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          OKAY. ANYONE STEP IN IF I'M FORGETTING SOMETHING. BUT THIS IS DAVID. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR ROLL CALL. JUSTIN IS NOT HERE CURRENTLY. DON JOHNDROE. YES, I'M HERE. DAVID. SECRETARY COREY WRIGHT WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT. RUSSELL MURPHY UNABLE TO MAKE IT. JEFF CLOUTING YEP. AND JOHNATHAN AUTRY YEP. I BELIEVE THAT ALLISON FROM THE CHAMBER WILL BE JOINING US HERE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES OR SO. I'LL CHECK BACK IN ON THAT SHORTLY. WE HAVE STAFF LIAISON ERIC ZENO, WHO ALSO JUST STEPPED OUT BUT IS HERE. AND OF COURSE, COUNCILWOMAN MAYOR PRO TEM NORMAN. I BELIEVE WE DON'T REALLY NEED ALLISON HERE TO CONTINUE. RIGHT. WE CAN AT LEAST GET STRAIGHT INTO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS. I DIDN'T SEE ANY. SO. WE CAN WHENEVER ALLISON COMES, WE CAN MOVE THE AGENDA ITEMS OUT OF ORDER. YOU JUST NEED TO CALL IT OUT. OKAY. WHEN SHE COMES IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, WE STILL NEED TO WAIT FOR ERIC TO COME BACK INTO THE ROOM FOR THE STAFF REPORT REPORTS. WE 
          [II.a.  Routine reports from City Council Liaison.]
CAN START WITH TWO A. NORMA, DO YOU HAVE ANY STAFF COUNCIL LIAISON AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REPORTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY? SO THANK YOU. IN REGARD AS LIAISON, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL OR THAT THEY HAVE ASKED THE EDC TO DO AT THIS TIME. 
          THAT BEING SAID, OUR GRANT WRITER, MISS MCCOY, IS HERE. AND SO LOOKING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE EDC WILL WANT TO CONSIDER IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD WANT TO PUT FORWARD ANY PARTICULAR GRANTS THAT SHE MAY SUGGEST OR OR BRING BEFORE THE EDC OR GIVE TO ERIC. THE OTHER IS WHETHER OR NOT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST SOME FUNDING IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME MATCHING GRANTS, OR TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS OR CURRENTLY IS IN THE CURRENT BUDGET IS FOR PLANNING INITIATIVES FOR MARKETING OF LAGO VISTA. THERE'S QUITE A FEW THINGS I THINK, THAT WE COULD DO TOGETHER, POTENTIALLY WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, NOT TO MENTION LOOKING AT EVENTS THAT THE EDC POTENTIALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED WITH. JUST PUTTING A FEW OF THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, MAINLY BECAUSE THE BUDGET SEASON IS HERE AND WE TRY TO GET THE BUDGET PUT TOGETHER BY THE END OF AUGUST. SO YOU'VE GOT ONE MORE EDC MEETING TO AFFECT THAT RECOMMENDATION. SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE TO YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          [II.b.  Routine reports from City Staff.]
AND TO BE REPORT ROUTINE REPORTS FROM STAFF. ERIC, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU MR. DAVID. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TOO MUCH OF AN UPDATE. WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL BLOGGER LIBERTY DAYS. WE WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS. I HOPE SOME OF YOU WAS ABLE TO ATTEND IT. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT WE HAD AT THE FRIDAY WINGS AT THE AIRPORT AND IT WAS A GREAT AS WELL. SO LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT AGAIN. AND MY NEXT ONE WILL BE THE END OF THE YEAR SPLASH DAY THAT JENNIFER IS PLANNING FOR. I THINK I FORGET THE DATE, BUT THAT'LL BE THE NEXT EVENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING. SO BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER UPDATES. I. DOES ANYONE UP HERE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. AND THEN I WILL COME BACK ONCE ALLISON JOINS US. SO SHE SAYS HE'S ON THE WAY NOW. OKAY. AND FOR NOW, I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON TO 3.1 FOR PRESENTATIONS. WE 
          [III.1. Presentation on July grant updates from McCoy Consulting.]
HAVE PRESENTATION FROM MCCOY CONSULTING FOR THE GRANT UPDATES. OR STICK TO LISTEN THAT YOU GUYS GOT YOUR PACKET. I EMAILED IT TO MYSELF JUST IN CASE YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THAT LEE'S BRIEFING THAT I SENT YOU THAT VERSION OR WHAT WAS THE BRIEFING? THANK YOU FOR ASKING. BRITTANY. THE THE ONE THAT YOU SENT. YES. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS LIKE, I EMAILED IT TO MYSELF SO I'D HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. OKAY, SO I APOLOGIZE. I DID SEND TWO 
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VERSIONS. I MOST RECENTLY SENT A MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THE FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT I IDENTIFIED FOR JULY THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPEN, AND I MADE SURE TO LOOK AT THOSE. IT DIDN'T REQUIRE MATCH FUNDING SINCE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING AT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT IF YOU GO TO PAGE TWO, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY OUTDOOR OUTREACH PROGRAM SLASH CO-OP, AND THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT CAN BE FOR UP TO $65,000. 
          AND THAT IS OPEN UNTIL NOVEMBER 1ST. THERE'S NO MATCH REQUIRED. AS I MENTIONED, I DID PUT WITH EACH OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES IF IT WOULD BE A HIGH PRIORITY BASED OFF WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF NEEDS. AND YOU'LL NOTICE ALSO TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF EACH OPPORTUNITY I HAVE THE SCORE, BUT BASICALLY OUT OF 100 AS TO WHERE THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT BEING FUNDED FOR IT, ESSENTIALLY, YOU GUYS SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. I THINK IN OUR PACKET, I BELIEVE IT'S PAGE FOUR. WE DON'T HAVE THE FURTHER DETAIL. I CAN LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE IF I NEED TO. OH, THEY HAVE THE PACKET. YEAH. OKAY. I'LL GO TO THAT. APOLOGIES. FORGIVE ME BRITTANY, BUT I, I FELT THAT THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE RELEVANT TO THEM IF YOU WANTED TO. OKAY. AND I COULD FEEL I WAS GOING TO SAY AS LONG AS YOU I COULD SEE VISUALLY WHERE YOU GUYS ARE CAN STILL FOLLOW IT ESSENTIALLY. BUT WITH THE MORE DETAILED VERSION, I THINK SHE WAS GOING TO PULL IT UP. I SHOULD HAVE JUST BROUGHT MY LAPTOP IN HERE. NOPE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BACK TO THE ORIGINAL VERSION. ALL RIGHT. SO SAME THING. THE FIRST ONE IS STILL THAT COMMUNITY OUTDOOR OUTREACH PROGRAM. AND I'LL JUST GO BACK AND SHARE THOSE METRICS THAT ARE IN THE OTHER REPORT. THANK YOU. SO ON HERE, I BASICALLY JUST PUT WHAT WOULD MAKE THIS A GOOD FIT, A GOOD FIT IN TERMS OF FUNDING AND BASED ON PAST CONVERSATIONS. SO THIS ONE WOULD BE GOOD FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION PROGRAMING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE YOUTH IN EDUCATION. IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY FUND THE TRAIL, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING A LOT AT, BUT IT COULD FUND PROGRAMING AROUND IT. SO IT WAS STILL SUPPORT THAT, IF IT MAKES SENSE. AND AGAIN, I'LL JUST GO BACK TO THE OTHER DOCUMENT AFTER THIS FOR THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS. AND THE SECOND ONE IS A USDA PROGRAM THAT IS THE RURAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE. YOU CAN GET UP TO $500,000. THE ONLY CAVEAT WITH THIS ONE IS YOU HAVE TO PARTNER WITH A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION, WHICH AGAIN, THE RELATIONSHIPS YOU GUYS HAVE THERE, BUT I'M OPEN TO HELP IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE THAT WORK AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT THAT'S FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, LEADERSHIP INITIATIVES OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND CAPACITY BUILDING, WHICH IS SOMETHING I DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY AS WELL. AND THEN THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, WHICH IS A 2420 FIRST CENTURY CONSERVATION SERVICE CORPS PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY. IT'S HOSTED THROUGH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICES, AND THE AMOUNT VARIES, AND THEY ACCEPT APPLICATIONS ON A ROLLING BASIS. 
          SO NO RUSH ON THAT ONE NECESSARILY. BUT AGAIN, NO MATCH FOR THAT. BUT IT CAN BE USED FOR, AGAIN, OUTDOOR RECREATION, CONSERVATION WORK, WORKFORCE TRIAL STEWARDSHIP, YOUTH ENGAGEMENT THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL WITH OTHER ENTITIES. AND THEN THE CITIZENS INSTITUTE ON RURAL DESIGN. IT'S HOSTED BY THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS, AND THIS IS TECHNICALLY TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION SUPPORT. AGAIN, NO MATCH HERE, BUT THIS CAN ALSO BE USED FOR DOWNTOWN PLANNING. IT CAN BE USED FOR PLACEMAKING, TRAIL PLANNING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND THEN THE FINAL ONE I HAVE LISTED IS THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES PROGRAM, WHICH IS A DISASTER REPAIR GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH USDA. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE A ROLLING APPLICATION TIMELINE AND THE AMOUNTS VARY OF WHICH YOU CAN APPLY FOR. THERE'S GENERALLY NO MATCH. USUALLY DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S A RECENT DISASTER. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE FLOODING IS STILL IN THAT TIME FRAME WHERE THEY WOULD CONSIDER IT, BUT THIS IS FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY ASSETS. AGAIN, IF IT'S TIED TO A QUALIFIED DISASTER NEED. LET ME GO BACK TO THIS OTHER ONE REALLY QUICKLY SO I CAN GIVE YOU GUYS THOSE MORE IN-DEPTH DETAILS. SO I HAVE JUST TO GIVE YOU REFERENCE ON THE SECOND DOCUMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT STAFF HOURS THAT MAY BE NEEDED. AND BY DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE KIND OF TIME COMMITMENT WOULD BE NEEDED. ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OR ITEMS I WOULD NEED FROM YOU GUYS AND FROM CITY COUNCIL AND I PUT ON THERE AS WELL, THE LIKELIHOOD TO GET FUNDED BASED ON WHAT THEY TYPICALLY FUND. SO BACK ON THAT COMMUNITY OUTDOOR OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S ABOUT A 27 OUT OF 30 CHANCE OF BEING FUNDED WITH THAT ONE. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 15 STAFF HOURS, AND THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN PARKS AND RECREATION, FINANCE, CITY MANAGEMENT, AND THEN THE CITY SECRETARY. AND THEN I COULD COVER THE REST OF THOSE HOURS, WHICH IS WHAT I OUTLINED. SO LONG TERM PLANNING OR LONG TERM OR LONG TERM IMPACT ON OPERATING IS LOW TO MODERATE. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A LOT OF OVERHEAD PHYSICALLY OR FINANCIALLY FOR THE CITY. AND THEN FOR THE USDA RURAL 
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE, THAT ONE HAS ABOUT A 21 OUT OF 30%, 31 OUT OF 21 OUT OF 30% CHANCE OF BEING FUNDED. BUT AGAIN, IT HAS A STRONG CAPACITY BUILDING OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT REQUIRES AN ELIGIBLE INTERMEDIARY. LIKE I MENTIONED, IT WOULD NEED TO BE A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS USUALLY WHATEVER THE REGIONAL IDO IS OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION FOR THIS AREA, ABOUT 8 TO 12 HOURS OF CITY STAFF HOURS. AND THAT WOULD PRETTY MUCH BE MANAGEMENT. SO ERIC, SORRY. AND FINANCE FOR THE MOST PART. AND I COULD COVER THE REST OF THOSE HOURS. AND SO THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THERE WOULD BE TO GET WITH THAT PARTNER PARTNERING ORGANIZATION OR POTENTIAL ORGANIZATION AND GET THAT IN WRITING. AND I COULD DRAFT THE MOU, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DECIDE TO DO ON WHO WOULD DO WHAT. THE 21ST CENTURY CONSERVATION SERVICE CORPS PROGRAM, THAT ONE WILL BE ABOUT 12 TO 18 HOURS FOR CITY STAFF, AND THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN PARKS AND RECREATION, PUBLIC WORKS AND FINANCE. 
          OVERALL SCORE ABOUT 24 OUT OF 30. AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE PARTNERSHIP AS WELL. I DON'T THINK I NOTED THAT ON THE FIRST DOCUMENT, AND THAT WOULD JUST BE WHAT CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS. I'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT PLENTY WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND PARKS AND RECREATION, AND THEN THE CITIZENS INSTITUTE ON RURAL DESIGN ABOUT. OH, IS IT? NO, NO, NOT THAT ONE. I'M WORKING ON IT. OKAY. THIS IS THE END OF IT ANYWAY. OH, THIS IS THE LAST ONE IN ABOUT 10 TO 15 CITY STAFF HOURS. AND THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN PLANNING CITY MANAGEMENT AND THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THAT ONE. ESSENTIALLY NO LONG TERM MAJOR IMPACT IN TERMS OF OPERATION OR FUNDING FROM THE EDC. AND ABOUT 28 OUT OF 30 IN TERMS OF THE PURSUIT SCORE. SO REALLY, WE JUST REQUIRE PUTTING TOGETHER KIND OF A VISIONING CONCEPT, WHICH I'VE DONE A COUPLE ALREADY, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECTS, LIKE FOR TRAILS, ETC. BUT I JUST MODIFIED, HOWEVER, NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE ACTUALLY SUBMIT A STRONG APPLICATION FOR THAT ONE. OKAY. LAST ONE, THIS IS A COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISASTER REPAIR GRANTS, 10 TO 20 HOURS FOR CITY STAFF, SAME DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE PRIMARILY PUBLIC WORKS FINANCE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. OBVIOUSLY, SINCE THIS IS A DISASTER PROGRAM. MODERATE IMPACT IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL AND FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS AND ABOUT 15 OUT OF 30 SCORES. SO KIND OF HIT OR MISS FOR THAT ONE. BUT IT WAS STILL COVERS SOME OF THE NEEDS. I STILL WANTED TO PUT IT ON THERE JUST IN CASE, BUT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY IT. A QUICK QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU ON THE NPS, THE 21ST CENTURY CONSERVATION. HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, OR ARE YOU ABLE TO KIND OF SEND A LITTLE MORE INFO ON THAT? YEAH, I WOULD SEND MORE INFO. OKAY. 
          THERE'S OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE MENTIONED POSSIBLY TRYING TO GATHER NATIVE WILDFLOWERS, NATIVE PLANTS AND DOING THAT ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THERE'S POTENTIAL BEAUTIFICATION FOR LAGO VISTA. SO THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY CORRELATE WITH THAT, BUT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. AND T-MOBILE IS NOT OPEN RIGHT NOW. WE DID APPLY BEFORE, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD COVER THE COST OF THAT TOO. IT OPENS EVERY YEAR. SO YOU CAN PUT THAT BACK ON THE LIST TO WHEN IT REOPENS FOR BEAUTIFICATION. COOL. Y'ALL GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH YEAH, I FORGOT. I COULDN'T SHARE IT LAST TIME. WE DID GET A GRANT THROUGH AARP. THEY DIDN'T WANT IT ANNOUNCED UNTIL JUNE 24TH. AARP DIDN'T. SO THEY HAVE SCHEDULED OUT, I THINK, ONCE A MONTH SESSIONS TO ATTEND, AND THEY'LL TALK THROUGH HOW TO USE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY PROVIDE, SINCE THEY HAVE A TEMPLATE WAY OF DOING THINGS. AND THIS IN PARTICULAR IS FOR DISASTER RESILIENCE. SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER TOOL KITS FOR THE COMMUNITY. SINCE WE ALL KNOW AUSTIN HAS RESOURCES IN ALL LAUGH, BUT THINK ABOUT ALL THE TIME HOW EVERY RURAL COMMUNITY SAYS AUSTIN HAS THIS OR DALLAS HAS THIS, NEW ORLEANS HAS THIS. LIKE, THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THAT HELPFUL FOR THOSE SMALLER TOWNS THAT CAN'T GET THERE WHEN YOU NEED TO OR CAN'T GET TO THOSE RESOURCES. SO IT'S KIND OF FILLING THAT GAP. SO SOMETHING HAPPENS. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO SAY, OH, NOBODY CAN GET HERE OR HOW UNDER THE BRIDGE WAS FLOODED OUT WITH THE FLOODS RECENTLY. YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR OWN TOOL KIT AND YOU GUYS CAN COME TOGETHER AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S WHAT ARE WE DOING FIRST? WHAT ARE WE DOING SECOND? AND JUST BAND TOGETHER ESSENTIALLY. BUT PART OF THAT ALSO IS I CAN'T REMEMBER THE PARTNER ORGANIZATION THAT AARP USES IN TERMS OF DISASTER RESILIENCE, BUT THEY HAVE SPECIFIC TOOLS THEY HAVE FOR ANY KIND OF DISASTER. SO PART OF THOSE SESSIONS THAT I HAVE TO ATTEND WILL GO THROUGH HOW TO USE THOSE RESOURCES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER AS LIKE A NATIONAL TOOL. SO WE'RE NOT JUST PULLING OUT OF THIN AIR, JUST AN FYI. Y'ALL GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR INPUT? MAYOR PRO TEM AND I'LL JUST ADD ON THAT ON THE AARP. I KNOW WE'RE REACHING OUT TO GREG JOHNSTON. SO PART OF THIS WILL BE DONE WITH THE LOCAL ESD. RIGHT. AND 
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IN TERMS OF DEPLOYING THAT, I KNOW THEY LIKE LOTS OF PICTURES. AS BRITTANY WAS SAYING, ALTHOUGH THIS IS A STARTING GRANT AT 2500, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS AS THEY KIND OF GET US IN THE DOOR. AND IF THAT GOES WELL, THEN WE LOOK AT BIGGER AND BETTER GRANTS. SO JUST AN FYI ON THAT. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE PHOTOS AS WELL. YES, AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET AND PUT IT OUT THERE ON SOCIAL AND ON THE CITY'S PAGE, THEN WHEN WE GO TO APPLY ANYTHING ELSE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT AS A REFERENCE OUTSIDE OF THE APPLICATION. OKAY. WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. Y'ALL WANT ME TO SIT DOWN? WELL THANK YOU, THANK Y'ALL. ALLISON FROM THE CHAMBER HAS JOINED US AS WELL AS COREY WRIGHT AT APPROXIMATELY 415 FOR COREY AND 410 FOR ALLISON. SOMEWHERE IN THERE. I'M THE SECRETARY. I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. ACTUALLY, THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO JUMP BACK. ALLISON, IF 
          [II.c.  Routine reports from Chamber of Commerce. - Executive Director, Allison Sargent]
YOU'RE ABLE TO. BACK TO THE STAFF AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REPORTS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE CHAMBER TO REPORT ON? OKAY. WE'RE CONSTANTLY GOT STUFF HAPPENING. WE HAVE A LUNCHEON TOMORROW AND A MIXER AT THE END OF THE MONTH. AND OUR JULY ISSUE OF THE NEWSPAPER HAS COME OUT. WE ARE SWITCHING TO A NEW PRINTING PARTNER FOR THE NEWSPAPER. STARTING NEXT MONTH. WE'LL BE PRINTING WITH THE COMMUNITY IMPACT. AND SO THEY'RE A LITTLE CLOSER TO US. 
          BETTER PRINT QUALITY. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE JOBS ON THE BOARD. SO I'M LOOKING AT THEM. WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON. THE LUNCHEON WITH THE BREWERY TOMORROW. WE'RE DOING A CHRISTMAS IN JULY THEME, AND IT'S ALL TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT CHRISTMAS INITIATIVES, THE NORTHLAKE CHRISTMAS STORE AND BLUE SANTA'S. AND THEN WE HAVE A GIVE BACK TO OUR TEACHERS. SO THERE'S 50 NEW HIRES THIS YEAR, AND WE PUT TOGETHER GIFT BAGS FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING TO TOWN FROM ALL OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. AND THEY ALL KIND OF JUST, JUST MAKE THEM FEEL WELCOME AND INVITE THEM TO STOP AT ALL THE LOCAL PLACES SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ASSEMBLING THOSE STARTING AT THE LUNCHEON AND MOVING TO THE END OF THE MONTH, AND WE'LL DELIVER THEM AND THE END OF THE MONTH BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR THEME OF GIFTING TOMORROW AT THAT LUNCHEON. AND THEN OUR MIXER IS AT NORTH SHORE MARINA IN JONESTOWN IN THE HOLLOWS ON THE 30TH, AND WE ARE DOING A SUNSET CRUISE ON A BOAT AND, AND TOURING THE SPACE AND JUST GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER IN A FUN WAY. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME TO THAT, YOU'RE ALL INVITED. FUN, FUN WAY TO NETWORK OUT ON THE LAKE WHILE WE HAVE IT HERE. ANY OTHER UPDATES? I THINK I KNOW THAT YOU HAD FEATURED OUR NEW LOCAL BREAKFAST SPOT IN THE PAPER. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW NEW MEMBERS THIS MONTH WE HAD NEW BREAKFAST SPOT. THE VFW JOINED RECENTLY, SO WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THEM ON SOME THINGS. LOTS OF LITTLE MOM AND POPS THAT HAVE POPPED UP. WE DO OUR A 101 CLASS OPEN HOUSE OF THE VISITOR CENTER EVERY MONTH, AND THAT WAS LAST NIGHT. AND WE HAD JOHN. HOW MANY WAS THERE? 10 TO 15 PEOPLE WALK IN AND ALL NEW TO THE CHAMBER. NEVER BEEN IN THE VISITOR CENTER BEFORE. WE'RE AVERAGING BETWEEN 10 AND 15 WALK INS TO THE VISITOR CENTER EVERY DAY, PROBABLY AROUND. I HAVE A REPORT PULLED. HOW FAR? AT LEAST 500 CALLS A MONTH. AND THEN AROUND THAT SAME FOR EMAIL IS. SO OUR VISITOR CENTER IS DEFINITELY GETTING A LOT MORE ACTION RIGHT NOW THAN IT HAD IN THE PAST. OR IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN THERE, COME CHECK IT OUT. WE HAVE A BROCHURES AND MAPS AND GUIDES AND BUSINESS CARDS, AND WE GET QUITE A FEW WALK INS JUST ASKING ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE AREA SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A DOWNTOWN, SO IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHERE TO GO AND WHO TO TALK TO, AND WHAT PLACES TO STOP IN AT. SO YEAH, IT'S GOING GOING GOOD OVER THERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CHAMBER RELATED? NONE THAT I CAN THINK OF. GOT BIG PLANS FOR THE FALL. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON ALL OF IT. BUT YEAH, AS IT COMES OUT, I'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED, INCLUDING AI CLASSES. 
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YEP. STARTING SOME AI SERIES. TRAIN EVERYBODY ON HOW TO USE ALL THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS. 
          DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL BE SPEAKING ON EACH DIFFERENT TYPE, AND THEN KIND OF JUST HELPING ALL OF OUR MEMBERS WITH HOW TO USE THE SOCIAL MEDIAS AND THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS AND WHO TO TAG AND HOW TO DO IT. SO JUST MAKE US ALL A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT WITH OUR, OUR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING. SO THAT'S ALL STARTING UP TOO. YEP. THANK YOU. YEAH. WE'RE ON TO 
          [III.2. Presentation from Covey on wayfinding sign for the City of Lago Vista, by Partner, Travis crow, PLA.]
NUMBER TWO. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM COVEY ON WAYFINDING SIGNS FOR CITY OF LAGO VISTA BY THE TRAVIS CROWE PLA PARTNERS. THANK YOU. TRAVIS CROWE COVEY PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE. WE HAVE A LITTLE SLIDE SHOW THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH. AND THIS YEAH, WE SAY PRESENTATION. THIS IS AS MUCH KIND OF A DIALOG UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU ALL MAY THINK OF WAYFINDING SIGNAGE, WHAT YOU MAY NEED WITH THE EDC NEEDS, WHAT THE PARKS MAY NEED, WHAT CITY OVERALL WAYFINDING NEEDS TO BE. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO PRESUME I KNOW EVERYTHING AND WHERE THINGS SHOULD GO AND HOW THEY SHOULD LOOK, BE SCALED OR WHATEVER. BUT IN AS MUCH OF THIS IS A PRESENTATION, IT CAN BE A DIALOG AS WELL. EXCUSE ME. 
          SO ANYWAY, WHY SIGNAGE? YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING ABOUT SIGNAGE IS IT IS A A DELINEATOR. 
          IT IS A PLACE MAKER. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ENTER INTO A THRESHOLD BY CERTAIN SIGNAGE. THAT'S WHY NEIGHBORHOODS, I KNOW YOU WORK ON NEIGHBORHOODS HERE IN THE AREA. THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THEIR ENTRY SIGNAGE. THEY $100,000 TO $1 MILLION. WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY MAY DO, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE WANTING TO CALL ATTENTION TO PLACE, INVITE PEOPLE IN, LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS HAS A UNIQUE CHARACTER. IT'S A STORY STARTER. AND ONCE YOU ENTER THAT THRESHOLD AND YOU GO INTO THE REST OF THE SPACE, YOU'RE FEELING THOSE FOUNDATION THAT YOU SAW FROM THAT INITIAL MONUMENTAL YOU MAY SEE. AND THAT OFTENTIMES HAPPENS ON MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADS COMING THROUGH. SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE 1431 AND THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER AREAS EVEN OFF OF THE LAKE THAT YOU MAY SEE SOME THINGS LIKE SIGNAGE, MONUMENTS, CALLING ATTENTION, HEY, THIS IS LAGO VISTA UNIFICATION THAT STARTS WITH THE MATERIALITY, THAT PLACE MAKING YOU FEEL IT CARRYING OUT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PLACE. THAT IS THE CITY OR DISTRICT BUSINESS PARK, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO UNIFICATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT THROUGH THE THE UNIFICATION OF FONTS, MATERIALS, HEIGHTS, SCALE, THINGS LIKE THAT. IDENTITY, OBVIOUSLY, YOUR PLACE ALREADY MAKES YOU VERY IDENTIFIABLE. YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL ROLLING HILLS, WINDY ROAD THAT COMES THROUGH YOUR TOWN, THE LAKE, AMAZING TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE, AND JUST A QUAINT CULTURE ABOUT LAGO VISTA. SO YOU HAVE AN IDENTITY. WHAT COULD MERIDIAN WITH THAT IN THE BUILT FORM? AND THAT CAN HAPPEN THROUGH SIGNAGE WAYFINDING. YOU WANT TO ORIENT PEOPLE. THERE'S A LOT OF WINDY ROADS HERE. SO SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET DISCOMBOBULATED. AND WHICH WAY IS NORTH. WHICH WAY IS SOUTH AND WHERE AM I EXACTLY. AND OFTENTIMES WAYFINDING CAN HELP WITH THAT, EVEN JUST SOME SORT OF REGULAR THING THAT YOU MAY SEE THAT IS KIND OF IDENTIFIABLE. OH, THAT'S THAT THING. I KNOW I'M IN THIS CERTAIN AREA. I KNOW, HEY, LET'S MEET HERE. OR THERE'S JUST TONS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS WAYFINDING AND SIGNAGE THAT CAN HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY, MARKETING, BRANDING AND THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT. WE WANT THOSE TO KIND OF MERGE TOGETHER TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE HERE, WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. WE HAVE AMAZING THINGS HAPPENING HERE. WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR PLACE. YOU GUYS COME INVEST IN US AS WELL. AND THAT OFTENTIMES YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, HUDDLE. THEY SPEND TONS OF MONEY ON, ON CERTAIN THINGS TO, HEY, WE HAVE ALL THIS OPEN LAND. WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLACEMAKING STRATEGIES BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME INVEST. SO IT KIND OF SHOWS PEOPLE, HEY, WE CARE ABOUT THIS. WE'RE MAKING IT LOOK GOOD, MODERN, UNIQUE. 
          WE WANT YOU TO COME IN AND DO THE SAME. SO LAGO VISTA SAYS, Y'ALL KNOW WHAT Y'ALL'S ASSETS ARE, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT COULD BENEFIT OR NEED SOME SORT OF WAYFINDING MONUMENT SIGNAGE AS A WHOLE, YOUR OPEN SPACES, YOUR DESTINATIONS, YOUR CIVIC SPACES, YOUR CITY FACILITIES, YOUR BUSINESS PARKS, YOUR DOWNTOWN, ANY KIND OF SUBDISTRICTS YOU MAY HAVE, EVEN THE WAY JUST TO THE LAKE. SO THESE ARE KIND OF YOUR ASSETS. Y'ALL KNOW OF THEM. 
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YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL VIEWS. MAYBE YOU WANT TO CALL ATTENTION FOR THAT TOURISM SORT OF ASPECT, BUSINESS SORT OF ASPECTS. THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO WITHIN ANY KIND OF SIGNAGE. AND THAT'S LOOKING VERY GLOBALLY. AND THAT'S WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHERE Y'ALL WANT TO HIT. IS IT ONLY BUSINESS TARGETED SORT OF SIGNAGE? IS IT WIDESPREAD CITY ASSETS. SO I'M JUST KIND OF LISTING. I WANT US TO JUST KIND OF BE THINKING GLOBALLY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY LAYERS TO IT. AND THEY, THEY ALL CAN KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND WORK COHESIVELY. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE FORM FACTORS OF SIGNAGE. YOU HAVE YOUR MONUMENTS, YOU'LL HAVE PRETTY GOOD MONUMENTAL ACTUALLY, IN LIKE THREE PLACES THAT I SAW, BUT THOSE CAN BE OUR PRIMARY SORT OF GATEWAY MONUMENTS THAT ARE SECONDARY. MAYBE THEY'RE THINGS THAT ARE ONE STEP IN, MAYBE THEY'RE SUBDISTRICT MONUMENTS, BUT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LARGER, A LITTLE MORE GRAND. BUT THEY MAY HAVE KIND OF THIS FOUNDATIONAL MATERIALITY OR ASPECT TO THEM THAT WOULD CARRY THROUGH. THAT'D BE KIND OF LIKE YOUR BASIS. OH MAN, I'M IN LAGO VISTA. AND THEN YOU SEE KIND OF THESE SMALLER THINGS AS YOU GO VEHICULAR SIGNS. THESE ARE GOING TO BE KIND OF THE LARGER, MORE THIRD DESTINATION SORT OF SIGNS THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THE HIGHWAYS OR THE SECONDARY COLLECTOR ROADS THAT WOULD SAY, HEY, THIS WAY TO THE LIBRARY, THIS WAY TO CITY HALL, THIS WAY TO THE LAKE, THIS WAY TO. POST OFFICE, ANY KIND OF THE MAJOR DESTINATIONS THAT WE WOULD WORK ON TOGETHER, ANY STAKEHOLDERS THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THOSE PRIMARY SORT OF DESTINATIONS. AND SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE VEHICULAR SORT OF SIGNS. YOU CAN HAVE PARKING SIGNS, YOU CAN HAVE MORE OF A SECONDARY VEHICULAR SIGNAGE THAT WOULD BE LIKE AT A SMALLER SCALE TO THE FONT WOULD BE SMALLER. YOU COULD HAVE MORE LISTED ON THERE. 
          AND THEN YOU GET INTO YOUR PEDESTRIAN SIGNS. AND THESE ARE MORE THINGS THAT YOU'D BE SEEING IN PARKS, OPEN SPACES, PLAZAS, DOWNTOWN SPACES, LIKE A LOT, A LOT MORE CLOSER SCALED, SMALLER FONTS. THEY CAN HAVE A PRETTY LARGE ARRAY OF DESTINATIONS AS WELL. BUT THESE SORT OF TEAR DOWN, THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER. SO YOUR VEHICULAR SIGNAGE THAT CAN ALSO WORK IN TERMS OF PLACE, MAKING THINGS SUCH AS BANNERS LIKE ON LIGHT POLES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THESE ARE ALL THOSE LAYERS OF BRANDING, MARKETING, MONUMENTS AND PLACE MAKING. SO OUR PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING EVEN LIKE I SAID TODAY IS LIKE THIS. THIS CAN BE MORE OF A CONVERSATION. WE WANT TO LEARN WHAT YOU ALL NEED AS AN EDC, AS A CITY, PARKS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. HOW DOES THIS ALL LAYER WORK TOGETHER? HOW CAN WE GET YOU THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IN WHATEVER THAT THAT FINAL OUTCOME IS? AND THAT'S OUR FIRST PIECE. WE CALL IT OUR DISCOVERY PHASE WHERE WE'RE COMING IN, WE'RE TALKING TO YOU ALL. WE'RE LISTENING. WE GO OUT AND DO OUR OWN INVENTORY AND ANALYSIS WHERE THINGS REALLY WOULD WORK, ANALYZING INTERSECTIONS OR ROADWAYS, VEHICULAR SORT OF ASPECTS. WHERE DO PEOPLE TURN THE MOST? WHERE ARE THEIR VIEWSHEDS, THINGS LIKE THAT ENGAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S JUST WITH STAKEHOLDERS OR A CITY WIDE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OR MORE FOCUS GROUP, WE GET INVOLVED IN THAT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HEARING AS MUCH VOICE AS WE CAN SO WE CAN RESPOND ACCORDINGLY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE CONSENSUS OF, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. AND THEN WE KIND OF JUMP INTO OUR VISION AND OUR GOALS. THIS IS KIND OF GUIDING US THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE PROCESS OF, HEY, THIS IS THE TARGET WE WANT TO HIT. THIS IS WHERE OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS KIND OF OUR PARAMETERS, OUR GUARDRAILS OF HOW WE GET THERE. AND THEN WE START DESIGNING UP WHAT THAT FAMILY OF SIGNAGE OR WAYFINDING WOULD BE, MAKING SURE ALL THE, THE FORMS AND SCALE CAN TEAR DOWN ALL THOSE DIFFERENT LAYERS. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT THEIR MATERIALS WORK TOGETHER, THEIR FONTS ARE COHESIVE AND THAT THEY ARE LEGIBLE AND THEY'RE REPLICATABLE. AND THEN THAT TIES INTO OUR SIGN DESIGN. WE'RE THINKING OF THESE BEING IMPLEMENTED. WE'RE NOT JUST DRAWING PRETTY STUFF ON A PAGE AND SAYING, HEY, GOOD LUCK BUILDING THAT. IT'S NOT REALLY BUILDABLE. SO WE'RE THINKING OF THAT FINAL IMPLEMENTATION PIECE. 
          WE HELP BUILD THINGS ALL THE TIME SO WE KNOW HOW THINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED AND THEN MAPPING, WHERE DO THESE GO? WHAT, WHERE IS PARKING, WHERE THE MAJOR DESTINATIONS. THAT'S THAT'S WE'RE HEARING FROM YOU ALL. AND WE THEN REPLICATE THAT ON A PLANNED MAP WITH KIND OF 
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PRIORITIES. AND THEN WE COST ESTIMATE, HEY, THIS MONUMENT IS GOING TO COST THIS MUCH, THESE TYPE OF SIGNS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NINE OF THESE. THEY'RE GOING TO COST THIS MUCH. AND THEN ACTION PLAN THOSE NINE SIGNS, THOSE ARE PRIORITY. YOU PROBABLY NEED TO PUT THOSE IN IN THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS. AND THEN WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? OR HOW DO WE COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER? KIND OF THE ENTITY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IMPLEMENTATION. AND THIS IS JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD MAJOR MONUMENT SIGN OFF OF AN ARTERIAL HIGHWAY, CITY MONUMENT. MORE SMALL DISTRICT SORT OF DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN URBAN PLAZA TYPE SPACES. BUT REALLY IT'S ITS STORY AND ITS PLACEMAKING ALL COMING TOGETHER IN THIS LAYERED EFFECT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN REALLY BRING TO THE TABLE. I DO HAVE SOME HIGH LEVEL SORT OF BREAKDOWNS OF JUST PRICING SCOPE OF WHAT SOME OF THIS MAY LOOK LIKE. THEY'RE KIND OF DONE IN THESE CHUNKS OF ALMOST SORT OF WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED FROM THE FIRST ONE IS CITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO THAT'D BE SORT OF CITY FACILITY SIGNAGE. SO EVEN OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, AS I PULLED UP, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE, HEY, THIS IS CITY HALL. THIS IS MUNICIPAL COURT. HOW DO YOU ORIENT TO THIS? LIKE, EVEN WHEN I WALKED UP TO THE BUILDING, I SAW SOME SIGNS ON THE GLASS. BUT IF I DIDN'T TEXT JORDAN, I WOULD NEVER KNOW HOW TO GET IN HERE. SO JUST THAT SORT OF LAYERING OF, HEY, IF SOMEONE WALKS UP, THEY SEE THIS, THEY KNOW TO TURN RIGHT. SO THAT SORT OF FACILITY SIGNAGE AND THAT WOULD ALL BE UNIFIED WOULD BE MAPPING DONE. THEY'D BE MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS, OBVIOUSLY CITY STAFF, COUNCIL AND GETTING THAT GUIDED BY THEM, LOCATION MAPPING WHERE THAT WOULD BE, WHAT SIZE IT WOULD BE, WHERE IT'D BE POINTING, WHAT THE NAME WOULD BE. ALL THAT KIND OF DESIGN WORK WOULD GO INTO THAT MOVE ON TO THIS IS PROBABLY THE, THE LARGEST CHUNK AND THE MOST EXPANSIVE. THIS, THIS COVERS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING YOU'D WANT TO SEE IN KIND OF THE PUBLIC REALM OF THE CITY. SO ON YOUR MAJOR ROADWAYS, IN YOUR PARKS, OPEN SPACE TRAILS, GUIDING PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT DESTINATIONS AND DISTRICTS, THINGS THAT MAY BE ON LIGHT POLES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR THE CITY CENTER. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR PROCESS AND OUR SCOPE FOR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THAT'S A BIG CHUNK, BUT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN THAT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. SO I MEETINGS, A LOT OF ON THE GROUND OBSERVATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THIS IS OUR LARGEST DESIGN BECAUSE THERE'D BE SO MANY DIFFERENT FAMILIES OF SIGNS WE'D BE DESIGNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIGNAGE. 
          THIS ONE WAS I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH Y'ALL WOULD NECESSARILY NEED IN THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE 1 OR 2 BUSINESS PARKS THAT MAYBE NEED SOME SORT OF MULTI-TENANT SIGNAGE, WHETHER IT'S MORE OF A DISTRICT AREA THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO REALLY CREATE A PLACE FOR WITH EVEN INTERNAL SIGNAGE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NEEDS TO BE, BUT OUR PROCESS IS PRETTY SIMILAR. BE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WITH YOU ALL AND Y'ALL GUIDING THIS PIECE OF IT AND THEN CREATING BASICALLY DESIGNS FOR EITHER MULTI-TENANT BUSINESS PARK MAJOR MONUMENTAL SIGN OR INTERNAL SIGNAGE WHERE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES MAY BE, THINGS LIKE THAT WITH LOCATION MAPPING AND COST ESTIMATES ON THERE AND THEN BRANDING. THIS ONE'S PROBABLY THE, THE BIGGEST, BROADEST THING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAY NEEDED TO BE DONE WITH BRANDING. IT SEEMED LIKE A DECENTLY STRONG BRAND. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS DONE, BUT THAT WORKS PRETTY WELL. 
          BUSINESS PARKS, IF THEY NEED A PARTICULAR BRAND, ANY KIND OF DISTRICTS WITHIN THAT MAY NEED A BRAND. CITY PARKS IF THEY NEED A BRAND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN DONE. AND AND IF IT'S PRUDENT, BUT I THREW OUT A PRETTY BIG RANGE LIKE, HEY, YOU COULD TIE THESE IN AS KIND OF A, YOU CAN SEE THE COMPLETE PACKAGE. IF YOU DID ALL THESE TOGETHER, THERE'S SOME COST SAVINGS WITH THAT AND IT COULD LOOK ALL COHESIVE WITH THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL FAILINGS, LIKE PARKS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THEIR OWN PARTICULAR STYLE, BUT WITHIN THE SAME FOUNDATION OF OVERALL LOGO, VISTA, SIGNAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT. ONE QUESTION I HAVE, I DIDN'T SEE IT LISTED, 
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BUT I'M SURE IT'S THERE FOR AREAS THAT REQUIRE LIKE TXDOT COLLABORATION FOR PUTTING UP. I ASSUME THAT'S FACTORED IN. THAT WOULD BE DONE MORE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PIECE OF IT. 
          ONCE YOU ACTUALLY GOT CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IT, WE COULD GIVE ACTIONABLE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION OF HOW TO GO ABOUT COORDINATING WITH TXDOT ONCE YOU DID THAT WITHIN THE PLAN. 
          YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, COREY. YEAH. SO WHAT IF WHAT IF ANY, REQUIRE PERMITTING WITH REGARDS TO. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, MONUMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE. 
          DO I HAVE TO PUSH. IT'S GOOD. NOW IT'S ONE TIME. AND SO IS YOU KNOW IS HOW MUCH OF THIS IS INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTING FOR ANY PERMITS OR THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED, TXDOT. SO ONCE, ONCE THESE HIGH LEVEL, I WOULD CALL THESE MORE LIKE CONCEPT SCHEMATIC DESIGNS, CREATING A FAMILY AND A GUIDED PLAN FOR IMPLEMENTATION. ONCE THE IMPLEMENTATION PIECE CAME AND SAID BUSINESS OR LIKE PARK WANTED TO IMPLEMENT THAT SIGN, THEY WOULD THEN GO THROUGH A PERMITTING PROCESS AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WOULD BE DONE FOR THAT. OKAY, THAT'D BE A, THAT'D BE A SEPARATE SORT OF PROCESS. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE AND THAT WOULD BE DONE THROUGH YOU GUYS. YOU DO THE DOCUMENTATION STUFF. IT COULD BE OR, YOU KNOW, THIS PLAN IS, IS WHOEVER'S AND THEN THEY TAKE IT AND THEY GO GET, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CONTRACTOR, THE BUILDER. YEAH, WHOEVER'S INSTALLING IT, THE HOPE WOULD BE THESE ARE DONE IN ENOUGH DETAIL. AND LIKE I TALKED ABOUT, IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE KNOW HOW THINGS ARE BUILT, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO CANTILEVER SOMETHING OFF OF A LITTLE TINY FOUR INCH POLE. YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONSTRUCTION METHODS OF HOW TO BUILD SOMETHING. AND YOU COULD TAKE THAT TO A CONTRACTOR AND THEY, THEY COULD BUILD IT. OKAY. SOME OF THEM, I'M NOT SAYING ALL OF THEM, BUT AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT. ESSENTIALLY, WHEN WE HAVE THIS PACKAGE READY TO GO, AS SOON AS WE IDENTIFY A NEED, WHETHER IT'S PARKS, EDC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE CAN SAY, HERE'S OUR PLAN, HERE'S WHAT WE WANT, HERE'S THE GENERAL SPECS FOR IT. 
          LET'S GO HAVE IT BUILT. AND SAME THING WE HAD DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT, INCENTIVES PROGRAMS FOR THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THINGS. WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCENTIVIZE IT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PACKAGE TO SAY, IF YOU DO X, WE CAN GIVE YOU Y AND MOVE ON FROM THERE. AND THAT'S, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS FIGURING OUT WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE WANT. AND THEN WHEN WE GET THAT NICE PACKAGE, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE. SO OFTENTIMES THESE WILL HAVE KIND OF THAT FAMILY AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE IN SCALE. SO THEY WOULD HAVE DIMENSIONS TO THEM. THEY WOULD HAVE MATERIAL CALL OUTS TO THEM. YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE KIND OF THAT, THAT MAJOR FORM AND DESIGN FACTOR TO THEM. OKAY. ARE YOU GUYS INVOLVED AT ALL DURING CONSTRUCTION? YEAH. IF WE WENT INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WE WOULD DO SEE A OKAY. YEAH. BACK TO YOUR COMMENT. DO WE ENVISION THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR COMMENT WAS ABOUT BUSINESSES IN PARTICULAR, THE INCENTIVE SIDE OF THINGS. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, IF A BUSINESS WANTS TO PUT UP A SIGN, LIKE THEY'LL WORK WITH THE CITY FOR PERMITTING, DO WE DO WE NOT HAVE A WAY TO, ONCE THIS IS ESTABLISHED, REQUIRE THAT THEY MAINTAIN THE CITY GUIDELINES AND BRANDING STYLES. SO WE DO. THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS THERE IS. IN ORDER TO PUT IT IN THE CODE, THAT IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY FOLLOW OUR STANDARDS, WE HAVE TO UPDATE OUR STANDARDS. 
          AND SO PART OF THIS, AS MUCH AS EVERYTHING ELSE, FROM A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STANDPOINT, WE HAVE NOT UPDATED OUR SIGN SPECS IN QUITE A WHILE. AND SO PART OF THIS PROCESS, IF WE ARE TO PROCEED, IS ALSO GETTING THOSE SPECS. AND THEN WE ADOPT THEM AS CODE. AND THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FOR INCENTIVE BASED THINGS. SPECIFICALLY, WHATEVER PROGRAM WE DECIDE THAT THAT'S LEGAL AND OUR ATTORNEY CAN AGREE WITH. I MEAN, IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, IF YOU USE OUR CITY SPECS AND YOU PUT THE CITY LOGO ON IT OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE 
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IT'S A, IT'S IDENTIFIED ON A MAP THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THERE AS WAYFINDING WILL ALLOW YOU CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO BE WAVERED OR, YOU KNOW, WILL DECREASE YOUR SETBACKS, OR THAT THERE'S TEN DIFFERENT WAYS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT INCENTIVE IS. BUT IN ORDER TO CREATE THE INCENTIVE, WE HAVE TO FIRST HAVE THE BAIT ESSENTIALLY, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AS A WHOLE TO TO OFFSET. GOTCHA. THAT SOUNDS FAIR. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE BRANDING QUOTE UP THERE AND WHERE WE FEEL WE ARE WITH REGARDS TO CITY BRANDING IS THAT, I MEAN, YOU HAD MENTIONED WE'VE GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, COLORS AND FLAG DESIGN AND SOME LOGO STUFF FIGURED OUT. WE OPEN TO RECONSIDERING THAT OR DO OR DO WE WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ON WHAT WE HAVE AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS. MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE EARLY TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT. WELL, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT IT'S AT STAFF'S DISCRETION. I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO IDENTIFIABLE LOGOS. THE MORE YOU CAN MAKE IT IDENTIFIABLE AND RELATED TO US AS A CITY, THE BETTER. AND SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS SWISH THAT'S BEEN KIND OF TRANSFORMED OVER THE YEARS WITH THE EL AND ALL THAT STUFF. I THINK OUR COLORS HAVE LARGELY REMAINED THE SAME WHETHER OR NOT IT WANTS, BECAUSE IT MAY JUST BE SUBTLE IMPROVEMENTS. IT MAY BE SOME SMALL TWEAKS. MY CONCERN WOULD BE AS WE START PUTTING THINGS ON SIGNS, HOW DOES IT LOOK? HOW DOES IT TRANSLATE? AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW. AS IT STANDS NOW, NONE OF OUR MONUMENTAL SIGN MATCHES IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT WAS JUST ON ON 1431. THERE'S SAILBOATS, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE ONE AT LOWMAN AND 1431, WHICH IS NOT THE SAME AS DAWN AND LOWMAN. AND SO WHAT THAT STANDARDIZATION IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AS A CITY ENTIRELY FOR US TO DECIDE. YEAH. I DON'T THINK IT'S A STAFF LEVEL, BUT IN A SENSE WE'RE PRETTY BLANK SLATE TO YOUR POINT. IN A SENSE, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED. DON. HELLO. SORRY. YEAH. CAN I INSERT SOMETHING? YES. GO AHEAD. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE TO MAKE PREPARATION TO DO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE AS SPECIFICALLY HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PORTRAY OURSELVES? WHAT, WHAT MASCOTS ARE WE GOING TO USE? YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WE'VE NEVER COME DOWN TO DECIDING, OKAY, THIS IS THE WAY WE WANT TO GO. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BUILD A FOUNDATION BEFORE WE CAN SERIOUSLY CONSIDER A LOT OF THESE THINGS AT THIS MOMENT, AT THIS MOMENT. I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS SIGNAGE GOES, IS MAYBE ANOTHER TYPE OF MONUMENT SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, INDICATING THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE OUR CITY HALL, OUR LIBRARY, THE POLICE STATION, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH TO INDICATE WHERE THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE. AND THAT COULD BE MAYBE A MONUMENT SIGN DIRECTING TO DIFFERENT TO DIFFERENT THINGS. OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK IT WOULD. OUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY CURRENTLY IS THE WHAT WHAT'S BEEN CALLED VEHICULAR SIGNAGE. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD INDICATE WHERE CERTAIN OTHER FACETS OR FACILITIES ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WEDDING THINGS THAT ARE COMING IN AND, AND HOTELS AND STUFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT WE CERTAINLY LACK THE ABILITY TO INDICATE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, SOME OF THE REALLY OUTSTANDING THINGS THAT OUR AREA OFFERS. AND THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO BACKFILL AND GET IN CONVERSATION WITH THE PO AND OTHER PEOPLE SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT LOGO VISTA BEING AT THE HEAD OF A PENINSULA THAT STICKS OUT INTO LAKE TRAVIS, AND THIS IS HOW YOU GET TO DIFFERENT AREAS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, WHICH WE CAN'T DO CURRENTLY. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, SINCE WE HAVE THIS, THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, NOW, THIS IS A SERIOUS THING THAT WE ARE SORT OF LIKE THE, THE, THE BULLET POINT FOR THE CITY AIMING AT GETTING A NUMBER OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS RESOLVED. AND IT'S UP TO OUR IMAGINATION AND OUR DETERMINATION TO DECIDE WHAT, WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO, AND THEN TO GIVE SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE TO THE 
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CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY DEVELOP A CONSENSUS AS TO WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO, BECAUSE THIS GENTLEMAN IS VERY KINDLY TALKING ABOUT INDICATING PARKS AND INDICATING CITY CENTER. WE DON'T HAVE PARKS, WE DON'T HAVE A CITY CENTER, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS NOW TELL US HOW TO GET PEOPLE THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND DECIDING ON WHAT OUR PATH IS IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE WHAT OUR DIRECTION IS. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE A LOT TO DO NECESSARILY WITH THE SIGNAGE, BUT TO GET TO THE NEED FOR A LOT OF SIGNAGE, WE HAVE TO DO THE BACKFILL FIRST. SO I JUST WANTED TO INTERJECT THAT, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK ABOUT THAT FURTHER BECAUSE WE'RE YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR SECOND MEETING AS A CORPORATION AND WE'RE NOT WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITE DIRECTION IN MIND. SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT. AND I'M, I'M A PART OF THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING. THEY WANT SIGNAGE THAT TELLS PEOPLE WHERE THE LIBRARY IS. YOU KNOW, THIS GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT THAT WE NEED SIGNAGE TO INDICATE WHERE CITY HALL IS, WHERE THE COURT SYSTEM IS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, THOSE ARE THINGS WE NEED, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER STUFF TO DO FIRST ALSO. HEY, DON. 
          THANK YOU. THIS IS. COREY. SO. I, I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING. WHAT I WOULD COUNTER IS THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT THE BEST EQUIPPED ON THE EDC TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS. AND THAT'S WHY WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO HIRE THAT OUT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHICS DESIGNER OR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND FOLKS THAT HAVE THE DESIGN BACKGROUND, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE ABLE TO HELP GUIDE US ALONG THAT PATHWAY AND THAT DESIGN PROCESS TO DEVELOP A COHESIVE STANDARD. BECAUSE I WHAT MADE ME NERVOUS AS I HEARD YOU THROW OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS LIKE, WELL, WE MIGHT NEED A MONUMENT SIDE TO DO THIS. THAT WOULD JUST BE EXACERBATING THE PROBLEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OF CREATING PIECEMEAL THINGS THAT DON'T CORRELATE TO EACH OTHER. SO THE HOPE IN HIRING SOMEONE LIKE SORRY, TRAVIS. WOULD BE TO MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST LIKE URBAN DESIGN AND CITY DESIGN MASTER PLAN FOR WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF THIS ENTIRE THING? WANT TO LOOK LIKE? WE START WITH BIG PICTURE, HOLISTIC APPROACH AND REALLY JUST GO FROM THE GRANULAR DOWN TO LIKE OR I MEAN, FROM LIKE THE, THE LARGE SCALE DOWN TO LIKE THE GRANULAR MICRO LEVEL. 
          AND SO THAT WILL GIVE US THAT PLAYBOOK AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT REALLY HIT EVERY ASPECT, THIS IS WHAT OUR MONUMENT SIZES LOOK LIKE. 
          THIS IS WHAT PEDESTRIAN SIGNS LOOK LIKE. THIS IS WHAT THAT SIGN OFF AT 1431 NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE. THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO DEVELOP THE TOOLKIT IN WHICH MOVING FORWARD, ANYTIME WE NEED SOMETHING, WE LOOK TO THAT AND SAY THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, RIGHT. AND WE'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY WE'LL DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS WITH CONTRACTORS THAT KNOW OUR STANDARD THAT CAN EXECUTE AND DEVELOP WHAT WE NEED QUICKLY. AND SO THE GOAL IS TO CREATE THAT BASELINE OF DESIGN THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED MOVING FORWARD. SO EVERYTHING STAYS COHESIVE. SO I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG TICKET, BUT I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CONFIRMS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR CONTRADICTS IT. BUT I THINK BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON ANYTHING, WE KIND OF NEED TO DO THIS BEFORE WE CAN MAKE A DECISION TO CREATE ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD. YEAH. JORDAN, JUST AS A THINGS LIKE WAYFINDING, HOT FUNDS CAN GO TOWARDS WAYFINDING AND PLACE MAKING EFFORTS, AS I'VE SAID, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WOULD LOVE SIGN STANDARDS. AND IF WE CAN GET THOSE PACKAGED UP, THAT PORTION OF IT WILL PAY FOR AS WELL. THIS IS NOT THE EXPECTATION THAT Y'ALL SHELL OUT HOWEVER MUCH MONEY FOR ALL OF THIS STUFF. IT'S LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY WANT, WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED, AND HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER. BECAUSE WE HAVE SUNSET PARK AND WE HAVE TRAILS THAT HAVE NO SIGNAGE BESIDES, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE TRIED TO AGAIN, PIECEMEAL, WE HAVE THINGS NEXT TO THE LIBRARY OVER HERE AND ALL OF THAT. AND SO NOT THAT PARKS HAS A LOT TO PITCH IN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PART OF ALL OF THIS AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IF IT DOESN'T MATCH AND WE CONTINUE TO PIECEMEAL IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST 
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EXACERBATING THE ISSUE. AND SO THERE'S SOME STICKER SHOCK THAT COMES WITH ANY OF THESE PLANS. 
          JUST KNOW THAT IT'S NOT ASSUMED THAT IT'S ALL SITTING AT THE FOOT OF THIS BOARD. HOWEVER, WE WE FIGURE THIS OUT. THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF SHARING. AGAIN, HOT TAXES CAN BE APPLIED TO THIS STUFF. AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT. IT CAN BE SPLIT OVER TWO FISCAL YEARS. I MEAN, THERE'S IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT THE SCOPE LOOKS LIKE, AND WE CAN GET THAT PRICE LOCKED IN, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THAT DONE. YEAH. BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE COULD EITHER GO ONE OF TWO ROUTES. WE COULD CONTINUE TO PIECEMEAL AND CREATE AN INCOHESIVE KIND OF ERRATIC LAYOUT OF MIXING MIXED, YOU KNOW, HODGEPODGE MIX AND MATCH OF SIGNS, WHICH IS CONFUSING IN AND OF ITSELF, RIGHT? WHEN THERE'S NO ESTHETIC COHESIVENESS, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW, OKAY, WELL, THAT SIGN WAS MADE OUT OF WOOD AND THAT'S TELLING ME TO GO HERE. AND NOW I SEE A STREET SIGN THAT SAYS THIS OR SO. OR WE COULD, YOU KNOW, GO THE OTHER ROUTE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A LONG TERM PLAY. BUT I THINK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY IDENTITY, AND HOPEFULLY TOURISM AND OTHER ECONOMIC BENEFITS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE MORE WE CAN, WE CAN ANCHOR OURSELVES IN IDENTITY, THE MORE JUST LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF HOW TO AND THESE OTHER CITIES THAT, THAT REALLY INVEST IN WHAT THEIR, THEIR CITY BRAND AND IDENTITY WANTS TO BE. AND YOU, YOU ATTRACT MORE INTEREST IN A SENSE BY HAVING THAT. BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE DON'T SEE A COHESIVE DESIGN IN SOMETHING, THEY THINK THEY CAN DO ANYTHING. AND THAT'S WHAT JUST BASTARDIZES THE SPACE EVEN MORE SO. RIGHT? SORRY TO USE THAT WORD. I THINK Y'ALL, I DON'T KNOW WHICH PACKAGE Y'ALL USE, BUT Y'ALL DID TEMPLE, RIGHT? WAS THAT THE YES SIR. AND SO I LOVE IT. I GO TO VA AND IT'S JUST GREAT WHEN YOU GO INTO BRANDING AND ALL OF THAT IN TEMPLE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER WENT TO TEMPLE AND DROVE THERE. THEY I KNOW THAT THEY DID SOME WORK IN TEMPLE. ONE THING THAT DOING SIGNAGE, LIKE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY ALMOST DO LIKE AN AUDIT OF WHAT DO WE HAVE? I LISTED OFF SOME ASSETS. THE PARKS I PUT ON THERE. I, I THINK PARKS IS ON THE CUSP OF HAVING THINGS THAT COULD BE A DRAW. I MEAN, YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE, YOU HAVE VIEWS, YOU HAVE SOME TRAILS, LIKE THERE ARE THINGS THAT LIKE WE CAN START LISTING OUT TOGETHER AND WORKING TOWARDS LIKE, OH, THESE ARE SOME VOIDS. LIKE THESE ARE THINGS MAYBE NOW WE'RE EVEN AWARE OF THAT COULD BE A DRAW OR BE GOOD FOR BUSINESS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST HERE IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE STUFF OWNED BY THE POA, AND THEY KIND OF CONTROL THAT IN A SENSE. AND IT'S A STRUGGLE. IT'S A STRUGGLE ECONOMICALLY FOR US BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE. 
          THAT'S IT MIGHT NOT PROBABLY COMPREHEND THEN THE POA PIECE OF IT. YEAH. AND SO THERE'S NOT A TON OF WATERFRONT. THERE'S NOT A TON OF PUBLIC BEACHES. THERE'S NOT A TON OF ACCESS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE POA WOULD WORK WITH THE SIGNAGE. WOULD THEY PLAY WELL WITH US? AND THAT THAT SPECIFICALLY IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON. AND THAT'S A PART OF MY POINT. SO TO AN EXTENT, IT'S NOT EVEN SO MUCH WORKING TOGETHER. I DON'T THINK, AND DAVID HAS THE POA ON HIS BOARD, SO HE MAY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE THE BOARD AS A WHOLE. BUT. 
          IT CAN BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS CHANGING COLOR. WE CAN PUT A SIGN ON THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT SAYS, HERE'S A PARK. BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COME IN, CITY IS ONE COLOR, POA IS ANOTHER COLOR. 
          AND AT LEAST THEN THERE'S PEOPLE WHO, BECAUSE I JUST MOVED HERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I STARTED AND I STILL TO THIS DAY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WHAT AND WHO'S WHERE. AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, BOAT RAMPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND SO IT, AGAIN, IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS CHANGING THE COLOR OF THAT BLADE, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK OUT, BUT MAKING IT CONSISTENT, MAKING IT RECOGNIZABLE. YOU SET THAT STANDARD AND YOU SET THAT PRECEDENT. AND NOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN JOE SCHMO COMES IN TO VISIT, YOU CAN SAY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SIGNAGE, AVOID THE AREAS THAT ARE WHATEVER. OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE POA PROPERTY, YOU GO THERE. IF THE POA IS WILLING TO PARTNER UP IN SOME GREATER WAY, GREAT. WE'LL HAVE THOSE STANDARDS. WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND FIGURE THAT OUT. AND THERE'LL BE A HUGE PART OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE ACCESS. BUT ALL OF THAT IS STUFF TO BE WORKED OUT THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND MAYBE NOT A 
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BIG QUESTION WE CAN ANSWER TODAY. YEAH. NOPE. YEAH, YEAH. COME ON UP. CAN I? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY ONE THAT THERE ARE GRANTS FOR WAYFINDING SIGNAGE. AND THAT COULD BE EITHER FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, BEAUTIFICATION OR FROM TOURISM, SINCE THAT'S A BIG INDUSTRY HERE. AND NUMBER TWO, IN TERMS OF MARKETING, EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE SIGNAGE, IT MAKES SENSE JUST FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE TO HAVE BRANDING GUIDELINES, WHICH ONCE THEY'RE SET, YOU LITERALLY JUST SEND THAT PDF TO PEOPLE. AND A GOOD EXAMPLE, IF Y'ALL WANT WANT TO REFERENCE LIKE COCA COLA, WHICH WE ALL KNOW COCA COLA. JESUS, YOU CAN LOOK AT THEIR STANDARDS FOR AMERICA, THEIR STANDARDS FOR OTHER COUNTRIES, IT'S THIS OR IT'S NOTHING ELSE. SO THERE'S NO QUESTION IT'S WE GAVE YOU THAT DON'T FOLLOW IT. THERE'S NO IN-BETWEEN. BUT ONCE THAT'S SET, IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD. BUT AGAIN, ALSO THINK ABOUT A COMMUNITY OR WHATEVER COMMUNITY COMES TO MIND FOR YOU FIRST, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE WAY IT LOOKS? SO IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT REMINDS PEOPLE OF LAGO VISTA, WHETHER WHAT IT IS NOW OR WHAT IT COULD BE. SO, AND I WANT TO BRING MISSISSIPPI INTO THIS. BUT IF YOU KNOW MADISON, MISSISSIPPI, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS MADISON AS A STANDARD. THERE'S NO QUESTION. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IF YOU DON'T LOOK THEM UP. BUT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF STANDARD OF. 
          THERE'S NO QUESTION WHAT WE DO HERE. SO EVEN LIKE YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER, MAY HAVE BEEN YOU I APOLOGIZE WHEN YOU MENTIONED HOW THE WOULD SIGN. IT'S A METAL SIGN. IT'S A SO AND SO. SO PEOPLE KIND OF SEE THAT AS IT'S WHATEVER HERE. THAT IS MY EXACT POINT. PEOPLE KNOW NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ALMOST DIDN'T LET WALMART GO TO MADISON BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T FOLLOW THEIR, THEIR, THEIR DESIGN METRICS. SO EVERYTHING'S THE SAME COLOR. YOU DO IT OR YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T COME HERE. SO THEY EVEN GET, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT MAJOR COMPANIES TO CHANGE THEIR, THEIR GUIDELINES, THEIR OWN GUIDELINES TO COME THERE. SO THAT CARRIES A LOT MORE VALUE THAN SOME PEOPLE REALIZE. THAT'S ALL. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. WELL, IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE WHATABURGER IS MAROON AND COLLEGE STATION. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY SAID IT'S MAROON OR Y'ALL AND THEY KNEW THEY MISSED OUT. OH, AND I APOLOGIZE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU MENTIONED JUST THE, OH, THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WHERE IF THEY WERE WILLING TO PARTNER, THEY COULD PUT IN MATCH FUNDS FOR GRANTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CAN'T GET BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MATCH FUNDING. SO THAT COULD BE A PARTNERSHIP. AND I MEAN, THEY HAVE JUST AS MANY ASSETS. SO THE SIGNS WILL HELP THEM TOO. 
          SO COULD THE MATCH FUNDING COME FROM THE HOT FUNDS? I THINK SO NOT DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY. IT TO AN EXTENT. I MEAN IT IS KIND OF ONE OF THE SAME BUT STILL SEPARATE. THERE'S SOME CAVEATS AND PERCENTAGES THAT GO INTO HOW WE USE HOT FUNDS. BUT YES, SO THEN WE'RE ON A TIMELINE. 
          CORRECT. MISS. MISS NORMA, TO GET THAT INTO A BUDGETARY ITEM BEFORE THE BUDGET GETS SEALED. 
          OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN YOU HAVE. I'M, I JUST WANT TO PUT A SENSE OF URGENCY INTO THIS. AND AS TO WHENEVER THE GRANTS ARE MADE AVAILABLE AND WHEN THEY ARE APPROVED. BUT YES, IN IN REGARD TO ANY CITY FUNDING, BUT A PROJECT LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD BE. FINALIZED AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL. BUT WHERE THE CDC HAS A LOT OF POWER IS TWOFOLD. ONE, IN THE RECOMMENDATION, ESPECIALLY AS IT GOES TOWARD BUDGETING AND THE AND THE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT A COHESIVE DESIGN TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, BRAND FOR THE CITY. 
          THE SECOND PIECE OF IT IS, IS, IS THE EDC'S OWN FUNDRAISING INITIATIVES, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE STILL LEARNING WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO. THAT IS OVER TIME WITH. WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE A 501 C THREE OR NOT, WHICH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING AHEAD AND PURSUING. AND, YOU KNOW, SO JUST WHAT OUR GUARDRAILS ARE. BUT ONCE FOUND, THEN WE IF WE ALREADY HAVE PROJECTS ONLINE, THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AT. YOU'RE NOT CONSTRAINED BY THE CITY BUDGET. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, IN OUR INFANCY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE BUDGET CYCLES, RIGHT? OKAY. SO. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US HIJACK YOUR PRESENTATION FOR IS MORE OF A DIALOG RIGHT NOW. WELL, ON THAT NOTE FOR HOUSEKEEPING, NORMA, SHOULD I READ IN DISCUSSION NUMBER TWO BECAUSE IT'S TURNING INTO A DISCUSSION OR IS IT STILL FINE UNDER PRESENTATION? I THINK. I WOULD READ IT IN, BUT I THINK WE WE GOT TO MOVE ON TO. SO TRAVIS HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. SO WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING TO. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. YES, YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION. YOU CAN READ THAT IN. OKAY. WELL. IT IS THE NEXT SECTION. SO IT'S MORE FOR US NOW DISCUSSION AND 
          [IV.1. Consider, discuss, and take action on NSP wayfinding proposal.]
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POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. SO WE'LL START FROM NUMBER ONE. CONSIDER DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON NSP WAYFINDING PROPOSAL. AN ITEM THAT I HAVE FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD UP HERE. DO WE HAVE ANY OF US DISCUSSED OR FIGURED OUT A TYPE OF. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM CITY STAFF ON. OR THE REVERSE OF THAT, WHAT CITY STAFF NEEDS FROM US TO ACTUALLY MAKE A COHERENT DECISION HERE? I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THIS, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF DAWN HAD TIME TO REACH OUT TO THE POA. I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS A COUPLE WEEKS BACK. IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFO. 
          NO, THE SITUATION IS IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP A WORK PLAN WHERE WE ACTUALLY SAY DIVIDE UP TO DIVIDE UP THE THINGS AMONG US, TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON. SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE GROUP WORKS ON WORKING WITH, LET'S SAY THE PO BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PO AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE ALL NEED TO PULL TOGETHER RATHER THAN HAVING SEPARATE DISPARATE PARTS OF OUR AREA. I REMEMBER, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I'M SURE, ERIC, YOU REMEMBER YOUR FIRST MEETING WITH THE WITH THE EDC QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, YOU CAME IN AND WERE ENTHUSIASTICALLY TALKING ABOUT OUR THE SELLING POINTS THAT WE HAVE HERE, THE, THE ACCESS TO LAKE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE REALIZED, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE THAT BELONGS TO SOMEBODY ELSE. AND IT WAS MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE HAVE. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER TO FORM BOTH A CITIZEN'S COMMITTEE IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR EDC TO TO WORK, SIT DOWN AND WORK WITH THE, THE PO SO THAT WE HAVE A, A COMMON GOAL TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA. THE SAYING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THEIR PERMISSION TO COMBINE IN DIFFERENT COLORS AS AS JORDAN JUST MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS BELONGS TO THE PO, BUT IT'S A PART OF US AND THIS BELONGS TO THE CITY, BUT IT'S A PART OF US. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO, IN MY OPINION. ANOTHER IS, AS WE'VE TALKED IN, THIS GENTLEMAN JUST MENTIONED, THE THE CENTER OF LAGO VISTA. WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHETHER WE WANT TO DEVELOP A CENTER IN LAGO VISTA AND AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS. I, UNFORTUNATELY, HAD MET WITH JORDAN THE OTHER DAY, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AND THOSE ARE THOSE ARE PRIMARY THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BACKGROUND OF EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO LOOK FORWARD TO. SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PART OF OUR WORK PLAN, MAYBE A MISTAKEN. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE GLAD TO TO HELP WORK ON THE, THE PO THING. I DON'T HAVE ANY SECRETS, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE TWO ENTITIES THAT I THINK COULD PAVE THE WAY DIPLOMATICALLY TO WHERE WE COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO TAKE ON A SECTION OF THIS ENDEAVOR? I THINK WE, AS A GROUP, NEED TO FORMULATE A DECISION ON IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. NUMBER ONE, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE NEED TO PUT A MOTION IN AND SAY, YES, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TO TAKE ACTION. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEN WE GO IN AND MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS AND DO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND SPLIT OUT THE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH THIS, RIGHT? RATHER THAN JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AN ACTION PLAN TODAY. YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          RIGHT? BUT WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A MONTH AND A HALF TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST US POTENTIALLY, SO THAT WE COULD GET IT INTO THE BUDGET SO THAT THEN WE'VE GOT 12 MORE MONTHS TO FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING ELSE SO THAT WE'RE NOT KIND OF KICKING THAT CAN TO NEXT AUGUST. RIGHT. SO I THINK ONCE WE FIGURE THAT PIECE OUT, YES, THEN WE CAN KIND OF DIVVY THAT OUT. AND I THINK COLLECTIVELY, WHEN WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE ALL AT ONCE, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN NORMAL BECAUSE WE'RE ALL 
          [01:05:04]
RUNNING AROUND, THEN WE CAN KIND OF GET ALL THAT DIVVIED OUT AND SAY, HEY, OKAY, COOL. 
          THIS IS A REAL ACTION ITEM. WE'RE REALLY GOING FORWARD WITH THIS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A PROPOSAL OR THE MOTION TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAY THE WAYFINDING PROJECT, OR HOW DO WE DO THAT? YOU CAN, I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE THE CITY MANAGER HERE IF HE'S WILLING, IF YOU OR JORDAN HAVE ANY INPUT ON. OBVIOUSLY THE PRICE POINT WE SAW WAS MOSTLY SOFT COSTS, IF THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY IS INTENDING ON MOVING FORWARD ON ANYWAYS, BECAUSE THEN IT MAKES THIS VOTE A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE. SO YOU CAN ONLY SO COVID WAS A PRESENTATION, SO YOU CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT ONE. BUT NSP, YOU CAN TAKE ACTION ON THAT. BUT COVID WAS ONLY A PRESENTATION. I'M SO SORRY. WAS THIS TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES? THANK YOU. JUST TO FOLLOW UP THE THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINED SCOPE. WE HAVE ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS FLOATING IN THE ETHER. AND SO UNTIL WE NARROW DOWN THAT SCOPE AND FOCUS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT COST. WHAT WAS PRESENTED IS GENERALITIES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION JUST AT A STAFF LEVEL IS FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT ACTUAL SCOPE IS. AND THEN WE HAVE CONSULTANTS THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH MARKET AND JUST GENERALLY SEE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE. BUT LET'S NARROW IN AND REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THE OUTCOME SHOULD BE AND HOW FAR THE PROGRAM GOES. AND THEN I THINK WE GO FROM THERE BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT WITH THE SCOPE WE WANT, IT'S ONLY 20, IT'S ONLY 30, IT'S ONLY 40, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF EVERYTHING. AND SO THAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD JUST BE TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE SCOPE AND GET THAT, YOU KNOW, SETTLED. AND THEN FROM THERE, WE CAN MOVE WITH FIRMER NUMBERS THAT MAKE SENSE AND ARE PROBABLY MORE ACCURATE. WHAT'S THE BEST FORMAT FOR THAT PROCESS TO TAKE PLACE? SO IF WE, IF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WHITTLE DOWN THE SCOPE THAT WE WANT BID BY DESIGNER. IT'S HARD TO DO HERE IN 30S. ARE WE ABLE TO. WE CAN ALSO UTILIZE THE DISCUSSION BOARD FOR THAT AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THINGS THAT I COULD TAKE AWAY FROM THAT PRESENTATION. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT $80,000 KIND OF MORE OVERALL MASTER PLAN APPROACH SEEMED RIGHT. BUT THERE ARE THINGS, THERE'S NUANCE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WITH REGARDS TO THE PO AND. YEAH, JUST KIND OF THINKING THROUGH. YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED THROUGH THE PROCESS, LIKE WHAT IS THE DECISION MAKING FACTOR IN APPROVING DESIGN? DOES THAT INVOLVE MULTIPLE LIKE COMMUNITY MEETINGS? IS IT GOING TO LIKE, I THINK THAT IF WE CAN. I GUESS, DEFINE THAT BETTER ON LIKE WHAT THE STEPS FOR THEM BECAUSE HE KIND OF PRESENTED A GENERAL, LIKE WE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS AND DO THAT. IF IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD OR IF IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY COUNCIL OR ARE WE OPENING IT UP TO A SIX MONTH VOTING PERIOD FOR, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS TO VOTE ON? LIKE WE PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE SO THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT IN THEIR SCOPE OF WORK TOO. SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE IF THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD CREATE A CLOUD BASED DOCUMENT WHERE WE PUT THOUGHTS AND NOTES INTO LIKE WHAT WE THINK THAT SCOPE NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO HAVE THAT BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION AND NEGOTIATION OF WHAT THIS STUFF NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE. SO WE CAN REALLY LAND ON SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AGREE ON WITHOUT KNOWING THE BEST FORMAT FOR THAT CONVERSATION. WOULD THIS FULLY ENTAIL, LIKE CURRENT BUSINESS SIGNAGE OUT ON MAJOR ROADWAYS? I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT SCOPE OUT AS WELL. SO LIKE, IF WE WERE TO, IF WE WERE GOING TO GO OUT AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, COOL, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS STANDARD. WELL, NOW YOU'VE GOT AN ARRAY OF BUSINESSES OUT THERE THAT HAVE ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON SIGNAGE AND, AND BUILD UP. AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK BACK LOOK LIKE FOR DISCOUNTS FOR THEM TO HAVE TO REDO THAT? OR WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD OWN THAT PIECE OF, OF THE, OF THE PROJECT? IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL, NOW WE'VE GOT 150 DIFFERENT SIGNS THAT ARE OUT THERE. YEAH. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, MOST STANDARDS AREN'T RETROACTIVE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE WHAT'S EXISTING 
          [01:10:03]
TODAY. HOWEVER, AGAIN, IF WE INCENTIVIZE IT IN SOME WAY, THAT MAY BE THE OFFSET THAT THAT GETS PEOPLE TO SWITCH OVER. AND SO ALL OF THIS GOES INTO THE SCOPE FROM A FROM THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THINGS. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO FIGURE OUT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, HOW MUCH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT YOU WANT, INCLUDING SUBCOMMITTEES OR TASK FORCE OR, YOU KNOW, BOARD INVOLVEMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BECAUSE WHEN THEY PLAN A SCOPE OF WORK, THEY'LL TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND SAY, OKAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, 2 TO 6 ENGAGEMENT EVENTS OR HOWEVER LONG, AND THEY'LL BAKE THAT INTO THE, THE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT COST. THE ONLY CAVEAT I'LL SAY IS THE MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT YOU HAVE, THE MORE ROUNDS OF COMMENTS YOU ALLOW, THE MORE THINGS OF THAT NATURE YOUR COST IS GOING TO GO UP. 
          SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE PARTS OF PRIVATE PLANNING IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND HOW WE HANDLE THE RESULTS OF THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE COULD BE WORKING ON SOMETHING AND THEN THE PUBLIC SAYS, ABSOLUTELY NOT, THIS IS TRASH AND WE HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH. AND SO HOW MUCH WEIGHT IS PUT INTO THAT? PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CAN ALSO SHIFT THE SCOPE A LOT. AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY FIGURING OUT WHAT WHAT YOU WANT. AND WE'LL WE CAN MASSAGE IT OUT FROM THERE. YEAH. AND THAT, THAT IN MY MIND WOULD BE. I DON'T KNOW, SECONDARY. SO LIKE, YES, WE CAN DEFINE LIKE, OKAY, WE'LL HAVE NO MORE THAN FOUR, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO PUBLIC MEETINGS OR REVIEWS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK WE CAN DETERMINE THAT FAIRLY EASILY. THOSE ACTUAL REVIEWS AND WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE. THAT ALL HAPPENS AFTER WE, WE HIRE SOMEONE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT US WITH A HANDFUL OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES WE CAN GO. AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THE GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY OR FROM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF, OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN AT SOME POINT, WE WILL SIT DOWN TO THE STANDARD AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST DESIGNED AND IMPLEMENTATION FROM THERE. SO YEAH, I MEAN, THAT SEEMS PRETTY, PRETTY EASY TO ME. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN OFFICIAL GUIDELINE AS FAR AS WHAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE FOR CITY INPUT OR FOR PUBLIC INPUT. YOU KNOW, FOR THINGS LIKE LAND USE, PERMITTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE CAN BE LIKE A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC CONSULTATION. RIGHT? SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT APPLIES TO US IN THIS TYPE OF THING. I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET WHEN MAKING DECISIONS LIKE THIS, OR IF IT'S JUST UP TO US, OUR FEELING, IT'S UP TO THE SCOPE, IT'S UP TO THE APPROVED SCOPE OF WORK. AND SO AGAIN, IT, IT, THERE'S A LOT TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE HOW MUCH, HOW FAR DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE YOU GO IS REALLY UP TO THE SCOPE OF WORK AND WHATEVER IS AGREED UPON. AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, COSTS GO UP AND DOWN BASED OFF OF WHAT'S IN THAT SCOPE. AND WHEN YOU SAY SCOPE OF WORK, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN WORK FROM WHAT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL BUILDING AND IMPLEMENTATION TO AN EXTENT? SO THERE'S, THERE'S A PART THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO ANY CONSULTANT WE USE TO DO ANY KIND OF MASTER PLANNING. THEY HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, THE VISIONING, THE, THE PUBLIC INPUT, THE, THE MEETINGS, THE CONVERSATIONS AND ALL OF THAT WHICH TURNS INTO DESIGN, WHICH THEN CAN TURN INTO CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. AND SO ALL OF THOSE HAVE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THEM. IT MAY BE THAT AT LEAST AT FIRST, WE WANT THE MOST BASIC PACKAGE THAT WE CAN BUILD ON LATER ON. AND THAT'S OKAY IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION TO GO, I THINK WHAT IS THE END GOAL FOR RIGHT NOW IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT, AND THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO BACKFILL FROM THERE AS FAR AS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND. 
          ALL OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL. YEAH. WELL, I'M, I MEAN, I WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE TO TRY TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY TO GIVE US. YOU KNOW, A HOLISTIC APPROACH EVALUATING THE ENTIRE CITY, ALL THE ALL THE EXISTING SIGNAGE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TO DATE IS LIKE NO MORE PIECEMEAL. WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO APPROACH THIS. AND SO, I MEAN, IF THE WAY I'M SEEING IT IS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HIRING THE DESIGNER SIDE OF THINGS TO GET US TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AND SO IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JOHN, I THINK WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO, 
          [01:15:04]
TO MAKE THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD? AND WHETHER IT BE THE THE QUOTE UNQUOTE PROPOSAL, DO WE NEED TO SEEK ACTUAL PROPOSALS LIKE SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IDENTIFY FINAL SCOPE, SEEK ACTUAL PROPOSALS. DO WE HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PROPOSALS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? OR IS THERE SOMEBODY IN PARTICULAR THAT THESE FOLKS THAT WE ARE SEEKING TO WORK WITH? SO WE DID A GENERAL SERVICES RFQ ON THAT LIST. WE HAVE FIVE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, FIVE PLANNING FIRMS, AND FIVE LANDSCAPE OR NOT LANDSCAPE, ACTUAL ARCHITECTURE FIRMS. AND SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WHEN A SCOPE IS DECIDED, GO DOWN THAT LIST OF FIVE AND ASK FOR PROPOSALS. WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE. THAT'S ILLEGAL. BUT GIVEN WHAT WE SEE, WE CAN SEE WHO FITS BEST WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHO CAN DELIVER. 
          AND FROM THERE, WE CAN PICK FROM THOSE FIVE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OUT TO BID. I DON'T THINK THIS PROJECT WOULD SUPERSEDE ANY PROCUREMENT LAWS. YEAH, IT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR RFP. AND SO THAT THAT SIDE OF IT HAS BEEN SITUATED, AGAIN, WE'RE I THINK THE BIGGEST HURDLE IS THE SCOPE. 
          OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN HERE. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SEEKING A. THE CONSULTING TO CREATE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE CITY, A RECOMMENDATION GOING TO CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE STEP ONE. AND WHAT COULD BE IN THAT RECOMMENDATION IS ASKING COUNCIL NUMBER ONE IF THEY'D LIKE TO PROCEED. AND TWO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WOULD ENTERTAIN A BUDGET. THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS THAT Y'ALL COULD CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO GO AHEAD AND PULL SOME INITIAL IDEAS OR SCOPE TOGETHER, WHEN I MEAN BY THAT IS THREE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION HERE TO CREATE THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. AND SO I WILL BE REPORTING ON CITY COUNCIL THIS THURSDAY ABOUT THIS MEETING, AND THAT YOU ALL HAVE INTEREST IN TERMS OF HELPING TO PULL THE TOWN TOGETHER IN THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS AND TO BE EXPECTING A RECOMMENDATION COMING FORWARD. ONCE THAT PROCESS IS HAPPENING, THEN WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL ACTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING AND THAT JORDAN HAS BEEN ADVISING ON. YEAH, I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, BUT ALSO IF WE'RE OPEN TO MAKING A MOTION, I KNOW JUSTIN'S NOT HERE AND WE MIGHT WE HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON NOT HERE TODAY. WE JUST NEED A MAJORITY. YES. RIGHT. HE'S HAVING SURGERY. SO EVERYBODY KEEPING HIS PRAYERS. 
          AND SO REALLY ANYONE ON THE DAIS OR EVEN ONLINE DAIS CAN MAKE A MOTION AND ANOTHER MEMBER WOULD MAKE A SECOND, Y'ALL WOULD VOTE ON IT, AND THEN YOU PROCEED. AND THEN WE DETERMINE WHO WOULD BE PART OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. OR ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL? FIRST RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ONE MOTION, AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE ANOTHER. OKAY. SO WHERE DOES THE THE PROPOSAL PIECE OF THIS COME INTO THIS, WHICH IS WHERE WE START COUPLE, I THINK A COUPLE OF STEPS DOWN THE ROAD AFTER. 
          OKAY. SO THE ACTION ON IT RIGHT NOW WOULD BE EITHER SAYING, HEY, COUNCIL, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA OR LET'S GATHER SOME MORE CITIZENS TO DO SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY SOFT COSTS SO WE DON'T INCUR THEM LATER. IF IF DON ALREADY HAS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS HE KNOWS THAT REALLY HAVE SOME SAY ON THIS, WE CAN COME PREPARED BEFORE THAT, OR WE CAN JUST MOVE THIS BALL ALONG. COOL. IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE'S TWO POSSIBLE MOTIONS. DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOVE? DO IT I GUESS I WASN'T SURE IF THE SECRETARY NEEDS TO START OFF, BUT YEAH, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PURSUING. 
          PROPOSALS FOR THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE NEED TO FIND WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE. SO YEAH, I SECOND THAT. TAKE ACTION ON THAT. NO. YEAH. THIS THIS ITEM IS ON SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NSP WAYFINDING PROPOSAL. OKAY. SO THE ACTION COULD BE IF YOU TELL ME THE WAY YOUR AGENDA ITEM READS, YOU CAN ONLY TAKE ACTION ON THE, ON THE WAYFINDING PROPOSAL. OKAY. ACCEPTED OR DENIED, ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL OR DENY IT. THAT WAS THE ONE FROM THE GUY THAT WAS HERE. NO, THAT 
          [01:20:03]
WAS ONE FROM THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS ONE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I MISSED. THAT'S WHY I'M SO CONFUSED. MAYOR PRO TEM OWEN CAN TAKE THAT BACK IN HER REPORTS TO COUNCIL. SO I DON'T THINK WE EVEN NEED A MOTION, A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT. SHE DOES THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING ANYWAY. OKAY. WELL, THEN I, I GUESS SO THEN WE WOULD JUST NEED TO MOVE THIS PROPOSAL ACTION ITEM TO AFTER WE'VE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. AND THEN I GUESS WE NEED TO MAKE A NEW AGENDA ITEM AFTER THAT. OR TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS TO START THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR IT AND THE OTHER. RIGHT. SO NEXT MEETING WE COME IN, WE WOULD HAVE AT THE AT THE NEXT MEETING YOU WOULD MAKE HAVE THOSE MAKE THE DECISION ON THOSE DECISION I WILL BE BRINGING. YOU ALSO DO HAVE THE THE, THE DISCUSSION BOARD FOR YOU ALL TO GO AHEAD AND START THE CONVERSATIONS FOR WHICH I CAN POINT THE CITY COUNCIL TO SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WHICH YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT. 
          OKAY. BUT IN REGARD TO THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, YES, THE CITY MANAGER IS CORRECT. ALL OF THIS IS UNDER THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE. BUT WHAT THIS HAS LED TO IS THAT Y'ALL NEED DESIGN STANDARDS TO BE ABLE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD ON EITHER OF THESE ITEMS. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, THEN WOULD IT BE SUFFICIENT TO MOVE THAT WE JUST TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL COUNCIL CAN RETURN TO US? THAT WAS A VERY HORRIBLE WAY OF PRESENTING A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL FURTHER COUNCIL. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. DO YOU SECOND THAT? YES. I DO THOSE IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. THANKS. MOVING ON TO NUMBER TWO. 
          [IV.2. Consider, discuss, and take action on upcoming grants.]
WE'LL BE CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON UPCOMING GRANTS. SHE'S HAD TO MOVE BUT SHE'S HAD TO MOVE ON FROM HERE. DOES ANYONE ELSE NEED THE LIST OF GRANTS THAT SHE HAD PULLED UP? I CAN PULL THEM UP ON MY COMPUTER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I'LL SAY AGAIN, THE EDC DOES NOT HAVE FUNDING ON ITS OWN. THIS WOULD BE A. AM I RIGHT ON THAT? THIS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. CHARLES. CORRECT. IN TERMS OF THESE GRANTS AND AGAIN, THIS DISCUSSION SHE WILL BE PRESENTING ON THURSDAY. SO I WOULD BE RELAYING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT Y'ALL MAKE HERE TODAY. SO IS THAT THE ONLY THE GRANTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE MATCHING OR ANY GRANT, ANY OF THEM ACTUALLY STAFF CAN DEPLOY IF THERE IS NO MATCHING FUNDS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CHARLES. YES. SO CHARLES AND ERIC ACTUALLY CAN DEPLOY ON ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL RECOMMEND. IF THERE IS ANY OTHER. BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS. IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD PUT AS A HIGH PRIORITY. AND THE SAME FOR FUTURE GRANTS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, AGAIN, SETTING ASIDE MATCHING FUNDS, ETC. FOR FUTURE GRANTS. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY MORE OF WHICH ONES CAN WE TRULY GO FOR NOW WITHOUT WITHOUT MATT REQUIRED MATCHING FUNDING THAT WE COULD LEGITIMATELY PUT IN TO PLACE THAT THEY COULD GO FOR, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY IF, IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF MATCHING REQUIRED. SO I DON'T HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME. IT'S. CAN WE ASK RECOMMENDATION FROM MISS BRITTANY WHICH ONES WE SHOULD. 
          KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE. I DIDN'T MAKE SURE THAT THE ONES I PUT FOR JULY DON'T REQUIRE ANY MATCH. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. YEAH, ALL OF THESE ONES DON'T REQUIRE A MATCH. SO EVERYTHING WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR, THE ONLY THING WE WOULD REALLY NEED TO HAVE WORK ON IS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE REGIONAL MEDIA. BUT I'LL HELP WITH THAT. 
          BUT YOU GUYS ARE GOOD. SHOULD BE GOOD. CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, OKAY. IS THERE ANY REASON NOT 
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TO PURSUE ALL OF THEM OR I MEAN, I THIS IS SPEAKING FROM NOT HAVING. READ THE FINE PRINT ON ANY OF THESE. SO WE DON'T SINCE YOU MENTIONED LIKE THE BEAUTIFICATION PERFECTLY FINE TO IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH IN MIND AS WELL. OKAY, THOSE ARE JUST ME THINKING OF PAST CONVERSATIONS AND ITEMS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. WE'D LIKE TO GET FUNDED, BUT AGAIN, CAN ADD THAT TO THE LIST. AND IF THAT'S A, A STRONG APPLICATION BASED ON WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT FUNDS IN THAT CASE FOR THAT INSTEAD, NORMALLY YOU JUST EMAILED US THE NEWER VERSION OF HER DOCUMENTATION, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S JUST GOT MORE DETAILS THAT I WAS READING TO. ALL I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT AT THE SAME TIME, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME NO. WELL, IF Y'ALL WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT, WE'VE GOT TIME FOR ALL OF THEM. I'D RATHER NOT KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FURTHER, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING AT IT FURTHER. I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THEM BEFORE WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THESE FIT ON A LOT OF THE IDEAS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT DOING. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANY COHESIVE PLANS YET. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL PRESENTATIONS PREPARED TO SEND TO THESE PEOPLE. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE ABLE TO HELP US WITH OR. YEAH, AND I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW IT WAS PULLED UP EARLIER. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT. I KIND OF TRIED TO PUT SOME VISUALS TOGETHER MORE THAN ANYTHING, MAINLY ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU GUYS, BUT ALSO SO THAT WAY THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SEE. SAME THING, BUT WE HAVE IN MIND ESSENTIALLY. AND IT'S NOT JUST WORDS TO TRY TO PUT HARD DATA WITH EVERYTHING, BUT ALSO VISUAL SO THEY CAN SEE LIKE NOW IT IS LITERALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A DIRT TRAIL THAT NEEDS TO BE SMOOTHED OUT OUTSIDE OR BEING EXPANDED UPON. BUT WE'D ALSO LIKE TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE OR PUT INTO THE TOURISM PART. A LOT OF THE LIKE. AND THE FLOWERS THERE. I TALKED TO JUSTIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. IF WE DID SIGNAGE ABOUT THE LOCAL ANIMALS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AND THAT COULD EVEN BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LIKE THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE C6 CAN, BUT I KNOW A 501 C3 COULD HAVE A CAMPAIGN TO WHERE IF YOU GUYS WANT LOCAL BUSINESSES TO PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE SIGNS, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR BUSINESS NAME ON THERE AND THEY COULD PAY FOR THE COST OF HAVING LIKE THOSE SIGNS ALL TOO. SO JUST THINKING OF ALL THOSE DIFFERENT WAYS TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THE WANTS. YEAH, I DON'T PERSONALLY AND ANYONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO GO AFTER ALL OF THESE. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE REALLY NARROWED IT DOWN TO THINGS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE CLAIMED TO WANT SOMETIMES, OR SOMETHING YOU CAN APPLY FOR. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PAST APPLICATIONS AND THEY'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THEM FUNDING THESE THINGS LIKE THAT, NOT THE BEST USE ANYWAY. I WON'T SAY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO APPLY FOR SOMETHING WAY OFF OF THEIR USUAL SCALE, SURE. BUT SO IF I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE NO, AND I TELL YOU THAT AND WHY. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU PREFER, THAT'S FINE TOO. JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL SEE HOW IT COMPARES TO PAST APPLICATIONS THEY FUNDED. 
          YEAH. SO. I GUESS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE ARE FOR SPECIFIC USES. THE RURAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE. SAYS STRONG CAPACITY BUILDING OPPORTUNITY BUT REQUIRES ELIGIBLE INTERMEDIARY. YEAH, I THINK I WENT THROUGH THAT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE. JUST THE FYI FOR THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR, YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE TO PARTNER WITH A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS USUALLY JUST A REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION, AND I'LL SHARE THAT. I CAN HELP FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION. AND 90% OF THE TIME, AS LONG AS IT'S A SHARED GOAL OF THEIRS, LITERALLY IN THEIR MISSION AND VISION THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD. I KNOW YOU'RE CONNECTING WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES AT THE START OF THIS YEAR, SO I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT WHAT HOW THEY'D BE WILLING TO HELP, WHETHER THAT WAS JUST A LETTER OF SUPPORT. SO WHEN THE TIME CAME, WE WEREN'T MISSING TOO MUCH AND MISSING GRANTS WOULDN'T SAY YES OR NO. OKAY, I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          IT WAS A CHAMBER. IT MAY HAVE BEEN AN AWESOME CHAMBER. FOR EXAMPLE, HE MENTIONED THAT HE WOULD GIVE ME A YES OR A NO DEPENDING ON THE APPLICATION, BECAUSE IF IT DIDN'T COINCIDE WITH THEIR FOCUS, THEN IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE OR SOMETHING THAT THAT'S A LEGITIMATE REASON TO NOT, BUT TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF, OKAY, WE'RE APPLYING FOR THIS. HERE'S WHAT IT IS. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO A LETTER, YES OR NO AT THAT POINT IN TIME? BUT JUST TO THROW THAT OUT THERE, OKAY. SO USUALLY IT'S A IF IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE FOR THEM, THEN THEY WOULDN'T. BUT WE'D ALSO STILL TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE WE ALREADY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION. AND THERE'S A WAY WE CAN CHANGE THE NARRATIVE TO WHERE IT BENEFITS THEM JUST AS MUCH. YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE WILLING TO TALK TO. OKAY. SO IF WE IF WE APPROVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THESE, I GUESS THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE DETERMINING WHAT THOSE SCOPES OF WORK ASSOCIATED TO THE AWARDED FUNDS WOULD BE. THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING TOO MANY DIFFERENT POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND 
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TIMELINES IN ORDER TO EXECUTE THEM. ARE THESE ARE THESE GRANTS ALL PRETTY OPEN ENDED OR ARE THEY HAVE A CERTAIN TIMELINE IN WHICH THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED? DOUBLE. 
          I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. I KNOW TWO OF THOSE ACCEPT APPLICATIONS ON A ROLLING BASIS. SO THE DEADLINE WILL JUST BE WHENEVER THEY APPROVE. AND FOR MOST, IF IT'S ON A ROLLING BASIS, LET'S SAY WE APPLIED FOR JULY. THEY USUALLY HAVE LIKE A THREE MONTH WINDOW BEFORE THEY TELL YOU YES OR NO, AND IT WILL START THE FOLLOWING MONTH, BUT IT'S USUALLY A YEAR MINIMUM FOR BIGGER PROJECTS. IT'S 2 OR 3 YEARS, LIKE IF THERE WAS A FEDERAL GRANT, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT A YEAR FOR ANY SIZE GRANTS. JUST AN IDEA. BUT AND I APOLOGIZE, DO WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT EACH OF THESE WOULD, WHAT PROJECTS WOULD WOULD GO TOWARDS, LIKE WHAT WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE IN THE OTHER DOCUMENTATION? OH, THERE'S PROBABLY MORE DETAILED ON THAT FIRST VERSION. THAT WAS OKAY. OKAY. SO YEAH, I THINK IF I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE, THEN I'M. SO WOULD WE HAVE TO ONCE WE GET THOSE ROLLING, WOULD WE NEED A SUBCOMMITTEE TO SIT AND KIND OF ROLL ALL THAT STUFF OUT AND REALLY KIND OF GET IT ALL HAPPENING? OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD MEET WITH HER ON THE SIDE TO KIND OF GET EVERYTHING OUT? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO SET IT IN HERE TO DO THIS. SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY DEFINED AND KIND OF ON THEIR WAY. AND SO FOR, LET'S SAY, WERE THEY INTERSECT IN TERMS OF THE EDC. THOUGHTS IN REGARD TO DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN AND STANDARDS OR, YOU KNOW, REGARD TO THE PARK, THERE MAY NOT BE WITHIN THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN LEARNING IS WHERE DO SOME OF THESE GRANTS FIT? BECAUSE SOME OF THESE CROSSOVER ACTUALLY TO P RAC AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, SOME OF IT WITH THE CIVIC CENTER, GOES ALL THE WAY UP, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION. AND SO MOST OF THESE, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IS REALLY, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I HOPE I'M NOT OVERSTEPPING. 
          CHARLES, KEEP ME OUT OF TROUBLE. IS THAT Y'ALL BEGIN TO GET FAMILIAR WITH GRANTS AND WHAT INFORMATION IS BEING PROVIDED AND HOW THE EDC FITS IN THAT. IN TERMS OF WHAT Y'ALL STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES ARE. AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE WORK PLAN. THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, LIKE I SAID, IS WE'RE KIND OF ONE EXPOSING Y'ALL TO THE GRANTS. NUMBER TWO, SEEING IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL SAW THAT WOULD PUT A STOP TO THIS AND THEN SHE'LL BE BRINGING IT TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. OKAY. AND REALLY, THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKERS RIGHT NOW ARE ERIC AND CHARLES. OKAY, OKAY. AND I'LL ADD A LITTLE TIDBIT OF IN REFERENCE TO KIND OF DETERMINING WHAT EXACTLY THE WORK PLAN WOULD BE. USUALLY WHEN I DRAFT THE APPLICATION, I'LL JUST SEND YOU BACK TO YOU GUYS TO SAY YES OR NO OR CHANGE THIS. SO THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SAY MAYBE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF TIME WILL BE ADDED TO STAFF AND WHAT DEPARTMENTS, ETC. IS A REALISTIC FOR PLANNING TO HAVE THIS ADDED TO THEIR TO DO LIST OR NOT? MAYBE YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AT THAT POINT AND SAY, OKAY, IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO WORK IT WITH THE WORD WOULD INCLUDE PLANNING SO MUCH OR IT COULD BE OUTSOURCED, OR DO WE JUST FIND ANOTHER APPROACH? BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M JUST LIKE YES OR NO TO THIS APPROACH. AND THEN ONCE WE SAY YES OR NO, IF THE APPLICATION, THE ACTUAL NARRATIVE AND PLAN TO PUT IT INTO PLACE IS LIKE NOT A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW, TIMELINE WISE, OR FOR THESE PERSONNEL TO GIVE THIS AMOUNT OF TIME, THEN THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO STILL SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SUBMITTED YET. WE STILL MODIFY IT OR CALL IT A DAY IF IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST NOT WORTH THE HASSLE, YOU KNOW, COULD BE A $5,000 GRANT. AND IT'S LIKE, Y'ALL HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT A SMALL GROUP MAY NOT BE THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION AGAIN, FOR ANY STAFF. AND THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS IN HERE THAT MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER. HOW MUCH IS THE DISCUSSION BOARD USED ON YOUR END? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PLANS THAT PARKS AND REC ALREADY HAS. 
          THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN OVERLAP WITH WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING. THERE'S PLANS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ALREADY EXIST. IS THAT IS IT REALISTIC TO EXPECT ANY CITY STAFF TO BE ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD, OR SHOULD WE TRY TO SET UP SOME TIME TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE? SO WE DON'T REINVENT THE WHEEL. PARKS AND REC. OH YEAH. SO IF I CAN TAKE A SHOT AT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION, YES, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE CITY IS THROUGH MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS TRYING TO GET THEIR HEAD WRAPPED AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FIRST? WHAT ARE WE FOCUSING FUNDING? PART OF THAT IS THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE'VE 
          [01:35:05]
BEEN GOING THROUGH NOW FOR TWO PLUS YEARS. BUT THAT SAID. DAVID, IS AN INTERFACE FOR PARKS AND REC. OF COURSE, ERIC IS WITH THE EDC AND ERNEST IS WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY HAVE CREATED STRATEGIC PLANS THEMSELVES, I THINK. DIDN'T DAVID GO AHEAD AND PUT TOGETHER THEIR PRIORITIES INTO A. AT LEAST I KNEW IT WAS OF LAST YEAR. YEAH. 
          SO AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PARKS MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, THAT'S CHANGING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE YOU GO. SO SHOULD WE GET ANY ONE OF THESE GRANTS OR FUNDING. THIS WOULD GO INTO THE EDC BANK ACCOUNT TO SIT FOR US TO MOVE AND THEN FUND SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON DIRECTLY. I'M WHICH OF THESE ARE FOR THE CITY? THIS WOULD BE THROUGH THE CITY. YES, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GEAR UP FOR THE EDC TO ALSO BE A ONE OF THE ENTITIES THAT WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE GRANT FUNDING IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUCKET OF FUNDS. A LOT OF TIMES, A LOT OF NON-PROFITS, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE C THREE VERSUS THE C SIX, C SIX HAS A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANT. THE C6 IS MORE LIKE A BUSINESS SUPPORT OR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ENTITY THAN LIKE A, I GUESS, CALL FUNDRAISER FUNDRAISING ORGANIZATION. BUT MY POINT IS, THERE'S A DIFFERENT BUCKET OF MONEY FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ABOUT ONE C THREE. SO WE CAN APPLY FOR BOTH DIFFERENT. 
          WAS THAT SO? SO WHY DO WE NEED EDC TO PUT THIS FORWARD? REALLY, REALLY. IT'S JUST A WELL, PART OF THIS IS A LEARNING PROCESS FOR YOU GUYS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST REVIEWING IT. AND THE OTHER IS, IS IF THERE WAS ANYTHING IN HERE THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY FELT STRONGLY AGAINST, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COUNCIL TO KNOW. IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT MOST OF THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, OKAY, TO AT LEAST MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT A VENUE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS OR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND THE CITY, THEN THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. I JUST DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT THESE ARE ONES THAT CITY STAFF HAS LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY, OR THEY WOULDN'T BE COMING FORWARD TO US. RIGHT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT AND GET FUNDING BEHIND. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I PROPOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING THIS ACTION ON AS MANY OF THESE AS WE CAN THAT DON'T REQUIRE MATCHING FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET THESE ROLLING. WE CAN GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE CAN LEARN THROUGH THIS. YEAH. AS WE GET MORE ESTABLISHED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET IN AND, AND START DOING OTHER FUNDING FOR OURSELVES AS WELL. SO IS THAT THE FOUR THAT WE SAW IN THE LAST DOCUMENT YOU SENT THROUGH, OR IS THERE FIVE? OKAY, OKAY. THERE'S FIVE. I DIDN'T LIST IT AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND DOCUMENT. I REALIZED THAT, OKAY, GOTCHA. I SECOND THE MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURSUIT OF THOSE GRANTS. THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN BEFORE OR AFTER COUNCIL, IF Y'ALL ARE LIKE FOR Y'ALL'S GOALS IS ORGANIZATION COULD BE INCLUDE MORE OF A, B, C, OR D, RIGHT? A SMALL PIECE OF CONVERSATION ON IT. I THINK YOUR OTHER DOCUMENT DID HAVE IT, BUT SOME SORT OF ESTIMATE ON STAFF TIME COST, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO JUST INUNDATE STAFF WITH UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. YEAH. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY I DID THAT SECOND ONE AFTER NORM WAS MAKING THAT POINT OF OUTSIDE OF MATCHES REQUIRED, WHAT ELSE WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM THE CITY OR ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, SHE, SHE HAD OURS KIND OF LISTED IN THERE IN THE SPECIFICALLY. YEAH, I APOLOGIZE, I HADN'T SEEN THAT ONE. NO, NO, SHE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH IT. YEAH. I DIDN'T SEE IT SPECIFICALLY. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THOSE HOURS WERE FOR ANY OF THEM. BUT WE HAD A ESSENTIALLY FOR EACH WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THAT ALL IN FAVOR? A ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO NUMBER 
          [IV.3. Discussion on updates and follow-up from EDC subcommittee.]
THREE DISCUSSION AND ON UPDATES AND FOLLOW UP FROM EDC SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH. THIS ONE WAS PUSHED BACK. SHOULD HAVE BEEN LAST TIME. DON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO JUMP IN? I DO HAVE A LITTLE RECAP. I HAD WRITTEN UP FROM OUR MEETING AT THE CHAMBER. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD FROM THIS ONE? NO, I THINK THAT YOUR YOUR NOTES ARE ARE BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT. MY APOLOGIES. NOW I HAVE TO FIND THEM. OKAY, I DO YOU REMEMBER 
          [01:40:09]
DON? DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT DAY WE MET? I KNOW IT'S BEEN A MINUTE NOW. LET ME LOOK. 
          TROUBLE IS, IS TIME GOES BY AND YOU GET. APPROXIMATELY MAY 26TH, MAY 26TH ISH. OKAY, WELL, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WE HAD DISCUSSED THE NEED FOR A BALANCED DEVELOPMENT IN LARGO, EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF A TOWN CENTER ON DON DRIVE. WE ALSO WENT OVER THE CHALLENGES FROM THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. THE HOA IS INCLUDED AND ANY OF THE POTENTIALS FOR EMINENT DOMAIN TO UNLOCK LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S SEVERAL CORRIDORS. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE DON DRIVE ASPECT FOR THE CITY CENTER. WE ALSO NOTED THE NEED FOR INCREASED COMMERCIAL DENSITY TO REDUCE THE RESIDENTIAL TAX BURDEN. LARGO IS VERY, VERY YOUNG AND HAS VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL TAX CURRENTLY. WE REVIEWED PAST PROJECTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN NEW BRAUNFELS AND LOCKHART, WHICH JUST FURTHER STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY INPUT AND TRANSPARENCY. A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S A FEAR AND A BOOGEYMAN ASPECT OF, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DESIGN MY CITY AROUND? AND I THINK LAGO VISTA HAS THE BENEFIT OF BEING VERY VERBAL BENEFIT AND DETRIMENT, AND WE CAN REALLY LEAN INTO THAT. THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WE DID PLAN TO ENGAGE FURTHER OTHER EDCS AND EXPLORE MORE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, LIKE THE GRANTS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. ANYTHING TO SUPPORT THAT VISION FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. JUST IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE. HERE. WE DISCUSSED POTENTIAL LAND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, SOME OF WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE GOVERNMENT LAND OWNED BY THE CITY. IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROGRAM TIED TO IT, LEVERAGING SCHOOL DISTRICT LAND TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY VALUE AND POTENTIALLY INVOLVE OTHER IDEAS WITH LAND SWAPS, THERE'S BASICALLY IT FELT LIKE THE BEGINNINGS OF CONVERSATIONS BECOMING COHERENT. IT'S CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAD FOR A LONG TIME. AND I KNOW DON CAN STEP IN AND BRING UP. HE HAS A LOT MORE HISTORY AND TENURE ON THIS THAN I DO, BUT IT WAS GOOD TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THIS BEFORE AND KNOWS THE DIRECTION TO ADD VALUE THROUGH ACTUAL PLANNING EXERCISES AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THE RIGHT DEVELOPERS AND RIGHT BUSINESSES HERE INTO LAGO. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I'M FORGETTING, DON? NO, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY CORRECT. AND AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT THAT WE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE POSSIBILITIES OF DEVELOPING A TOWN CENTER AND THAT SORT OF THING. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PHYSICAL LAYOUTS OF CERTAIN PLATS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK ALL OF THAT CAN BE RESOLVED NOT EASILY, BUT EVENTUALLY. AND YEAH, IT'S I THINK THAT THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO STUDY THE SITUATION AND COME BACK TO US WITH MORE WITH MORE INFORMATION. AND IT LOOKED VERY ENCOURAGING. I THINK WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL CONVENTION CENTER ON THE LAKE, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THE FLUME WOULD BE NICE. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA. BUT WE CAN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES. I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. IF YOU DON'T, THEN I WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER FOUR. YEAH, WE PAUSE FOR TWO SECONDS. SO WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE GRANT FUNDING WE'VE WE'VE APPROVED FOR THE NON MATCH FUNDING. COULD NORMA, COULD YOU GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND FIND OUT HOW MUCH MATCH FUNDING THE CITY WOULD. BE OKAY WITH BEFORE WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC MATCH FUNDING GRANTS SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST OVER HERE SAYING, ALL RIGHT, HEY, HERE'S $1 MILLION GRANT, SPECIFICALLY THE HOT FUNDS TO HOW MUCH? SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND ON OUR SIDE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, HOW MUCH THAT MATCH FUNDING WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO GET ONE OF THOSE GRANTS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A MORE EDUCATED DECISION ON. SO THE MATCH FUNDING IS WELL OVER A BUDGET THAT WE SHOULDN'T EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO. WELL, THEN WE CAN PUSH THAT 
          [01:45:02]
DOWN THE ROAD TO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE AND SAY, OKAY, COOL, LET'S GET THIS ON THE NEXT BUDGET FOR THE CITY SO THAT THEY CAN POTENTIALLY SAY YES AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET FOR THE CITY, THEN THERE'S NO POINT IN US THROWING MATCH FUNDING GRANT AT THE CITY TO EVEN LOOK AT BE A WASTE OF TIME, RIGHT? SO HISTORICALLY, I BELIEVE ERIC DIDN'T START OFF WITH, I WANT TO SAY 25 OR 50 000. IT HAD GOTTEN TO 100 000 AND MATCH FUNDING. OKAY. BUT IN TERMS OF WHERE WE AS A CITY WERE IN TERMS OF FOCUSING ON PROJECTS AND STUFF, WE WEREN'T READY TO UTILIZE THAT. SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA AND I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU ALL IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT PROBABLY IN, LIKE I SAID, IN THE PAST, HISTORICALLY, IT WAS 50 TO $100,000. I THINK MORE RECENTLY, CHARLES WASN'T THAT PULLED INTO AN OVERALL CITY MATCHING FUND. SO IT WENT FROM SPECIFICALLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATCHING INTO OVERALL CITY. SO WE COULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AT THIS TIME. SO IT TYPICALLY ANYWHERE. GRANTS ARE ASKING TYPICALLY AROUND 20 TO 50%, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF GRANT, ETC. YOU KNOW, SO 20% OF, YOU KNOW, A 5000, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF GRANT WOULD NOT BE OUT OF REALM FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN COME ACROSS FROM BRITTANY. OKAY. SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD. YES. SO AGAIN, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU GUYS IN TERMS OF, SO THEN CAN WE CHANGE THAT RECOMMENDATION SINCE THE ONES THAT SHE'S PUT FORWARD THAT WOULD REQUIRE MATCH FUNDING FIT INTO THE ABILITY OF THE CITY? IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD AND MATCH, YOU'RE GOING FROM THE EDC SUBCOMMITTEE, GO AHEAD AND READ IN NUMBER FOUR. 
          CONSIDER DISCUSSING ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR EDC. THEN THAT WAY Y'ALL CAN 
          [IV.4. Consider, discuss, and take action on potential funding sources for the EDC.]
CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. OH, TO MOVE ON TO NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, AND TAKE ACTION ON POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE EDC. AS WE WERE SAYING. AND SO WHAT I HEAR IS THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADDING SOME MATCHING FUNDS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR THE EDC TO LOOK AT WHEN LOOKING AT POTENTIAL GRANTS FOR PROJECTS. OKAY, I JUST NEED TO KNOW DIRECTION IN TERMS OF, YEAH, THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED, RIGHT? IT'S JUST DIRECTION. I WOULD ALSO THROW IN THERE TO SAY JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE WANT TO SPEND EVERYTHING ON ONE PROJECT LIKE THE WAYFINDING. SO IF THERE IS ANY AMOUNT OF THAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN LOOKED AT OF, HEY, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS MUCH AND WE WILL NOT HAVE MORE THAN X AMOUNT TO MATCH FROM FUNDS. THAT WOULD BE USEFUL INFORMATION. I WOULD ADD IN THAT. SO I HAVE HAD MY FIRST ROUND MEETING OF BUDGET WITH MR. WES. I'M SCHEDULED TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE. I'D HAVE NOT PUT ANY EFFORT BECAUSE I THINK JOHN IS ASKING ABOUT EDC SPECIFICALLY, NOT CITY MATCHING FUNDS. CORRECT FOR THE EDC MATCHING. WELL, WITH THIS ROUND OF OF GRANTS SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD NOT BE FOR THE EDC WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THE CITY. SO NO, IT WOULDN'T BE EDC FUNDING. 
          WE DON'T KNOW. I GUESS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF CITY FUNDING THAT WOULD GO BEHIND THE GRANTS, NOT THROUGH THE EDC YET. I'M NOT REQUESTED ANY MATCHING FUNDS IN EDC BUDGET. SO. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO START WITH LIKE A $50,000 RECOMMENDATION OR SOMETHING. I FEEL LIKE I'M STEPPING OVER THE LINE. NO, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION FOR LIKE TO US TO UNDERSTAND, OKAY, WHERE, WHERE SHOULD WE PUT THAT LINE? THIS ISN'T A NEGOTIATION, RIGHT? IT'S JUST, HEY, HOW CAN WE HELP GET THIS? LIKE GET EVERYTHING MOVING? AND, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN SITTING BEHIND ENTIRELY ALL OF THESE PLANS. RIGHT? SO. 
          HOW MUCH FUNDING SHOULD WE BE ASKING FOR TO ADD VALUE SUPPORT TO THE CITY WITH THE FUNDING? 
          [01:50:03]
WE CAN WE CAN START AT THE ASK FOR 50. BUT WITH THE THE KNOWLEDGE OF IF YOU ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND, DON'T HESITATE TO LET US KNOW. I WILL JUST SAY THAT THE CITY HAS A LOT OF. HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS ON THEIR PLATE. YEAH, BUT WHAT THIS DOES DO IS BEGIN THE CONVERSATION. YEAH. IF THE FUNDING BANDWIDTH IS THERE TO SET ASIDE BECAUSE THE MONEYS DON'T GET SPENT UNLESS WE RECEIVE GRANT DOLLARS IN. YEAH, THEY REMAIN IN A FUND, WHICH IS WHAT HAD HAPPENED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THERE WERE ALLOCATED FUNDS. BUT AT LEAST IT GIVES YOU SOMETHING TO BEGIN TO TARGET AND FOR US TO DISCUSS GOING FORWARD AS YOU ALL WORK ON YOUR WORK PLANS AND STRATEGIC PLANS AND SPECIFICALLY ON PROJECTS, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MORE COME ABOUT IN REGARD TO. HOW Y'ALL LOOK TO SEEK FUNDING YOURSELF AND THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TARGET, THEN THINGS WILL BECOME MUCH CLEARER. YEAH. SO AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF EARLY IN THE PROCESS, PROBABLY WON'T GET THE SEA LEGS UNTIL THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. WELL, THIS IS ONE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON TODAY, RIGHT. I MEAN THIS IS MORE DISCUSSION POINT. YEAH, YEAH. SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN MOVE ON. OKAY. NUMBER FIVE CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON EDC 2026 TO 
          [IV.5. Consider, discuss, and take action on EDC 2026-2027 workplan.]
2027 WORK PLAN. AND I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE SUGGESTION OF, I KNOW THE DISCUSSION BOARD IS LIKE ASKING EVERYONE TO GET A NEW FACEBOOK AND WATCH. YET ANOTHER THING WITH NEW NOTIFICATIONS. BUT SINCE WE ARE NOW AN OFFICIAL EDC, WE CAN'T JUST TEXT, YOU KNOW, THREE OF US AT A TIME, FOUR OF US AT A TIME, PERIODICALLY CHECKING IN. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO DISCUSS. HAVING A HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE USE OF THAT TOOL BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY BEEN USED YET. YEAH, I'VE NEVER BEEN ON IT. I CAN LOOK INTO GETTING ON THERE. ALSO. STAN CAN HELP. IF I HAD A HORRIBLE TIME GETTING INTO IT, I HAD TO COME DOWN HERE AND GET HIM TO FIX IT FOR ME. OKAY. AND I'M NOT EXACTLY COMPUTER ILLITERATE. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE WORK PLAN? THUS FAR I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN MUCH DOCUMENTATION. IF THERE WAS ANY THAT ALREADY EXISTED. THERE ARE PAST PLANS. 
          IN FACT, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PLANS WHEN I WAS ON EDC IS ACTUALLY STILL ON THE WEBSITE TO GIVE Y'ALL AN IDEA. AGAIN, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE SOME THINGS BEFORE YOU THAT COULD REALLY. 
          HELP Y'ALL TO FOCUS IN, BUT IT WOULD BE PART OF IT IS JUST JUST STRATEGIC PLANNING OR STRATEGIC DISCUSSION FOR WHICH YOU COULD USE THE DISCUSSION BOARD. I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER, ERIC, MYSELF, IF ANY ONE OF US ARE MADE AWARE THAT THERE'S CONVERSATIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE PLACED ON THE DISCUSSION BOARD, THEN AS STAFF LIAISON, ERIC WOULD BE YOUR YOUR FIRST PERSON, HE COULD SEND IT OUT TO THE REST OF THE. THE EDC COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO GO LOOK AT IT. CHARLES DOES THAT QUITE OFTEN FOR CITY COUNCIL. WE JUST LET HIM KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE AND THAT HE SENDS A NOTE OUT TO THE REST OF COUNCIL. IF WE HAVE A SINGLE ITEM LEFT. APPROVAL OF THE. MAY 12TH, 2026 EDC REGULAR 
          [IV.6. Approval of the May 12, 2026, EDC regular meeting minutes.]
MEETING MINUTES. IF. HAS ANYONE HAD TIME TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT? I KNOW THAT THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN PUSHED BACK, AND IF WE HAVE TO TABLE IT TO ACTUALLY GET TIME TO LOOK AT IT IS OKAY. 
          BUT IF EVERYONE HAS REVIEWED IT, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION ON WHETHER IT WAS GOOD OR NOT. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE IT. I SUGGEST WE TABLE THIS ITEM. I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY, SO IS IT SOMETHING WE COULD SEND TO YOU TO SEND OUT, OR HOW WOULD. 
          YOU SEND THE PACKAGE? IT'S BEEN IN THE PACKET THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, SO I WISH WE WOULD TAKE ACTION ON IT, REALLY. BUT I GUESS FOR ANOTHER MEETING, I MEAN, I, I ACTUALLY TRUE, I 
          [01:55:06]
JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS LOOKED AT IT, BUT I GUESS IF YOU WERE TRUSTING IT TO BE GOOD, I COULD RETRACT MY MOTION BECAUSE I THINK EVEN LAST MEETING, YOU DID SOME EDITS AND IT WAS REAL GOOD THAT YOU KIND OF CLEANED IT UP. I THINK IT'S FINE. OKAY, WELL, THAT SOUNDS LIKE I MIGHT HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT. I NOW MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 12TH EDC MEETING. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. DON. ALL IN FAVOR? HI, HI. HI. OKAY. 
          ABSTAINED. SO WE HAVE I DIDN'T SEE THEM. SO YOU GOT THE MAJORITY. FOUR YESES. I'M RUNNING LATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.