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WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR JUNE 23RD. OF THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE EVERYONE HERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SUSIE MUMFORD AND MICHAEL MCDONALD. I'M JASON GRACE. I AM THE VICE CHAIR AND WE'LL GET IT STARTED. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS. THERE ARE NO CITIZENS HERE. SO THAT'S FINISHED. NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE COUNCIL
[STAFF AND COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS]
LIAISON. SO IF JESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOT A GREAT DEAL TO REPORT. THE CITY COUNCIL FOCUSED ON FINISHING UP THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR CHARTER REVISIONS. AND WE'LL BE MEETING THIS FRIDAY TO TO GO THROUGH THAT IN DETAIL. AND WE ARE ABOUT TO JUMP INTO. THE CITY COUNCIL IS INTO THE BUDGET DETAILS. STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR SOME TIME, AND I WAS JUST PROVIDED A LINK AT THE END OF TODAY TO A BUDGET WEBSITE WHICH I CAN'T WHICH WHICH I CAN'T MAKE WORK. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITH NICOLE AND, AND SEE WHAT THE ISSUE IS THERE. BUT BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, WE'RE JUST NOW FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, JUMPING INTO THAT AND WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH, YOU KNOW, A TOUGH BUDGET SESSION TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. AND WITH DECREASE IN REVENUES. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR FOR ME. IF UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK. SO KIND OF EXPECTED THAT WHAT WAS COMING.OKAY. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO CITY STAFF. GREG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON UP? ALL RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING ALL. I'M GOING TO START THIS WEEK BY KIND OF GIVING AN UPDATE ON NUMBERS YEAR TO DATE, FISCAL YEAR TO DATE. SO JUNE THIS MONTH TO DATE, THE FIRST HALF OF THIS MONTH HAS BEEN WET. THANK YOU LORD. NOW WE'RE IN THE HOT DRY MODE. IT BASICALLY STARTED. WE WERE FORTUNATE TO GET A SHOWER ON FRIDAY, WHICH WAS A GOOD HARD RAIN FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, GIVE OR TAKE. NOW WE'RE IN THE UPPER 9000 PLUS MODE AND THE HUMIDITY MAKES IT WORSE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE STILL UP 2% IN ROUNDS VERSUS LAST JUNE, AND WE'RE UP 4% IN GROSS REVENUE. A LOT OF THAT IS JUST BECAUSE THE COURSE CONDITION, YOU KNOW, GREENS FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT'S BEEN THAT WAY. BUT HAVING THE RAIN THAT HAS BEEN OUR NATURAL IRRIGATION. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS, POSITIVES FROM PEOPLE COMING OUT THAT HAVEN'T BEEN OUT IN A WHILE. AND IT'S, IT'S WORKED IN A GOOD WAY COMMUNICATION WISE BECAUSE IT'S EASY FOR ME. I CAN SAY, YEAH, THANK THE LORD FOR THE LAST THREE AND A HALF MONTHS. THIS IS REAL RAIN. ONCE IRRIGATION IS DONE, THIS IS HOW IT WILL LOOK ALL THE TIME. SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE INEXPENSIVE MARKETING TO SET THE TONE WITH THE WEATHER.
WE'LL PROBABLY BROWN OUT IN ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO. AND WHEN I SAY BROWN OUT GOLF TERM WISE, YOU THAT HAVE PLAYED THERE AND LIVE ON IT AND SEE IT WELL, THE FAIRWAYS AND RUSSELL START TURNING BROWNER AND THE PRETTY GREEN WILL GO AWAY, WHICH HAS BEEN THE NATURE FOR SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE YEARS. WITH THAT BEING SAID THOUGH, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST AN UPDATE ON WHAT YOU'LL SEE. A LOT OF POSITIVES FISCAL YEAR TO DATE. AGAIN, IT'S BEEN VERY WET FROM MARCH, APRIL, MAY, FIRST HALF OF JUNE, SO THREE AND A HALF MONTHS. BENEFICIAL FOR COURSE VISIBILITY AND DRAWING MORE PEOPLE. THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME WEEKENDS WHERE I WAS RAINED OUT RATHER THAN DOING MY TYPICAL 200 ROUNDS A DAY NOW ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. SO WHEN YOU LOSE 4 OR 500 ROUNDS ON YOUR BUSY DAYS, THAT HURTS. BUT THAT GOES TO SHOW YOU WITH AN UNUSUALLY SPRING WEATHER PATTERN WITH RAIN, WE'RE STILL DOING NOTHING BUT GOING UP. SO THAT'S A POSITIVE. WE ARE UP 11% IN ROUNDS YEAR TO DATE.
BASICALLY TRENDING TO ABOUT 35,000 ROUNDS, GIVE OR TAKE, DEPENDING ON MOTHER NATURE.
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WITH THAT BEING SAID, REMEMBER 17,000 ROUNDS THREE YEARS AGO. SO IT'LL BE MORE THAN DOUBLED AFTER THIS YEAR. IT'LL BE THE RIGHT EITHER RIGHT AT IT OR MORE THAN DOUBLED. WE'RE 23% UP YEAR TO DATE AND GROSS REVENUE. I HAD FORECASTED 5 TO 10. I WOULD FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT WE'RE 23. OUR NOI ARE BASICALLY OUR NET OPERATING INCOME THROUGH JUNE 17TH IS AT $49,903.AGAIN, 700, GIVE OR TAKE, DEPENDING ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. THREE YEARS AGO, 350 LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW THAT 499 IS TRENDING TOWARDS 75 OR 80, BUT THAT'S BASED ON AN AVERAGE MONTHLY OF WHAT I'VE DONE YEAR TO DATE. ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN. I MEAN, IF IF A MOWER BREAKS DOWN, THAT COULD BE TEN, 15 GRAND. SO YOU NEVER KNOW. BUT I COULD ALSO DO MORE ROUNDS OR LESS ROUNDS. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. THAT BEING SAID, THOUGH, SAVING THE CITY 600 GRAND PLUS IN THREE YEARS AND GETTING BETTER BY THE MONTH. PRETTY AMAZING. IRRIGATION TRENCHING. NOW WITH THE MAIN LINE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST STAGE THEY WERE PUTTING THE MAIN LINES OUT. YOU GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE. GEORGE AND I ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH THEIR WORK SO FAR. VERY ORGANIZED. AGAIN, THEY'VE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS AT AT MAJOR GOLF COURSES. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. STARTED TRENCHING ABOUT A WEEK AGO, GIVE OR TAKE, TO GET THE MAIN LINE IN. STARTED PUTTING SEEM IN ON NUMBER TWO TODAY IN THE MAIN LINE. ONCE THE MAIN LINE IS COMPLETELY DONE, THEN WE'LL START WORKING THE IRRIGATION OFF OF THAT INTO THE HOLE ITSELF. WE'VE BEEN LUCKY SO FAR THAT BECAUSE THE MAIN LINE GOES AROUND THE OUTSKIRTS, THE ROUGH PER SE OF THE HOLE, I DON'T HAVE TO REALLY CLOSE HOLES. ONCE THEY START WORKING OFF OF THAT, THAT'S WHEN I'LL START CLOSING THE HOLE AND NO ONE'S BEEN HIT. SO I GAVE THEM A CHOICE. I SAID I WOULD WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY BE MOST OF THE TIME I'D CLOSE IT, BUT THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE OKAY, GREG. WE'RE USED TO IT. SO JASON HIT IT STRAIGHT. THREE. ONE, TWO.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S GOING WELL. I MEAN THEY'RE THEY'RE TO THE PIPE LAYOUT. THEY'LL START TRENCHING ON. I MEAN WE STARTED TWO ONE. THERE'S A LOT OF STAGES IN TRENCHING. I MEAN FIRST THEY JUST CLEAR AT THE TOP AND THEN IT GOES DOWN TO THREE FEET GIVE OR TAKE AND ALL THIS ROCK. BUT IT'S GOING IT'S GOING WELL. THE ONLY HICCUP WE HAD WHICH WE WE'RE PROBABLY THE ONLY GOLF COURSE IN THE US THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN AS BUILT UNDER IRRIGATION, YOU KNOW, PART OF ITS AGE. AND THEN SO MANY CHANGES AT THE COURSE. BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO AS BUILT. SO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN IRRIGATION AS BUILT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE OLD WAYS WHEN YOU HELD UP A STICK AND IT POINTED A CERTAIN WAY SO YOU'D KNOW WHERE WATER WAS. SO THEY HIT A MAIN YESTERDAY MORNING EARLY. WHAT'S TODAY? TUESDAY. AND THAT CAUSED US. SO WE HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO WATER SINCE SUNDAY MORNING WHEN WE RAN OUR NORMAL CYCLE. BUT WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, 95 TO 100 OUT AND WENDY, YOU'RE DRYING QUICK. SO THERE'S LITTLE STRESS. IT HASN'T AFFECTED ANYTHING YET. TOMORROW IT WILL. I, I DROVE IT BEFORE I CAME THIS WAY TODAY. JUST I'M OUT THERE EVERY DAY. BUT TO LOOK THERE'S A FEW GREENS THAT ARE STRESSING AND THAT JUST MEANS DISCOLORATION. BUT HE'S PRESSURING. GEORGE CAME BACK UP AT 530 TODAY TO PRESSURE UP BECAUSE WE GOT THE PART, FIXED IT, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK TO REGULAR CYCLE IN THE MORNING.
BUT THOSE LITTLE THINGS HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE DOING IRRIGATION REPLACEMENT PROJECT ANYWHERE.
GOLF COURSE, BASEBALL FIELD, CITY STREET. I MEAN, IT HAPPENS. SO NO BIG DEAL. JUST IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN AND WE WERE OUT A WEEK, THEN THE GREENS WOULD ALL TURN BROWN. SO IT'S JUST DELICATE. OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEW THINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE COUNCILOR HALL SAID, HEAVY GETTING CLOSE TO HEAVY BUDGET STUFF. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A FEW MONTHS. EACH DEPARTMENT AND OUR OWN WAY AND USING THE SAME SOFTWARE PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO START DEPARTMENTAL MEETINGS AND GET IT FINE TUNED AND GO FROM THERE. STAFFING. I'M SHORT
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ONE AND MAINTENANCE. I'M SHORT TWO AND A HALF INSIDE, SO I'M DOING A LOT OF COUNTER WORK MORE THAN NORMAL. SO I'M, I'M GOING 360 ALL DAY. ALL THE STAFF IS, ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.I'VE GOT PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING TO AND IT'S GETTING BETTER RATHER THAN WORSE. AND THEN ONE OF MY REALLY GOOD PART TIMERS THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT, HE WAS GOING IN TO HAVE A STINT. WELL, HE HAD TO HAVE A TRIPLE BYPASS. SO IT WENT FROM A WEEK TO THREE MONTHS. BUT HE'S DOING GOOD AND EVERYTHING WORKED. THAT'S DENNIS. SO YEAH. SO BUT BUT EVERYTHING WORKED OUT WELL.
THANK YOU LORD. AND HE'S HE'S FEELING GOOD. HE EVEN HAD HIS HE CAME HOME ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND HE HAD HIS BETTER HALF DOING YARD WORK TODAY. SO. AND THEN SHE SAID WE'RE GOING TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO IT FROM HERE ON OUT SO YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN. THE CLUBHOUSE, WE'VE GOTTEN A FEW BIDS ON JUST DOING SOME UPGRADES IN BADLY NEEDED AREAS. NOTHING MAJOR, NOTHING TOO EXPENSIVE. REALLY FOCUSING ON THE BACK. I CALL IT THE CEMENT POND. KIND OF REMINDS ME OF BEVERLY HILLBILLIES WHEN I GREW UP WATCHING IT. TO PUT A PAVILION, SOMETHING TO LURE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, I'M STARTING TO GET CALLS ABOUT PEOPLE WANTING TO DO EVENTS 100 PEOPLE, 120, SO ON AND SO FORTH. WELL, WE CAN'T I THINK THE FIRE CODE IN THE BUNKER IS MAYBE 80, GIVE OR TAKE, IS WHAT DUSTIN MAYBE TOLD ME. AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE A GOLF TOURNAMENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE TIME AND SPEND MORE MONEY TO GO TO COE CLUB TO SCORE YOUR TOURNAMENT.
YOU DO IT AT THE GOLF COURSE. THAT'S THE WAY EVERY GOLF COURSE IS. SO THAT WOULD BE HUGE IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE. I'M WAITING. I HAD SOME DONE LIKE TWO YEARS AGO, BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED. SO I FOUND A LOCAL PERSON WHO'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOREVER. HIS PARENTS LIVE HERE, AND ONE OF THE NICER HOMES THAT OVERLOOK THE GOLF COURSE. AND. I'M WAITING ON THE FINAL PART OF IT, WHICH IS THE METAL PAVILION OUT BACK TO TO KIND OF THROW THAT IN TO MY BUDGET PROCESS. THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WHICH I'VE YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THE PROJECT MUNI REPORT FROM USGA. THAT'S PART OF MY BUDGET PROCESS TOO, BECAUSE I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AGAIN, WE WERE FERTILIZING AND CHEMICAL APPLICATIONS, FUNGICIDE, HERBICIDE. SO ON FOURTH TO THE GRAINS. WELL, NOW I'VE GOT TO DO IT TO THE FAIRWAYS AND TEES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A 6070 GRAND POP RATHER THAN 20. BUT MY THINKING IS TRUTHFULLY, THE FIRST YEAR AFTER IRRIGATION IS DONE TO FOCUS ON THE TEES. SO THAT'LL CUT IT DOWN. FAIRWAYS IS THE GREATEST SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU HAVE. AND THEN ONCE WE'RE IN THE BLACK AND MAKING IT, WELL, THAT'S WHEN I'LL KICK THE FAIRWAYS IN. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'VE BEEN HERE, DONE THAT FOR 40 YEARS AND I KNOW WHAT TO DO, RIGHT? TO GIVE THE BEST PRODUCT POSSIBLE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT SPENDING SOMETHING NOT TO MAKE IT GO BACKWARDS, BUT SAVING WHERE WE CAN AND MAKE IT MORE OF A TIER EFFECT. SO AS LONG AS THINGS ARE RAMPING UP IN REVENUE AND ROUNDS, EVERYTHING'S WORKING GOOD. IF THERE'S IF THERE'S A DOWNFALL OR A PRODUCT DOWNFALL OR SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THEN WE WE RELOOK IT. SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY. AND THEN AGAIN, MY PLAN, ONE MORE QUICK THING. THE YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY FROM THE GET GO, GIVE ME A YEAR TILL AFTER IRRIGATION AND THEN WE'LL BE IN THE BLACK. I SEE THE I'M NOT CALLING IT REBIRTH BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THAT WORD, BUT I'M GOING TO CALL IT RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST CALLING IT THE RE GRAND OPENING. WE'LL HIT OF LAGO VISTA GOLF COURSE. IT IT COULD BE FALL OF 27, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE. THAT GIVES GEORGE AND I ONE YEAR GIVES ME ONE YEAR TO KIND OF LOOK AT NUMBERS AND ROUNDS AND WHERE EVERYTHING'S GOING REVENUE. BUT THAT'S PRETTY QUICK. THAT'S REALLY THE END OF GOLF SEASON. IT'S NOT THE START.
SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, IF THINGS PLAYED OUT LIKE I WOULD LIKE THEM TO, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE SPRING OF 28 RIGHT AROUND. MASTERS MAY EVEN TIE IN THE MASTERS TOURNAMENT WITH THE GRAND OPENING OF LAGO VISTA. THAT'S THE BIGGEST TIME IN GOLF ALL YEAR LONG. ALWAYS HAS BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE. US OPEN JUST COMPLETED. WE'VE GOT ONE MAJOR LEFT WHICH WHICH I STILL CALL
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THE BRITISH OPEN. BUT I GUESS THE PROPER TERM IS THE OPEN. BUT MASTERS WOULD BE PERFECT, SO WE'LL JUST WATCH IT, KIND OF SEE WHAT WE LOOK LIKE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. AND THEN IF WE'RE READY, WE'LL LAUNCH IT OCTOBER, GIVE OR TAKE IN 27. IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GOLF SEASON STARTING AND WORK IT AROUND THE MASTERS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST FOR ALL, BUT I FULLY DO EXPECT AFTER THE NUMBERS I'M SEEING THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IF THE TREND CONTINUED AND WE FINISHED, I WOULD TAKE TOMORROW. BEING 50 GRAND IN THE RED, WE WERE 350 LAST YEAR. I WOULD TAKE 50 TOMORROW. THAT 50TH MAY BE 40 OR IT MAY BE 140, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BLOW 350 AWAY FROM WHAT I'M SEEING. SO NEXT YEAR I KIND OF HAVE IT AT, YOU KNOW, MY GOALS TO MAYBE COME IN BASED OFF NO MISHAPS COME IN BETWEEN 50 IN THE RED AND MAYBE CLOSE TO EVEN AM I BEING TAPED. AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID, IT'LL BE IN THE BLACK UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS, TRENDS CHANGE. SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE WORLD LIKE IT DID FOR GOLF BEING COVID IN 21. BUT THERE'S MORE ROUNDS BEING PLAYED IN GOLF YEAR BY YEAR SINCE 21, AND WE'RE FIVE YEARS PAST COVID. SO NUMBERS JUST KEEP GOING UP. THAT'S ENOUGH.SORRY, GOT A LITTLE LONG WINDED, BUT YOU KNOW ME. THAT'S IT. WE HAVE QUESTIONS. I GUESS. JUST A BRIEF ONE. YOU SAID ROUNDS WERE UP 11 IN REVENUE. 23 YEAH. WE KNOW WE DIDN'T TAKE PRICES UP.
SO NO, NO NO, NO, THAT'S PART OF MY PROFORMA FOR THE FUTURE. BUT IT'S IT'S CALLED YOU HAVE ANCILLARY INCOME. YOU HAVE EVERYTHING. MORE MEMBERSHIPS. IT ALL FLOWS DRIVING RANGE.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, I CAN BREAK IT DOWN ON LINE ITEMS, BUT NO, I MEAN, THE MAJOR ITEM IS ROUNDS, ROUNDS OF GOLF DRIVE REVENUE FOR ANY GOLF COURSE THERE IS. AND IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENTISTS, BUT IT'S LIKE ANY BUSINESS PLAN FOR ANY BUSINESS. YOU CAN TAKE A COURSE, MAKE IT ALL PRIVATE, YOU CAN TAKE A COURSE, MAKE IT SEMI-PRIVATE, WHICH ARE REALLY SINCE THE 90S HAS BEEN THE GOLF BUSINESS WAY TO DO IT. YOU CAN TAKE IMMUNITY, YOU CAN TAKE IT PUBLIC. WHAT DO I WANT TO DO? I'M GOING TO CHARGE X AND TO TO BREAK EVEN OR MAKE MONEY. I'VE GOT TO DO X NUMBER OF ROUNDS.
SO WHAT DO I HAVE TO SET MY MY PRICING AT. SO I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL STUFF THAT YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, JACK. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HITTING 41,000 ROUNDS IS BASED OFF SHOWING A GREEN FEE RATE OF, I THINK IT WAS $2 I DID ON THE WEEKDAYS AND FIVE ON THE WEEKENDS, AND THEN SHOWING A 10% INCREASE FOR ANNUAL PASSES OR MEMBERSHIPS, WHICH IF I PAY TWO GRAND NOW, I'M GOING TO PAY 2200. AND THAT'S BEING VERY, VERY FAIR. NOW, IF IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK EVEN, AND I'M SEEING THESE NUMBERS START GOING UP NEXT YEAR AND NEXT YEAR WE GO, SAY FROM 35 TO 30 8 OR 40. THEN MY THINKING MAY CHANGE BY A COUPLE DOLLARS. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S DICTATED BY THE MARKET, THE PRODUCT AND WHAT YOU HAVE. SO WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ROUNDS THAT THE GOLF COURSE COULD SUPPORT, ASSUMING EVERYTHING'S GOING GANGBUSTERS? WELL, ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION, MIKE, WHICH I COULD TALK ALL DAY ABOUT, BUT THAT'S DEPENDENT ON YOUR PRODUCT, YOUR ATMOSPHERE, YOUR SERVICE, CURB APPEAL, ALL THE ABOVE HOSPITALITY. WE DO LIKE OUR BEST CASE SCENARIO, 55, 60,000 ROUNDS. THAT'S WHAT DELAWARE SPRINGS IS DOING. BUT THAT'S DELAWARE SPRINGS OWNED BY THE CITY. BUT DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS, DIFFERENT PRODUCT. AGAIN, REMEMBER YOU DID 17, THREE YEARS AGO WHEN, YOU KNOW, IN A GOLF PROFESSIONAL'S MIND, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OPEN. SO YOU'VE MORE THAN THIS YEAR, WE'VE MORE THAN DOUBLED THAT. AND IN MY GOAL, YOU KNOW, IN MY TENURE WOULD BE, LIKE I SAID, TO GET IT OVER 40, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY I COULDN'T
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DO 45. AND IF IT'S DOING 45 PLUS, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN MAKING MAYBE 50 TO 150 GRAND A YEAR, WELL, IF YOU GET 45 PLUS AND IT'S PRICED AT X AND GOLF STAYS LIKE IT IS, THAT NUMBER COULD, YOU KNOW, GET TO 2 TO 3. AND IN THE OLD DAYS, BEFORE THE SECOND COMING OF GOLF SINCE TIGER WOODS POST COVID, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MUNICIPALITIES, IF THEY BROKE EVEN, THEY WERE HAPPY. NOW THEY'RE ALL STARTING TO MAKE MONEY. SO BUT I'M NEVER HAPPY IF I'M AT A GOLF COURSE THAT'S NOT MAKING MONEY. THAT'S PART OF MY BUSINESS PASSION, WHY I GOT IN THIS BUSINESS.LONG STORY, BUT I STILL HAVE HAIR. SO WITH REGARDS TO THE IRRIGATION. ARE THEY GOING TO TRENCH AND PUT IN AS MANY MAIN LINES AND AS MANY HOLES AS THEY CAN? YEAH, THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK ON THREE. IT RUNS AROUND THE ENTIRE GOLF COURSE. RIGHT. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT AHEAD OF TIME. AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT. THAT'S PART OF THE FIRST STEP. OKAY. YEAH. SO I MEAN, FOR SOME REASON, I HAD IT IN MY HEAD THAT ONE AND TWO WERE GOING TO GO AND THEN THREE AND FOUR. SO WE'RE LAYING IT ALL OUT THE TRENCH, THAT MAIN LINE. AND THEN THEY'LL, THEN THEY'LL GET TO PROCESS WHEN THEY HAVE TO GO TO. OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'LL BE SEVERAL PARTS TO THE PUZZLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. AND THEN ONCE THAT'S ALL DONE, THEN IT'S OKAY. LET'S GO. THIS IS THE MOST TEDIOUS PART. I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING TRENCHING FOR THAT MAIN LINE. IT'S IT'S HUGE. I'VE BEEN WATCHING IT EVERY DAY. HAS THE PUMP HOUSE STUFF ALL BEEN APPROVED AND BUDGETED? I, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THAT. I KNOW IT'S IN THE PROCESS AND IT HAS BEEN, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ALL BIDS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. IF YOU KNOW VICTOR'S, HE'S RAMRODDING THAT PROJECT. I KNOW HE'S ON TOP OF IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T HEARD BUT THE BUDGET FOR IT, COUNSELOR HALLS OR IS THE BUDGET FOR. IT IS DEFINITELY APPROVED. IT'S JUST A MATTER. I MEAN, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, THAT'S PART OF THE CO BOND, IRRIGATION PROJECT. SO BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD UP THE IRRIGATION PROJECT. NO. OKAY. NO, NO IT'S WE'RE IN FULL SPEED. YEAH. YEAH.
NO SPECIFICALLY THE PUMP HOUSE IS BECAUSE THAT'S GOT THAT'LL BE THAT'LL BE DONE BEFORE OR BY THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS DONE. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN STILL OBVIOUSLY WORK OFF THE THE ONE WE HAVE. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE ISOLATION VALVES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ONCE THEY COMPLETE A HOLE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU CRAIG. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. WE ALL GOT TO SEE A
[III.1. Approval of the May 26, 2026, Golf Course Advisory Committee Minutes.]
COPY OF THE MINUTES. I THINK WE WENT BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ADDS TO THAT OR HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM. MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SORRY I DIDN'T WRITE THESE MINUTES. SO. IT SAYS CONSIDERATION AND[III.2. Consideration and possible action regarding GCAC 2026 work plan activities.]
POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE GCAC 2026 WORK PLAN ACTIVITIES. I KNOW THAT I'M SITTING IN THIS CHAIR, BUT THAT WAS A MICHAEL THING THAT HE WROTE DOWN ON HERE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK AFTER THE LAST MEETING. I SENT EVERYBODY THE RIGHT PRESENTATION AND THAT LISTED THE TWO, I'LL CALL IT, CORE WORK TOPICS THAT WE SAID, AT LEAST OUR INTENT BACK THEN WAS THESE WOULD BE SORT OF LONG LASTING TOPICS. AND UNDER THAT YOU HAVE SUBTOPICS IF YOU WANT, RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO RECONSIDER THAT. TO ME, LAST YEAR, WE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TO COME DOWN TO THOSE TWO AND DEBATE IT, A LOT OF WORDSMITHING, ETC. SO I THINK THAT'S FINE. THE QUESTION IS, TO ME, IF THERE'S ANY ITEM PER SE, WE'D WANT TO DO NOW THAT WE THINK AND WE GO, GEEZ, WE REALLY CAN'T FIT IT UNDER ONE OF THOSE SUBHEADINGS BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY BROAD HEADINGS AT A HIGH LEVEL. IN MY[00:25:03]
MIND, IT WAS ANYTHING THAT SORT OF BUSINESS ORIENTED, AND THEN ANYTHING THAT WAS SORT OF COMMUNITY MARKETING ORIENTED WERE THOSE SORT OF TWO KEY PILLARS. YEAH, I KIND OF TOOK A LOOK. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN THAT WE HAVE. I LIKE THE WORD DURABLE, BUT IT'S A PRETTY BROAD UMBRELLA THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FIT IN A LOT OF THINGS. SO I JUST, JUST FOR FUN, I WENT, YOU KNOW, WE. TALKED TO THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS YEAR. AND THE QUESTION THAT WE ASKED THIS YEAR THAT WE DIDN'T ASK LAST YEAR OR WAS, WAS QUESTION NUMBER FOUR. AND THAT QUESTION WAS. WHAT IS THE ONE THING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE G INCLUDE IN THEIR WORK PLAN GOING FORWARD? LAST YEAR, WE KIND OF DANCED AROUND THAT TOPIC WITHOUT SPECIFICALLY ASKING THAT QUESTION. SO THIS YEAR WE ONLY TALKED TO THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE ASKED THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION AND WE GOT THREE REALLY GOOD ANSWERS. SO WHAT I DID THIS AFTERNOON, I WENT THROUGH THOSE ANSWERS JUST USING THIS AS A LIKE A SAMPLE TEST CASE APPROACH AND SAID, HOW DO THOSE THOSE ANSWERS MESH WITH OUR DURABLE WORK PLAN THAT WE, WE PUT IN PLACE LAST YEAR.AND I THINK MOST OF THEM MESH WELL. SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR WORK PLAN THAT OUR WORK PLAN WAS PRESENTED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR. AT LEAST THAT WAS THE DATE ON THE POWERPOINT, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. SO THIS IS JUNE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT. OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS SINCE WHEN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER WERE BASICALLY. MIGHT SOUND KIND OF HARSH, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT TOWARDS THAT WORK PLAN. SO I THINK JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS WE GOT FROM CITY COUNCIL, JUST THE NEW MEMBERS THAT WE GOT, GIVE US SOME SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN MESH WITH THE WORK PLAN AND ACTUALLY HELP US GET STARTED AND, AND START DOING THINGS. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS.
TELL US OR GIVE US SOME GOOD IDEAS FOR WHAT'S POSSIBLE BEYOND CURRENT EXPECTATIONS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT AN ADVISORY GROUP CAN DO, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE JOB OF THE GOLF COURSE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A VISION STATEMENT.
AND THAT TIES IN WITH WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE SUBITEMS OF THE MAIN PART OF OUR WORK PLAN IS TO DETERMINE THE ACTIONS NEEDED TO OPTIMIZE THE FINANCIAL POSITION OF THE GOLF COURSE SUBTOPIC. NUMBER ONE, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? SO THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A SUGGESTION THAT WE GOT FROM A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT TIES IN WITH OUR WORK PLAN.
THAT'S THAT'S FIRST. THE SUGGESTION THAT I PERSONALLY LIKE THE BEST, JUST IN MY OPINION, WAS DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN. SEE THIS PARTICULAR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FELT SO STRONGLY ABOUT IT THAT THAT PERSON SENT ME AN EMAIL, WHICH NUMBER ONE? THE NUMBER ONE ANSWER IN THAT QUESTION. WHAT'S THE ONE THING YOU WOULD LIKE CITY COUNCIL OR THE GCC TO WORK ON IS VERBATIM? IT'S A PRETTY LONG. THAT PERSON'S JUST SUGGESTED A TEN YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. I THINK THAT'S A BIT MUCH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S THAT GOOD IN BUSINESS OR, OR CITY OR PUBLIC SECTOR, BUT YOU KNOW, 3 TO 5 YEARS IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR ANY ORGANIZATION, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY HELD, PRIVATELY HELD OR PUBLIC SECTOR. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A 3 TO 5 YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT EXISTS FOR THE GOLF COURSE, EITHER AT THE CITY LEVEL, AT OUR LEVEL OR ANYBODY'S LEVEL. SO TO ME, IT'S JUST FLIES IN THE FACE OF REASON. HOW CAN ANY ORGANIZATION OPERATE, SPEND MONEY, MAKE MONEY WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A 3 TO 5 YEAR PLAN? IT JUST THAT DOES NOT COMPUTE. SO
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THAT SUGGESTION THAT THAT CITY COUNCIL PERSON MADE ALSO TIES IN TO WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? AND IT ALSO TIES IN WITH THE FINANCES TO BACK THAT PLAN UP THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PART OF, OF OUR WORK PLAN. SO THAT'S, THAT'S TWO THINGS RIGHT THERE. MENTIONING THE INCREASE IN ROUNDS AND REVENUE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE A GRADUAL PROCESS AND THAT COULD BE MATCHED UP WITH THE FINANCES TO SUPPORT SOME KIND OF 3 TO 5 YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. YOU KNOW, GREG'S ALREADY KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. MAYBE THE WORDS MORE TACTICAL THAN STRATEGIC. BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, HE'S HE'S LOOKING AHEAD. NONE OF THAT'S BEEN I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT EXISTS. I COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY CALL THE CITY MANAGER AND HE COULD. OH, YEAH. HERE, LET ME PULL THIS OUT OF MY DESK. I'VE BEEN WORKING. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT EXISTS. WE'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT TO ME. THAT'S WHAT IT. IF WE'RE IN AN ADVISORY ROLE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO, AND WE GET ALL THESE TALENTED PEOPLE IN THIS GROUP, THAT'S A NATURAL. AND IT TIES IN WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT WORK PLAN. ANOTHER SUGGESTION NUMBER THREE THAT I HIGHLIGHTED WAS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER WANTED TO SEE US DO QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL. THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED THAT THEY NEVER HEAR FROM GREG. THEY DON'T ALL THAT STUFF THAT WE KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW. THEY GET WHAT'S FILTERED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS NOT ATYPICAL OF, OF, OF A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO, YOU DON'T WANT INFORMATION COMING FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO CONTROL THE FLOW OF INFORMATION. BUT WE'RE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO WE, WE HAVE THAT, THAT FREEDOM. IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT PUTS A LITTLE PRESSURE ON US, WHICH IS NOT WHICH I THINK IS NEEDED TO SHOW MORE RESULTS MORE CONSISTENTLY ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. I THINK OUR PROBLEM HAS BEEN NOT SO MUCH US, BUT I THINK IT'S LEGITIMATE THAT THAT IRRIGATION PROJECT KIND OF KEPT US ON HOLD FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS. THERE'S NOT REALLY NOT REALLY A WHOLE LOT WE COULD DO. YOU COULD DREAM UP ALL THESE SCENARIOS, BUT WITHOUT THE IRRIGATION, IT'S JUST A WASTE OF TIME. NOW WE GOT THAT. WE GOT AN WE GOT PROJECTED END DATES FOR THAT. WE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S RELATIVELY FIRM TO START BUILDING AS PART OF OUR WORK PLAN, THE THE 3 TO 5 YEAR THING.AND WITH THAT, ALL THE STUFF THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR WORK PLAN, IT JUST TO ME, THEY, THEY MESHED TOGETHER REALLY WELL. I LIKE THE PART ABOUT TALKING TO CITY COUNCIL ONCE A QUARTER BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT GIVES US THE REPUTATION OF A COMMITTEE THAT GETTING THINGS DONE VERSUS, OH NO, WE GOT TO PRESENT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I THOUGHT WHAT LARRY DID, I THINK IT WAS LARRY SPEARHEADED. THAT WAS A WORK OF ART LAST YEAR, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT WE COULD DO OR DID DO LAST YEAR OVER THE COURSE OF A OF A YEAR. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYBODY'S FAULT. I THINK IT WAS JUST THE THE CARDS THAT WE WERE DEALT WITH, WITH THE IRRIGATION PROJECT GETTING DELAYED A YEAR OR TWO YEARS. BUT WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HIDE BEHIND THAT ANYMORE. NOW WE GOT TO GET STUFF DONE.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS FROM NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I, I THINK WE CAN INCORPORATE. AND I THINK IF WE ALL WENT THROUGH THAT OURSELVES INDEPENDENTLY, WE WE COULD THINK OF WAYS TO MESH SOME OF THESE SUGGESTIONS. THE OTHER ONE THAT I LIKED ABOUT THE GRAND REOPENING, GREG ALREADY MENTIONED, IT'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HE'S. THINK ABOUT THAT CAME FROM ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT I LIKE THE THE VERY FIRST ONE, I KNOW IT SOUNDS KIND OF PIE AND APPLE SKY, BUT WHAT KIND OF IDEAS DO WE HAVE BEYOND CURRENT EXPECTATIONS FOR THE GOLF COURSE? THAT'S PART OF YOUR VISION STATEMENT, WHICH IS WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE ANYWAY? ENOUGH, ENOUGH. I MEAN, YEAH, BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO MEET WITH OR IF THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO MEET WITH US, AND THEY TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS AND EVEN DO SOME FOLLOW UP PHONE CALLS AND, AND EMAILS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS. I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO AT LEAST DISCUSS THEIR INPUT. WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. WE CAN DO
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WHATEVER WE WANT, BUT I THINK IT'S IT'S WORTHWHILE TO HAVE A HEALTHY DISCUSSION ON SOME OF THEIR INPUT. SO THAT'S MY $0.02. WELL, I THINK IT WAS WORTH MORE THAN $0.02. AND PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS IN THE NOTES FOR OUR MINUTES AND ALL THAT BECAUSE I. YEAH, EXACTLY. FAMOUS LAST WORDS, RIGHT? WELL NO, Y'ALL KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY I STARTED COMING IN AND VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS AND STARTED COMING TO THIS THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S BEEN ONE OF MY MAIN QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THIS COMMITTEE? WHAT IS AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING? AND LIKE YOU SAID, I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A BAD WAY. IT'S JUST I SHOWED UP AND WE STARTED TALKING AND HAVING MEETINGS AND THIS AND THAT. AND THEN IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING? AND I LOVE THAT YOU'RE STARTING TO DIRECT IT TOWARDS THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR SENDING THAT. I, YOU KNOW, AND ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF STREAMLINED HERE'S, HERE'S THIS MONTH, THIS MONTH OR THIS QUARTER, THIS QUARTER, THIS QUARTER, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH QUARTER BY QUARTER. BECAUSE IF WE JUST LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, ONE YEAR DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD SOON. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HALF OF THIS YEAR IS ALREADY GONE. COMING UP. AND ME PERSONALLY, NOT AS A CHAIR OR ANYTHING. ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO, WHAT OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND YES.OH, WELL, I THINK AS PART OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS, WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL TO WORK WITH GREG AND, YOU KNOW, AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME BRAINSTORMING AND LIFT OFF OF THE IRRIGATION ISSUE, WHICH IS KIND OF BEEN A STOPPER AND, AND START TO PLAN THAT GOING FORWARD, SHORT TERM, MEDIUM AND LONGER TERM VISION. BUT I'D BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T TRAMPLE ON. YEAH. YOU REFLECTING A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO. SO FINANCE IS SORT OF MY BACKGROUND, RIGHT? SO THAT'S I STARTED TRYING TO BUILD SOME MODELS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR PREDECESSOR WAS VERY WORRIED. HE WAS LIKE, WELL, JACK, YOU KNOW, IF WE START SHOWING NUMBERS THAT HE HASN'T SEEN OR WE'RE PUTTING PROJECTIONS OUT THERE THAT HE THINKS ARE TOO AGGRESSIVE, HE SAID, I GOT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL. AND SO IT DID MAKE IT DIFFICULT. AND IF YOU THINK IT THROUGH, IT CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, RIGHT. I MEAN, TO BUILD A PLAN IT'S PRETTY EASY, RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A FAIR AMOUNT OF DATA NOW HISTORICALLY, YOU CAN JUST GO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHERE I THINK THE LIFTOFF HAPPENS AND I'LL MAKE UP NUMBERS. IF YOU'VE BEEN GROWING 10% A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS, WELL, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT TO 12 OR 13 AND YOU GO BUILD IT OUT. AND BUT THERE ARE POINTS IN IT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WILL SAY, WELL, GEEZ, GREG, YOU KNOW, HOW COME WE SAW THIS MODEL THAT CAME IN? CAN YOU GET TO THAT? AND SO WE GOT TO BE, I THINK, CAREFUL TO MIKE'S POINT, THAT IF HE FEELS LIKE WE'RE SETTING GOALS FOR HIM, THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO. AND TO ME, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DYNAMICS, BUT CLEARLY HE ALLOWS THE CITY MANAGER TO FILTER AND THE. WE DON'T HEAR FROM GREG A LOT. NO. YOUR PREDECESSORS PREDECESSOR WHEN I FIRST CAME, WHO CURRENTLY IS OUR MAYOR, HE HAD THAT SPOT AND HE USED TO SAY, I'M NOT GETTING ENOUGH DETAILED INFORMATION. GREG. I WANT TO SEE THIS EVERY MONTH. AND GREG WOULD BE I'LL TALK TO MY BOSS, YOU KNOW? SO I WAS LIKE, OH, OKAY, I CAN SEE SOME OF THAT. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO. I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON, MIKE. WE COULD GO BUILD A PLAN. THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE BEST INTERACT WITH GREG? SO HE GOES, YEP, THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING I WOULD SUPPORT. OTHERWISE, IF WE GET AT ODDS WITH THEM, THEN. AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I, WHAT I'M MEANING BY JUST DOWN TO THE VERY, VERY BASICS FOR ME IS WHAT IS OUR GOAL IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS TO START SETTING TO, TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH AS THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I MEAN, NOT PUTTING TOGETHER, HERE'S WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO WORK ON IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS AND THE NEXT 120 DAYS? THAT'S WHAT I DON'T I THOUGHT WE HAD DEFINED THAT TO SOME DEGREE IN, IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY EVENTUALLY GETTING A WORK PLAN TOGETHER, BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SPECIFIC AREAS THAT EACH ONE OF US WERE GOING TO HELP WORK ON. WE HAD, WE HAD GROUPS OF, OF TWO AND THREE
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THAT WERE GOING TO INVESTIGATE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WAS BEFORE ME. OH, THAT WAS BEFORE YOU JOINED? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THERE WERE YEAH, THAT WAS BEFORE I JOINED AND THAT AND THAT. BUT THAT GETS TO WHERE, WHERE I'M HEADED, WHICH IS, I THINK TURNING THE, THE FOCUS ON US, WE PROBABLY HAVE NOT BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT BEING DILIGENT IN FOLLOWING UP ON, ON WHAT WE SET OUT AS OUR ASSIGNMENTS AND THE SUBJECTS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TO BE WORKING ON. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM. IT'S ONLY BECAUSE I WANT TO HELP. YEAH. WELL, YEAH. AND, AND I'M GOING TO ACCOMPLISH AND SOMEWHERE IN THE NOTES WE'VE GOT, WELL, MIKE AND MIKE ARE GOING TO DO THIS AND ENGAGE IN JACK. WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. AND BUT WE NEVER FOLLOW UP ON THAT BASIS. I'M A I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN FOCUS AND, AND THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE FOCUS IS THAT YOU IDENTIFY WHAT YOUR TARGET IS AND THAT YOU STAY ACCOUNTABLE FOR WORKING AGAINST THAT TARGET. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE MONTH IN HERE. WELL, YOU KNOW, MIKE AND MIKE WERE GOING TO DO THIS. WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT SUBJECT? JACK AND GAGE, YOU WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT SUBJECT? AND WE JUST HAVEN'T DONE IT. WELL, IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE SUBJECTS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TARGETS. THESE SUBJECTS, THESE EXCUSE ME, THESE SUBJECTS SHOULD MATCH UP TO SOME KIND OF A TARGET OR SOME KIND OF STRATEGIC PLAN.AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT. IT DOES NOT EXIST. MATCHED UP TO THIS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE, STRATEGIC PLAN FOR A GOLF COURSE, WHATEVER WE'RE WORKING ON SHOULD BE TARGETED TOWARDS THAT. AND WE DO. IT DOES NOT EXIST, AND WE ARE NOT WORKING ON A QUOTE, 3 TO 5 STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE GOLF COURSE. I JUST THOUGHT IT PUT THEM BACK RIGHT. THIS WAS ONE VERSION AS WE WENT THROUGH. BUT THIS WAS GOLF COURSE VIABILITY, FINANCIAL VIABILITY, SUBTOPICS.
DEVELOP A LONG RANGE PLAN THE FINANCIALS, WHAT INVESTMENTS ARE NEEDED. CURRENT FINANCIALS, MONTHLY AND YEAR TO DATE. CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT REPORTING. DEVELOP A PLAN COMPARE TO OTHER LOCAL. SO ALL OF THAT IS THE ELEMENTS OF. WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE IS THE VERY FIRST QUESTION BEFORE YOU DO ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. AND WE'RE NOT WE HAVEN'T ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
WE DON'T HAVE A VISION FOR IT. WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR IT. IF YOU HAVE A VISION AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A TARGET AND THEN ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAT WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE CAN DO TOWARDS THAT TARGET, BUT WHAT'S THE TARGET? WE HAVE A TARGET. WE WERE GIVEN A TARGET BY COUNCIL. WE WERE NOT WE WERE NOT GIVEN A TARGET. WERE NOT GIVEN A TARGET BY FINISH. OKAY. COUNCIL TOLD US TO WORK SPECIFICALLY ON HOW TO IMPROVE REVENUE AT THE GOLF COURSE. THAT WAS THE DIRECTION FLOWING DOWN FROM COUNCIL TO US. AND THE ONLY MODIFICATION TO THAT THAT WE GOT WAS WHAT PAUL CAME BACK AND SAID THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER IMPROVING THE VALUE OF THE GOLF COURSE IN CONJUNCTION WITH IMPROVING REVENUE. SPECIFICALLY OUR DIRECTION AS A AS A COMMITTEE HAS TO GET APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND BLESSED BY COUNCIL. AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO COUNCIL WITH THE PRESENTATION LAST JULY AND SAID AFTER AFTER LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WE HAVE. THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE THE WORK PLAN IS THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.
AND COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY SAID, WE AGREE WITH THAT. THAT SHOULD BE YOUR TARGET. AND I GAVE YOU SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF HOW A STRATEGIC PLAN MESHES WITH THIS WORK PLAN, AND I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY ORGANIZATION ANYWHERE, PUBLIC SECTOR OR PRIVATE, THAT IS SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT ANY KIND OF A 3 TO 5 YEAR PLAN. SO WHAT I AM FAILING TO UNDERSTAND IN THIS CONVERSATION IS HOW DOES HAVING A STRATEGIC PLAN NOT MESH WITH OUR WORK PLAN? IF WE WANT TO MODIFY THE WORK PLAN AND ADD A STRATEGIC VISION, A SPECIFIC. WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? IT'S ALREADY IN YOUR PLAN. WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? THAT'S WHAT A STRATEGIC PLAN KIND OF DEFINES THAT. AND THEN YOU BUILD THE STEPS TO EXECUTE TOWARDS THAT PLAN. AND THOSE INCLUDE THE FINANCIAL STEPS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR WORK PLAN. BUT AT THIS POINT, WHAT I'M
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HEARING IS WE HAVE THIS WORK PLAN. WE HAS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I DON'T BELIEVE I THINK WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN WORK PLANS. WE ADVISE THEM ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND SECOND, YOUR THE PLAN THAT WE CAME UP WITH NEEDS TO BE GOING NEEDS TO BE APPLIED TO SOME TIME, TO 3 TO 5 YEAR TARGET, SOME SOME TYPE OF VISION STATEMENT. AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THAT STATEMENT, OPTIMIZING THE FINANCIAL POSITION OF THE LAGO VISTA GOLF COURSE, HOW DO WE OPTIMIZE THAT TO TO REACH THE STRATEGIC GOALS, THE STRATEGIC PLAN? SO WHAT ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT HERE? I DON'T GET IT. THE WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHERE YOU THINK THE WORK PLAN IS LACKING, HOW WE NEED TO MODIFY IT. WE HAVE WE HAVE SPECIFIC. I'M SUGGESTING WE INCORPORATE INPUT THAT WE GET FROM THE THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE INPUT THAT MESHES WITH OUR WORK PLAN. THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS WHAT THEY TOLD US DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. WE DON'T REALLY CARE. WE'RE ALREADY SET. WE DON'T NEED IT.WE DON'T NEED A PLAN. WE JUST NEED TO DO THESE THINGS. THAT IS A PLAN. THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN. WHAT DOES? OKAY, LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE FOR THE GOLF COURSE? WHAT IS THE PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH THAT STEP? LET ME ASK YOU VERY SPECIFICALLY, WHAT IS THE OUR PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ITEM? NUMBER ONE, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS OUR PLAN TO DO THAT? WAIT A MINUTE. WHOA WHOA, WHOA. WE'VE BEEN ON THIS PLAN FOR 11 MONTHS. WHAT WE WERE WHAT DOES. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS IDENTIFY WHAT THE TARGET SHOULD BE. WHEN WE ASK, WHEN WE ASK, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? IT WAS FOR COUNCIL TO TELL US. WE EXPECT THE GOLF COURSE TO BREAK EVEN. WE EXPECT THIS. WE EXPECT THAT. WHAT WHAT DO THEY WANT TO SEE SO THAT THEY CAN SAY THE GOLF COURSE OR THIS PARTICULAR CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE A TEN YEAR PLAN. SO WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? YEAR ONE? WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? YEAR TWO WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? YEAR THREE ON INTO YEAR TEN? HOW DO WE PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT REQUEST? IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU WERE ASKING BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS ON COUNCIL THAT WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THE LAST COUNCIL TOLD US TO WORK ON. DO YOU AGREE WITH IT OR DO WE NEED TO MODIFY IT? I'M ALL FOR THAT. I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE INCORPORATE WHAT THEY SAID INTO OUR EXISTING PLAN. OUR EXISTING PLAN SAYS WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? WE'RE 11 MONTHS IN TO OUR WORK PLAN. WE HAVE NOT DEFINED WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE. WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO TOOK THE TIME TO TELL US HOW WE MIGHT TRY AND DEFINE THAT, AND WE. RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT INTENTION IS TO IGNORE THAT ADVICE. OUR DIRECTION NEEDS TO COME FROM THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, NOT FROM INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND IT NEEDS TO COME. OKAY, THEN I'LL GO TO THE NEXT MEETING. I'LL BE A PRIVATE CITIZEN, WHICH IS ONE OF THE OTHER SUGGESTIONS ON HERE. AND I'LL ASK THE CITY COUNCIL IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A 3 TO 5 YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE GOLF COURSE, AND IF THEY WOULD LIKE US TO WORK ON IT, WE WE HAVE A LIAISON WHO'S HERE, WHO HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TWICE A MONTH. WELL, GO AHEAD AND ASK HIM TWICE A MONTH TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK THAT WE WANT TO GIVE TO COUNCIL, OR THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GIVE TO US TO ACT AS OUR INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN THE TWO. AND JESS, IF IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO COME BACK UP AND REPRESENT THE WORK PLAN AND UNDERSTAND IF THEY WANT TO MODIFY IT, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. WELL, LET ME SAY RESPONSIBLE FOR OWN WORK PLAN. I'M SORRY. AND LET ME JUST SAY THAT NOT HAVING BEEN HERE IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THAT AND, AND HOW THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSIONS AND HOW THAT CAME ABOUT ARE, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH I DO FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE GOLF COURSE. AND AND SO EARLIER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THAT WOULD BE FABULOUS IN TERMS OF HOW WELL THE GOLF COURSE IS DOING. I THINK THAT YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE RUNNING A BUSINESS OF ANY KIND AND NOT
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HAVING A THREE YEAR PLAN IN MIND OF WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHERE WE WANT TO BE AT THE END OF THREE YEARS, AND HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AGAIN, STRATEGIC PLANNING. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU OPERATE WITHOUT A STRATEGIC PLAN AND MOVE AND HAVE FORWARD PROGRESS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST KIND OF KEEPING ON KEEPING ON. THE GOLF COURSE HAS, IS, AS WAS STATED EARLIER, IT'S BEEN IN A STATE OF WAITING ON THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE WAS REALLY POSSIBLE. WELL, NOW WE CAN REALLY BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT, OKAY, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE GOLF COURSE. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF IT.IT'S GOING TO IS GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. SO WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO HAPPEN? AND WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT? I KNOW THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE THE GOLF COURSE BREAK EVEN MINIMUM. SO AND I THINK WE WOULD ALL BE HAPPY IF IT JUST BROKE EVEN. BUT I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT BETTER THAN THAT. AND OTHER GOLF COURSES ARE DOING BETTER THAN THAT. SO HOW DO WE WHAT ELEMENTS CONTRIBUTE TO IT DOING BETTER? AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BUNKER BAR IS OFFERING IN TERMS OF, OF, OF FOOD OR REFRESHMENTS OR. WHETHER THAT'S OTHER THINGS THAT THE GOLF COURSE COULD BE DOING, SHOULD BE DOING, WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE, WHETHER THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE ADVERTISING OF IT, PARTICULARLY ONCE A GOLF COURSE IS IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS UP AND THE COURSE IS LOOKING GOOD. THERE WAS SOME BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT A KIND OF A KICK OFF OF, OF RE PROMOTING THE GOLF COURSE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, SO ALL, ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO MOVE THE GOLF COURSE TO THE NEXT LEVEL ONCE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS DONE? WHAT, WHAT SHOULD BE WHAT, WHAT SHOULD BE THE PLANS LEADING UP TO THAT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAPPENS OVERNIGHT. SO WHETHER IT'S A MARKETING PLAN OR WHATEVER REQUIRES ADVANCED THINKING AND MAYBE, MAYBE YOU NEED SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE, I DON'T KNOW, AT THE LAST TIME THAT THERE WAS ANY KIND OF A SURVEY OF GOLFERS DONE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, ANYTHING, ANY, ANY ADDITIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE TO THE GOLF COURSE. SO, SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FROM, FROM MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, YEAH, A THREE YEAR PLAN. ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE CAN REALLY START THINKING ABOUT WHAT SHOULD THIS GOLF COURSE LOOK LIKE? THERE ARE THERE ARE MANY OTHER GOLF COURSES AROUND IN, IN TEXAS, IN THE COUNTRY THAT ARE SIMILAR PROBABLY TO, TO THIS ONE ENOUGH THAT WE CAN SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. WE, I SEEN THE, THE NUMBERS AND, YOU KNOW, FOR IN COMPARISON TO OTHER GOLF COURSES, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR ROUNDS OF GOLF ARE DOWN AND OUR REVENUES ARE, ARE NOT DOING AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHERS.
BUT ALL OF THAT IS AGAIN, SUBJECT TO CHANGE. AND WE JUST NEED TO SEE WHAT WHAT OTHER THINGS CAN BE DONE SHOULD BE DONE. AND IF AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF BUDGETING, BECAUSE. WE HAVE OUR CRITICS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I HEAR FROM THEM THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, GOLFERS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE GOLF COURSE AND DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL. IT HAS TO BE AN EVEN GREATER ASSET FOR THE CITY THAN IT IS NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS PART OF HERE'S WHERE WE ARE NOW, HERE'S WHAT WE CAN BE, AND HERE'S WHAT A GREAT ASSET THIS CAN BE FOR THE CITY AND A BENEFIT TO OUR CITIZENS AND THE SURROUNDING SURROUNDING AREA. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. I THINK IF, IF, IF I CAN JUST A COUPLE A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS I WANT US TO REMEMBER THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND THE GOLF COURSE. WHEN WE STARTED PUTTING THIS WORK PLAN TOGETHER. OKAY. THINK ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT GREG JUST BROUGHT UP. WE HAD JUST FINISHED A YEAR WHERE WE LOST 700 ZERO ZERO $0. WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A YEAR THAT WE WERE LOSING 350, ZERO
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ZERO $0. AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THAT IS WHAT EVERYBODY WAS FOCUSED ON AT THE TIME, WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL, SPECIFICALLY THROUGH YOUR PREDECESSOR THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED US TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE IMPROVE REVENUE, THAT THAT WAS ABSOLUTE DIRECTION THAT WE THAT WE WERE GIVEN. AND, AND IT WAS WITH THAT, THAT WE SAT DOWN AND SAID, OKAY, HOW DO WE APPROACH THAT? AND THAT IS HOW WE BUILT THE WORK PLAN THAT WE HAD. IT HAD SPECIFIC THINGS TO WORK ON. IT HAD ASSIGNMENTS THAT WERE EVEN MORE DETAILED THAN WHAT WE SHOWED AT COUNCIL, SO THAT WE COULD KEEP THE WHEELS TURNING AND WORK ON THE THINGS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON. THAT ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED, AND WE ALL HEARD GREG TALK ABOUT HOW IT HAS CHANGED. IF THE DIRECTION FROM THE NEW COUNCIL IS THAT THEY THINK WE SHOULD OPEN UP MORE AND START TO BECOME MORE FOCUSED ON THE GREATER FUTURE OF THE GOLF COURSE. OKAY. IN TERMS OF NOT NOT JUST GETTING OUR HEAD ABOVE WATER, BUT WHERE HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THINGS TO MAKE THE GOLF COURSE BETTER OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK THEM IF THEY WANT US TO AND SAY YES, AND THEN WE SIT DOWN AS A GROUP AND WE START TO MODIFY A NEW WORK PLAN. SO WE CAN'T WORK ON ANYTHING WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T BE WORKING ON ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T WANT US WORKING ON. AND, AND, AND IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC APPROVED DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, THAT SHOULD CERTAINLY BE OUR PRIORITY. IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AFTER WE TAKE CARE OF THAT BUSINESS, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. YES. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE THE IRRIGATION HAS BEEN THE IMPEDIMENT THUS FAR. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. AND I REMEMBER OUR PRIOR DISCUSSIONS WHERE WE SAID, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WANT TO START MARKETING THE COURSE. WELL, WE WANT TO WAIT UP TO AT SOME POINT AFTER WE GET THE IRRIGATION AND THE IMPROVEMENTS SUCH THAT WHEN WE START MARKETING THE COURSE, WE GOT A PRODUCT TO OFFER. SO I THINK WE STARTED DOWN THE LINE AND THERE'S PROBABLY NO REASON WE CAN'T EMBELLISH THAT STUFF. AND RIGHT, GIVEN THE ENVIRONMENT, I SORT OF AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. THAT SAID, AS LONG AS WE WORK WITH OUR GOLF PRO. SO, SO JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR MARKETING, FOR EXAMPLE, UNTIL SIX MONTHS AFTER THE IRRIGATION HAS HAD A CHANCE TO WORK OR WHATEVER, THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT TIME. BUT WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT A TIME THAT SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THAT STUFF IS GOING TO WORK. SO IF WE WANT TO SPEND OUR MARKETING DOLLARS AND WE WANT TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO A PRODUCT THAT THEY WANT TO COME TO THERE. SO. ITEMS LIKE THAT, THAT MARKETING PLAN, MAYBE WE CAN START TO DEVELOP IT AND OTHER THINGS AND PUT THEM IN PLACE AS A POTENTIAL PLAN, RIGHT? BUT WE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIX HERE. WE GOT THE GOLF PRO, WE GOT THE CITY COUNCIL. WE GOT OURSELVES HERE. KIND OF CAN BE A FRUSTRATING ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO, DO, DO RIGHT. AND THE MONEY'S TIGHT.WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE TIGHT. SO WE GOT TO KIND OF RECOGNIZE THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'RE FLUSH WITH CASH IN THE IN THE CITY, BUT THERE'S NO REASON WE COULDN'T START TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, GIVEN THE FACT THAT, WELL, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE IN THE FUTURE. AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT? IS IT OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT PART OF GOLF? WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TO TRY TO GET REVENUE IN PARTIES AND, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF, RIGHT? THAT I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH REVENUE THAT MIGHT DO OR NO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE WORK PLAN. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF THINGS IF WE KIND OF BUILD A BUILD A TIMELINE AND A AND A AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE THINK MIGHT
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BE POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE GOLF COURSE, I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T KIND OF BUILD THAT QUOTE UNQUOTE STRATEGIC PLAN, IF YOU WILL. YEAH. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CURRENT WORK PLAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO OR WON'T BE DONE THAT'S BEEN AGREED TO, AND IT'S GOING TO GET DONE. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE HAVEN'T. WE NEED TO SPEED UP OR HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BASICALLY IN 11 MONTHS. BUT NOW WE GOT REASON TO GET STARTED WITH THE IRRIGATION. ALL WE'RE SAYING IS INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE SUGGESTIONS THAT MESH WITH OUR CURRENT PLAN. SO HAVING A SET OF 3 TO 5 YEAR OBJECTIVES MESHES PERFECTLY WITH OUR EXISTING PLAN. BECAUSE ONE OF OUR MISSIONS IS THAT WE TOLD CITY COUNCIL IS WE'RE GOING TO DEFINE FOR THEM WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE. SO THAT'S PART OF IT. SUCCESS ISN'T JUST ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS. IT'S OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. WE MAY BE ADVISING CITY COUNCIL AT SOME POINT TO MAKE CERTAIN INVESTMENTS, TO REALIZE THE FULL FINANCIAL POTENTIAL OF THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR OUR OUR WORK ITEMS. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING SOMEONE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT FOR FINANCIAL POTENTIAL, YOU GOT TO BE PUTTING A TARGET OUT THERE 3 TO 5 YEARS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING THIS INVESTMENT. SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AND I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ANYTHING IN RESPONSE. NUMBER ONE, THAT THAT CITY COUNCIL TOOK THE TIME TO DO A LONG EMAIL ABOUT THAT DOESN'T MESH WITH OUR CURRENT WORK PLAN. THEN LET'S THEN LET'S JUST SIT DOWN AND AND IDENTIFY WHERE IT FOLDS INTO THE PLAN. SET ASSIGNMENTS ON. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHAT I GAVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES. I'M JUST ONE PERSON. IF WE'VE GOT FIVE TALENTED, HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE GOT OUR TALENTED PEOPLE COULD EACH DO THAT AND WE COULD COME BACK AND COME BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT. AND THEN WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK WHERE WE GO WRONG IS IF WE ASSIGN ONE PERSON TO GO DO THAT, AND THEN THE SIX OTHER PEOPLE SIT THERE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHO WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO. YEAH. TO THAT FACT REAL QUICK. YEAH, YEAH. WE NEED TO DO IT AS A GROUP. AND THE, AND THE ONLY, THE ONLY OTHER PIECE I'M ADDING TO THAT IS WHATEVER WE DECIDE WE WANT TO ADD OR MODIFY IN THIS PLAN THAT WE ASK JESS TO GO TO COUNCIL AND SAY, BY THE WAY, THE WORK PLAN THAT'S YOU APPROVED THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE GOLF COURSE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON ONE, TWO, THREE OTHER THINGS IN AS PART OF THAT EFFORT, THE PLAN'S ALREADY APPROVED. WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE STEPS OF THAT PLAN, AND WE'RE TAKING SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT PEOPLE GAVE US TO DO SOME OF THOSE STEPS. I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY OPEN ENDED PLAN. IF YOU STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT. WE DON'T NEED TO. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S A TRUE STATEMENT THAT EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE WORK ON HAS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL BEFOREHAND. I ADMIT THAT I'M NOT A PUBLIC SECTOR PERSON, BUT I WOULD FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS NOT ALLOWED TO WORK ON ANYTHING UNLESS THEY HAVE APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL. THE CITY COUNCIL HOLD A VOTE ON EACH LITTLE LINE ITEM WE WANT TO WORK ON. HOW DOES THAT WORK? THE THE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RESISTANCE IS TO IT, BECAUSE THIS IS TO WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE RESISTANCE IS TO JUST ADVISING COUNCIL THAT WE WANT TO MAKE THESE MODIFICATIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE WORK PLAN. I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S A DOWNSIDE. WELL, THAT COULD BE PART OF OUR QUARTERLY PRESENTATION. I GUESS WE WANT TO WORK ON THIS. WE WANT TO WORK ON THAT. AND ONCE YOU'VE TOLD SOMEBODY YOU'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING, YOU BETTER DAMN WELL PRODUCE THAT. THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US. THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US. I THINK IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT IF, IF YOU DID A THERE'S THREE NEW, AS YOU WERE POINTING OUT, THREE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS YEAR. AND THEY WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY PART OF. AWARE OF THE PLAN AND AND WHAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED TOWARD THAT THUS FAR. AND SO I, I THINK A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE PERFECT.[01:05:04]
AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REAFFIRM ANY CHANGES IN THAT. I CAN TELL YOU FROM AS FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS JUST BEEN FOCUSED ON BREAKING EVEN GETTING THE GOLF COURSE BREAK EVEN. BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT CAN BE DONE BEYOND THAT.AND, AND I, I WOULD LOVE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY TO GET EXCITED ABOUT OUR GOLF COURSE AND EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THAT. AND, AND SO PART OF THAT IS, IS CONVEYING THAT THAT VISION OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND, AND WHAT'S BEING DONE TOWARD ACCOMPLISHING THAT.
AND SO, SO AGAIN, ALL OF THAT'S POSITIVE. THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PLAN. WHAT'S POSSIBLE. WE ALREADY THE FIRST SUBTITLE. YEAH, I THINK IT'S IN THE PLAN. I MEAN, I WAS THERE WHEN LARRY PRESENT. YEAH, I WAS THERE WHEN LARRY PRESENTED IT. I MEAN THE COUNCIL SEES A LOT OF STUFF, RIGHT? SO WE GET IN. LARRY WENT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THEY WERE LIKE, THANKS, THIS LOOKS REALLY GOOD. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING. AND WE MOVED ON. IT WASN'T LIKE, BRING ME THROUGH LINE BY LINE, DETAIL AND STUFF. SO I THINK AS WE HAVE ALCOHOL AND, YOU KNOW, ADD ONS TO IT THAT STILL FALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA IF WE'RE GOING TO DO QUARTERLY, I MEAN, BEYOND QUARTERLY COMING UP, PROBABLY SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND PROBABLY SEPTEMBER, MIKE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE, DOES HE WANT TO DO HIS ANNUAL REPORT? I MEAN, QUARTERLY IS NICE TO HEAR, BUT THE REALITY OF PUTTING TOGETHER A SET OF CHARTS EVERY QUARTER, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE EASIEST THING FOR US ALL TO DO. AND IN THE END, NO, LARRY AND GAGE AND I SPENT A LOT OF HOURS ON THE DECK. YOU GOT BECAUSE LARRY JUST KEPT WANTING. NOW LET'S CHANGE THESE WORDS AND BRING IT DOWN. IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, EVERY QUARTER FEELS LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF WORK. YEAH. BUT EVEN IF WE DID SOMETHING ANNUALLY, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THE GOAL IS THE TARGET IS FIRST, TARGET IS BREAK EVEN. WELL, THEN WE'D SAY, WELL, BREAK EVEN WHEN, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO GET THERE? OUR PRO NEEDS TO GIVE US A LOT OF INSIGHT ON THAT. SO NOW AFTER WE'RE AT BREAK EVEN, WHAT'S THE NEXT TARGET? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, NEXT YEAR WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE INCREASE IN REVENUES OF X, WHATEVER THAT IS. WELL, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN KIND OF THING? YOU KNOW, IF LIKE AN ANNUAL INCREMENT AT LEAST SHOWS THAT WE'RE GOT A TARGET OUT THERE, I FEEL LIKE I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, MIKE. AND YOU KNOW, HAVING A 3 TO 5 YEAR PLAN WOULD BE GREAT. I LOVE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE A FIRST STEP WOULD BE ONE OF US OR A COUPLE OF US. HOWEVER IT IS HAVE A DISCUSSION AND SAY, GREG, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HELPING US BUILD A 3 TO 5 YEAR PLAN AND SEE THE REACTION? IF HE GOES, HEY, LET ME TELL YOU, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT I HAVE. BECAUSE SOME GUYS, THEY LIVE THAT WAY, RIGHT? HE HAS A LOT OF DATA OR HE PUSHES BACK. IF HE PUSHES BACK, THEN I THINK WE COULD DO ONE, BUT WE MAY DO UNTO OUR OWN ONE THING. ONE THING. WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF THAT, THAT JACK, EWAN AND MIKE MENTIONED.
AND IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE BAD TO HAVE COUNCIL FEEDBACK ON THIS, IS THAT WITH WITH, WITH ALL ALL OF THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION THAT THERE ARE, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS STEP ON SOMEONE ELSE'S TOES FOR WHAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, OR TRY TO COMMUNICATE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND SOMEONE ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY. THAT'S HOW THINGS REALLY GET CROSSWAYS. AND, AND SO I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT COUNCIL GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE EXPECT TO BE HEARING FROM THE GOLF COURSE COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S HOW IT THIS IS HOW IT DIFFERENTIATES FROM WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING FROM STAFF AND FROM THE AND FROM THE CITY MANAGER. AND WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO LAY THOSE OUT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE CONFLICTING OR OVERLAPPING LINES OF COMMUNICATION. JUST. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CITY MANAGER OR GREG SHOWS ON A
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MONTHLY BASIS TO COUNCIL? BECAUSE THE SENTENCE WHEN I'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION IN THE PAST, IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE THIS BUDGET THAT HAS 10,000 LINES IN IT. AND IF YOU GO DIG THROUGH AND TRY TO FIND THE GOLF COURSE RESULTS, MAYBE YOU CAN, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A ONE PAGER THAT SAYS, HERE'S THE GOLF COURSE THIS MONTH, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT IN THAT IT'S THE, IT'S, THAT'S THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN AS FAR AS IN MY BRIEF TENURE HERE FOR SIX MONTHS ON THE CITY COUNCIL, THERE HAVE THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY FOCUS ON THE GOLF COURSE. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY FOCUS ON. THE WHAT WHAT THE REVENUES ARE AND WHAT THEY WILL BE. AND I HAVE BEEN PROMOTING ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT THE GOLF COURSES IS MOVING TOWARD BREAK EVEN. THAT THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN IS AS EARLY AS THE FALL OF NEXT YEAR. BUT CERTAINLY THE SPRING OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR. AND SO ALL OF THAT'S GOOD NEWS. BUT THERE HAS THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY. LARGER PRESENTATION ON IT. WE ALL KNOW TO RUN A BUSINESS, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT THAT HAVE TO BE GO INTO THAT PLANNING, INCLUDING REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT IN TERMS OF, OF IMPROVING AND REPLACING THINGS THAT JUST WEAR OUT OVER, OVER TIME IN TERMS OF IMPROVING THINGS. YOU LOOK AT YOUR COMPETITORS AND YOU SAY, WELL, OKAY, THIS GOLF COURSE IS DOING THIS KIND OF A THING. THAT GOLF COURSE DOING THAT KIND OF A THING WHICH ATTRACTS VISITORS OR, OR ENHANCES THE, THE GOLF EXPERIENCE. AND SO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BUILD THAT IN AND WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS. AND, AND, AND WHEN DO WE THINK THAT MIGHT START, YOU KNOW, MIGHT PAY FOR ITSELF TO DO THAT? HOW CAN WE DO THAT IN SUCH A WAY THAT, THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT INCREASING ANY LOSSES, BUT ADDING INCREASING OUR POTENTIAL FOR, FOR INCREASED REVENUE. SO ANYWAY, THERE'S. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT. AND, AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT BEEN HEARING ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE BUDGET. AND, AND I THINK FROM A STANDPOINT OF TRYING TO GET MORE REVENUES IN IT, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. WE GET THIS GOLF COURSE IN DECENT SHAPE. IT'LL SELL ITSELF BECAUSE THE GOLF COMMUNITY WILL SPREAD THE WORD LIKE WILDFIRE. YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN TRAVELING AROUND AND PLAYING GOLF COURSES ALL OVER THE PLACE. IF THE PLACE WAS CRAPPY, YOU KNOW, I NEVER WENT BACK. AND I TOLD EVERYBODY I KNEW WHY I DIDN'T GO BACK THERE. AND ON THE REVERSE SIDE, IF WE START, WE GET THE IRRIGATION IN AND GREG STARTS LOOKING AT THE TEE BOXES AND THE CART PATHS AND ALL THE STUFF THAT DIRECTLY ON THE ON THE GOLF COURSE, I THINK THAT'S THE, THE REAL KEY TO DRIVING UP THE REVENUE BECAUSE WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER COURSES AROUND TOWN THAT'LL, THAT'LL THE, THE FOLKS WILL, THEY'LL JUST, THEY'LL, THEY'LL COME JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GOOD. THEY SAID MAN. AND, AND WE GOT THERE. THERE'S A THE, THE COURSE HAS SOME, YOU KNOW, VISTAS THAT ARE NICE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVES IF WE GET IT IN THE RIGHT SHAPE AND THAT I THINK THAT'S JOB ONE, WE GOT TO GET THE COURSE IN IN THE RIGHT SHAPE. AND, AND GREG'S PROBABLY GOT SOME SORT OF PLAN. IF WE STARTED TO PICK HIS BRAIN, HE'D SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO GET GET THE IRRIGATION GOING TO DO THIS. AND SO, BUT MY NEXT STEPS ARE, AND IF YOU TALK TO HIM, HE PROBABLY HAS THEM AND SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SPENT, WELL, THE CART PATHS ARE CRAPPY. WE'RE GOING TO FIX THEM. BUT EACH ONE OF HIS STEPS ARE, ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER THE, THE BATHROOMS OR, YOU KNOW, THE GREENS OR THE, OR THE BUNKERS OR WHATEVER HE'S GOT. I'M GUESSING HE'S GOT THAT IN HIS POCKET. AND EACH ONE OF THOSE STEPS INCREASES ROUNDS, INCREASES REVENUE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE FINANCIAL PICTURE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK ON. SO THAT'S GOT TO KIND OF RELATE TO TOO. SO IF WE DO THESE THINGS IN YEAR ONE, SEE THIS NUMBER AROUND, DO THESE THINGS IN YEAR TWO, WE SEE THIS NUMBER AROUND. IF WE DO THESE THINGS IN YEAR THREE, WE SEE THESE KIND OF ROUNDS. AND AS THE FINANCIAL PICTURE, IT INCREASES THE NUMBER OF NONRESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, IT TIES IN. YOU HAVE THE PLAN. AND THEN WE HAVE ALL THE MECHANICS ALREADY BUILT INTO OUR EXISTING WORK PLAN TO FLESH THAT OUT. SO I THINK I KIND OF HAVE A FEELING WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING IN DIFFERENT[01:15:04]
WAYS. AND, AND THERE'S MORE AGREEMENT IN THE ROOM THAN, THAN WHAT'S COME ACROSS TONIGHT.I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF AGREEMENT HERE. I THINK WE'RE ALL WELL, WE'RE ALL SITTING IN THESE CHAIRS FOR A REASON BECAUSE WE ALL CARE, INCLUDING JESSE, AND WE'RE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOAL SUCCESS OF THE GOLF COURSE. RIGHT. WE HAVE A PLAN. I WOULD PERSONALLY ASK THAT MAYBE WE START WORKING ON DEFINING OR IN THE NEXT MEETING, IF YOU GUYS AGREE, LET'S GO THROUGH IT AND DEFINE ONCE AGAIN WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT, AND THEN SET UP SOME KIND OF IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO HAPPEN IN ONE MEETING, BUT DO THAT.
SET UP AN ACCOUNTABILITY, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO EACH TIME WE COME TO THIS MEETING AND THEN ALSO FIND OUT HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE WHAT IS BROUGHT TO US ALREADY UNDER THIS PLAN. AND IF IT VARIES TOO FAR OUTSIDE, WE ASK JUST TO TO ASK THE COUNCIL, HEY, DO YOU MIND IF WE WORK ON THIS? I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO REMIND REMIND US WHAT WE WENT THROUGH AGAIN, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER TO YOUR POINT, JASON, IT WASN'T DONE AT ONCE. A MONTH, HOURLY MEETINGS OR EVEN TWO HOUR MEETINGS. WE HAD A NUMBER OF WORK SESSIONS THAT WE GOT TOGETHER AND, AND WORKED THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WE PUT TOGETHER AND THE CREATION OF THE WORK PLAN. SO, I MEAN, IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME REAL EFFORT. BUT AS YOU'RE SUGGESTING, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO GET OUR FEET BACK ON THE GROUND. YEAH. SO WHOEVER'S TAKING NOTES FOR THE MEETING CAN WE PUT DOWN IF EVERYBODY ELSE AGREES HERE BECAUSE I'M I AM ACTING CHAIR, BUT I LIKE EVERYBODY TO BE INCLUDED. I SAY NEXT WEEK WE GO THROUGH THIS AND DEFINE ROLES. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN DONE TO A POINT, BUT WE'VE HAD SOME TURNOVER ON THE ON THE BOARD. IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND EVERYBODY, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. WE COULD TAKE EACH ONE OF THESE SUBITEMS, RIGHT. THERE'S 2 OR 3 SUBITEMS. WE HAVE TWO TWO OVERALL GOALS AND EACH ONE HAS 2 OR 3 SUBITEMS. AND WE COULD ATTACK EACH ONE. YEAH. AND THEN AND THERE WAS THERE WAS ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION ON MORE DETAILED BELOW THOSE SUBITEMS ON HOW WE WERE GOING TO WORK ON IT. OKAY. AND WE SHOULD FOLLOW THROUGH ALL THE WAY DOWN. I AGREE. AND THEN MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING WE DO ACCOUNTABILITY. WHERE WAS THAT ADDITIONAL DETAIL? IT WAS IN AN OUTLINE. I DON'T KNOW IF I BROUGHT IT TONIGHT OR NOT. YOU WERE JUST LOOKING AT IT. IT WAS AN EARLIER VERSION OF IT. YEAH.
YEAH. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. I REMEMBER THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER A BUNCH OF DETAILED STUFF BEHIND IT. AND I THINK IT WAS JUST A SMALL GROUP THAT WAS WORKING ON THAT. SO MOST, MOST OF US WEREN'T. SO WE PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW KNOW WHAT'S IN IT. WELL, I REMEMBER US. DIDN'T WE HAVE SOME MEETINGS OVER AT THE AT THE COURSE WHERE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS STUFF? AND THEN I THINK WE WERE COORDINATING WITH WITH GREG ALSO, WE WERE DEVELOPING KIND OF SOME ACTION PLANS, ACTION ITEMS, IF YOU WILL. AND IN ONE OF THE I REMEMBER MEETING IN THE BACK OF THE CONFERENCE ROOM THERE OVER AT THE AT THE BACK ROOM OF THE PRO SHOP. YEAH. WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT AT LEAST ONCE AND MAYBE MORE THAN THAT. I'LL GO BACK. WE WERE GOING OVER THIS, THIS KIND OF STUFF IS LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING, HOW CAN WE GET THERE AND THAT SORT OF THING. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IN THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE ALSO JUST DO HIGH LEVEL BRAINSTORMING. HERE'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE AT THE END OF YEAR ONE. NO IDEA IS A BAD IDEA. LET'S JUST CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION. WE GOT A GROUP OF SMART PEOPLE HERE. HERE'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE BY THE END OF YEAR TWO. HERE'S LIKE WHAT? SEE, BY THE END OF YEAR THREE, MAYBE GO THROUGH MAYBE FIVE YEARS AT THE MOST, MAYBE JUST THREE YEARS. IT'S JUST PART OF THE WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE FROM THAT? WE CAN START ATTACKING THAT THAT FIRST STEP. AND I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE SOMETHING WHERE EVERYBODY'S PROVIDING INPUT. IT'S NOT JUST 1 OR 2 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUT AND THERE'S NO IDEA'S A BAD IDEAS. IT'S A BRAINSTORMING. AND I THINK, AND, AND THEN FROM THAT, I THINK IT'LL BE EASIER TO GENERATE SOME NEXT STEPS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND ACCOUNTABILITIES. WE'LL START OFF WITH THAT AND THEN. YEAH. IS THAT OKAY IF WE DISCUSS THAT NEXT MEETING? I I'M GOOD WITH THAT TOO. YEAH. SO YEAH, SHOULD WE TAKE IT AS A TO DO TO COME WITH THAT SET OF THOUGHTS OR WE
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JUST THAT'S A GREAT INSTALLMENT AT THE MEETING. THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. THINK OF IT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT ALSO BECAUSE ALL OF YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN IN AREAS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN JUST THE ENERGY OF BEING THERE. EXACTLY. WELL, COALESCED AROUND JUICES GOING A LITTLE MORE SORRY, DOES JUST JUST HAVE TO BRING HIS IDEAS OR JUST US KNOW IF JESS HAS ANY IDEAS, WHICH I KNOW HE'S FULL OF IDEAS, BUT THIS IS BEFORE. BEFORE WE FINISH. I DO THINK THAT WE OWE JESS A STRAIGHT ANSWER. DO WE EXPECT HIM TO BE GOING BACK ASKING COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, OR ARE WE LOOKING FOR ANY FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AT THIS POINT? OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE AT A COUNCIL MEETING AND AND AND YOU KNOW, THE HAVE YOUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, YOU KNOW, MAKE MAKE COMMENTS AND ASK FOR THAT. YOU'RE CERTAINLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. I PERSONALLY NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING FIRST BEFORE I DO THAT. OKAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP. AND I'M SORRY IF I STARTED A POOP STORM HERE, BUT NO, THAT'S GREAT. I REALLY WANTED BECAUSE I WANT TO GET A, I WANT TO GET A CLEAR VISION ON WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING.AND I WANT TO MAKE IT USEFUL ALL OF OUR TIME. IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE HAVE. WE WE'VE HAD THIS IMPASSE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO, SO. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE PUBLIC'S. WE HAVE WE'VE GOT THE COUNCIL, WE'VE GOT THE GOLF PRO AND WE GOT US. AND WE ALL KIND OF GOT TO BE GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, WE DON'T HACK OFF SOMEBODY. AND THEN THERE'S NO COOPERATION. I THINK TOGETHER WE CAN PROBABLY DO A GOOD JOB, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THERE FROM FROM ME, FROM MY STANDPOINT, ONCE WE GET OUR HEADS ON STRAIGHT HERE OVER THE NEXT 30, 60 DAYS, WELL, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BEFORE I SPEAK FOR THE COMMITTEE, BE CLEAR ABOUT I MEAN, I THINK AS WE FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED ASKED OF THE COUNCIL. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE BASHFUL TO ASK OF THAT. ASK THAT. AND I KNOW MIKE OR MICHAEL, THERE'S SO MANY MIKES HERE. MCDONALD HAS TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THE ON A YEARLY PRESENTATION. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR HIM ON THAT. YEAH. AND I THINK WE I REALLY DO THINK WE'RE ALL GOING DOWN THE SAME ROAD. AND SO AS WE ARE ABLE TO DEFINE THAT PATH A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY AND THE PATH FORWARD, AND NOT ONLY FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, BUT THE YEAR AFTER, AS WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINING HERE'S WHAT HERE'S WHAT WE COULD DO, HERE'S WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH CERTAIN KINDS OF INVESTMENTS, A CERTAIN KINDS OF. ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN TO, TO PROMOTE THE GOLF COURSE, TO MAKE IT A BETTER GOLF COURSE TO, TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD ON THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. AND I AGREE, WORD OF MOUTH IS, IS, IS, IS GOOD OPPORTUNITY. THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT THE GOLF COURSE, INCLUDING GOLF TOURNAMENTS, LIKE ONE THAT'S COMING UP. THE CHAMBER'S DOING THAT. BRING PEOPLE TO THE GOLF COURSE. THAT MIGHT NOT BE USE THAT REGULARLY. AND SO THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EXPOSURE TO MORE PEOPLE. AND SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WAYS, THINGS THAT INCLUDING AT SOME POINT WHEN, WHEN THE GOLF COURSE IS READY, WHEN, WHEN STAFF AND, AND ARE READY TO HAVE A GRAND, GRAND OPENING OR REOPENING OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED TO, TO ATTRACT PEOPLE AND WITH SOME SPECIAL ACTIVITIES AROUND THAT. SO I THINK, AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S PLANNING THAT CAN BE DONE FOR DOWN THE ROAD AS WE'RE AS WE'RE PLANNING ON THAT, THAT SPRINKLER SYSTEM BEING DONE AND THE GOLF COURSE STARTING TO LOOK GOOD. SO I THINK WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CONTINUING TO DOWN THAT PATH AND BEING MORE CLEAR IN OUR IN OUR THINKING AND PLANS ON WHAT WE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO MAKE FURTHER PROGRESS. OKAY. MOVING ON TO
[III.3. Consideration and Possible action regarding GCAC Future Meeting Dates. ]
ANOTHER SUBJECT, TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING, THE 28TH IS THE FOURTH TUESDAY. IS[01:25:05]
EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT DATE? AND I KNOW WE MOVED THIS 1 TO 7:00 BECAUSE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT COURT. DO WE WANT TO DO SEVEN AGAIN OR 630 OR DO WE WANT TO LEAVE IT AT SIX? I DON'T. 630 WE HAVE WE HAVE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE ON OUR COMMITTEE THAT STILL WORK. YOU STILL WORK? I WORK AT MY HOUSE. YOU WORK AT YOUR HOUSE, MIKE. SO DOES MICHAEL. SO I'M JUST WONDERING, OKAY, FOR FOR YOU TO DOES 7 OR 630 MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO YOUR SCHEDULES? NO. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE EARLIER IS BETTER FOR ME. EARLIER IS BETTER. OKAY. 630 OKAY, LET'S DO THIS. JUNE OR JULY 28TH AT 630. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. AND THERE'S ANOTHER COUPLE OF THINGS ON HERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE TIME OR WANT TO SPEND. DO WE WANT TO TABLE THE DISCUSSION[III.5. Discuss potential partnership with EDC.]
ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE EDC, THE EDC I HAVE, OR DID YOU WANT TO READ SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WITH THAT? OKAY, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK STATUS REPORT BECAUSE IT'S VERY EASY.I REACHED OUT TWICE AGAIN THIS THIS MONTH TO GET A MEETING SET UP WITH THE EDC, AND THEY JUST CAN'T GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. CRICKET SCHEDULE. I GET A NICE NOTE BACK SAYING WE'RE TRYING, EVERYBODY'S BUSY, BUT IT IT. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP BANGING ON THE DOOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO THEY GO TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LUNCHES THAT THEY HAVE ONCE A MONTH? THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO CORNER THEM AT LUNCH ONE DAY. COULD THEY GO TO NICE PLACES? I BET THEY GO. I'VE SEEN THEM. I'VE SEEN THEM. AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE. I. I'VE LOOKED AT WIDE OPEN. YEAH, JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE, ANY TIME. BUT THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE TO GET THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEETING AT THE LUCKY RABBIT TOMORROW. THEN MAYBE THEY'LL PROBABLY BE THERE AND YOU CAN CORNER THEM. OKAY. JUST THERE TOMORROW. BUT I'LL SEE IF THAT WORKS. AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR WAS DISCUSSING THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I THINK WE WENT INTO THAT PRETTY WELL, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WORKING ON THAT NEXT WEEK. SO OR NEXT TIME. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY WANT TO BRING UP. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? ADJOURN SECOND. EDGAR.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL
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