUGHTS OUT THERE ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD AND IT GIVES TWO WEEK NOTIFICATION TO PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT AGREE WITH YOU, AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AGAINST YOU.
AND SO, FULL DISCLOSURE, THAT'S WHY I DON'T PARTICIPATE IN IT.
I FIND IT'S BETTER TO KEEP MY THOUGHTS TO MYSELF, LISTEN TO YOUR THOUGHTS.
I KIND OF FORMULATE MY OPINIONS BASED ON THAT.
I LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND I TRY TO TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS
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WEIGHTED INTO CONSIDERATION WITHOUT SPENDING HOURS AND HOURS ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD WHEN I GENERALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE USED AGAINST ME.SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION BOARD IF IT WAS JUST THAT A DISCUSSION BOARD.
BUT, UH, I DON'T TYPICALLY, I'M GONNA SPEND SEVERAL HOURS WRITING A POST THAT IS GONNA GARNISH NO COMMENTS, NO THOUGHTS, NO REACTIONS, AND THEN SHOW UP TWO WEEKS LATER FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE USED AGAINST ME.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MAYOR TIM? SO I, I HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
COUNCILOR BENEFIELD, I WILL SAY, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE ALL UP HERE IS THAT WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS AND I ACTUALLY WELCOME BEING ABLE TO KIND OF GO, BANTER IS NOT THE RIGHT TERM, BUT GOING BACK AND FORTH, RIGHT? UH, TO HEAR ANOTHER PERSON'S OPINION, NOT SO MUCH, UH, IF IT CAME ACROSS IN TERMS OF ANYTHING WE WERE DOING UP HERE, AT LEAST IN MY POINT OF VIEW, YOU KNOW, UH, POTENTIALLY I HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING.
BUT IT'S REALLY GENUINELY CONSIDERING HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER SOMEONE ELSE, UH, A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT OR PERSPECTIVE.
SO ANYWAY, I, I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WHEN WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS, I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS PEOPLE MISUNDERSTAND THE WRITTEN WORD AND THEN BECAUSE THEY MISUNDERSTAND THE WRITTEN WORD, THEY FORMULATE OPINIONS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ACCURATE.
AND I DO PERSONALLY A MUCH BETTER JOB FORMULATING MY OPINIONS VOCALLY.
UH, WITH THAT, MY DESK IS CLEAR AND MAYOR, NEED YOU COME UP HERE AND HELP US, UH, END THIS MEETING.