Sep 17, 2026 City Council

[I. CALL TO ORDER, CALL OF ROLL]

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P.M. I'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE LAGO VISTA CITY COUNCIL. WE WILL NOW CONVENE AN

[II. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

ATTORNEY CLIENT ADVICE IS NECESSARY. ITEM TWO CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074 TO DISCUSS INTERIM CITY MANAGER ASSIGNMENTS AND DUTIES. ITEM THREE CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST AND THE PROPOSED SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE NORTH LAKE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND VISITOR CENTER. I HAVE ALL MY COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE. COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU INTEND TO SPEAK ABOUT BACK IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH. MAYOR, THE AGENDA ITEM TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO PNC. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 416. WE'RE NOW COMING BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. I HAVE ALL MY COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE. AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE ITEMS. ITEM ONE

[III. ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS (action and/or vote may be taken on the following agenda items):]

SO WE ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS. AND THEN WITH REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, THERE WERE THERE'S A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION ON INTERIM CITY MANAGER TURNER AND KIND OF WHERE HE'S AT AND, AND, AND HIS UPDATE TO YOU ON HIS EFFORTS IN WORK IN THE CITY. AND THEN THERE WERE LEGAL QUESTIONS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. THERE WERE LEGAL QUESTIONS RELATED TO FUNDING REQUESTS AND REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS RELATED TO THE NORTH LAKE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND I ANSWER THOSE LEGAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL ON ITEM ONE. IS THERE ANY ACTION TAKEN? MAY.

NO. ACTION ITEM TWO CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.074 TO DISCUSS INTERIM CITY MANAGER ASSIGNMENTS AND DUTIES. ANY ACTION TAKEN, MAYOR? NO ACTION. ITEM THREE CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071 LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS AND THE PROPOSED SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE NORTH LAKE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND VISITOR CENTER.

ANY ACTION TAKEN. MAYOR? I BELIEVE ON THIS ONE THAT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION THAT IS WISHED TO BE CONVEYED HERE ON THE DAIS. YES, MAYOR, IF I IF I MAY, THIS WITH RESPECT TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND AND REIMBURSEMENT ON HOT FUNDS, COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THAT THE CHAMBER HAS PROVIDED POUNDS OF DATA ON EXPENSES. BUT REALLY THE ISSUE AS AS SUMMARIZED FOR US BY OUR ATTORNEY, COMES DOWN TO DEMONSTRATION OF IMPACTING HEADS AND BEDS. AND SO TO DATE, THE CITY HAS NOT SEEN ANY DATA FROM THE CHAMBER TO SAY THAT ANY OF THESE EXPENSES HAVE RESULTED IN SOMEONE SPENDING THE NIGHT IN LAGO VISTA. AND UNDER STATE LAW, HOT FUNDS CANNOT BE DISPERSED UNLESS THAT'S DEMONSTRATED. AND AND AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE EFFORT NEEDS TO GO FROM THE CHAMBER IS ANY, ANY EXPENSES THAT CHAMBER IS LOOKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT ON NEED TO CLEARLY SHOW DEMONSTRATE THAT HEADS AND BEDS HAVE BEEN RESULTED FROM THAT ACTIVITY AND THOSE EXPENSES. AND THEN I THINK, MR. BULLOCK, IF I GOT THAT RIGHT, YOU CAN NOD. OR IF YOU WANT TO PARAPHRASE OR ADD TO THAT, PLEASE DO. MR. I THINK WHAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT TYPICALLY THE WAY THAT THAT INFORMATION IS DEMONSTRATED BY ANY ENTITY OR PERSON SEEKING PAYMENT OR REIMBURSEMENT OF

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WHETHER OR NOT THAT VISITOR IS STAYING OVERNIGHT AND WHERE LODGING REFERRALS FROM HOTELS OR STRS, PLUS TRACKING OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS INDIVIDUAL IS FROM SURVEYS THAT THE REQUESTER PUTS OUT TO LOCAL HOTELS OR STRS WHERE THEY INDICATE, YOU KNOW, YES, WE WERE IN SPENT THE NIGHT IN LAGO VISTA FOR THIS EVENT, RIGHT. AND THEN THE SPLIT OF EITHER SPACE, PHYSICAL SPACE AT A VISITOR CENTER, OR TIME SPENT BY STAFF ON THESE EVENT, THESE ACTIVITIES THAT RESULT IN OVERNIGHT STAYS. AND THEN AND THEN VISITOR CENTER VISITOR CENTERS PROVIDE BUDGETS TO COUNCILS IN WRITING BEFORE THE YEAR STARTS. AND THEN OF COURSE, COUNCILS HAVE REVIEW AUTHORITY AND AUDIT AUTHORITY OVER THOSE, BECAUSE THESE ARE TAXPAYER FUNDS THAT ARE BEING USED THAT THE STATE, NOT THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA, BUT THE STATE PLACES LIMITATIONS UPON HOW THEY MAY BE SPENT. SO THAT'S HOW ENTITIES DEMONSTRATE ELIGIBILITY FOR FUNDS. THANK YOU. AND THEN I'LL JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'D BE CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL THAT THE BUSINESSES IN LAGO VISTA ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US. AND, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY, UNFORTUNATELY, THE RULES AROUND HOT FUND DISTRIBUTION MAKE IT SUCH THAT WE CAN'T JUST USE HOT, HOT FUND DOLLARS LOOSELY TO PAY FOR A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DILEMMA THAT WE'RE, WE'RE FACING HERE. MR. BENNEFIELD, I WOULD SIMPLY ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHAMBER HAS WHAT I WOULD SAY THREE OPPORTUNITIES TO RECEIVE FUNDING, OBVIOUSLY JUST DISCUSSED WAS THE HOT FUNDS, THE RECEIPTS SUBMITTED TO DATE, ACCORDING TO OUR ATTORNEY, HAS NOT MET THE THRESHOLD OF THE HEADS AND BEDS. THAT'S WHY THOSE HAVE BEEN DECLINED. BUT I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL THAT WE RECEIVED WAS THAT THOSE RECEIPTS COULD BE RESUBMITTED WITH NEW DATA, AND AN APPROVAL COULD BE ASCERTAINED. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. IF THERE'S A LINKAGE BETWEEN EXPENDITURES AND HEADS AND BEDS, THEN THEN YOU, AS THE BODY WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT REIMBURSEMENT. SO THE FIRST PRONG SEEMS TO APPLY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE RECEIPTS ARE ONE CATEGORY, MEANING VISITOR CENTER, BUT IT'S THE SECOND PRONG HEADS AND BEDS WHICH ARE NOT BEING MET. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS YOUR OPERATING AGREEMENT. YOU KNOW, A YEAR LATER, WE STILL DON'T HAVE AN OPERATING AGREEMENT THAT THAT AGREEMENT WOULD BE. THE SECOND THRESHOLD, I WOULD SAY IS SO IMPORTANT IS IF WE CAN HAVE AN OPERATING AGREEMENT, THEN ANY AMBIGUITY ON WHAT CAN OR CANNOT OR SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE REIMBURSED GOES AWAY WITH THAT OPERATING AGREEMENT. SOMETHING I WAS UNAWARE OF WALKING INTO TODAY IS THERE'S A THIRD OPTION, WHICH IS ALSO A SERVICE AGREEMENT. AND MR. BULLOCK CAN PERHAPS OPINE A LITTLE BIT ON THIS. BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS THAT A SERVICE AGREEMENT COULD BE FUNDS THAT ARE FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR HOT FUNDS, SO THAT IF THE CHAMBER IS PERFORMING A LEGITIMATE SERVICE TO OUR BUSINESSES OR TO THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT HOT QUALIFIED, THOSE THINGS COULD GO INTO A SERVICE AGREEMENT. IS THAT. YES, SIR. THE THE, THE, THE LIMITATIONS ON HOT FUNDS. THERE'S GOT TO BE THAT TWO STEP LINKAGE. BUT BUT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SERVICE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY WOULD ENTER INTO WITH ANY OTHER ENTITY THAT PROVIDES A, YOU KNOW, A PERFORMS A PUBLIC SERVICE OR A PUBLIC, THERE'S A PUBLIC USE OR SO FORTH. YOU CAN ENTER INTO A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH, WITH AN ENTITY TO DO THAT, JUST LIKE AN OUTSIDE CVB. THERE'S STILL ACCOUNTING REQUIREMENTS THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE HOT QUALIFYING. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO IF I WAS GIVING ADVICE TO THE CHAMBER, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I WOULD SAY, GO BACK TO YOUR RECEIPTS. FIND ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO SUBSTANTIATE THOSE RECEIPTS, TO HAVE QUALIFYING HEADS AND BEDS. I WOULD WORK ON MY OPERATING AGREEMENT AND SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS OR INTEREST IN SOME LEVEL OF SERVICE AGREEMENT. AND I THINK THOSE THREE PRONGS WOULD DEFINITELY PUT THE CHAMBER IN A BETTER SITUATION THAN PERHAPS THEY ARE TODAY. MISS MEADOWS. AND JUST TO KIND OF TACK ON TO COUNCILOR

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MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU MAYOR. YES, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE ENTITIES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EXPLORE WAS, WHAT DO WE IN LARGO WANT TO HAVE IN REGARD TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? AND ARE THERE SOME GOALS? BECAUSE WITHIN THAT FUNCTION, IT BECOMES VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT EACH ENTITY BRINGS TO THE TABLE AND WHAT THEIR DELIVERABLES ARE. AND THEN I BELIEVE,E POSITION, BUT I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE CONVERSATION TODAY. THANK YOU, MR. HALL. AND I JUST TO ADD ONE, ONE MORE NOTE TO ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH I SUPPORT, IS THAT FOR OUR BUSINESSES ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US HERE. WE USE THEM. WE NEED THOSE TO BE PROMOTED TO OUR CITIZENS SO THAT THEY USE THEM. DON'T GO ELSEWHERE FOR SERVICES THAT OUR BUSINESSES HERE COULD PROVIDE, AND THAT THE SALES TAX REVENUE THAT THOSE GENERATE ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. AND SO, SO WE, WE DO HAVE SOME MUTUAL INTERESTS AND CONCERNS AND SOME NEEDS THAT IT WILL BE A USEFUL PART TO DISCUSS WITH THE CHAMBER, POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW THAT MIGHT WORK IN SUPPORT OF THOSE ACTIVITIES. ALL RIGHT. I DID HAVE A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION, MR. BENEFIELD AND MR. PRINCE, I GUESS PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A PROPOSED SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE NORTH LAKE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. DID IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON WHERE IS THAT GOING? THE CHAMBER HAS SENT BACK RED LINES. WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION BACK HERE. WHERE ARE WE AT ON. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE OTHER OPTION THAT YOU PROVIDED OF SERVICE AGREEMENT IS A CONTINUATION OF DISCUSSION, OR IS THAT A BRAND NEW DISCUSSION? I WOULD LOOK AT IT AS TWO, TWO, TWO AGREEMENTS. YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPERATING AGREEMENT. I GOT THE IMPRESSION FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT THERE WAS CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL. I THINK THERE WAS IT WAS A FOUR THREE CONSENSUS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE VISITOR CENTER REIMBURSED TO SOME DEGREE. AND THAT, TO ME WOULD LOOK LIKE A WELL WRITTEN OPERATING AGREEMENTS. AND THE ISSUE THERE IS THAT THERE JUST IS NONSTARTERS IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE BEING SENT FROM THE CHAMBER. WE'VE SENT GOOD AGREEMENTS TO THEM, TEMPLATES, IF YOU WILL, THAT HAVE WORKED WELL IN OTHER CITIES. BUT THERE'S BEING THERE'S ADDITIONS BEING ADDED TO THAT CONTRACT THAT JUST ARE NOT CAN'T HAPPEN, LIKE GUARANTEEING CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF MONEY UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. AND JUST ANY WAY YOU CAN GET WITH, YOU KNOW, BRAD ON THOSE SPECIFICS. SO I WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE AN OPERATING AGREEMENT THERE FOR ANY KIND OF VISITOR FUNDS. AND, AND THEN I GUESS THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A CONSENSUS OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S INTEREST IN A SERVICE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS PROVIDING GENERAL FUNDS FOR GENERAL SERVICES, WHICH SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES OR OTHER. ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU GAVE A VERY NICE SOLILOQUY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT EVENTS AND HOW THEY CAN'T ALL BE FUNDED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT, BUT I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL, VERY WELL SAID. YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN. WELL, I JUST SO THAT BECAUSE IT'S NEW INFORMATION FOR ME AND I, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW MYSELF THAT THE BEST THE CITY CAN, CAN DO IN TERMS OF PROVIDING HOT FUNDING FOR A SPECIAL EVENT IS, IS UP TO 50% OF THE EXPENSES. SO I THINK THE, I UNDERSTAND THE CHAMBER'S IS, IS CHALLENGED TO COVER THE FULL COST OF THE EVENT WHEN THEY'RE ONLY AT BEST BEING GIVEN FUNDING FOR HALF THE EXPENSES. AND SO, SO THERE, THERE IS THAT KIND OF IMPACT

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HAPPY TO SHARE THAT. AND IF THAT INFORMATION CAN BE BROUGHT FORWARD, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, LET YOU ALL ULTIMATELY, Y'ALL ARE DECISION MAKERS ON THAT ON ANY OF THOSE DECISIONS. I'VE ALSO GOT SEVERAL. I'VE GOT ITERATIONS OF THE, THE AGREEMENT THAT MY FIRM HAS ENTERED INTO WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, CITIES. AND, YOU KNOW, WE REPRESENT THE CITY WITH OTHER CHAMBERS. I'VE GOT SOME THAT HAVE THAT ARE ON OTHER CITIES THAT ARE JUST ONLINE, THAT WE DON'T REPRESENT THAT, THAT THEY ALL LOOK SIMILAR. HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY OF THOSE TO THE CHAMBERS ATTORNEY AND JUST KIND OF SEE, THIS IS WHAT THEY GENERALLY LOOK LIKE. BUT, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION TO Y'ALL IS GOING TO BE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADOPT SOMETHING, YOU ADOPT SOMETHING THAT GENERALLY LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THESE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE DONE WITH EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE US TEXAS FLAG, AND THEN STAY STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH

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PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION. LET US PRAY. GRACIOUS AND LOVING GOD, WE GATHER THIS DAY MINDFUL OF THE PRIVILEGE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF SERVING THE PEOPLE OF LAGO VISTA. WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON OUR MAYOR, THE MEMBERS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL, OUR CITY STAFF, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND ALL WHO WORK EACH DAY FOR THE GOOD OF THIS COMMUNITY. GIVE THEM WISDOM IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS. PATIENCE WHEN THERE IS DISAGREEMENT, COURAGE AND DIFFICULT DECISIONS, AND ALWAYS A SPIRIT OF RESPECT AND CONCERN FOR ONE ANOTHER. TODAY, OUR HEARTS ARE ESPECIALLY HEAVY AS OUR COMMUNITY MOURNS THE TRAGIC DEATH OF ONE OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, CASHTON CACHE VALLEY. WE PRAY FOR CASH'S FAMILY IN THEIR UNIMAGINABLE GRIEF.

SURROUND THEM WITH LOVE AND CONSOLATION. BE NEAR TO HIS FRIENDS AND CLASSMATES, HIS TEACHERS, AND ALL THE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES OF LAGO VISTA WHO HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY HIS DEATH.

WE ALSO REMEMBER THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND OTHERS WHO CAME TO HIS AID. GRANT THEM PEACE AND STRENGTH IN THE DIFFICULT WORK THEY ARE CALLED TO DO. MAY THIS TRAGEDY REMIND US HOW PRECIOUS AND HOW FRAGILE LIFE IS. HELP US TO WATCH OVER ONE ANOTHER, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, AND GIVE US WISDOM TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY A PLACE WHERE THEY MAY GROW, LEARN AND LIVE IN SAFETY. IN MOMENTS OF SORROW. DRAW US CLOSER TOGETHER. MAY LAGO VISTA ALWAYS BE A COMMUNITY MARKED NOT SIMPLY BY THE BEAUTY OF THE PLACE IN WHICH WE LIVE, BUT BY COMPASSION, KINDNESS, RESPONSIBILITY, AND CARE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. BLESS THE WORK UNDERTAKEN HERE TODAY AND GUIDE ALL THAT WE DO TOWARD THE COMMON GOOD. IN YOUR LOVING, LOVING NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU FATHER. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO CITIZEN

[VI. CITIZEN COMMENTS]

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN CITIZENS COULD ACCESS MGO AND SEE WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE. AND I KNOW EVERYBODY UP HERE. I'VE HEARD EVERYBODY CONSISTENTLY ADVOCATE FOR TRANSPARENCY, AND I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT, AND CONSIDER GIVING DIRECTION, DECIDING IF YOU WANT TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THEM, TO DIRECT NGO TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO CITIZENS AGAIN, FOR WHICH IT HAS NOT BEEN ACCESSIBLE FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. THAT'S ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, I HAVE MR. MICHAEL REINBOLD. HELLO AGAIN. I WAS UP LAST WEEK REMINDING YOU ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A BRIDGE CONTRACT FOR SERVICES FROM ME TO PROVIDE GRANT POSSIBILITIES FOR THE CITY, ALIGN WITH THE NEEDS OF THE CITY. I HAVE A TEAM TOGETHER THAT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF INVESTIGATING THE POSSIBILITIES. I THINK THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING IT WITH MR. TURNER NEXT WEEK. TO TRY AND COME TO SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'M ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE

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SEPARATE CONTROLS, SEPARATE EVERYTHING. BUT IN DOING THAT, WE ALSO THOUGHT OF BUILDING WHAT'S CALLED A CHAMBER BRIDGE THAT WOULD BRIDGE THESE TWO ENTITIES BETWEEN EACH OTHER SO THAT THE CHAMBER COULD SUBMIT THEIR EXPENSES TO THIS CHAMBER BRIDGE. AND THE CHAMBER BRIDGE WOULD HELP WITH THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE EXPENSES SO THAT THEY'D BE ACCEPTABLE BY THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THAT OUR SOFTWARE COULD SIT IN BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND THE EDC AND THE CHAMBER TO HELP SMOOTH SOME OF THESE WHEELS THAT WE HAVE MOVING BETWEEN THEM THAT ARE REALLY DISCONNECTED RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, I HAVE MISS LISA SHAW. ARE YOU ONLINE? OKAY? WITH THAT? I HAVE NO OTHER CITIZEN COMMENTS. DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEMS THAT'S HERE? OKAY,

[IX.1. Public hearing to receive citizen comments and views regarding the proposed City of Lago Vista budget for fiscal year 2026-2027, commencing on October 1, 2026, and ending on September 30, 2027.]

I'M NOW GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM. WHAT DID WE LABEL IT. NINE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE CITIZEN COMMENTS AND VIEWS REGARDING THE PROPOSED CITY OF LAGO VISTA BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027, COMMENCING ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 AND ENDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, SUBSECTION A THE CITY PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.

COMPLIANCE. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.043 C ONE. A COPY OF THE CITY'S PROPOSED BUDGET MAY BE LOCATED IN THE CITY'S HOME PAGE OF ITS WEBSITE AND AT THE BUDGET WEBSITE, AND TWO TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE MEETING. VALID HOMESTEAD PROPERTY. A COMPARISON OF THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX BILL AND DOLLARS PERTAINING TO THE PROPERTY. THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR FISCAL YEAR 2526. AN ESTIMATE OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS ADOPTED FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 2627, AND AN ESTIMATE OF A BALANCED BUDGET AT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 2627. THE BREAKDOWN OF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. THE PROPOSED MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE IS AT 0.265525 PER $100, AND THE PROPOSED INTEREST RATE IS AT 0.186463, WHICH COMES OUT TO A COMBINED NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF 0.451988, THEN SUBSECTION B, THE CITY COUNCIL. THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA, TEXAS, WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE CITIZEN COMMENTS AND VIEWS REGARDING THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA, TEXAS, LEVYING AD VALOREM TAXES FOR USE IN SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 AND TERMINATING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, PROVIDING FOR APPORTIONING EACH LEVY FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES AND PROVIDING WHEN TAXES SHALL BECOME DUE AND WHEN SOME SHALL BECOME DELINQUENT. IF NOT PAID. WE WILL BEGIN WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO WITH THAT, I HAVE NICOLE TO PROVIDE THE STAFF PRESENTATION. ON. FOR THE TAX RATE IS WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING. CORRECT? THIS IS FOR BOTH. OKAY. WE'LL PULL. SO GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO THE BUDGET THAT IS PROPOSED AND IS IN YOUR PACKET AND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE HAS A TOTAL REVENUE. WE'RE TALKING ALL FUNDS. TOTAL REVENUE OF $30.73 MILLION. OUR BASE EXPENSES ARE $29.32 MILLION. AND THERE ARE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS OR MAJOR DECISION PACKAGES. THEY WERE CALLED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS THAT WOULD BRING THE ACTUAL FULLY FUNDED BASE EXPENSES TO $30.28 MILLION. CURRENTLY, THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS THE NO. NEW REVENUE RATE AT 0.451988. HERE IS A CHART THAT IS SHOWING OUR TOTAL REVENUE, AND IT IS SHOWING OUR REVENUE BY FUND. YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST PORTION IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM OUR GENERAL FUND AND THEN OUR UTILITY FUND. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE OUR DEBT SERVICE. GENERAL FUND AND DEBT SERVICE ARE PRIMARILY FUNDED BY THE PROPERTY TAXES. NEXT PRESENTATION IS REVENUE BY

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AGAIN THIS IS TOTAL REVENUE. SO WHEN WE SAY FEES CHARGE THIS IS ALSO UTILITY RATES BESIDES JUST OTHER RATES THAT FEES THAT WE CHARGE. HERE IS EXPENSES BY FUND. SO YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL FUND CONSUMES THE MAJORITY OF IT AT 46%. AND THEN OUR UTILITY IS BEHIND AT 29%.

OUR OTHER MAJOR FUNDS, WE HAVE THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS ONLY 5% OF THE BUDGET, AND OUR AVIATION, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT 1%. AND THEN AGAIN, SIMILAR OUR EXPENSES BY TYPE, PERSONNEL AND SERVICES, WHICH IS ALL OF OUR CITY STAFF, CONSUMES THE MAJORITY OF IT AT 38%. OUR NORMAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS IS AT 17%. AND THEN THE LARGER FIXED ASSETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BIGGER ONE TIME PURCHASES CURRENTLY IS GOING TO BE 21%. THE MAYOR JUST A COMMENT, NICOLE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THE TRANSFERS SHOW UP IN FIXED ASSETS HERE, RIGHT? SO THE, THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TRANSFER FROM THE UTILITY FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND, THE TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND TO THE TO THE GOLF COURSE ARE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT FIVE, ALMOST $6 MILLION IN FIXED ASSETS. YES. AND DOWN THE LINE, WE SHOW WHAT EACH OF THOSE TRANSFERS EQUATE TO. AGAIN, CONVERSATION ON THE PROPERTY TAX. CURRENTLY OUR PROPERTY TAX IS 0.42. WE ARE PROPOSING A RATE OF 0.451988, WHICH IS OUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE. THE ACTUAL VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH COUNCIL COULD GET UP TO IF THEY DECIDED PREVIOUSLY BEFORE WE GOT THIS FAR IN THE BUDGET, IS 0.554462. THAT GIVES US AN OH RATE OF 0.265525. SO NO, TO FUND ALL OF OUR DAILY OPERATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THEN THE INS RATE IS 0.186463, WHICH IS TO PAY ALL OF OUR DEBT SERVICE AND OUR OUTSTANDING BONDS. AND ONE MORE COMMENT. YOU SAID THAT THE GENERAL FUND IS PRIMARILY FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAX. I THINK WHEN I JUST FROM MEMORY, IT'S ABOUT 50% OF THE GENERAL FUND COMES FROM PROPERTY TAX. AND THEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER PLACES WHERE REVENUE COMES, LIKE THE 10.2 OR SO WAS, WAS THE PROPERTY TAX. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO JUST JUST FOR COUNCIL AND PUBLIC SAKE GENERAL FUND HAS OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME. THE PROPERTY TAX IS NOT SUFFICIENT. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS NEEDED THERE AS WELL. AGREED. AND THEN JUST THE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO READ THE NOTE YOU HAVE AT THE BOTTOM THERE ABOUT WHAT THIS ACTUALLY RAISES. SO MOVING OUR TAX RATE TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY RAISE A TOTAL OF 143, $182.44 THOUSAND. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OF THAT $222,186.10 ACTUALLY FROM NEW PROPERTY ADDED IN THE MOST RECENT TAX ROLL. SO HAD WE NOT HAD ALL OF THE NEW PROPERTY COME IN, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE RECEIVING LESS PROPERTY TAXES FOR OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND DEBT SERVICE AND EVERYTHING INTO OUR BANK. HERE'S A CHART THAT SHOWS YOU THE TAXABLE VALUE THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING SINCE 2021 IN LAGO VISTA. AND THEN THE ADOPTED TAX RATE. YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE DROPPED FROM 25 TO 26. SO THEN THE APPROVED TAX RATE OR PROPOSED TAX CURRENT TAX RATE IS GOING TO NEED TO RAISE A LITTLE BIT TO KEEP US LEVEL. SO NOW BY FUND GENERAL FUND, THE GENERAL FUND HAS $13.4 MILLION PROPOSED IN REVENUE. OUR BASE EXPENDITURES ARE 13.3 13 MILLION. AND THEN CURRENTLY WHAT WE HAVE IN HERE AS OUR EXPENDITURE CHANGE IS $238,000 FROM OUR 2026 TO 2027 IN THE GENERAL FUND. THAT REVENUE IS INCLUDING, AS MR. PRINCE STATED, THE TRANSFER. THERE IS A $1.6 MILLION TRANSFER FROM THE UTILITY FUND INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THE GENERAL FUND MAINLY SUPPORTS ADMINISTRATION, FINANCE, HR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, DISPATCH STREETS, PARKS AND REC, AQUATICS LIBRARY, AND A COUPLE OTHER CORE SERVICES. THE PRIMARY EXPENDITURE INCREASE THAT $238,000 IS PRIMARILY.

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VERANDA WALK LIFT STATION GENERATOR. THERE WILL BE TWO NEW TRUCKS PURCHASED, ONE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER AND A SKID STEER. PICKLEBALL COURTS WILL BE RESURFACED AND THERE IS A ONE TIME FEE FOR ASSISTING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, CLEANING AROUND OUR FACILITIES.

A QUESTION ON THIS FOR ERNEST, THOUGH, SINCE WE HAD THE MAJOR TRIDENT MAINTENANCE LISTED HERE FOR NEXT YEARS, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING ISSUES WITH IT, ARE THOSE FUNDS GOING TO BE COVERED OUT OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, OR ARE WE STILL ALLOCATING THE SAME FOR NEXT YEAR? THIS STILL THE SAME, BUT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. THE SITUATION IS EVOLVING RAPIDLY. I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS RIGHT NOW. DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATE, I GUESS, ON THAT? I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU LATER ON DEPARTMENT UPDATES. WE WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE CONTRACTOR THAT ACTUALLY INSTALLED IT. AND IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO COME EVALUATE THE, THE TRIDENT ITSELF. SO UNTIL THEN, WE'RE JUST STILL UNDER A REQUESTED VOLUNTARY. YES, SIR. YEAH. WHAT ARE WE TERMING THAT THE WATER CONSERVATION WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THOSE TOTALS TOTAL SUPPLEMENTAL REQUESTS ARE $963,704. THEN THE COUNCIL HAS ALSO GIVEN DIRECTION. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF SIX ITEMS THAT COUNCIL HAS ALSO SUGGESTED THAT THEY WILL APPROVE. HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT FULLY FUNDING. IT IS UP TO CITY STAFF TO FIND EFFICIENCIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAVINGS WITHIN OUR CURRENT BUDGET, AND THEN THESE POTENTIAL PROJECTS OR PURCHASES WOULD BE ALLOWED. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CREATING A NINE HOUR WORK DAY SHIFT. THEY ARE REQUESTING A ANOTHER SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AND THEN AN OFFICER FOR ANIMAL CONTROL. THAT COULD ALSO DOUBLE AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER WHEN NEEDED IN TIMES OF VACANCY OR PEOPLE BEING OUT SICK. IT IS NEEDING A SERVER AND DATA STORAGE REPLACEMENT. AND THEN THERE IS A BACKHOE AND A MINI EXCAVATOR THAT ARE WISHING TO BE PURCHASED. HERE ARE OUR MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THESE ARE ALL LISTED IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP. TOWARDS THE END OF THE BUDGET, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE YEAR 25 EXPENSE IS

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OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THIS IS OUR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE FOR OUR MAJOR FUNDS.

THE FIRST COLUMN, YOU WILL SEE WHAT WE WERE AT THE END OF OUR 25 AUDIT IN THE CENTER COLUMN IS ONCE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR ESTIMATED REVENUES AND EXPENSES, THAT'S WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE PER FUND. AND THEN ON THE FINAL RIGHT HAND COLUMN, THAT'S WHERE WE FEEL WE WILL BE.

WE ARE EXPECTING THE CITY WILL BE PER FUND AT THE END OF 26. AND THEN TO START OFF OUR NEW BUDGET FOR 27. IF I MAY MAKE SOME COMMENTS HERE. AND NICOLE AND I HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONTENT ON THESE SLIDES, AND I, I HAD ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD PUT IN FUND BALANCES IN HERE THINKING THE LOGIC FUNDS, BUT SHE DID THIS, WHICH I THINK IS A BETTER WAY TO LOOK AT IT INSTEAD. SO THE LOGIC FUNDS ARE ACTUALLY SORT OF LIKE, I MEAN, THOSE ARE OUR BANK ACCOUNTS.

BUT THIS IS THE WAY THE AUDITOR THINKS ABOUT FUNDS. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT GOLF, WHICH IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, RIGHT, IT SHOWS THE FY 25 AUDIT SHOWS THAT THE GOLF HAD A NET $522,000 OF VALUE IN THE GOLF FUND. WE KNOW THAT THE GOLF FUND IS IS REALLY RUN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO THE THE NUMBERS THAT SHOW UP IN GOLF HERE FROM AN AUDIT PERSPECTIVE IS HOW THE AUDITOR THINKS ABOUT IT. BUT THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT, GOLF AND AVIATION REALLY ARE PART OF THE VALUE UP IN GENERAL FUND. BUT, BUT THIS IS, IS REALLY A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE FROM AN THE WAY AN AUDITOR WOULD THINK ABOUT EACH OF THESE FUNDS. AND IT INCORPORATES ALL OF THE CASH THAT WE HAVE IN OUR IN OUR LOGIC FUNDS, BUT IT ALSO INCORPORATES OTHER SOME OTHER FACTORS. I DON'T BELIEVE IT INCLUDES ANY FIXED ASSETS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THIS WOULD NOT, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD NOT BE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE VALUE OF THE LAND AT THE GOLF COURSE. AGREED. BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS IS A BIG PICTURE OF WHERE WE ARE ON ON ACROSS OUR FUNDS. SO APPRECIATE NICOLE PUTTING THAT IN. YES. ARE THERE ARE THERE TRANSFER FUNDS INCLUDED IN THE GOLF AND AVIATION FUNDS AS YOU SEE THERE? THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE MORE OF A HIGHER NET POSITION IS BECAUSE WE COUNT IT AS REVENUE IN THOSE FUNDS. OKAY. RIGHT. EXACTLY. AND SO IF YOU GO BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS, EVERY YEAR, THE THE AUDITOR SAYS, OH, HOW MUCH MONEY WAS TRANSFERRED FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE GOLF FUND.

AND SO THE GOLF FUND GETS A CREDIT FOR THAT TRANSFER. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT A SEPARATE LOGIC FUND FOR GOLF WHERE THE MONEY IS SITTING. RIGHT. THIS FINAL SLIDE SPEAKS TO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AS WHAT THEY ASKED FOR STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATED FOR TRANSPARENCY AND BEING FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND A LITTLE BIT CLOSER WITH ANY TYPE OF REALLOCATING OF FUNDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THE CITY MANAGER, AS PER OUR CHARTER SECTION 8.06, THE CITY MANAGER MAY TRANSFER ENCUMBERED BALANCES AMONG PROGRAMS WITHIN A DEPARTMENT. THEN WE STATE THAT COUNCIL WHAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLAY, AND THIS CAN BE READ A LITTLE BIT DEEPER IN OUR ACTUAL TRANSMITTAL LETTER. THAT'S IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET. THIS IS KIND OF JUST HIGH POINTS. STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT COUNCIL NOW RECEIVE WRITTEN NOTIFICATION WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF ANY TIME THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS GIVING THAT AUTHORIZATION. SO ANY TIME THAT A DEPARTMENT HEAD COMES TO THE CITY MANAGER AND SAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS, OR I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE THIS, I HAVE SAVINGS IN MY BUDGET. THAT

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IN ADDITION TO THE NOTIFICATION OF INDIVIDUAL BUDGET TRANSFERS DESCRIBED ABOVE, QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORTS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE REPORT SHALL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY FINANCIAL ACTIVITY AND BUDGET STATUS FOR THE APPLICABLE QUARTER, INCLUDING REVENUES, EXPENDITURES, BUDGET TO ACTUAL COMPARISON, SIGNIFICANT VARIANCES AND ANY BUDGET TRANSFERS MADE DURING THE REPORTING PERIOD. QUARTERLY REPORTING IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE THE CITY COUNCIL WITH TIMELY INFORMATION REGARDING THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE ADOPTED BUDGET. THIS MAY BE A CHICKEN OR THE EGG QUESTION. THIS IS ACCOUNTING PRACTICE OF TRANSFERRING WITHIN AN ACCOUNT.

COULD A CITY MANAGER MAKE A PURCHASE PRIOR TO DOING ANY OF THIS AND THEN AFTERWARDS SAY, WELL, I HAD ALREADY, YOU KNOW, VISUALLY LOOKED I THOUGHT THERE WAS MONEY THERE. SO I BOUGHT

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MR. TURNER, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU WERE ADVISED, FOR EXAMPLE, OF A EXPENDITURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO OCCUR TO MAKE A REPAIR AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THE INTENT THAT I HAVE AND THE STAFF WORKING WITH ME TO DO IS ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE IT WAS AN EMERGENCY AND WE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO IMPEDE THE OPERATIONS OF THE PLANT. WE AUTHORIZED IT AS AN EMERGENCY PIECE. WE SENT SOMETHING OUT TO COUNCIL AND TOLD YOU THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO RATIFY THE DECISION BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO GO AHEAD AND INCUR THE CONTRACT. THOSE CASES SHOULD BE RARE BASED ON EMERGENCIES. I THINK THE MESSAGE THAT I HEAR FROM THIS POLICY IS TO MAKE SURE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, WE LET COUNCIL KNOW, AND THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PROCEDURES OF BRINGING THE ITEMS TO COUNCIL AS APPROPRIATE, BUT THAT WE MAKE SURE COUNCIL KNOWS WHEN THERE'S SOME DEVIATIONS, SIGNIFICANT DEVIATIONS FROM THE BUDGET. YEAH, I THINK SO. YEP.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS THEN. I HAVE MR. GENE HARRIS ON BOTH BUDGET AND TAX RATE. YEAH. THIS SHOULD BE SHORT. I'M JUST I'M OPPOSED TO MY PROPERTY TAXES GOING UP CONSTANTLY. KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF OWNING PROPERTY. IF YOU CAN BE TAXED RIGHT OUT OF IT. SO IT'S NOT REALLY MINE. I'M RENTING IT FOR MY PROPERTY TAXES EVERY YEAR. THIS IS NOT A NEW THEORY, NEW ARGUMENT. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THERE BE SOME CONCERTED EFFORT LOOKING AT WAYS TO REPLACE HAVING TO TAX THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, THEIR PROPERTY. AND MAYBE THAT'S WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX BECAUSE I GET IT. THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. THERE ARE SERVICES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THIS CITY RUNNING. BUT INCREASING THE TAX BURDEN ON PROPERTY TAXES IS NOT IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO GO. AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT OUR FOUNDERS WANTED WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT ENSHRINING PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE CONSTITUTION. WE SHOULDN'T BE WE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAX ANYBODY OUT OF THEIR HOME PROPERTY TAX, AD VALOREM TAX THAT IMPACTS PROPERTY. NONE OF THAT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. MR. VAUGHN. I HAVE A ALL ITEMS ONE FROM YOU. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE BUDGET ITEMS? NO. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT TURNED IN CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THESE BUDGET ITEMS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET OR THE TAX RATE OR ONLINE? HEARING NONE.

THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:08 P.M. AND I WILL NOW BRING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO COUNCIL. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU MAYOR. I DID WANT TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT THE EDC ASKED ME TO PUT FORWARD A PROPOSAL THAT HAD COME BEFORE THEM IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT HOW TO PACKAGE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCE, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN LAGO VISTA. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT IS A PLACEHOLDER FOR CONSIDERATION AND MAYBE TO PEEK A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION. IT WAS ABOUT $50,000 TO PUT ON A DECISION PACKAGE, JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER.

SO IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET ANYWHERE. I'M JUST LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW I BROUGHT IT FORWARD AT THIS TIME BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE RELEVANT IN REGARD TO FUTURE DISCUSSIONS FOR STRATEGY, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THE CITY, HOW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CAN AID THE 50,000 TO PACKAGE THE CITY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SAME FIRM DID FOR THE CITY OF SEGUIN, AND HOW THAT CAN THEN BRING IN VERY NEEDED DOLLARS IN AN EFFICIENT

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IT WAS A RUSHED BUDGET PROCESS, NOT THE IDEAL. I THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT THAT WE COULD, AND WE WERE ABLE TO STICK WITH THE NO NEW TAX RATE. AND I THINK WE'RE ABLE TO, IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, GIVE DELIBERATION TO SOME OF THE IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT STAFF WERE PROPOSING OR THAT CITY COUNCIL FELT WERE IMPORTANT. SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND NICOLE AND HER STAFF, ALL THE OTHER STAFF WHO WERE VERY RESPONSIVE ON THE DECISION PACKAGES AND HELPING US SUSS THROUGH THOSE AND UNDERSTAND THEM BETTER. AND ALSO THANK COUNCILOR PRINCE, MAYOR PRO TEM OWEN AND MAYOR PRO TEM OWEN SPOUSE, WHO DID A TON OF WORK JUST COLLABORATING TOGETHER, WORKING TOGETHER, AND PREPARING THE SPREADSHEET, THE BUDGET WORKBOOK THAT WAS SO HELPFUL FOR US TO LOOK AT, TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK IN MORE DETAIL. SO I REALLY THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE WORK UNDER VERY RUSHED, DIFFICULT PROCESS. I THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT, BUT CERTAINLY LESSONS LEARNED FROM THIS IN TERMS OF PROBABLY PUTTING TOGETHER A MORE ROBUST CALENDAR FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR AROUND NOT JUST BUDGET, BUT OTHER MAJOR DECISION OR ACTION ITEMS THAT WILL COME BEFORE STAFF AND COUNCIL, BUT REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WORK. MR. PRINCE. SO NUMBER, NUMBER OF COMMENTS. LET ME LET ME START WITH SOME REAL PRACTICAL THINGS. SO THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT USE OF THE TREE MITIGATION FUNDS. AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME PARTICULAR ANGST ABOUT USING TREE MITIGATION FUNDS TO RESURFACE THE PICKLEBALL COURT. THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN CHANGED IN THE BUDGET. SO IT'S DOWN IN THE DETAILS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IT, BUT THERE'S A TRANSFER FROM THE PARK FUND, WHICH IS THAT LEGAL DEFINITION FUND THAT THAT IS NOT TREE MITIGATION MONEY, BUT IT'S A PARK FUND. SO THERE'S A TRANSFER FROM THE PARK FUND TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE PICKLEBALL RESURFACING. SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S BEING BEING PAID FOR. THERE IS IN THE CIP TABLE THAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT TONIGHT. THERE ARE THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOWN THERE AS POTENTIALLY BEING FUNDED BY TREE MITIGATION FUNDS. NOW, EACH OF THOSE THREE PROJECTS

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AND NUMBER TWO, THE DAWN DRIVE PARK. AND NUMBER THREE, THE BATON POINTE TRAIL WORK. AND SO THOSE SHOW UP IN THE CIP. IN ADDITION, AS I HAD POINTED OUT BEFORE, THERE'S $200,000 OF ASSUMED NEW TREE MITIGATION REVENUE IN THIS BUDGET. AND AT THIS POINT, THE BUDGET DOESN'T EXPLICITLY SAY WHERE THAT THOSE $200,000 ARE BEING SPENT. THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS WITHIN THE PARK DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE LOGICAL USES OF THAT MONEY. AND SO THAT THAT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY WHERE IT WILL GO. ONE IS SUNSET PARK AND THE OTHER IS THE TURNBACK TRAIL CONSERVANCY. FOR THE WORK ON THE TRAIL. I WOULD ASK THAT THAT STAFF COME BACK, YOU KNOW, BEFORE TOO LONG AND DEFINE EXACTLY WHERE THAT $200,000 OF TREE MITIGATION FUND IS, IS BEING ALLOCATED WITHIN THE BUDGET. AND THEN MY, MY LAST THING AND KIND OF ECHOING THE THANK YOU, THANK YOU, ESPECIALLY TO, TO ROBERT OWEN, WHO'S DONE SOME AMAZING WORK IN PUTTING SOME TOOLS TOGETHER THAT MADE IT SO MUCH EASIER AS A GUY WHO SPENDS A TON OF TIME ON THE BUDGET, SO MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO ACTUALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE BUDGET. SO HIS HIS HELP WAS JUST OFF THE CHART VALUABLE. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT MR. JOY'S WORK. HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND HELPING US TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. HE ACTUALLY IS THE GUY WHO BROUGHT THE CONCEPT TO US OF AGREEING TO SOME PROJECTS WITHOUT ALLOCATING FUNDING FOR THEM. AND THAT THAT THAT MINDSET, THAT APPROACH SOLVES THE DILEMMA THAT I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT FOR YEARS, WHICH IS WE WE SEE A BUDGET THAT HAS A LOT OF MONEY FOR PERSONNEL, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEN WE UNDERSPEND THE PERSONNEL BUDGET. AND WHAT HE ALLOWED US TO DO WITH THAT APPROACH IS TO SAY, LET'S RECOGNIZE THAT IN HIS CASE, IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HE'S HAVING A HARD TIME FILLING SOME OPEN POSITIONS. AND SO HE'S ASSUMING THAT HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO UNDERSPEND HIS PERSONNEL BUDGET, SOME WHICH WILL ALLOW HIM TO FUND THE SRO OFFICERS AND THIS NINE HOUR OVERTIME PROCEDURE. AND IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO BASICALLY SELF-FUND THOSE THINGS. SO WE SAID THOSE ARE GREAT PROGRAMS. WE LOVE IT. DO IT, GO FIGURE IT OUT. AND IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO SELF-FUND IT, THEN HE WILL NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN SIX MONTHS OR WHENEVER HE RECOGNIZES HE'S RUNNING SHORT ON FUNDS AND ASK FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT. SAME THING WAS TRUE OF A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS, BUT THAT WAS CREATIVE THINKING, AND WITHOUT THAT CREATIVE THINKING, WE COULD HAVE HAD THE SAME MODEL THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH A BUDGET THAT'S MUCH HIGHER AND THE ACTUAL AT YEAR'S END BEING MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT THE BUDGET WAS.

SO I THINK GOOD PROGRESS ON THOSE FRONTS. AND CLEARLY THE OTHER LEARNING IS, IS DON'T HAVE A CITY MANAGER THAT QUITS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THE THICK OF BUDGET TIME. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A THAT'S A LEARNING PROCESS FOR THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. I GUESS I'LL ADD ON TO SOME OF THE STATEMENTS. SO I'LL JUST DO THE HARD PART FIRST AND THEN I'LL GO INTO THE DETAILS. BUT I'LL NOTE TO PEOPLE THAT, AND I'VE LET OTHERS KNOW THAT I INTEND TO VOTE NO ON THE BUDGET TONIGHT AND THE TAX RATE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WROTE A QUICK STATEMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A CONTENTIOUS VOTE. I WANT TO ECHO THE SAME THANK YOUS THAT EVERYONE ELSE DID.

AND THANK YOU TO PAUL PRINCE, NORA OWEN, ROBERT OWEN, CHIEF JOY, NICOLE, AND EVERYONE WHO WORKED UNDER THE DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES TO PRODUCE WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A LEGALLY ADOPTABLE BUDGET AFTER, AS MR. PRINCE POINTED OUT, OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER LEFT AT A VERY IMPORTANT TIME FOR US. I THINK THAT THAT LEFT US AT A PLACE WHERE WE WERE REALLY FAR BEHIND AND WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE. AND I THINK EVERYTHING THAT MR. PRINCE JUST TALKED ABOUT, IT SHOULD BE FURTHER EMPHASIZED. IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITIZENS ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO GET THAT DEEP INTO THE BUDGET AND COMPLETE THIS PROCESS AS THEY DID.

ABSOLUTELY. STAFF DID A TON OF WORK, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY AIDED BY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND SO THIS IS NOT A CRITIQUE OF THEM OR ANYTHING. I JUST THINK THAT WE WERE PUT IN A DIFFICULT POSITION. WE HAD TO GET TO THIS POINT BY LAW. WE HAVE TO PASS THE BUDGET. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT DESERVES A UNANIMOUS VOTE. I THINK THERE ARE CITIZENS WHO WILL SEE THE PROCESS AND THINK, THAT'S NOT HOW I WANT TO SEE IT DONE. I THINK MOST PEOPLE UP HERE AGREE THAT THIS ISN'T HOW THEY WANT TO SEE IT DONE, AND I'M VERY POSITIVE YOU WON'T SEE THE BUDGET HAPPEN LIKE THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR. I THINK THERE'S A FULL COMMITMENT FROM THIS COUNCIL TO START THIS PROCESS VERY EARLY. I THINK OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE LEARNED A LOT DURING THIS PROCESS, AND WE'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE SUPPORT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM.

AND SO I THINK WE'LL SEE GREAT IMPROVEMENTS THERE. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT I'VE HARPED ON FOR THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS IS I'D LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE SCRUTINIZING WITHIN THE

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THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. AND SO THEN DOWN SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE UTILITY FUND AND THE UTILITY FUND. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ALLOCATED AND TRANSFERRED THAT INTO IT. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S A NEGATIVE RESULT TO THE UTILITY FUND. THOSE I BELIEVE WERE JUST THE DIRECT COSTS OF THE PORTION THAT WENT. SO THE 141 EXCUSE ME, THE 141 IS WHAT WENT OVER. AND NOW IS THE UTILITY FUND I.T. BUDGET. AND THEN THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL COSTS WERE THEN ALSO ALLOCATED TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. AND ONE OF THOSE WAS TO THE CITY COUNCIL I.T. BUDGET. I ONLY BRING IT UP BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE LOOKING AT SAYING, OH, WELL, COUNCIL'S TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO SAVE MONEY. AND THEN HERE THEY RAISED THEIR OWN BUDGET. I THINK IT WAS DETERMINED BY STAFF THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN I.T. EXPENSES THAT FALL UNDER US AND AGREED. THOSE ARE. DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONES? I THINK IT WAS IN AN EMAIL I EMAILED YOU THE. YOU HAD THE ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE. IT WAS, I BELIEVE, $32,000, AND THAT IS THE. GRANICUS SYSTEM.

THE. I DON'T KNOW THE WORD FOR IT. THE VIDEO, THE LIVE VIDEO SERVICE, LIVE FEED AND ALL OF THAT THAT IS SUPPORTED IN HERE. OKAY. IS THAT IS THAT IS COUNCIL THE BEST PLACE FOR THAT TO BE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE ADMINISTRATIVE OR BUILDING MAINTENANCE, BUILDING MAINTENANCE, I GUESS ADMINISTRATIVE, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST I WENT BY THE SUGGESTION OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. OKAY. ULTIMATELY, I GUESS WHAT WE CAN WORK ON THAT AT A DIFFERENT TIME IS THAT GRANICUS ALSO, AT ONE POINT, THE FORMER

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YOU WERE THERE. THERE YOU GO. $85,000 TRANSFER FROM TREE MITIGATION INTO THE GENERAL FUND. WHAT WAS THAT ASSOCIATED WITH? I THAT WAS THE CONSERVANCY TRAILS. OH, OKAY.

AND DIRECT IMMEDIATE THING THAT WE IDENTIFIED BESIDES THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS. OKAY. GOTCHA.

AND I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE DOUBLING UP WITH WHAT'S LISTED ON THE CIP, BECAUSE THE TRAIL IS ON THAT CIP LIST AS WELL. IT'S LIFTED. IT'S LISTED IN THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET.

SPECIFICALLY TERM THAT CONSERVANCY TRAILS. I BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WELL, BUT I COULD BE WE I THINK WE ASKED VICTOR TO PUT IT IN THE CIP TABLE. I THINK IT'S IN THERE. AM I NOT REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY? OKAY, OKAY. I'LL SAY THERE'S NO IT'S JUST.

GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU ALREADY HAVE IT UP HERE IS THE GIS POSITION. SO WE'VE OFFICIALLY MOVED IT OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS. IT'S IN & DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I GUESS THIS IS MORE OF A COUNCIL REQUEST OF DIRECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES IN THE LETTER OR NOT, BUT. PUBLIC WORKS STILL HAS GIS NEEDS AND PURPOSES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY HAVE BUDGETED OR INTEND TO SPEND ON THAT. AND THEN I'D LIKE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CITY MANAGER OF THE DUTIES AND WORKLOAD OF OUR GIS PERSON THAT THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY TAKE ON SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC WORKS. GIS WORK BECAUSE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, I'D RATHER WE'D BE DOING IT IN-HOUSE THAN SENDING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND IF WE ARE SENDING SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'D BE HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW MUCH. I THINK THAT'S IT. I HAD ON THOSE QUESTIONS AND THEN THE OTHERS JUST AGAIN, AN OBSERVATION THAT I THINK IT WAS VIRGIL WHO HAD EMAILED US ABOUT, AND I'VE HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT LOOKS LIKE PROPOSED RAISES FOR DIRECTORS IN THIS BUDGET. THERE WERE SIX DIRECTORS THAT THE FORMER CITY MANAGER GAVE RAISES TO, I BELIEVE. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THIS BUDGET IS JUST REFLECTING THOSE RAISES THAT THOSE HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED. THEY'RE JUST NOW BEING CAPTURED IN THIS BUDGET BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY PAY THEM. AGREED. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I REALLY HAD WITH ACCEPTING A YES VOTE ON THIS BUDGET. I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, AND WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S ONLY COME OUT IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T SEE AGAIN. I'M DONE WITH MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. I WANT TO COME BACK TO THIS TRANSFER FOR THE TRAIL BECAUSE AS I SAID IN MY STATEMENT EARLIER, THERE'S $200,000 IN REVENUE THAT'S IN THERE, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE WHAT'S BEING PAID FOR WITH THAT REVENUE THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. SO WITH THIS TRANSFER, INSTEAD OF 200,000, IT'S NOW 285,000 THAT WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS FOR. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE YOUR SLIDE, WHICH WAS THE GENERAL FUND, IT SHOWS REVENUE OF 13.4 MILLION. AND THE EXPENDITURES BASE PLUS CHANGE BASICALLY CONSUMES ALL OF THAT, RIGHT. SO SO THIS $85,000 TRANSFER IN FROM THE TREE MITIGATION FUND HELPED YOU GET A HOLE ON THE TOTAL EXPENSES VERSUS TOTAL REVENUE.

BUT WE'VE GOT NOW $285,000 WORTH OF TREE MITIGATION FUNDS THAT WE'VE GOT TO SAY WHERE WE'RE SPENDING THAT AND WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE SPEND. CERTAINLY THE CONSERVANCY TRAIL IS FINE. AND IF THAT HAD BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE ORIGINAL 200,000, I'D SAY, GREAT, LET'S FIND THE OTHER 115. BUT IT GOT TRANSFERRED IN. SO NOW IT'S 285 THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT 200. AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST ASK STAFF TO COME BACK AND CLEAR THAT UP FOR US IN THE FUTURE. IT WOULD NOT PREVENT ME FROM FROM VOTING FOR THE BUDGET. AND, AND I'M NOT SURE IT'S WORTH DOING SOME KIND OF AN AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WE NEED TO THINK IT THROUGH AND LEAVE THE BUDGET WHERE IT'S AT. MR. HALL. JUST A GENERAL COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, OUT OF 180 SOME ODD PAGES, WITH A BUDGET, WITH HUNDREDS OF LINE

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IS THAT RIGHT? AND SO THAT MAY STILL BE SOMETHING THAT IN THE FUTURE BECOMES A BUDGET AMENDMENT. BUT I AM STATING IT ON THE RECORD JUST SO THAT WE HAVE IT AS A PLACEHOLDER. AS I USE THE TRANSCRIPTS FROM THESE MEETINGS, IN ORDER TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOVERING ITEMS, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FALLS UNDER YOU, VICTOR, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT OUT LOUD. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING IN CASE THAT UNDER PROJECT MANAGEMENT, YOU JUST KNOW COUNSELOR CHAVARRIA HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION BASED ON THAT. THANK YOU. IF PEOPLE KEEP LEAVING SILENCE, I'LL KEEP REMEMBERING THINGS. SO I'M GOING TO ADD THREE THINGS THAT I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND BUDGET. THIS IS MORE ON VICTOR'S ROUTE, IS THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE SORT OF ASKED COUNCIL, AND I'M ASKING IF WE CAN GET A CONSENSUS ON IT. ONE AGAIN IS, IS COUNCIL OKAY THAT WE ARE PUSHING OFF THE STREET REHAB ANOTHER YEAR RATHER THAN HAVING SOME BROUGHT FORWARD? THIS YEAR? I SEE THAT THERE'S OVER $400,000 STILL FOR THIS YEAR. DID AUSTIN BOULEVARD AND THE CUL DE SAC, WHATEVER STREET THAT WAS, ARE THOSE THAT WOULD ARE SHOWN IN THERE NOW OR WHAT'S WHAT'S IN THOSE? SO WITHOUT CRAMMING THE BUDGET CYCLE AND KIND OF DELAYING THIS PROCESS, I PLANNED ON GETTING MORE GUIDANCE ON THAT AT A LATER TIME. FOR RIGHT NOW, IT WAS LEFT WITHIN THEIR. THE SCHEDULE CAN BE MODIFIED, BUT WHEN THAT SCHEDULE IS MODIFIED AND WHEN THAT IS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, WE CAN DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT PUSHING THAT UP A YEAR, PUSHING THE FUNDS UP A YEAR. BUT CURRENTLY THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD BE PLANNED TO MOVE FORWARD IS A DEEP CREEK. AND THAT WOULD BE THE LINE ITEM THAT SAYS THE OVERLAY. IT WOULD BE A SUB PROJECT WITHIN THERE, SO IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY PHASE THREE. IT WOULD BE CORRECTING THAT MISTAKE BECAUSE LISTENING TO THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, THAT WAS IT NEEDED TO BE IN THE BUDGET. AND IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE HANDLED. SO THAT PROJECT IS ALREADY DESIGNED. IT WOULD JUST GO OUT FOR RFQ OR RFP RELATIVELY SOON AND THEN PUSH FORWARD. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THERE'S ABOUT I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN, BUT THERE'S ABOUT 600,000 OR MAYBE ABOUT 700,000 OR 70,000 WITHIN THAT LINE ITEM THAT WAS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED FOR DEEP CREEK. SO DEEP CREEK IS TAKEN CARE OF ON THAT. WHAT ABOUT AUSTIN BOULEVARD? I THINK THAT WAS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.

BRAD AUSTIN BOULEVARD, THE ALLOCATED FUNDS. SORRY, I NEED MORE CONTEXT. WHAT'S THE QUESTION? MY MY RECOLLECTION IS I WAS ALWAYS PROPOSING OR NOT ALWAYS, BUT I STARTED PROPOSING IT A MEETING OR TWO AGO. USE SOME OF THESE REHAB FUNDS. LET'S JUST GET DONE WITH THE AUSTIN BOULEVARD ISSUE. BUT IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP. THERE WERE POTENTIALLY FUNDS THAT WERE PROVIDED AND SET ASIDE. THEY WERE INTENTIONALLY SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE FOR AUSTIN BOULEVARD,

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AND, AND AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST, MONEY'S GOT INTO THAT FUND AND A PREVIOUS FINANCE DIRECTOR FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SET UP A SEPARATE FUND TO JUST TRACK THAT MONEY.

OUR RECENTLY DEPARTED CITY MANAGER MADE THE DECISION THAT WE COULD JUST TAKE THAT MONEY AND PUT IT INTO THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE FUND. AND SO THAT MONEY, WHICH SOMEONE AT SOME POINT THOUGHT WAS, SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO AUSTIN BOULEVARD PAVING, GOT PUT INTO THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAS, DO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF LEGAL OBLIGATION TO, TO, TO HOLD THAT MONEY SEPARATELY AND ONLY APPLY IT TO AUSTIN BOULEVARD AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WHENEVER THAT WORK IS READY TO BE DONE? AND NICOLE, PLEASE. SO, BRAD, I HAD SENT SOMETHING TO BRAD'S OFFICE AND I'M WORKING WITH ONE OF HIS ATTORNEYS TO REVIEW SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION WE HAVE ON THAT. IN 2018, I BELIEVE THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT MAY NEGATE THAT AND AND CLEAR THOSE FUNDS AND TAKE THAT OBLIGATION OFF OF OUR HANDS. SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING THAT SPECIFIC. 26 THAT'S GREAT. AND I'LL JUST SAY, BRAD, THAT MR. ROBERTS SITTING IN THE BACK IS AN EXPERT WITNESS ON THIS TOPIC.

IF IT BECOMES CONFUSING. YES, YES. SO BACK TO MY ASK OF COUNSEL IS TO GIVE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO JUST WE NEED TO GO FORWARD AND COMPLETE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH AUSTIN BOULEVARD.

WE CAN FIGURE OUT THIS OTHER LEGAL STUFF ALONG THE WAY. THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO GO ON. I'M ASKING COUNSEL FOR CONSENSUS TO JUST GIVE THAT DIRECTION, MOVE FORWARD WITH AUSTIN BOULEVARD. ALL RIGHT. I SEE 4 OR 5. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST CONTRACT AUSTIN BOULEVARD BY ITSELF WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE OTHER 251 ROADS. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO DO THAT. BUT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'LL BE BEFORE THOSE.

OKAY. AS LONG AS COUNCIL AGREES TO THAT. AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION I'LL START WORKING ON THAT ONE AND THEN DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT. MISS VANESSA. YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO GET IT CLEARED UP BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE CITY TOOK IT OVER YEARS AGO AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO THAT ROAD. SO WE REALLY IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO GET IT DONE. AS PART OF YOUR OVERALL PROJECT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS YEAR. GET THAT DONE. YEAH, I WOULD BE MORE WITH MISS VAN NESS RATHER THAN SAYING, LET'S DO AUSTIN BOULEVARD NOW AND AND NOT WAIT FOR THE OTHERS. THERE IS A COST OF DEPLOYMENT. AND SO IF WE DO AUSTIN BOULEVARD BY ITSELF, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IF WE INCLUDE AUSTIN BOULEVARD IN A BIG PROJECT LATER. AND SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SAY AUSTIN BOULEVARD NEEDS TO BE IN THE LIST WITH ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. WE DON'T YET KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LEGAL CONSTRAINTS ARE AND WHAT MAY. BUT I WOULD HATE FOR US TO RUSH INTO DOING AUSTIN BOULEVARD AND BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IT COULD HAVE BEEN. OR WE, WE FIND SOME LEGAL ISSUE THAT WE DIDN'T DIDN'T HANDLE CORRECTLY BECAUSE THE LEGAL REVIEW HADN'T BEEN COMPLETED.

SO, I MEAN, SO WE'D HAVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE THE QUESTION COMES DOWN TO, NUMBER ONE, WHAT CONSTRAINTS WERE PLACED UPON THOSE FUNDS IN THE ORIGINAL ACTION BACK IN 2018, WHATEVER THAT WAS, HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO THAT WAS. AND IF THERE WAS SOME SUBSEQUENT SETTLEMENT OR SOMETHING THAT THAT WE REMOVED THOSE CONSTRAINTS, THAT'S FINE.

WHAT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN I MEAN, IF THAT MONEY, IF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY MUST BE USED FOR AUSTIN BOULEVARD, BUT THAT IT WAS PLACED INTO GENERAL FUND AND KIND OF COMMINGLED THAT WAY, THEN ULTIMATELY YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU FUND AUSTIN BOULEVARD NOW OUT OF THIS THING, AS YOU'RE SUGGESTING, OUT OF A LARGER ONE. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME AMOUNT OF IT MUST BE DEDICATED TO AUSTIN BOULEVARD IF THAT IF THOSE CONSTRAINTS ARE ON THAT, THAT MONEY. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SPEND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT YOU SPEND ON IT. SO, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT WORKS OUT TO BE. SO, SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THOSE ANSWERS. BUT, BUT THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE ME. THAT DOESN'T STOP YOU FROM PROCEEDING ON AUSTIN BOULEVARD. THAT'S AN ACCOUNTING ISSUE THAT WE CAN WORK OUT LATER ON IF NECESSARY. THAT THAT'S FAIR. SO I'LL AMEND MY COMMENTS TO SAY IT'S MAYBE NOT A LEGAL CONCERN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AUSTIN BOULEVARD, BUT IT'S AN EFFICIENCY OF EXPENSE CONCERN. IF WE DO AUSTIN BOULEVARD BY ITSELF, IT WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE, I WOULD ASSUME, THAN IF WE BUNDLE IT IN WITH A BIGGER JOB. I GUESS THAT'S TO MY ORIGINAL POINT I MADE TWO MEETINGS AGO. WHY WOULDN'T DELAY THE STREET REHAB? OF THOSE 212, HOWEVER MANY STREETS THERE HAS TO BE A NUMBER OF THOSE THAT YOU

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NOW AUSTIN BOULEVARD AND THE CUL DE SAC ARE, I UNDERSTAND, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT YOU SPENT ON RESURFACING OTHER STREETS. BUT THE AT LEAST THE CUL DE SAC WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PHASE ONE. IT JUST GOT PULLED OUT OF IT. SO IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE A PART OF THE PLAN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE. THAT JUST IS WHAT IT IS. NO.

AND IT JUST COMES DOWN TO WHEN THE STREET MATRIX HAVING A 250 SOMETHING ROADS, THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT WAS DONE, I THINK WAS THE 2426 PLAN. ONLY A CLASSIFIED ROAD CONDITIONS BY VERY POOR, POOR AND ALL OF THAT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT ROUTE, IT'S A MUCH FASTER PROCESS. BUT THAT WASN'T THE INTENT. THE INTENT WAS ACTUALLY TO GO OUT AND PUT A NUMBER.

IT'S CALLED A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX ON EACH OF THESE ROADS. SO WHEN AND THEN WITHIN THAT MATRIX ALSO QUANTIFIED UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING. SO PUTTING THAT MATRIX TOGETHER AND EVALUATE ALL THE ROADS TAKES A LOT OF TIME. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE HOW IT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY WITH JUST YES OR A. YEAH, JUST A REGULAR OR A NAME INSTEAD OF A NUMBER ON THE PAVEMENT, THEN THAT IT WILL FAST TRACK THE PROJECT, BUT THEN IT WILL COME DOWN TO, OKAY, WHAT IF THE MATRIX IS EQUAL? HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHICH ROAD WOULD BE PICKED? AND ARE WE GOING TO SPEND THE WHOLE BUDGET NEXT YEAR OR AND FINALIZE THAT 12 MILLION? OR ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO ACTUALLY ALLOCATE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS AND SPREAD THE CO BONDS FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME AND HAVE OUR STAFF ACTUALLY DO THE ROADS JUST PAY FOR THE MATERIAL OUT OF THE CO BONDS? SO I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION, AND I'M WILLING TO KIND OF PUT A PRESENTATION TOGETHER AND KIND OF GO OVER ALL THE INS AND OUTS. AND THEN WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF MOVE THE BUDGET FORWARD AND MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD SEPARATELY. IF I MAY MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT, MAYOR, I THINK WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING AND I AGREE WITH IS LET'S NOT WAIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL INTENTIONALLY. CALL IT THE GRAND UNIFIED FIELD THEORY OF STREETS. RIGHT? LET'S GET SOMETHING DONE. LET'S GET TO A PACKAGE OF STREETS. THAT'S A REASONABLE THING THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO AND MOVE RELATIVELY QUICKLY ON THAT. LET'S NOT DO STUPID THINGS, BUT LET'S ALSO NOT WAIT FOR, YOU KNOW, A SUPER LONG, COMPLICATED STUDY TO GET ANYTHING DONE, WHICH I THINK IS IN ESSENCE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. YES, I AGREE WITH THAT, MR. AUBRY. THIS MAY BE A DEAD HORSE, BUT AUSTIN BOULEVARD OR AUSTIN, I MEAN, THIS I'M SORRY, THIS PARTICULAR STREET HAS BEEN A POINT OF CONTENTION. AND WE'VE HAD MONEY IN THIS FUNDS THAT WAS TRANSFERRED OUT TEN YEARS AGO. PROJECTS LIKE THIS FOR REPAVING ARE ONLY GOING TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE. I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY. AND IF WE'RE WALKING AT 16,000, 26,000, KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO COST 70 TO REDO THIS ROAD, WHY ARE WE EVEN WAITING? BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO BULK IT UP, AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT 5 OR 6 ROADS IN TOGETHER TO TO REPAVE OR MAYBE 10 OR 15 ROADS. BUT I THINK THIS, THIS NEEDS TO BE ON THE TOP OF THE LIST. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE GRADED AS POOR. THIS THAT'S A VERY HEAVILY TRAVELED ROAD. IT HAS UTILITIES. IT HAS RESIDENTS. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE THERE AND WE'VE BREACHED THAT RESPONSIBILITY. SO I AM ALL FOR GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND NOT WAITING FOR SOME LONG STUDY. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO GET TO TO COME TO FRUITION. MR. BENNEFIELD, MY SHORT COMMENT IS, FIRST, I, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE VARIOUS QUOTES. I MEAN, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PACKETS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU'VE SAVED US HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS, IF NOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON SOME OF THESE VARIOUS QUOTES. SO TOTAL KUDOS TO YOU. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VICTOR. THE ONLY REASON I FEEL A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY WITH AUSTIN BOULEVARD I DO WITH OTHER ROADS IS THIS PARTICULAR ROAD WAS ONCE THOUGHT TO BE OWNED BY THE HOA, AND THEY ENDED UP SPENDING A LOT OF THEIR OWN MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD. AND THEN IT WAS LATER DETERMINED. NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A IF IT'S AN APOLOGY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A CONCESSION, BUT I JUST IN MY MIND, I LOOK AT THE STATE OF THE ROAD. I LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF IT. I LOOK AT THE WHAT THEY'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO GET HERE. AND I THINK THEY'RE ENTITLED TO GET A NEW ROAD. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WOULD AGREE TO FAST TRACK THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY HAVE A BAD ROAD.

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LIKE GET OUT THERE AND START PAVING ROADS, PAVE THE NEXT SET OF ROADS, EVEN IF THE ANALYSIS ISN'T PERFECT, AND KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY NOTICE AND APPRECIATE. SO JUST MY $0.02. BUT THE OPTICS ARE IMPORTANT, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE FIRST JOB OF THE MAYOR? MAKE SURE ALL THE POTHOLES ARE FILLED, RIGHT? DON'T THEY SAY THAT EVERYWHERE. SO ANYWAYS, MAKE SURE ALL OUR ROADS ARE PAVED. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I CAN GO AHEAD AND PUSH DEEP CREEK IN AUSTIN BOULEVARD FORWARD WITH IN ONE CONTRACT, GET THAT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THAT TIME IF THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. SO I THINK WHAT MR. PRINCE CLARIFIED WAS THAT ACTUALLY, IF THERE'S A GROUP OF STREETS, GO AHEAD AND DO THAT, THEY WERE ALREADY GOING TO GO FORWARD. GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND YOU'LL HAVE A BIGGER SET OF PROJECTS, ANOTHER TEN STREETS OR ANOTHER 50 STREETS THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO EVENTUALLY, AND YOU CAN GROUP THEM IN. THAT'S A THAT'S A BIGGER, BIGGER BID AND SHOULD SAVE US SOME MONEY ON A PER PER LINEAR FOOT BASIS, I WOULD ASSUME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MY LAST ITEM FOR YOU AGAIN IS AN ASK OF COUNCIL, AND IT'S ONE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT BEFORE, THE TYPE ONE FILTER, I CAN'T REMEMBER. I'VE LOOKED AT SO MANY BUDGET DOCUMENTS. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE, BUT I, WHEN I LOOKED AT ONE DOCUMENT, IT FINALLY SHOWED ME THE UNENCUMBERED AMOUNT OF THE 2024CO BOND. AND IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND $2.2 MILLION.

MY ASK OF COUNCIL IS TO GO AHEAD AND ENCUMBER THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS TYPE ONE, THE TYPE ONE FILTER, AND GIVE DIRECTION THAT STAFF ARE TO GO FORWARD AND PUT OUT THE RFP TO FINALLY GO FORWARD AND PROCURE THE TYPE ONE FILTER. AND MY ASK OF COUNCIL IS, ARE YOU READY OR WILLING TO GIVE THAT DIRECTION? MR. BENNEFIELD? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. I GOT A FEW. OKAY.

JUST A COUPLE JUST A FEW THINGS ON THAT BECAUSE IT DOES KIND OF TRICKLE INTO A FEW. IT DOES KIND OF NOT MESS UP, BUT HAVING US TO REDO GRANTS, THE EPA GRANT WAS ACTUALLY SENT IN WITH MULTIPLE IMPROVEMENTS, NOT JUST THE TYPE ONE. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REDO THAT DOCUMENT. THE TEXAS WATER, THE CLEAN WATER, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. THAT LOAN APPLICATION WOULD HAVE TO BE REVISED IF THERE'S ONLY THAT ONE PORTION THAT WE'RE KEEPING, THEN IT ACTUALLY COULD HURT THE SCORING. AND AND THAT WOULD BE IF WE WOULD HAVE TO RESUBMIT AND THEN GET AN UPDATED SCORE BASED OFF OF THE PROJECTS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE TRUE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT WE JUST GOT INVITED TO THE NEXT ROUND THAT UNCOVERED A WHOLE LOT OF PROJECT FOR THE WASTEWATER FACILITY PLANT. SO THE TYPE ONE IS STILL A PART OF ALL THAT PROJECT. EVERYTHING STILL CONNECTED AND COALESCED TOGETHER. WE'RE JUST SAYING WE MAY ALREADY HAVE SOME FUNDS OVER HERE IN THE CO BOND THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT APPLICATION IS PREDICATED, THAT NONE OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE DONE ANY OTHER WAY. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GET DONE, AND THAT OPENS UP SOME ROOM FOR YOU ON THAT AMOUNT. AND ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S A LOAN, TO TAKE THAT OFF OF THAT LOAN NOW MEANS THAT $28 MILLION LOAN WOULD BE A $26 MILLION LOAN. AND THAT'S BUT THE SCORING FOR IT, WE'RE GETTING WE'RE STILL DOING IT. YOU STILL GET IT'S STILL PART OF THE PROJECT. WE'VE JUST DECIDED THAT WE MAY FUND IT ELSEWHERE. AND THAT WAS ONE DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH JOSE, I BELIEVE, SAYING THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM WITH AN UPDATED PROJECT AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE. SO IF WE SPEND IT NOW, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT PART OF THAT PROJECT IN WHICH WE'RE ASKING THAT MONEY FOR. BUT AREN'T YOU TOLD BEFORE THERE WAS A SEQUENCING ISSUE WHY Y'ALL DIDN'T SUPPORT GOING FASTER ON TYPE ONE? SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ENGINEERING.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT MOVES IN. YOU HAVE SOME OTHER FILTERS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT IN. I THINK THAT THOSE COULD STILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE TYPE ONE FILTER OVERALL BUILD, AND STILL MAKES THE PROJECT JUST AS RELEVANT. AND THE POINTS WOULD STAY THE SAME. YES. AND THAT'S KIND OF MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO GROUP THE DEWATERING BUILDING AND THE FILTER INTO ONE. HAVE GARVER WORK ON THAT NOW AND SAVE THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS FOR LATER. NOT NECESSARILY JUST BREAK IT UP INTO THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. WELL, I'LL

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HE AND EARNEST AND AND SOME OTHER HEADS AND PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

AND CERTAINLY, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE PART OF THE NEED AND FUND IT AND MAYBE EVEN AUGMENT THE GRANT APPLICATION SO THAT THE AMOUNT DOESN'T CHANGE STILL, THAT WE PUT SOME OTHER FEATURES IN IT AND COMMUNICATE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL PACKAGE OF IMPROVEMENTS, SOME OF WHICH THE CITY WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TO FUND. IN ADDITION TO PAYING THE LOAN BACK, I, I'D JUST LIKE THE CHANCE TO CHAT WITH VICTOR AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS. MR. MAYOR, I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL'S. AND I'M SURE VICTOR DOES TO THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO QUICKLY GET THE TYPE ONE FILTRATION SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT EFFLUENT AVAILABLE. MR. BROWNFIELD, I THINK THAT'S A RESPECTABLE REQUEST. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. MY ONLY ADDITION TO THAT, THOUGH, IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TYPE TYPE ONE FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK HERE, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME RESISTANCE FROM STAFF TO DO THE CONVERSION TO TYPE ONE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MONEY THAT WE SAVED FOR THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, THE IRRIGATION SUBCOMMITTEE DID INDICATE THAT THAT WE WANTED TO UTILIZE THAT MONEY TOWARDS TYPE ONE FILTRATION. AND ONCE WE GET THAT TYPE ONE FILTRATION, A LOT OF THE NEEDS OF WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE ASKED FOR KIND OF GET FULFILLED. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WANT MORE SHADE AT SUNSET PARK, THEY WANT MORE TREES AT SUNSET PARK. WE WANT TO DO OTHER THINGS WITH IRRIGATION. WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT UNTIL WE HAVE TYPE ONE WATER. ONCE WE HAVE THE TYPE ONE WATER, WE CAN START PLANTING TREES. WE CAN START GETTING SHADE IN. WE CAN START DOING SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS. WE CAN INCREASE OUR CAPACITY OF OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION, BECAUSE WE CAN START DOING IT AT PARKS AND BOWDEN POINT AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT FACILITIES THAT WE CAN'T DO TODAY. WE CAN IRRIGATE AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND WE CAN GO TO OUR POA, AND IT JUST IT OPENS UP THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR THAT WE'VE NEVER PREVIOUSLY BEEN EXPERIENCING. TO WHAT MAYOR SAM HAS SAID ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS IS WE I THINK WE HAVE A COUNCIL READY, WILLING AND ABLE. WE'VE GOT THE MONEY SITTING IN A BANK ACCOUNT. AND THE LAST COMPONENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK LATER ABOUT TODAY IS PRESERVING THIS $3.6 MILLION EFFLUENT SYSTEM THAT WE JUST ARE INSTALLING AND PROTECTING THE MATERIALS GOING INTO THAT SYSTEM. SO, I MEAN, I PROBABLY COULD DOCUMENT 10 OR 15 REASONS WHY TYPE ONE IS A REALLY VALUABLE ASSET. SO THAT'S THE REASON I, I DON'T KNOW THE LOGISTICS OF THE SCORING SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT. SO I RESPECT WHAT MR. TURNER IS ASKING FOR. JUST FROM A VERY SELFISH PERSPECTIVE. I THINK IT'S A IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY. AND JUST TO SPEAK ON THAT, THE RESISTANCE WASN'T ABOUT THE FILTER. NO. I KNOW IT WAS JUST IT WAS SIMPLY JUST ABOUT THE PERMITTING. WHY PERMIT CURRENTLY, IF WE CAN JUST INSTALL THE FILTER, PRODUCE THE TYPE ONE EFFLUENT. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ONLY ABOUT THE. YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISCHARACTERIZED IT. AND IT WAS ALSO WORKLOAD. I THINK THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING ON. AND SO NO, I RESPECT THAT. BUT I DO AGREE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE A QUICK DISCUSSION ABOUT. AND JUST REAL QUICK TO CHIME IN, THE REASON I'M SAYING IT NOW IN THE BUDGET, I CONSIDER THE BUDGET IS THIS UNIQUE THING THAT WE ALL DO EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND THAT GIVES YOU SOME GUIDANCE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. THAT DOESN'T REALLY JUMP OVER OTHER POLICY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AT INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS.

BUT SINCE THIS IS AN OVERARCHING BUDGET THAT GIVES YOU DIRECTION FOR THE WHOLE

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HOW MANY YEARS IS IT GOING TO DRIFT THAT WE HAVEN'T ALLOCATED THOSE FUNDS TO SOMETHING? SO I SEE MR. TURNER NODDING HIS HEAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY COUNCILOR BENEFIELD WAS MENTIONING ABOUT THE TYPE ONE. AND IN DISCUSSIONS AT I PASS, IT BECAME VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT ONE ITEM WAS THAT THE FILTER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A SPECIAL. I MEAN, IT WAS WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER, BUT TRYING TO GET IT FIT IN AND THE WORKLOADS AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING, IT'S GOING TO COST A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW. SO THE FILTER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEPLOYING IS NOT THE SAME AS THE TYPE ONE PERMIT. SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, REITERATE THERE IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON THERE AT THE SAME TIME. AND SO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS GOT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. AT LEAST IT WAS, I'LL JUST SAY ON MY PART IN GOING, WHEN YOU SAY TYPE ONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE TELLING HIM TO DO? BECAUSE TYPE ONE WAS NOT EXACTLY STRAIGHT DIRECTION.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, DEPLOY THE FILTER IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE SYSTEM. THAT WAS ONE GOING FOR THE TYPE ONE PERMIT. AND ALL THAT THAT ENTAILS IS ANOTHER CONVERSATION. SO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THAT OVER THIS YEAR. AND I KNOW THAT I PASS. IS REALLY. HAS DONE A GOOD JOB WITH VICTOR. AND I WANT TO SAY THIS LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT ALSO BECAME VERY APPARENT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE WE DOING THIS YEAR TO SET UP THE REST OF OUR FORWARD PROJECTS, RIGHT, VERSUS THE OVERALL PROJECTS. AND SO THIS IS JUST A THANK YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF COMMUNICATION THAT SOMETIMES ISN'T REALLY CLEAR. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. A COUPLE QUESTIONS SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CLARIFICATION. SO PRIORITY IS THE TYPE OF THE FILTERS AND THE TYPE ONE. THE OTHER CLARIFICATION LIKE IS THROUGH STAFF FOCUS ON SAVINGS EFFICIENCY, QUICKNESS OF THESE PROJECTS, SAVING MONEY OR JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE PROJECTS. WHAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL, LIKE WHICH PROJECTS JUST THE TYPE ONE, TYPE ONE FILTER AND THOSE THINGS. SO WOULD BE MOVING THIS FORWARD, SAY LOOKING AT SAVINGS, LOOKING AT EFFICIENCY AND THE TIME. WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE LOOKING AT EFFICIENCY AND HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR DOLLARS.

THAT'S ALWAYS A PART OF THE. BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE INVESTIGATED THE TYPE ONE FILTER. WE'VE HAD THEM COME OUT HERE. COUNCIL'S GIVEN DIRECTION AT MULTIPLE TIMES TO JUST GO FORWARD WITH IT. AND WE'RE STILL NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. SAVINGS AND TIME. YEP.

MISTER MAYOR. THANK YOU. YEAH. MR. TURNER. YEAH. IF YOU LET STAFF KIND OF CHAT ABOUT IT, I THINK WE'VE HEARD YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER IMMEDIATE BUDGET QUESTIONS. I WAS GOING TO LET THE ASK AGAIN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS THE NON PUBLIC HEARING PART OF THE ACTION ITEMS. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ACTION ITEMS OF ITEM ONE, TWO AND THREE? THESE ARE ALL THE BUDGET ITEMS. OKAY HEARING NONE. THEN I'M BACK TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND I'M OPEN TO MOTIONS ON INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS. MAYOR PRO TEM YES, ON ITEM NUMBER ONE I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 26-09-17-01. ADOPTING THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO 2027. BUDGET AS PRESENTED. NUMBER ONE. RIGHT INDIVIDUAL.

I'LL SECOND THAT. AND THEN I'LL ALSO ADD IN THE COMMENT. I THINK STAFF HAS HEARD A LOT OF OUR COMMENTARY OF SUGGESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION AND COME BACK DETAILS, BUT I WILL SECOND THE

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I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR PRINCE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY, NAY, NAY. IT IS APPROVED FOR THREE.

ALL RIGHT. I'M STILL OPEN TO. OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, I DID DO THAT. I DID SAY I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. MY APOLOGIES FOR ONE. OR IS IT JUST FOR TAX RATE. I THINK IT'S FOR ALL OF THEM SHOWN ON MY SHEET. ALL THREE. WE'RE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I WILL START DOWN WITH MISTER HALL. I APPROVE MISTER BENNEFIELD. NAY MISTER NAY. MAYOR PRO TEM APPROVE. COUNCILOR MENDEZ, I APPROVE, MISTER PRINCE, I APPROVE. OKAY, SORRY ABOUT THAT, ROBIN. ALL RIGHT, SO IT IS APPROVED 4 TO 3, AND I'M STILL OPEN TO MOTIONS ON ITEM TWO AND THREE. TWO. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT THIS. I MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-2223, RATIFYING THE INCREASE IN TOTAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE REFLECTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26-27 BUDGET BEING AN INCREASE OF $143,182.44, OR 1.36% MORE TOTAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO INCLUDE PROPOSED MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE OF 0.265525 PER $100. ALSO, THE PROPOSED INTEREST AND SINKING RATE .186463 PER $100 FOR A COMBINED NO NEW REVENUE RATE OF 0.451988 PER $100, AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 102.007 C OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM. DO I HAVE A SECOND, A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND FROM MISTER PRINCE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT IF I MAY. THIS THIS LANGUAGE, AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, TALKS ABOUT INCREASING PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. AS WE SAW IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THE ACTUAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE ON EXISTING PROPERTY, WHICH WAS TAXED LAST YEAR, WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY. AND THERE'S ENOUGH NEW PROPERTY THAT THE TOTAL WAS INCREASED. BUT FOR CITIZENS PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE ON THE AVERAGE ACROSS EXISTING PROPERTIES, THE TAX RATE PAID TAX SHOULD GO DOWN THIS YEAR. SOME WILL GO UP, SOME WILL GO DOWN. BUT ON AVERAGE IT SHOULD GO DOWN. THANK YOU, MISTER O'BRIEN. I'LL SAY WITH THE CALCULATION YOU'RE CORRECT. THE IT WILL GO UP FOR SOME. IT'LL GO DOWN FOR SOME. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED NUMBERS.

IT WOULD GO DOWN ABOUT 74,000. AFTER THE CALCULATIONS, INCLUDING THE NEW NEW BUILDS OF 22 220 000 MINUS THE DEDUCTION. SO YES, WE'RE STILL DOWN 74,000. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ONLY REFLECTIVE BECAUSE OF THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS COMING BACK TO REALITY INSTEAD OF BEING SKYROCKETED HIGH. IF THERE WAS NO MORE DISCUSSION I'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE. MR. HALL. I APPROVE, MR. BENEFIELD. NAY, MISS CHAVARRIA NAY, MAYOR PRO TEM APPROVE. I'M IN A MISS VANESS. I APPROVE, MR. PRINCE, I APPROVE. IT IS APPROVED FOR THREE. I'M OPEN TO A MOTION ON ACTION ITEM THREE. I THINK THIS GOES BACK THE SAME STUFF THAT YOU HAVE. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 26-09-17-02. ADOPTING A TOTAL TAX RATE OF 0.451988 PER

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YEP. MR. BENEFIELD, FOR CLARIFICATION, DOES IT NOT REQUIRE A 5 TO 60% VOTE? WHICH ONE FOR THE TAX RATE? I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP. MR. BENEFIELD. I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND.

MAYBE LOOK THAT UP RIGHT NOW. YEAH. IN THE PACKET IT SAYS THAT A 60 PLUS PERCENT VOTE IS REQUIRED TO ADOPT THAT RATE. SO I COULD BE WRONG AS WELL. BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT I THOUGHT IT SAID IN THE PACKET. WE CAN DO A FEW ACTION ITEMS WHILE YOU LOOK THAT UP. LOOK THAT UP, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. I WAS GOING TO SKIP DOWN SINCE WE KIND OF GOT INTO THAT CONVERSATION. MR.

[X.6. Discussion, consideration, and possible action regarding interim filtration for the Lago Vista Golf Course effluent irrigation system, including authorization for staff to obtain pricing via a change order for installation of flushing WYE strainers]

ONE IS A Y FILTER WITHIN THE PUMP STATION THAT'S BEING BUILT. ONE IS AN ADDITIONAL FILTER AT PUMP 17. AND DURING THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING, WE ACTUALLY INSTRUCTED THE CONTRACTOR TO PUT A LINE ITEM WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BASICALLY INSTALL A Y STRAINER BEFORE IT EVEN GOT INTO THE POND AT POND TWO. SO THERE IS A ALLOCATED BUDGET WITHIN THE CONTRACT ALREADY FOR A Y STRAINER BEFORE IT ENTERS THE POND. BUT REVIEWING THAT, IT'S IT'S ONLY FOR PARTS. IT'S NOT FOR THE ENCLOSURE BECAUSE A Y STRAINER IS BEST INSTALLED ABOVE GROUND TO ALLOW FOR. WHEN YOU BASICALLY DO THE MAINTENANCE ON IT, IT'LL. IT'LL ACTUALLY ALLOW YOU TO DRAIN IT WITHOUT FLOODING THE VAULT. SO I'M WORKING WITH THEM RIGHT NOW TO BASICALLY ENSURE THAT THEY GET THOSE PARTS, HAVE THEM DO THAT SUBMITTAL. AND THERE WOULD BE A Y STRAINER INSTALLED BEFORE WE EVEN FILL UP THE POND. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. SO THERE'S STILL A PORTION OF IT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PAID. AND I'LL GLADLY

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YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING WE WANT IS A LOT OF PLASTIC AND OTHER TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT WE'VE SEEN CLOGGING THE EXISTING SYSTEM INTRODUCED INTO THE NEW SYSTEM. YES. AND THIS WAS WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THAT WAS ALWAYS THE GOAL FROM THE EVEN BEFORE WE THE CONTRACTOR GOT OUT THERE WAS TO ENSURE THAT POND. TWO THAT'S WHY IT HASN'T. THAT'S WHY IT'S STILL RELATIVELY NOT. OR IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN FILLED ALL.

ALL THAT'S BEEN IN THERE IS RAINWATER, AND WE'RE STILL NOT GOING TO FILL IT UNTIL THAT FILTER GETS PUT IN. BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, ONCE YOU ONCE IT ENTERS THAT POND, THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT CAN BE DONE. WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTION ON THE COMPLETION OF THE IRRIGATION PROJECT? MORE PROBABLY AROUND NOVEMBER TIME, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF NOVEMBER. OKAY. MR. PRINCE, I MR. BENEFIELD, YOU SAID I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T REPLY.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY REPLIES FROM STAFF ON THAT NOTE EITHER, WHICH WAS MY MAIN CONCERN BECAUSE IT FELT LIKE WE WERE TRYING TO TELL STAFF HOW TO DO THEIR JOB AS ENGINEERING. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE STRAINING CLEANING OUT IS ALREADY IN THE DESIGN THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON. WHAT I'M UNCLEAR ON IS WHAT MR. STEWART OR WHAT MR. BENEFIELD ARE CALLING FOR. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE PLANNED? AND IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN ADDITION, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THAT? IS THERE VALUE IN DOING IT? SO I THINK FROM THE EMAIL, THE ONLY QUESTION IN REGARD IS THIS WOULD BE LOCATED AT POND TWO. IN THE EMAIL. THEY WANTED IT AT THE GRAVITY PIPE BEFORE IT ENTERS POND 17. THAT BRINGS UP A WHOLE A LOT OF OTHER CONCERNS. INSTALLING A WIRE STRAINER ON A GRAVITY PIPE, MAINTENANCE POTENTIAL OF IT, BACKING UP THE PLANT. SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT TO INSTALL IT THERE, BUT TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S AT POND 17 OR AT POND TWO, AND SPEAK WITH FRIESEN, NICHOLS AND JORDAN WHILE WE'RE REHABBING. POND 17, LOOK AT ALTERNATES BEFORE WE EVEN GET THIS FILTER. BASICALLY TO INSTALL A FILTER AT THE GRAVITY PIPE THAT WOULD NOT RUN THE POTENTIAL OF BACKING UP THE PLANT. SO I'M UNCLEAR IS THE PLAN THAT STAFF HAS GOOD AND WILL LET THEM GO WITH THAT OR, MR. BENEFIELD, ARE YOU ASKING FOR SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THAT AT THIS POINT? YEAH, NO, THE ONLY THING THAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THAT THE FILTRATION BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION SO THAT A YEAR FROM NOW WE'RE NOT HAVING FAILURES IN THE VALVES AND HEADS. AND THE RESPONSE BE, I REALLY JUST WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD FILTRATION AFTER POND TWO. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY INTERPRETATION. NEVER ON A GRAVITY FEED ON ON 17 BUT RATHER COMING OUT OF POND TWO AS IT'S BEING INJECTED INTO THE SYSTEM, HAVING ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO FILTER THAT WATER WHICH IS PUMPED, WHICH IS PRESSURIZED. YEAH. THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. OH YEAH. I MEAN, YEAH, WE'RE KIND OF ALREADY ON BOARD WITH THAT, BUT WE'VE ALREADY PROGRESSED THAT WAY. SO BUT YOU'RE THE LEAD ON THIS.

AND SO I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT. I JUST REALLY WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD AS IF ADDITIONAL FILTRATION IS NEEDED TEMPORARILY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO SEE IF THERE WAS CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT BEING CONSIDERED WHILE THEY'RE INSTALLING IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. VICTOR, ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY ACTION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE ON THIS OR WE'LL MOVE ON? LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOOD TO MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM.

BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, LET ME JUST JUMP BACK IN ON THE THE THE 60% VOTE. SO UNDER THE TAX CODE 26.05 B, A 60% VOTE IS REQUIRED ONLY WHEN THE ADOPTED TAX RATE EXCEEDS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

SO IF YOU ARE AT OR BELOW THE NEW NEW URBAN RATE, THEN YOU DON'T NEED THE 60%. SO IT'S ONLY IF IT'S YOU'RE GOING OVER AND I THINK YOU DIDN'T GO OVER. RIGHT. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT APPLIES ACCORDING TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE. I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IN THERE

[X.4. Discussion, consideration, and possible action regarding Resolution No. 26-2224, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Lago Vista, Texas, appointing an individual to fill a vacancy on the Planning & Zoning Commission]

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AND HE'S HE'S WORKING IT. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A PLAN TO BE TO BE COMPLETED. BUT DIRECTIONALLY, YES, STAFF WILL, WILL DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND SO THEN THAT GETS US TO WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN AT A COMMISSION LEVEL. SHOULD WE LEAVE IT WITH THE SIX MEMBERS OR APPOINT A SEVENTH MEMBER TO JOIN? IN MY VIEW IS THAT THE PERSON WHO RESIGNED WAS PROBABLY THE MOST ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN PLANNING AND ZONING, AND SO IT'S APPROPRIATE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO HAS PLANNING AND ZONING EXPERIENCE AND AND KNOWLEDGE OF BOTH THE PROCESS AND ORDINANCES OF THE CITY. AND SO I, I WOULD ASSERT THAT, THAT WE SHOULD APPOINT SOMEONE. AND, AND SO I WOULD I WOULD ASK MR. MAYOR, IF, IF I CAN CALL FOR CONSENSUS AMONG COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER WE SHOULD APPOINT SOMEONE OR. THE CONSENSUS IS THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. TO STAY WITH THE CURRENT SIX MEMBERS THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, I WOULD I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING SOMEONE. SO.

OKAY. COUNCIL, DO YOU IS THERE A CONSENSUS THAT WE SHOULD APPOINT SOMEONE RIGHT NOW? MR. BENEFIELD, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO APPOINTING SOMEBODY, BUT I THINK I THINK COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS, BOARDS, THEY OPERATE ALL THE TIME WITH A VACANCY. THEY OPERATE ALL THE TIME WITH SOMEBODY NOT SHOWING UP OR BEING SICK. I THINK P AND Z IS MORE THAN CAPABLE. WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SERVING THERE, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CAPABLE INDIVIDUALS. AND SO I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS LETTING THEM OPERATE ON. SIX. BUT IF IT'S THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO GO WITH AN EXTRA PERSON, I'M CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST IT, BUT I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS LEAVING IT AS IT IS. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BENEFIELD. I'M COMFORTABLE LEAVING IT AT SIX. I THINK WE HAVE VERY ABLE PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL NOW, AND IT'S SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? MR. I WAS ORIGINALLY OPPOSED TO LEAVING IT AT SIX, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SOME SOME SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE MADE OVER THE NEXT THREE MONTHS AND SHOULD BE MADE. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT I MIGHT WANT TO APPOINT MIGHT HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BY BEING ON OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPOINTMENT. I MIGHT HAVE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BECAUSE THEY ARE ON OTHER THEY ARE SERVING ON OTHER BOARDS. SO GIVEN THAT ASPECT, I'M OKAY WITH LEAVING IT AT SIX. WE HOPEFULLY WON'T HAVE TO COME TO ANY SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT. AND IF IT DOES, PLANNING AND ZONING IS BASICALLY JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. IF THAT'S YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE COUNCIL ULTIMATELY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SEND IT BACK TO THEM, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, AS, AS AS YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS BASED OFF OF. SO I'M OKAY WITH LEAVING IT AT SIX, EVEN THOUGH I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A MORE EXPERIENCED GROUP OF MEMBERS ON THERE. I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT GROUPING IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE INTERIM. OKAY. ANY OTHERS? SO THAT WAS THREE TO KEEP IT AT SIX, ONE TO GO FORWARD. I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND

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[X.5. Discussion, consideration, and possible action regarding the official ballot for the election of Places 1 4 of the Board of Trustees for the Texas Municipal League Intergovernmental Risk Pool (TMLIRP), including recording the City’s selections.]

PLACE THREE. CECIL A HUDSON PLACE FOUR. AUSTIN. BLISS. BLISS, PLEASE. YEAH, I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. BENEFIELD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND FROM MISS CHAVARRIA. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE

[X.7. Approve the minutes of the September 3, 2026, City Council Meeting.]

[XI.1. Discussion and possible action on upcoming strategic planning dates.]

WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN FROM SSGR NAMED MIKE MOWREY. THE MAYOR HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OR TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEFLY VISIT WITH HIM. WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ON YOUR SCHEDULES AND GET SOME DATES NAILED DOWN. THAT WILL LIKELY BE TWO FOUR HOUR SESSIONS, TWO 4 TO 5 HOUR SESSIONS IF YOU WILL. SO TWO DAYS. AND TYPICALLY THE STAFF IS INVOLVED IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE SECOND DAY. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS NORMALLY MAKE ME A BIT

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NOVEMBER 12TH TO THE 13TH, NOVEMBER 16TH TO 17TH. AND I THINK HE TOLD ME OCTOBER 19TH WAS AN OPTION AS WELL. OKAY, YOU GOT MINE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE HE HAS THE RIGHT. YES. OKAY. SO WE HAD MR. BENEFIELD, THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND JENNIFER OCTOBER 29TH AND 30TH. AND THEN ON THE 16TH OF 20, SAME AVAILABILITY. SO BETWEEN OCTOBER 29TH AND 30TH OR NOVEMBER 16TH TO THE 20TH. SO I HAD RESPONDED, I CAN'T MAKE THE 16TH 17TH. IF WE DID SOMETHING MORE ON A WEEKEND, I COULD, I THINK I SAID THE 12TH TO 13TH WOULD WORK BETTER, OR I COULD MAKE THE OCTOBER DATES SO I CAN MAKE DATES. I CAN'T MAKE THE OCTOBER DATES UNLESS IT WAS THE OCTOBER 19TH. IT'S NOT ON HERE THOUGH, SO I'LL JUST GO WITH THE DATES THAT HE HAS LISTED INSTEAD OF WHAT I HAD HEARD. WHAT ABOUT. WERE YOU ALL AVAILABLE AT ALL IN THE NOVEMBER 4TH TO THE SIXTH ONES? OR ACTUALLY, DON'T WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING ON THE FIFTH? YES. SO THAT'S PROBLEMATIC. I'D BE WILLING TO IF YOU HOLD IT ON THE 29TH AND 30TH, SEND MY NOTES IN OR SOMETHING, I CAN. YEAH, I'M AT A CONFERENCE IN VEGAS. I CAN'T LET ME ASK THIS.

IS THERE A ARE THERE TWO DATES? EVEN IF THEY'RE SPLIT THAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL COULD BE THERE? ARE THERE TWO DATES ON THERE? EVEN IF THEY'RE SPLIT, IF ONE IS, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 WEEKS, I DON'T KNOW THE TIME FRAME FROM THE DATES THAT ARE LISTED, BUT EVEN IF IT'S SPLIT, ARE THERE TWO DATES THAT THE COUNCIL COULD MEET? I'M WILLING TO BEND TO TRY TO MAKE THE 29TH AND 30TH WORK IN SOME WAY. OCTOBER 19TH AND THE 21ST, HE CHANGED THAT. IT'S OCTOBER 19TH TO THE 21ST, WELL, NOT THE 29TH. OKAY. SO OCTOBER 19TH TO THE 21ST IS A MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY. I CAN MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, SATURDAYS ARE MY HARDEST DAYS TO CHANGE AROUND DUE TO CLIENT COMMITMENTS, SO ANYTHING INVOLVING A MONDAY WOULD BE A NO GO FOR ME. UNFORTUNATELY, FRIDAY TO SATURDAY OR THURSDAY TO FRIDAY, OR IF WE SPLIT IT DOING TUESDAYS, THAT'S POSSIBLE.

HE DID ORIGINALLY PUT DOWN NOVEMBER 4TH THROUGH SIX. WE COULD SHOOT FOR OUR A LIGHT NOVEMBER 5TH AGENDA. COULD WE MAKE PART OF THIS FIRST PART OF STRATEGIC PLANNING ON THAT COUNCIL NIGHT, AND THEN WE COME BACK ON FRIDAY OR SATURDAY. WE SPLIT IT UP. MR. MAYOR, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY DO THE BEST WE CAN. IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE, WE ARE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A SHOCK TO STAFF, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING A AGENDA PLANNING PROCESS WHERE WE'LL LOOK A COUPLE MONTHS AHEAD JUST TO SEE AND PUT THINGS AS PLACEHOLDERS ON AGENDA. SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION YET, BUT WE CAN WE CAN TRY TO DO THAT IF

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CAN I INQUIRE ABOUT THE ACTUAL TIME TIME RANGE? BECAUSE THAT REALLY AFFECTS MY AVAILABILITY.

I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IN THE EARLY IN THE DAY BETWEEN 8 AND 5, OR ARE WE TALKING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING BETWEEN LIKE NOON AND FOUR, 4 TO 8? WHAT TIME FRAMES ARE WE LOOKING AT? THAT'S PARTICULARLY UP TO THE COUNCIL. I WOULD SUGGEST WE BE TALKING FOR HOURS.

IF IT STARTS BLEEDING INTO FIVE OR AS IT STARTS BLEEDING INTO FIVE. THE COUNCIL'S THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST USUALLY GET TAXED AND FATIGUED, SO WE USUALLY TALK FOR MAYBE 4.5 HOURS. IT COULD BE ANY A MPM THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL. I'M GOING BACK TO FULL TIME STATUS EMPLOYMENT. SO EVENINGS ARE PREFERRED FOR ME. SO FOUR HOURS IN THE EVENING IS I KNOW IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ROUGH FOR SOME, BUT THEY I'M WILLING TO KIND OF WORK. AND IF IT NEEDS TO BE DURING THE DAY, AS LONG AS I HAVE ADVANCED ENOUGH NOTICE, I CAN TAKE OFF. OKAY.

THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WHERE WE NEED TO CONTINUE THROUGH EMAIL, MAYBE WITH Y'ALL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR DATES COULD BE. SO WHAT WE WILL DO, BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME ALTERNATE DATES, PERHAPS WE'LL KEEP THOSE DATES ON THERE BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE DATES MR. MURRAY IS AVAILABLE, BUT SEE IF THERE'S SOME ALTERNATE DATES AND SEE IF THERE IS A ANOTHER FACILITATOR THAT CAN. IT STILL BOTHERS ME. I DON'T KNOW WHY I'VE DONE THIS SO OFTEN, BUT SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER FACILITATOR THAT CAN HELP US OUT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND AGAIN, MR. MAYOR, IF WE AGREE UPON THAT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A CHANCE TO CHAT WITH HER OR HIM. THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADVISE THE COUNCIL IS THAT WHOEVER THE FACILITATOR IS, I'VE ASKED THAT THEY MAKE SURE THEY TALK TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE A PHONE OR A VIRTUAL INTERVIEW IN ADVANCE OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.

OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO SEND SOME MORE DATES, SEE WHAT WE CAN GET PUT TOGETHER, HOPEFULLY IN OCTOBER. OKAY. SORRY, WE TRIED. KAREN. YOU'RE MOSTLY AVAILABLE IN THE EVENINGS AS WELL. IS THAT CORRECT? IT DEPENDS ON THE EVENING. YEAH. I MEAN WORKING AROUND THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE MEETINGS OR LINES OR. BUT YOU KNOW FOR SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

YES. FLEXIBILITY FOR SURE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO READ THESE ALL TOGETHER AND I'M

[Item XII.A & XII.B]

AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S BEEN PRETTY DEEPLY HURT BY THIS. AND WE KNOW MANY WANT TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS AND WHAT THE CITY MAY ALSO BE DOING. I FELT THAT IT WAS TOO SOON TO REALLY DIVE INTO A DEEP POLICY DISCUSSION ON THIS. RIGHT NOW, IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN A WEEK, BUT WHAT I COMMITTED TO DO WAS HAVE CHIEF BE AVAILABLE TO COUNSEL FOR US TO GIVE ANY DIRECTION THAT WE WANT FOR ANYTHING FOR THEM TO RESEARCH CHIEF OR ANYONE ON STAFF, THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO RESEARCH. AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK ON THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING AND HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION.

IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU THINK WARRANT US COMING BACK AND TALKING DEEPER ABOUT. SO AGAIN, MY ASK IS IF WE DON'T GO DEEP INTO POLICY, BUT GIVE YOUR DIRECTION TO STAFF OF IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT, LET THEM GO RESEARCH THAT AND BRING IT BACK

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AND WE'VE ALSO MADE POSTERS. THIS IS THE SIZE OF THE POSTER. WE'VE PLACED THESE POSTERS IN ALL OF THE SCHOOLS. WE'VE ALSO PLACED THESE STARTED PLACING THESE POSTERS IN BUSINESSES.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THE EDUCATIONAL POSTERS ARE AVAILABLE AND FLIERS ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR POLICE FOYER. ON AUGUST THE 1ST, WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF WORKING WITH THE HOPE CENTER WHEN THEY DID A BACK TO SCHOOL EVENT, AND WE HELD AN E-BIKE PROFICIENCY COURSE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY, SET UP A COURSE TO TRY TO HELP CHILDREN KNOW WHAT KIND OF WAYS TO BE SAFE AND WHAT THE LAWS ARE, AND EDUCATE THE PARENTS, BECAUSE IT WAS THE HOPE CENTER'S BACK TO SCHOOL BASH. THEY ACTUALLY, I'M CONSERVATIVELY SAYING, OVER 300.

THERE WAS 352 CHILDREN THAT WERE GIVEN BACKPACKS. WE STRATEGICALLY PLACED OURSELVES AND OUR BOOTHS WHERE WE SAW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. AND SO WE GOT TO EDUCATE CHILDREN AND PARENTS ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT MOST SPECIFICALLY E-BIKE SAFETY. WE HAD A PRESENTATION UP, WE HAD HANDOUTS. WE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PARENTS AND CHILDREN ON THAT. AND THEN WE'RE OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS ON OCTOBER 6TH. E-BIKE SAFETY AND THE LAWS SURROUNDING IT WILL BE A BIG PART OF THAT AS WELL. TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THE STATISTICS SHOW. AND JUST LIKE ANY STATISTIC, THEY DON'T GIVE YOU THE TRUE PICTURE. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS LINE, I KNOW THE PUBLIC CAN'T SEE THIS, BUT FROM JANUARY TO YEAR TO DATE, WE'VE HAD 99 CALLS ON E-BIKES. SOME OF THOSE ARE

[02:25:01]

SOME COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE LEGITIMATE WALKING TRAILS, THEY BAN E-BIKES ON SIDEWALKS OR ON WALKING TRAILS. AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SIDEWALKS EXCEPT IN TESSERA. SOME COMMUNITIES, LIKE IF YOU DRIVE IN AUSTIN, YOU'LL SEE THE BIKE LANES THAT THEY ESTABLISH A SET BIKE LANE THAT HELPS BIKE RIDERS BE A LITTLE MORE PROTECTED. SOME COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY YOUR LARGER ONES, ARE INCREASING THAT AGE OF HELMET REQUIREMENT UP TO 18. SO ANYONE UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE MUST WEAR A HELMET. A FEW TOWNS. THIS IS NOT HAPPENING A LOT, BUT A FEW TOWNS ARE EVEN REQUIRING PEOPLE TO REGISTER. THE ONE BENEFIT OF THAT IS IF THEY'RE IF THEY REGISTER, THEN YOU CAN TELL THEM THAT'S AN ILLEGAL E-BIKE OR NOT. BUT AGAIN, WHEN I TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, YOU'LL SEE WHY THAT MAY BE PROBLEMATIC.

AND THEN E-BIKES ARE CURRENTLY BANNED ON ALL STATE PARK TRAILS. AND IN STATE OF TEXAS, THE CHALLENGE WITH ENFORCING ANY KIND OF LAWS. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF LAWS ON THE BOOKS, STATE LAWS ON THE BOOKS, A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH WITH ENFORCING THAT. AS MANY TIMES WHEN WE GET THESE CALLS, THESE 99 CALLS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, BY THE TIME OUR OFFICERS GET THERE, THEY'RE GONE. AND THAT GOES WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE GET CALLED TO, NOT JUST E-BIKES. PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO LOCATE MANY TIMES. OFTENTIMES WHEN WE DO APPROACH E-BIKES, A GROUP OF E-BIKES, THEY JUST SCATTER AND, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY'RE COMMITTING A VIOLENT FELONY, WE HAVE A NO PURSUIT POLICY. SO WE DON'T CHASE E-BIKES, JUST LIKE WE DON'T CHASE CARS UNLESS IT'S A VIOLENT FELONY. AND THEN. THE GENERALLY, THE E-BIKE COMPLAINTS CONSIST OF DANGEROUS OPERATING BEHAVIOR AND OR MISDEMEANORS. AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S PROHIBITED FOR US PURSUING. I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE THE PROBLEM AT HAND. OKAY.

WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND WHAT, WHAT COULD BE DONE TO PREVENT IT? SO HERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HEARD. THIS IS FROM CITIZENS AND SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT CAN YOU DO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING? WHAT IS THERE SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE THAT I COULD TELL YOU? Y'ALL SHOULD CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE, THE THE, THE OPERATOR IN THIS INCIDENT WAS ALREADY VIOLATING A NUMBER OF STATE LAWS. SO A NEW ORDINANCE IN MY MIND IS NOT GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM AT HAND. THIS WAS AN UNLICENSED MINOR OPERATING A WHAT IS IN EFFECT, A UNREGISTERED MOTORCYCLE. IT'S AN E MOTO. IT WAS NOT CLASSIFIED AS AN E-BIKE. HE WAS OPERATING WITHOUT WEARING A HELMET. SO HE'S ALREADY VIOLATING OUR CITY ORDINANCES FOR 14 AND UNDER. MUST WEAR A HELMET IF HE WAS ON AN E-BIKE, BUT HE WAS ON A MOTORCYCLE. SO THE MOTORCYCLE AGE IS REQUIRED. YOU HAVE TO WEAR HELMET, AND IF YOU'RE UNDER 21. AND THEN THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT IS INFORMATIONAL TO YOU OF THE UNSAFE CONDITIONS OF THE VEHICLE. AND I'D RATHER LEAVE IT AT THAT AND LET YOU READ THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON THERE. SO WOULD A NEW LAW HELP? HE WAS ALREADY BREAKING THE LAW. THE OTHER THING THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT QUITE EXTENSIVELY IS, WELL, THE REASON THEY'RE

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THANK YOU. MR. O'BRIEN. I HAD PREVIOUSLY BROUGHT THIS UP WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND BRINGING FORTH RECOMMENDATIONS ON E-BIKES AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A REGISTRATION, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE ENFORCEABILITY OF THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. THE BENEFIT OF THOSE PROGRAMS, THOUGH, ARE SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, RECORDING THIS, THE SERIAL NUMBER ON THEM, AND THESE ARE

[02:35:01]

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THOSE DONE. SO FOR RECOVERY PURPOSES. IT'S GREAT. BUT IT'S ALSO VERY HELPFUL IN IDENTIFYING BICYCLES THAT HAVE BEEN MODIFIED. GOVERNORS REMOVED, ALTERED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE REQUIRING THEM TO BRING IN THE BICYCLE FOR EVALUATION FOR REGISTRATION. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY TIRED OF ME HEARING OR HEARING THIS, BUT WHERE I'M FROM, WE HAVE THAT REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT REQUIRES A FRONT HEADLIGHT, A REAR BRAKE LIGHT, WHICH IS STATE LAW FOR RIDING AT NIGHT. AND THEN IT'S A JUST A ONE TIME ANNUAL OR SOMETIMES IT'S ANNUAL, BUT IT'S A ONE TIME FEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST COVERS THE COST OF THE STICKER THAT SHOWS CITY OF LAGO, VISTA, CITY OF WHEREVER IT IS, AND IT TIES IT BACK. AND IT HELPS IDENTIFY BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THESE PARENTS ARE REALLY UNAWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE BUYING FOR THEM. AND THEN WHEN I POINTED IT OUT SEVERAL TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN 800 WATT OR A, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE GOES 50 MILES AN HOUR OR DAD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL TO MODIFY. THE GOVERNOR TOOK THE TOOK THE THE PEDALS OFF AND PUT PEGS ON IT.

YOU'RE ULTIMATELY CHANGING THE CLASSIFICATION OF BIKE. AND SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING A DISCUSSION THAT CAN GO FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY ATTENTION CAN NOW BE BROUGHT BACK TOWARDS A SOME INVOLVEMENT FOR THAT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND, AND I HATE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, A TRAGEDY WILL BRING A COMMUNITY TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT HAS HAPPENED. BUT I THINK THAT THE APPETITE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF FOR THIS DISCUSSION, I WANT TO SAY THAT I WOKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO THAT CRASH, AND IT WAS MY DAUGHTER'S 16TH BIRTHDAY THE NEXT DAY, AND JUST KIND OF ROUGH. SO BUT THEN WHEN I LEARNED THE DETAILS OF IT, IT WAS EVEN WORSE BECAUSE WE RIDE E-BIKES AS WELL, YOU KNOW, AND I USED TO OWN A BICYCLE SHOP, BUT I ALSO KNOW ABOUT SAFETY AND THE HELMETS AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH IT. SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO GOING FORWARD, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK INTO THE REGISTRATION ASPECT. ENFORCEABILITY. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PART BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, WHY SHOULD I? BUT I THINK THIS IS NOW WHY YOU SHOULD. YEAH. SO THE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.

SOME PEOPLE WILL BRING IT IN AND, AND MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION NOT TO, NOT TO CONTINUE PURCHASING THAT BIKE OR SELL IT AND PURCHASE A SMALLER ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY LEGAL. BUT THE PROBLEM IS ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU PLACE THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE IT? WE CAN'T STOP THEM. WE CAN'T. IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO CATCH THEM. AND SO IT REMINDS ME OF WHEN I WAS IN THE HIGHWAY PATROL, I TESTIFIED BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE ON. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET A BILL PASSED IN TEXAS WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW LANE SPLITTING FOR MOTORCYCLES. AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW CONGESTED TRAFFIC IS AND HOW MOTORCYCLES CAN SAFELY GO, AS LONG AS THE SPEED LIMIT IS 15 MILES AN HOUR OR UNDER. THAT'S WHAT THE LAW IS IN CALIFORNIA. AND THE REASON, IN MY OPINION, THE REASON IT DIDN'T PASS IS BECAUSE OF ENFORCEABILITY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONGESTED TRAFFIC. SO LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T ENFORCE WHEN SOMEONE IS NOT SAFELY LANE SPLITTING. SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE A LANE SPLITTING LEGAL IN TEXAS, THANK GOODNESS, BECAUSE IT IS VERY DANGEROUS AND IT'S UNENFORCEABLE. AND THEY DO IT HERE ANYWAY. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM, I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID HERE, BUT I WILL SAY. I'VE HAD MULTIPLE PARENTS IN DIFFERENT VENUES AROUND TOWN ASK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAW IS. I HAVEN'T SEEN AS MUCH AS YOU'VE DONE. IT HASN'T COME ON THE RADAR. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THEIR DAILY LIVES ARE NOT SEEKING. THEY MAY BE NOW AT THIS TIME, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THEY TEND TO NOT COME TO THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, FOR INFORMATION. IT WAS ENLIGHTENING TO ME THAT.

NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK INFORMATION CAMPAIGNS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AT THE RESTAURANTS WHILE PEOPLE ARE EATING, HAVING, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO PUTTING THEM OUT AT THE BUSINESSES ALREADY. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT'S ALL THE ABOVE, AND IT WILL TAKE THE COMMUNITY DOING ALL THE ABOVE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. MR. HALL.

CERTAINLY, EDUCATION IS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AND IN THE LISTING OF ILLEGAL BIKES,

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AND SO IF YOUR CAR YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN AND SUDDENLY A KID IN AN E-BIKE POPS RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU, IT MIGHT BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO STOP FAST ENOUGH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST EDUCATING AGAIN, BEST, BEST POSSIBLE. ONE OF OUR CITIZENS SENT US A, YOU KNOW, A ELABORATE, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS OF THE SAFETY ISSUES AND, AND A PROPOSED ORDINANCE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE THERE YET, OR WE CAN EVEN ENFORCE IT. BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO. AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF IF IF THE POLICE SEE AN ILLEGAL. VEHICLE OR ILLEGAL BIKE, EVEN CONSIDERING IMPOUNDING, IT MAY BE A, MAYBE A, I GUESS YOU CAN'T CHASE THEM. SO THERE'S NO WAY OF CATCHING, CATCHING THAT.

BUT BUT THAT MAY BE AN ACTION THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER DOWN THE ROAD. THANK YOU. SHARIA. I DO WANT TO SECOND MY FAVOR OF SEIZURE AND IMPOUNDMENT OF ILLEGALLY OPERATED VEHICLES ON OUR MOTORWAYS. THAT IS AN OPTION THAT I HAVE SEEN CITIES TAKE. IT'S NOT A FAVORABLE ONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE PUTTING OUT THIS MUCH MONEY. BUT IN THE LIGHT OF THINGS, I WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE CAME ACROSS ACROSS THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EXECUTE. MR. BENEFIELD. I'LL RESERVE MY POLICY DISCUSSIONS FOR THE OCTOBER MEETING. BUT, CHIEF JOE, I JUST WANT TO SAY I JUST CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER, MORE CALM AND CAPABLE DEMEANOR THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THIS DISCUSSION. THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT COULD HANDLE THIS WITH AS MUCH DIGNITY AS YOU HAVE. AND, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT OF YOU BEING OUT THERE ALL NIGHT CONSOLING THE FAMILY. I MEAN, JUST, YOU ARE THE RIGHT MAN. AND I JUST APPRECIATE, AND I'M SO SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO EXPERIENCE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST I'M JUST GLAD THAT YOU WERE THERE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS DISCUSSION IN OCTOBER, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWERS. AND THIS MATERIAL HERE IS FANTASTIC. AND THANK YOU.

YES. IF I COULD SAY THE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU YOU THINK SOMETIMES IT'S JUST LAGO VISTA PD OUT THERE HOLDING THE FORT DOWN. AND I TRIED TO PUT THIS IN THE PRESS RELEASE, BUT THERE WERE SO MANY AGENCIES THAT WERE HELPFUL THAT NIGHT. JONESTOWN POLICE, OF COURSE, THEY'RE ALWAYS PARTNERING WITH US. THEY'RE OUR CLOSEST NEIGHBOR, THE FIREFIGHTERS SD ONE DID AN AMAZING JOB OF TRYING TO SAVE THIS YOUNG MAN AND STAYED THERE ALL NIGHT LONG HELPING US. SO EVEN THOUGH THERE THE DANGER WAS NO LONGER THERE, THEY'RE STILL THERE ALL NIGHT LONG. A BUNCH OF GREAT HEROES THERE. TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS THERE ALL NIGHT AS WELL. AND WE EVEN HAD THE THE FIRE MARSHAL, WHICH WAS UNUSUAL, BUT THEY WERE OUT ALL NIGHT WITH US AS WELL. LOTS OF PEOPLE COME OUT TO HELP AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYBODY. SO IT'S IT'S NOT ME OUT THERE ALL BY MYSELF. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT GREAT OFFICERS AT LAGO VISTA PD, AND WE'RE SURROUNDED BY FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARE WONDERFUL AND HELPFUL. CHIEF WEIDMANN, THE CHIEF, WAS OUT THERE ALL NIGHT LONG WITH US FROM SD ONE. THANK YOU. YEAH. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I GUESS THE ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON IS THE HOW CITIES WERE CREATING THE BIKE LANES ON ROADWAYS. I KIND OF BROUGHT THIS IDEA FORWARD ONCE BEFORE. I ENDED UP SPENDING MOST OF MY TIME TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES IN THE CEDAR BREAKS TRAILS. AND THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE ALL THESE REASONS FOR NOT. BUT PART OF THAT IDEA WAS THIS ALSO THAT THERE ARE CITIES I'M AWARE OF THAT TAKE THE EXISTING LANES THAT THEY HAVE. THEY NARROW THEM. THEY SET ASIDE THE RIGHT SIDE, THEY PAINT IT, AND NOW IT'S A BIKE LANE. HIGHLAND LAKES DRIVE,

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AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THE CITY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO HAVING A WAIVER FOR THAT TABLE, CONSIDERING THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY A VENDOR. WELL, THEY'RE ALSO SEEKING CHRISTMAS LEADERSHIP FOR FOR THE DECORATIONS THAT THEY NORMALLY PUT ON FOR THE CITY. SO IF ANY, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO KIND OF HELP, YOU KNOW, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT CLUB ALWAYS NEEDS HELP PUTTING OUT CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS. AND I THINK THAT WE SPEARHEADED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, BUT WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR MORE VOLUNTEERS. I DID WANT TO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO OUR OUTGOING PRESIDENT, JANICE DIDIER. AND ALL THE CLUB MEMBERS FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND SERVICE. THEIR NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE OCTOBER 8TH AT 6 P.M. IN THE LIBRARY CONFERENCE ROOM. IN THE INTERIM, THERE WAS SOME QUESTION AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK AND POSSIBLY STAFF FEEDBACK. CONSIDERING THE FINANCIAL AND BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, THERE IS SOME CONCERN IN THE TIME BETWEEN THEY ACTUALLY GET THEIR 503 C CERTIFICATION. HOW DO THEY CONTINUE ON WITH SUBMITTING REIMBURSEMENT RECEIPT REQUESTS TO THE CITY? ADDITIONALLY, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GO ABOUT PROCUREMENT FOR MATERIALS? ARE THEY STILL ALLOWED TO GO TO ACE AND SON HARDWARE AND AND USE THE EIN OR THE I'M SORRY, THE TAX TAX NUMBER? SO THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I'M POSING FOR STAFF. IF NICOLE IF YOU CAN GO WITH THEM ON THAT. AND THEN IF THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. IF WE ARE SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY FOR PROCUREMENT OF MATERIALS, WHO THAT CONTACT PERSON WOULD BE ON, ON, ON OBTAINING THAT WORK ORDER OR ORDERING SUPPLIES AND, AND DISPERSAL. THAT'S NOT THE ROUTE THAT THEY EVENTUALLY WANT TO GO. BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BRIDGE IN BETWEEN UNTIL WE GET TO THAT 503 OR 501 C THREE STATUS. SO UNTIL THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WORK CAN STILL CONTINUE FOR THEM. I HOPE THAT WAS COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL THERE? NOTHING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.