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OKAY.WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
AND MARLENE IS GONNA BE HERE LATER.
WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE ARE, THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
UH, A LOT OF DAY, YOU KNOW, STUFF GOING ON.
WE NEED TO EXCHANGE SOME IDEAS AND INFORMATION.
NO VOTING ACTION REALLY, BUT - COUPLE PRESENTATIONS.
YEAH, A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
WE CERTAINLY ARE GONNA HEAR ABOUT BIKE SAFETY.
UM, AND THERE'S SEVERAL TOPICS TO DISCUSS, BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW THAT.
UM, UH, BEFORE WE START THOUGH, I WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF OUR PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE WHO ARE HERE AND AREN'T HERE, UM, OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES ON, UM, LAGO VISTA POLICE SERGEANT BRANDON CAREY.
YOU KNOW, I'M SURE HE'LL BE MISSED AND I KNOW HE SERVED FOR 12 YEARS, BUT, UH, HIS SERVICE WAS MUCH APPRECIATED.
I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
SO, UM, SO THE FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO IS, UM, CITIZEN COMMENTS.
AND WE'VE GOT ONE HERE FROM - WELL - WE CAN JUGGLE IT AROUND.
YEAH, USUALLY, UH, THE REPORTS ARE AFTER.
[II. CITIZEN COMMENTS]
AHEAD AND DO THE, THE, UM, CITIZEN COMMENTS AND, UH, WE'VE GOT LINDA AIR HERE.SO, AND THIS IS A NON-AGENDA ITEM, BUT SHE WANTED TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE THINGS.
SO THE REASON I'M HERE IS, OKAY, BECAUSE AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M NOT A PARKS PERSON, BUT I AM AN HOA PERSON.
I'M REALLY INVOLVED IN HOA STATUTES AND RULES AND REGS, AND I HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS.
AND SO, UM, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO, SINCE THE TECERA, UM, PARK ISSUE BECAME KNOWN LIKE FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO ATTENTION THAT, UM, PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO.
SO I THOUGH YOU GUYS MIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE PARKS PEOPLE AND SO YOU MIGHT CARE ABOUT SOME OF THESE CONCERNS.
AND SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING EXCEPT A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING AS QUESTIONS AND HAVE THEM AND, AND HAVE YOU GUYS LOOK INTO THEM.
SO I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T MADE LIKE AN OFFICIAL PRESENTATION LIKE I USUALLY DO.
UM, I HAVE BEEN SUPER SWAMPED TOO.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, STARTING OUT WITH THE FACT THAT THIS, THE CITY OWNS THE PARK FACILITIES AT TECERA.
SO THE CITY OWNS THE SWIMMING POOL, THE SHOWERS, THE PARK BENCHES, THE PARKING SPACES.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAILS AND, BUT, BUT THEY DO OWN THESE OTHER, UH, PIECES OF PROPERTY.
THEY, THE CITY IN 2016 PASSED A RESOLUTION WHICH AUTHORIZED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH LED TO THE DEEDS THAT WERE ACCEPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2020.
SO THERE WERE DEEDS THAT WERE ACCEPTED BY RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2020.
AND SO THESE, THIS IS DEDICATED PUBLIC PARK LAND AND THAT'S HOW THE DEEDS WERE WRITTEN.
AND THAT'S HOW THE RESOLUTION ACCEPTED THEM.
SO EVER SINCE THIS HAS BECOME PUBLIC, IT SEEMS THAT THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE, THE, UM, THE, THE DILEMMA BETWEEN THE FACT THAT THESE FACILITIES WERE BUILT WITH PID FUNDS AND IT'S, WE, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN FOCUSING ON THE PID AND THE PID IS THE ISSUE, BUT NO ONE IS, IS ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT THE HOA, THERE IS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER HAS WITH THE HOA.
SO IT'S A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT.
HINES DEVELOPER AND TECERA HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE CITY ARE IN A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
NOW, RIGHT NOW THE, AND TYPICALLY WHEN AN HOA IS NEW, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A NEW DEVELOPMENT BEFORE IT'S TURNED OVER TO THE REGULAR, TO THE OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE DEVELOPER IS THE, THE DIRECTORS OF THE HOA.
AND THAT'S THE STATUS THAT IT'S STILL IN.
SO THE, THE HINES DEVELOPER IS STILL LIKE BASICALLY RUNNING THE HOA AND THEY'RE RUNNING THE DEVELOPER.
SO, BUT YOU STILL HAVE THREE PARTIES IN THIS MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
AND AN HOA IS FORMED AS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO FILE A CERTIFICATE OF FORMATION.
AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO BUY PROPERTY IN TECERA ARE, ARE MEMBERS AND THEY'RE MANDATORY MEMBERS.
AND THE REASON FOR THIS HOA TO BE IN EXISTENCE IS TO, TO DO THINGS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE MEMBERSHIP, WHICH IT TYPICALLY MEANS TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY FOR, FOR THE MEMBERSHIP.
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THE CITY AS A PARTY TO A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE THE CITY IS SAYING THAT THE HOA IS GOING TO MANAGE THE, THE COMMON AREAS, THEY'RE MANAGING COMMON AREAS OWNED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE HOA, BUT THEY'RE ALSO EXPECTED TO MANAGE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY.THE HOA, H- HOAS HAVE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES.
AND HOAS HAVE INSURANCE POLICIES THAT COVER THE PROPERTY OF THE HOA AND THAT ALSO COVER DIRECTOR'S LIABILITIES FOR ANYTHING THAT THE DIRECTOR MAY DO IN THE CONDUCT OF THEIR BUSINESS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY GET THEM INTO TROUBLE.
BUT I'VE ASKED FOR THE COPY OF THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE CO - WITH, WITH, WELL, NOW IT'S WITH INFRAMARK.
AND SO IT WAS PREVIOUSLY GOODWIN WAS THE MANAGER OF THIS HOA, NOW IT'S INFRAMARK.
AND INFRAMARK, BY THE WAY, DOESN'T DO A LOT OF, OF HOA MANAGEMENT.
AND THEY'VE BEEN ON BOARD SINCE AT LEAST FEBRUARY.
AND THERE'S SOME REALLY ELEMENTARY THINGS THAT YOU DO WHEN YOU TAKE OVER, UM, AS A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT THE STATE REQUIRES THAT YOU DO, AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE THEM.
AND THAT'S PUT MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATES OF RECORD WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH TREK.
SO MY, MY CONCERN IS A LITTLE BIT THAT THE CITY MAYBE WOULD WANT TO GET TO KNOW IF, IF INFRAMARK HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO BE MANAGING THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT IS GONNA BE BETWEEN THE, THE INFRAMARK AND THE, THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE HOA.
BUT THE BYLAWS OF THE HOA ACTUALLY REQUIRE, ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE HOA, THEREFORE THE HOAS REQUIRES THAT THEY DO THINGS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, NOT ONLY OF THE COMMONLY OWNED AREA BY THE HOA MEMBERS, BUT THE, WHAT THEY CALL IN HERE, THE COMMON MAINTENANCE AREAS, WHICH IS THE AREA OWNED BY THE CITY.
SO IF YOU, SO RIGHT NOW THE DIRECTORS ON THE HOA BOARD ARE HEINZ PEOPLE.
BUT IF H - WHEN HINES LEAVES, REGULAR MEMBERS OF THE HOA ARE GONNA BE TAKING OVER AS BOARD MEMBERS.
AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BE EXPECTED TO BE ADHERING TO THESE BYLAWS.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COVERED BY THE DIRECTOR'S LIABILITY INSURANCE.
AND I THINK IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY, REALLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THE DIRECTOR'S LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY THAT'S IN EFFECT NOW WILL COVER THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR ANYTHING THAT THEY DO THAT MAY, UH, BE RELATED, ANY, ANYTHING THAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, INCORRECTLY OR UNFAVORABLY THAT MAY BE RELATED TO CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
SO WHO'S GONNA WANNA BE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IF THEY DON'T HAVE COVERAGE FOR, FOR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF ACTS? THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT DOES THE, DOES THE INSURANCE CARRIER EVEN KNOW THAT THE BOARD IS REQ - IS REQUIRED BY THE BYLAWS TO BE MANAGING CITY OWNED PROPERTY? AND THE BYLAWS REQUIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I WON'T READ ALL OF THIS, BUT THEY REQUIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, TO KEEP IN GOOD ORDER CONDITION AND REPAIRS NOT ONLY THE COMMON AREAS, BUT THE COMMON MAINTENANCE AREAS, AND THAT'S THE CITY PROPERTY, AND ANY OTHER LANDS AND FACILITIES MAINTAINED AND OPERATED BY THE ASSOCIATION IS THE BOARD SHALL CONSIDER APPROPRIATE FROM TIME TO TIME.
SO IT'S, THEY'RE GONNA, THE NORMAL THING IS THE HOA BOARD OF DIRECTORS MANAGES HOA-OWNED PROPERTY.
BUT THIS TELLS THEM THAT THEY CAN DO WHATEVER IS, THEY THINK IS APPROPRIATE FROM TIME TO TIME, WHICH MEANS, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D WANNA LOOK INTO, LIKE WHO'S GONNA DECIDE WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE MANAGING.
UM, IT ALSO TELLS THEM THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO NOT ONLY MANAGE AND KEEP IN GOOD ORDER, CONDITION AND REPAIR THE COMMON AREA, THE COMMON PROPERTY AREA, BUT ANY OTHER LANDS AND FACILITIES MAINTAINED AND OPERATED BY THE ASSOCIATION AND ALL ITEMS OF PERSONAL PROPERTY USED IN THE ENJOYMENT OF COMMON AREAS.
THESE THINGS ARE NOT TYPICAL IN BYLAWS OF HOAS.
SO I, TO PUT THIS IN A NUTSHELL TO WRAP IT UP, I THINK THAT IF, IF, IF I WAS ON COUNCIL, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE, TO THE CITY IS TO GET A HOA BOARD CERTIFIED ATTORNEY, BECAUSE THIS, THERE ARE HOA BOARD CERTIFIED ATTORNEYS.
UH, GET ONE OF THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE INSURANCE POLICY, BECAUSE EVEN
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THOUGH WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY, IT WOULD, IF WE GET A, A BOARD CERTIFIED ONE, WELL, THEY WON'T HAVE TO DO ALL THE RESEARCH.SO IT WILL COST US PROBABLY LESS IN THE LONG RUN AND THEY, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, MORE SECURE IN WHATEVER DECISION THEY MAKE.
BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT, UH, THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE INSURANCE POLICY AND SEE HOW THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AS WELL AS THE PIT ISSUE.
SO, AND YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA WRITE UP SOMETHING AND BE ABLE TO SEND A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS TO US.
I, I'LL TRY TO SEND YOU BULLET POINTS.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, THEN JUST EMAIL ME.
I'VE GOT YOUR INFORMATION RIGHT HERE, LINDA.
AND WE WILL S - UH, SEE ABOUT POTENTIALLY ONCE WE GET THOSE, MAYBE MAKING AN AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT NOVEMBER MEETING.
HONEST- HONESTLY, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY BEYOND - YEAH.
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY MORE OF A COUNCIL LEGAL - RIGHT.
THE ONLY, THE, THE MAIN PART I REMEMBER WAS ABOUT THE TAKING OVER THE - YEAH.
POOL AND MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THE, UH - YEAH.
BUT, UM, IT'S DEFINITELY MORE COUNCIL'S PURVIEW, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, IF WE GET THE BULLET POINTS, WE CAN FORWARD IT ON.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, SO WE GAVE THEM NOTICE OF NON-RENEWAL.
SO WE GAVE OURSELVES TIME, I THINK ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY NEGOTIATE IF THEY'RE GONNA MAKE ANY CHANGES.
BUT THERE WERE SOME REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE NON-UPKEEP OF THE POOL, UH, IN PARTICULAR AND LACK OF SECURITY AROUND THE POOL, THE POOL DECK, BUT THEN OTHER AREAS ARE GONNA NEED WORK TOO, THE PAVILION, THE ROAD IN FRONT OF IT, ET CETERA.
SO IT'S, THE CITY'S GONNA TAKE ON ALL OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY IF WE DON'T RENEW THE AGREEMENT.
SO - THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY THINGS HERE, AS WE ALL KNOW, WE'RE LACKING FUNDS FOR EVERYTHING.
SO TAKING ON A POOL AND MAINTENANCE.
AND, AND THE BUDGET DAVID PUT TOGETHER - UH-HUH.
WAS AROUND THE POOL ITSELF AND SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE REPAIRS THERE, BUT IT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE POOL DECK, THE PAVILION, ANY OF THE OTHER STUFF IS NOT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED ON TOP OF IF THAT ENDS UP HAPPENING DURING THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
BUT WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT, UH, I TOLD LINDA, I'D MENTIONED IT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM TOMORROW NIGHT AND I'LL MENTION THIS.
I'LL ASK BRAD ABOUT THIS AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT, SO.
WE HAVE ANOTHER CITIZEN PARTICIPATION COMMENT FROM LINDA.
UM, I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO READ YOUR LAST NAME AND I'M LIKE, OKAY.
UM, UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MEETING TO SUPPORT E-BIKES HAVING A PARK IN OUR CITY.
IS THAT RIGHT, MARK? UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY TO BE- BECOME EDUCATED ON THEM.
WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A STAND ON IT.
BUT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN AFFORD IT, IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
UH, AND MORE, MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHERE IT WOULD GO AND - RIGHT.
SO WE'RE, WE, WE HAVE A, UM, A, UH, GENTLEMAN HERE, JEFF AND YOUR PARTNER.
SO THEY'VE GOT A, THEY'VE GOT A PRESENTATION COMING UP.
I, I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT THEM AND I BELIEVE THAT E-BIKES ARE THE NEW FORM OF TRANSPORTATION
EVERY DAY THERE'S AN OLD MAN DRIVING BY WITH HIS PUPPY IN THE FRONT AND A BASKET ON HIS E-BIKE.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ILLEGAL STREET BIKES.
I'M THE CITIZEN THAT FILED THE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE OFFICER FOR PURSUING THE ILLEGAL BIKES.
IT ALSO CONCERNS ME THAT WE HAVE A DOUBLE STANDARD IN OUR CITY, THAT WE'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE ON GOLF CARTS TO TRAVEL TO AND FROM OUR PARKS, TO AND FROM OUR GROCERY STORES, AND THAT MAKES THEM ILLEGAL IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO AND FROM A GOLF COURSE, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO I'M JUST ASKING, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE OF THAT TOO.
AND I JUST THINK THE KIDS, E- EVEN IF THEY'RE ILLEGALLY ON OUR STREETS, THAT THEY NEED A BREAK.
AND, UM, I SENT THAT TO THE MAYOR AS TO WHY I FILED THE COMPLAINT.
IT'S AGAINST PROTOCOL AND PROCEDURE IN THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, TO NOT PURSUE ANYONE FOR A MISDEMEANOR TRAFFIC VIOLATION OR, UH, JUST
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A MISDEMEANOR CRIMINAL VIOLATION.SO JUST A LITTLE INFORMATION THERE.
UM, I, I JUST THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANT A GOLF CART.
UH, I JUST THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE AND WHAT THE FUTURE IS AND THAT THE FUTURE IS E-BIKES.
AND IF, UH, WE COULD MAYBE GET GRANTS FROM THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT.
I DID GET ONE FOR THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON TO BUY PARK PROPERTY THAT WAS UP FOR SALE.
SO IF Y'ALL NEED ANY HELP WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER.
LET'S GIVE THESE KIDS A BREAK.
THE SAME KAREN'S AND JOE'S THAT ARE REPORTING THEM, EVEN THE LEGAL ONES ON OUR STREETS ARE THE SAME ONES THAT HAVE ILLEGALLY BROKEN TEXAS PUBLIC SAFETY RULES AND LAWS THAT SAY THEY CAN'T BE ON THE STREET.
SO I KNOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS JUST INUNDATED WITH CALLS FROM EVERYBODY.
OH, THERE'S E-BIKES KIDS HERE AND E-BIKES KIDS THERE AND THEY'RE DOING THIS AND THEY'RE DOING THAT.
BUT WHICH BRINGS UP THE SAFETY ASPECT.
AND, UM, KAREN, I DID SEND YOU AND THE CITY COUNCIL SOME, UH, INFORMATION ON SAFETY.
IT'S BECOME A NUMBER ONE PEDIATRIC INJURY IN OUR NATION.
AND THE REASON IS THE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, UH, THE BIKE IS HEAVIER.
UH, IT'S HARDER FOR A CHILD TO MANEUVER IT.
UM, ALSO A CHILD'S BRAIN AND A, YOU KNOW, HAZARDOUS, UH, CONDITION, LIKE WHAT DO I DO? HOW DO I DO THAT? SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO HELP, IF WE'RE GONNA DO A PARK, EDUCATE THE CHILDREN TOO.
UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
I, I THINK IT'S A NECESSITY THAT WE DO THAT.
I'M ALL ABOUT THE KARENS, YOU KNOW, REPORTING THEM.
WE'RE A GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY AND NOW WE ARE AN E-BIKE COMMUNITY.
AND I'LL BE OUT THERE WITH THE KIDS IF THEY LET ME.
I DO HAVE A, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UH, ARE YOU HANGING FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING OR ARE YOU, WAS THAT - I WAS GONNA TRY, YEAH.
IF, IF YOU CAN'T STAY, MEET THESE TWO GENTLEMEN RIGHT HERE, UH, JEFF MILLER AND, UH - I HAVE ONE MORE.
IT REALLY CONCERNS ME THAT OUR CITY APPOINTED A POLICE OFFICER THAT DID THE PURSUIT OF THE CHILDREN THAT WAS IN VIOLATION OF TEXAS PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PROCEDURE.
UH, THE REASON IT CONCERNS ME IS, UH, THIS OFFICER HAS TWO LAWSUITS AGAINST HIM BY PEOPLE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND HE HAD A FORMAL CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT LINE.
SO I'M, I'M JUST ASKING Y'ALL TO SEE THAT HE, IT'S INFORMATION AGAIN.
UM, HE IS NOW OVERSEEING STUDENTS AT OUR SCHOOLS.
AND I WOULD, I REALLY THINK THERE'S SOMETHING OFF THERE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND I DO KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE EVEN HERE TONIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, W - THEIR SUPPORT FOR E-BIKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED RECENTLY IN OUR CITY HAVE SUFFERED RETALIATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT PLEASE, UM, PLEASE LOOK AT GIVING THE KIDS A PARK.
AND THE REASON I WOULD SUGGEST DEFINITELY TALKING TO JEFF AND DAVID, UM, DAVID'S ON THE EDC, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, MAINLY A, A, A GOOD FUNDING MECHANISM OR A POTENTIAL FUNDING MECHANISM FOR SOMETHING LIKE A BIKE PARK.
AND JEFF OWNS THE LOCAL, UH, BIKE SHOP, LYFT.
AND, UM, HE'S GOT SOME IDEAS AND PLAN.
WELL, YEAH, HE'S GOT IDEAS FOR PROJECTS AND, AND PLANS.
LISA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND THAT KIND OF, UH, PASSION INVOLVEMENT WITH A PARTICULAR PROJECT LIKE AN E-BIKE PARK IS GONNA BE NEEDED.
SO DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH THESE GUYS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU - AND US, QUITE FRANKLY.
WE'RE GONNA, THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA BE A TOPIC YOU'RE GONNA SEE MORE OF AND WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THAT.
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IS ALL GOOD AMMUNITION FOR IT.I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, WE HAD A, UH, CITIZEN, UH, PARTICIPATION FORM FROM CHRISSY BLYSTONE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO COME AND TALK REGARDING THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE UPDATE ON THE UPPER FIELD OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
UM, I SENT TO THE SECRETARY KIND OF A PACKET FOR OUR LEAGUE AND THE HISTORICAL.
UM, SO I REALLY JUST WANTED TO COME AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY KIND OF WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL TO GET SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
I GUESS THERE WAS A NEW, UM, AMENDMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED.
AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, I GUESS, UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF WHY THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROBLEM IT'S INTENDED TO SOLVE.
SO I'M WAITING ON SOME STUFF FROM THE CITY.
I'M GONNA BE MEETING WITH, UM, RON JOY IN A COUPLE WEEKS AS WELL.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE MAINLY THAT Y'ALL HAVE THE PACKET OF WHAT OUR HISTORY IS WITH THE UPPER FIELD.
UM, AND THEN IT ALSO HAS THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M WORKING TO GET THE ANSWERS TO.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING IT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH - 'CAUSE I HAD JUST GOTTEN IT LIKE LAST MONDAY, SO.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I TALKED TO MICHAEL EARLIER AND, UM, AND I WAS ASKING BECAUSE HE'S, HE'S DOING A LOT OF INTERIM PARK STUFF RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU DEFINITELY NEED A COPY OF THAT TO SEE THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP.
I KNOW YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, COPIES OF CITY UTILITY STATEMENTS SO YOU CAN ANSWER SOME OF COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, SO DEFINITELY WE NEED TO CONNECT MICHAEL INTO THE, YOU KNOW - OKAY.
SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE GENESIS OF THE AMENDMENT.
I THINK DAVID MONTGOMERY SCOTT HAD, HE BROUGHT UP IN A MEETING YOU GUYS WERE IN LAST YEAR, RIGHT? DO WE START, IF THERE'S EXCLUSIVE USAGE, DO WE START CHARGING FOR CERTAIN THINGS? SO I THINK THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF IT.
BUT I CHECKED WITH HIM AND HE HAD NOT DONE THE AMENDMENT.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO MAY HAVE PUT THE AMENDMENT TOGETHER.
HONESTLY, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD SOME TRANSITION IN OUR LEAGUE AS WELL.
SO I ONLY STEPPED INTO THIS POSITION, I THINK THREE MONTHS AGO.
BUT, UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION I WAS CHASING LIKE AN EXPIRED CONTRACT FOR THAT SPORTS PARK UP UNTIL LAST MONDAY.
SO, AND I WAS TOLD THAT, YES, THAT HE HAD SOMETHING.
I THOUGH HE HAD SUBMITTED A NEW CONTRACT, UM, UP TO THE CITY LAWYER MONTHS AGO.M.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGH WE WERE CHASING AND THEN FOUND OUT DIFFERENTLY.
SO I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO DRAFTED THE AMENDMENT.
'CAUSE AS WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY - YEAH.
SOME OF, IT'S KIND OF HIGH LEVEL.
IT'S NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH TO BEGIN WITH, RIGHT? AND THEN OBVIOUSLY - THE NAMING'S NOT RIGHT.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW MY EMAIL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS FOLLOW UP YET.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MEETING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IN A COUPLE WEEKS WAS THE MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
RON AGAIN AND JUST ASKED HIM TO TRY TO GET THAT STUFF.
SO WE SET IT FOR TWO WEEKS OUT.
SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AND ALSO WITH NICOLE.
I WAS EMAILING HER ON - PERFECT.
YEAH, BECAUSE I HAD, I THINK SHE KIND OF BECAME MY POINT OF CONTACT.
I THOUGHT I WAS CHASING LIKE A NEW CONTRACT RENEWAL.
AND SO SHE'S LIKE, "OH, I GOT SOMETHING FROM DAVID AND I'VE SENT IT UP TO THE..." AND THEN IT JUST, YOU KNOW, WAS UP AT THE CITY ATTORNEY, I GUESS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL HAVE THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK SOME OF Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW OUR HISTORY WITH THE, THE, THE FIELD AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
SO THAT, UH, WAS ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS WE HAVE.
[III.1. Routine reports from City Council Liaison.]
UM, UH, CITY COUNCIL LIAISON.KIERAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, REPORTS FROM CITY COUNCIL? YEAH, NOT SO MUCH REPORTS, BUT JUST MAYBE, UM, ENCOURAGEMENT AND APPRECIATE MICHAEL STEPPING UP
AND SO PART OF IT, BRIGHT BUDGET, RIGHT? YOU, YOU GUYS SAW ALL THE DEBATE AND DISCUSSION AROUND THE BUDGET, BUT WE DID PRESERVE THE BUDGET THAT DAVID HAD SUBMITTED FOR THE PARKS BUDGET.
WE DID PRESERVE, UM, DAWN CIRCLE PARK, BOWDEN POINT PROJECTS IN, UM, THE CIP TO BE FUNDED OUT OF THE TREE MITIGATION FUND.
UM, THAT WAS INITIALLY REGULAR OPERATING BUDGET.
THERE WAS TALK ABOUT FUNDING IT FROM TREE MITIGATION.
IT WAS BACK IN REGULAR BUDGET.
NICOLE'S, NICOLE'S GONNA LOOK IT UP.
SHE'S OUT OF TOWN, BUT SHE'S GONNA LOOK UP AND CONFIRM IF IT'S COMING OUT OF THE PARKS FUND VERSUS GENERAL FUND.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION SINCE YOU JUST MENTIONED IT AND I DON'T WANNA FORGET IT.
UM, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PARKS FUND AS OPPOSED TO THE GENERAL FUND? SO THEORETICALLY IT'S MONEY PUT ASIDE, DESIGNATED TO BE USED FOR PARK PURPOSES, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU AND I WERE EMAILING ON.
IS UNDERSTANDING WHEN THOSE TRANSFERS ARE MADE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSFERS THAT ARE MADE IN AND OUT OF THE CITY FUNDS.
AND SO I SUGGESTED TO NICOLE AND SHE RESPONDED VERY POSITIVELY THAT MAYBE WE GET TOGETHER WITH HER, MICHAEL, AND MAYBE THE SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, MASTER PLAN SUBCOMMITTEE OR WHOEVER YOU GUYS THINK IS APPROPRIATE FROM PRAC.
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MM-HMM.AND, AND GET TOGETHER WITH HER AND RON, MICHAEL, MYSELF AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO SHE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE US THROUGH - YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.
HOW THE, THE MOVEMENT OF FUNDS IS DONE, HOW SHE TRACKS IT, WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MOVE IT OR LEVERAGE PARK FUNDS VERSUS SOMETHING COMING FROM GENERAL FUNDS.
SO SHE CAN HELP PROVIDE SOME CLARITY ON THAT.
'CAUSE I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST, I WENT THROUGH THE, THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT REALLY WH- WHAT, WHERE HAS THIS MONEY BEEN SPENT THE LAST TWO TO THREE FISCAL YEARS? YOU KNOW, THIS SAYS PARKLAND FUNDS.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WHERE IS IT? IT HAD A BALANCE OF ZERO TWO, THREE YEARS AGO.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S GOT MONEY IN IT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, I, I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS.
I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT MEETING WITH THE - YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
SO THAT'S A FOLLOW-UP DEFINITELY.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST ADD IS WITH THE MONEY THERE, UM, LET'S KEEP MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, DAWN CIRCLE PARK, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO ON THE REZONING AND THE FORMALIZING AN EASEMENT ON THAT.
SO I WAS JUST TALKING TO MICHAEL ABOUT THAT BEFORE THE MEETING.
UM, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH RON AND JUST NOW THAT WE HAVE AN ACTING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PERSON IN, THEY, OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE GOT A BACKLOG OF THINGS THEY'VE GOT TO WORK ON, SO THIS WON'T BE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE LINE OF SIGHT ON BEGINNING TO WORK ON THAT.
I TALKED TO BRAD, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, AND WE CAN WORK ON THE EASEMENT AND THE REZONING CONCURRENTLY.
SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, THEN THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY THEN TO GO AND LOOK AT SOLICITING BIDS FOR THE ACTUAL PROJECT AND MAYBE SOLIDIFYING WHAT THAT PHASE ONE WOULD BE.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IT'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
UM, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT, JUST TO FINALIZE WHAT DOES PHASE ONE LOOK LIKE AND THEN GO OUT AND GET BIDS.
SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE LINE OF SIGH.
AND SAME THING ON THE BOWDEN, UM, BOWDEN POINT AS WELL ON THE WALKWAY.
THAT'S IN THEIR CIP FUNDING, SO IT'S KIND OF A MATTER OF - YEAH, THEY'RE KIND OF SIDE BY SIDE.
UM, I THINK ERIC WAS GONNA GO BACK AND GET REAL BIDS THIS TIME.
HE GOT HIGHER LEVEL BIDS THE PREVIOUS TIME.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING I'LL FOLLOW UP ON AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING WORKED.
KAREN, WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE
I APPRECIATE THE LINE OF SIGHT COMMENT BECAUSE TO GET ANYTHING DONE, WE HAVE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND, UH, AND, AND HAVING SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR CERTAIN THINGS SO WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.
AS WE ALL KNOW, AND DAVID MENTIONED THIS AS WELL IN HIS TENURE WAS, IS THAT THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS.
SO MOVING FORWARD IN AN EXPEDIENT MANNER IS A GOOD THING.
SO, UM, SO THAT - I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, KAREN, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE TREE MITIGATION FUND.
I THINK IN THE PRI - ONE OF THE PRAC MEETINGS OR PRIOR PRAC MEETINGS, I THINK THAT THERE WAS STILL LANGUAGE THAT NEEDED TO BE KIND OF CLEARED OUT IN TERMS OF HOW THAT FUND IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME WAS SET ASIDE, AS YOU MENTIONED, FOR THE PICKLEBALL RESURFACING.
BUT AGAIN, TO WHAT EXTENT IS SOME OF THE FUNDS BEING USED FOR LIKE ANY KIND OF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OR TREE? 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY REMOVED THE POCKET LANGUAGE, BUT DID THAT, DID ANY FRUITS OF THAT COME ABOUT WITH CITY COUNCIL AND HAVING A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LANGUAGE AND HOW YOU'RE DEFINING TREE MITIGATION? I THINK BRAD WAS GONNA LOOK AND, UM, MAKE POSSIBLE SUGGESTIONS ON ANY ADDITIONAL SPECIFICITY AROUND THE LANGUAGE WE WANTED TO ADD.
UM, ACCORDING TO HIM AND ACCORDING TO HIS PARTNER, ART, WHO HAS SUPPORTED SOME OF OUR MEETINGS, UM, WE CAN USE THAT FOR ANY KIND OF PARKS IMPROVEMENTS.
IT COULD BE FOR NEW PARK DEVELOPMENT OR IMPROVEMENT IN EXISTENT PARKS, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAD OPINED THAT IF WE WANTED TO USE IT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE PICKLEBALL RESURFACING, THAT'S, THAT'S CITY PARK TECHNICALLY.
SO IT COULD BE USED FOR THAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT.
SO I THINK THERE'S A FAIRLY BROAD APPLICATION RIGHT NOW OF THE TREE MITIGATION FUNDS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY RESEARCHED FOR US.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BIG RUSH TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE NECESSARILY, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT IT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING FOR PRAC TO LOOK AT IF YOU THINK WE WANT TO ADD SOME SPECIFICITY OF LANGUAGE AROUND GREEN RELATED INITIATIVES.
BUT I THINK IT'S FAIRLY OPEN RIGHT NOW, SO.
THAT MAY NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COME UP IN THE LAST MEETING WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE GOLF COURSE WERE CONSIDERED PART OF A PARK.
THAT'S, THAT, THAT WAS A QUESTION.
OPEN QUESTIONS ACTUALLY ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
THAT'S A, AND THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
IF IT'S NOT ZONED IN ONE OF THE PARK DESIGNATIONS TECHNICALLY, BUT IT'S USED AS A CITY PARK.
AND IT'S, IT'S - THEY OPINE THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY WITH QUALIFYING.
IN THE END IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THE TREE MITIGATION FUND ANYWAY.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TO DO TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THOSE.
SO MICHAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY...
ARE YOU DONE, KAREN? ANYTHING ELSE?
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OKAY.[III.2. Routine reports from City Staff.]
REPORTS FOR CITY STAFF.THE REPORT FOR PARKS DEPARTMENT COMES FROM JUST THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, TO KIND OF FINISH UP PROJECTS THAT DAVID HAD STARTED.
SO WE'VE GONE ALONG AND, AND, UM, ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON NOW IS THE VETERANS PARK IN NOVEMBER.
THE SLAB WILL BE DELIVERED FOR THE NEW SPACE FORCE.
SO WE'RE PUTTING IN THE LIGHTS AND PUTTING IN THE SLAB.
WE'RE GONNA PUT A NEW FLAGPOLE THERE TO PUT THE FLAG ON FOR OUR SPACE FORCE.
SO WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THE FORCES REPRESENTED NOW.
WE HAD, AND WHETHER YOU KNOW OR DON'T KNOW, WE HAD 18 TREES TAKEN DOWN ON HIGHLAND THAT WERE DISEASED, DAMAGED, DYING.
YEAH, THEY ALL HAD, UH, IT WAS REPORTED OAK WILT IS WHAT GOT THEM.
AND THEY WERE GROWING IN TIGHT CLUMPS TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT KILLED THEM.
SO WE TOOK THOSE DOWN AND WE PLAN ON REPLACING THOSE TREES.
WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT 18 BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA PUT THEM IN TIGHT CLUMPS AGAIN, BUT WE'RE GONNA SPREAD THEM OUT.
AND ALSO TRY AND ADD SOME MORE TREES DOWN HIGHLAND BOULEVARD.
THERE ARE SPACES THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S NOTHING.
IT'S JUST, JUST OPEN TURF AND WE CAN PUT SOME TREES IN THERE.
WE'VE REPLACED THE CANOPY AT THE TENNIS COURT AT, UM, THE UPPER FIELD SPORTS COMPLEX.
THE CANOPY FOR THE SHADE CANOPY OUTSIDE THE FRONT OF IT HAD JUST BOUGHT IT.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE BATHROOMS AND NOW IT'S OFF SEASON IN THE POOL, PAINTING THE FLOORS IN THE BATHROOMS. THEY SUFFERED WEAR AND TEAR THROUGH THE SEASON AND SOME OF IT WAS CHIPPING UP.
SO WE'RE PUTTING NEW PAINT, REPAINTING THE FIRE LANE BECAUSE THE FIRE LANE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, IT'S JUST FADED AND GONE.
LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST NORMAL MAINTENANCE STUFF, BUT, AND WE'RE ALSO, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE I CAN SHOW YOU.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, LET'S SEE, WHERE AM I AT? THE ROAD NOW, THE EXISTING ROADWAY IS JUST, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE, IT'S JUST GRAVEL AND ROCK.
AND THAT'S THE NEW ROADWAY THAT WAS PUT IN.
WE'RE LINING THE SIDES OF THE ROADWAY WITH MULCH ON ALL SIDES, ABOUT FIVE TO SIX FEET OUT.
THIS IS FROM 1431 LOOKING UP INTO THE PARK.
WE'RE GOING TO MULCH AND PUT WILDFLOWER SEEDS AND TREES ALONG THIS ROADWAY SO THAT, UM, WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
NOW THIS IS AI GENERATED PICTURES.
SO AI IS VERY GENEROUS WITH THE COLORS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND PUT SOME TREES DOWN THERE AND MAKE THAT LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
AND THAT'S THE, THE ONE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN A COUPLE OF OAK TREES THERE.
SO THAT'S JUST PLANS AND THINGS THAT WE ARE, WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MICHAEL.
THIS HAS BEEN A PET PEEVE EVER SINCE I'VE COME ON, UH, PRAC ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
RIGHT OUT IN VETERANS PARK, WE HAVE AN EAGLE WITH WINGS AND THE SOUTHWEST SIDE.
IT JUST GETS PUSHED AND PUSHED AND PUSHED.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASE OF THAT STRUCTURE, THERE'S A TEAR IN THE, IN THE WELD, PROBABLY A GOOD THIRD OR MORE OF THE WAY AROUND.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FALLS UNDER PARKS OR UNDER PUBLIC WORKS OR, BUT IT NEEDS TO GET DISMANTLED, RE-WELDED AND, YOU KNOW, PUT BACK TOGETHER.
AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHOSE, WHOSE UMBRELLA IT FALLS UNDER, BUT, UM, IT LOOKS TERRIBLE FOR ONE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT WELD IS SHOT.
IT HAS A LOT OF WIND LOAD ON IT WHEN IT'S - IT DOES.
BECAUSE THE WINGS COMING OUT LIKE THAT.
MADAM, MADAM CHAIR
UH, DAVID, DAVID WOULD LIKE A - YEAH.
OH, DIDN'T SEE, OH, DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE.
I'M GONNA WORK BACKWARDS AS IT IS.
I HAVE A WELDER WHO WILL GLADLY JUST FIX THAT.
UH, ON THE MULCH, ON THE WAY IN, SOMETHING LAGO'S DONE IN THE PAST IS USED THE MULCH WE GET FROM THE GREEN CENTER RECYCLING.
THAT'S MAJORITY FROM THE JUNIPER TREES, WHICH IS NITROGEN DEPLETING AND WILL SMOTHER THE WILDFLOWER
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SEEDS.BUT IF YOU MIX IT IN WITH OTHER DIRT AND SUCH, YOU CAN MITIGATE THAT.
SO IF WE USE THE, IF WE USE OUR OWN MULCH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE MIXING IT BEFOREHAND.
I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT, BUT THIS IS A CI - A MISTAKE THE CITY HAS MADE BEFORE, WHICH THEN LED TO REALLY BAD EROSION.
AND THEN THIRDLY, THE OAK WILT ISSUE, IT'S NOT SUPER COMMON KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE IT'S RELATIVELY NEW.
IT'S BASICALLY A VACCINE FOR TREES TO PRO- PROTECT THEM AGAINST OAK WILT.
UH, IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S NOT NEARLY AS EXPENSIVE AS CUTTING DOWN A TREE.
IT'LL DEFINITELY LESS THAN REPLACING A TREE.
UH, AND THAT IS A DIRECT NEXUS THAT CAN BE USED WITH TREE MITIGATION FUNDS, UH, BECAUSE ANYTHING IN THAT FUND HAS TO BE DIRECTLY CORRELATED AND PROPORTIONAL TO TREES AND GREENERY BEING REMOVED.
SO IT, BEATING THE DEAD HORSE, IT CAN'T BE A PICKLEBALL COURT RESURFACING, BUT IT CAN BE PROTECTING TREES THAT ARE THERE, PROTECTING GREENERY, OR EVEN REMOVING DEAD AND POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS OTHER DEBRIS OR GROWTH THAT COULD HINDER AND KILL MORE TREES.
THE TREE MITIGATION FUND, WE HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF AVENUES THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW A DIRECT NEXUS WHERE WE'VE COLLECTED A MITIGATION FEE FOR DESTROYING THE GREENERY.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF WAYS WE CAN REPLACE IT THAT ISN'T ASPHALT.
AND THEN THAT'LL FREE UP FUNDS IN THE PARK FUND TO GO REPAVE THINGS.
SO MICHAEL, THAT WAS IT FOR YOU.
[IV.1. Discussion regarding Bike Safety.]
EARLIER, THERE'S NO ACTION ITEMS THIS EVENING, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME REALLY INTERESTING, UH, INFORMATION THAT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.AND JEFF MILLER FROM LYFT BIKE SHOP IS THE FIRST ON THE, UH, AGENDA HERE REGARDING BIKE SAFETY.
UM, I, I BELIEVE YOU, DO YOU HAVE THE THING THAT I SAID? I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE BY THE COMPUTER, SO - YOU SHOULD.
SO I, UH, I SENT A FEW THINGS OVER.
THIS WILL, WE'LL GO OVER THE BIKE SAFETY FIRST.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING WHAT YOU SAID, AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
UM - I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PRESENTATION THAT'S NEXT.
YEAH, WE, WE DON'T WANT THAT ONE.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT STAN GAVE ME PUT ON HERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAVE.
YOU GAVE ME HIS EMAIL, RIGHT, MARK? WHAT'S THAT? YOU GAVE ME HIS EMAIL? DID YOU GIVE ME HIS EMAIL? I DID NOT.
I SENT IT TO SOMEBODY, RIGHT? YOU SENT IT TO, YOU SENT IT TO J - UM, STAN PRESTON.
I HAD HEARD STAN SAY THE SAME THING TODAY THAT HE WAS WAITING ON.
WELL, I CAN SEND IT RIGHT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
SO HERE, I'LL, I'LL DO IT AND WE CAN ROCK AND ROLL.
WE WERE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE, UH, NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM.
WHO, WHO ARE YOU SENDING IT TO? DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND IT TO HIM? HIS, OR WHOEVER'S EMAIL THAT IS? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN A - CAN YOU ACCESS YOUR EMAIL FROM THAT COMPUTER? WE MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM.
JUST SHOW IT TO THEM ON YOUR PHONE.
I CAN'T, UNLESS I CAN PLUG MY PHONE IN AND THEY ALLOW ME TO DO IT.
DO YOU HAVE AN HDMI DEVICE? WELL, THE, THE, THE MON - WELL, YOU KNOW, THE MONITOR WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T DO ANY GOOD.
AND I CAN'T SHARE IT EITHER, CAN I? I CAN'T CONNECT TO THIS.
YEAH, I'VE, I'VE SENT OVER, THEY GAVE ME, I SENT IT TO RON.
WHO WAS THE PERSON YOU GAVE ME? OH, STAN.
'CAUSE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I WAS TOLD TO DO IS EMAIL IT TO STAN, STAN WILL PUT IT ON A THUMB DRIVE AND THEN OVER THERE, I GUESS.
SO, HOW ABOUT THIS? CAN I, UM, DO YOU, CAN YOU GET IN YOUR EMAIL, KAREN? CAN I SEND IT TO YOU? I GUESS SO, YEAH.
AND THEN - I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S OKAY WITH ME LINKING IT TO IT.
OH, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S YOUR PHONE.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME.
SO I'D LOVE TO SHOW YOU ALL OF THIS.
CAN YOU MAYBE JUST - YEAH, I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU A SYNOPSIS AND THEN, YEAH, I, I, I DID DO SOME REALLY COOL VISUAL, UM, FOR THIS, BUT, AND, UM, A SLIDE DECK.
BUT, UH, BASICALLY, WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED BEFORE WITH THE CHAMBER IS DOING, IS DOING, UM, A, UM, A PROGRAM
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SO THE KIDS COULD GO THROUGH IT, THE TRAINING PROGRAM, TEACHING THEM BIKE SAFETY, BIKE ETIQUETTE, UM, RULES OF THE ROAD, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHAT'S OKAY AND WHAT'S NOT OKAY.AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY HAD TO, UM, THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT IS MAKING SURE THAT THIS MESSAGE COMES ACROSS CORRECTLY TO THE KIDS.
AND, UM, I'VE RACED PROFESSIONALLY FOR EIGHT YEARS.
I THINK SOME OF YOU KNOW THIS.
I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
AND HAVING THE RIGHT PERSON COMMUNICATE WITH THE KIDS, UM, IS GONNA MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.
UH, I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, IF THEY HEAR IT FROM SOMEONE WHO'S COMING DOWN ON THEM, IT'S GONNA HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT.
UM, THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM WE NEED TO FIX IN THIS COMMUNITY, PERIOD.
UM, SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN DO THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN.
UM, BUT THIS WOULD BASICALLY, WE WOULD HAVE...
LET ME PULL UP THE SLIDES ON MY PHONE AND I CAN KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH IT REALLY QUICK.
WELL, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, UM, JUST, THIS WOULD BE FOR E-BIKE AND EMOTO, RIGHT? I KNOW THERE'S A BIG TIFF ON THAT AND HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK AND HOW TO, UM, CONTROL IT AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
BUT THE FIRST THING IS THAT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO TEACH THE KIDS TO HAVE THE RESPECT FOR OTHERS, RIGHT? AND THEY HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION.
THEY HAVE TO HOLD ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE PARENTS HAVE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE CULTURE AROUND THAT, RIGHT? HOW DO WE GET THROUGH TO THE KIDS IS LIKE, "HEY, IT'S COOL TO WEAR A HELMET," RIGHT? AND IF THEY'RE NOT WEARING A HELMET, THEY'RE LIKE, "OKAY, GUYS, WE'RE NOT LEAVING UNTIL YOU PUT A HELMET ON." RIGHT? AND CREATING THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT FOR THE KIDS, UM, TO WHERE IT'S COOL TO WEAR SAFETY GEAR AND GO OUT AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR STUFF TOGETHER, RIGHT? UM, THE WHOLE E-BIKE THING AS FAR AS CLASSIFICATION, I THINK WE'VE BEATEN THAT, YOU KNOW, TO DEATH.
SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THAT IS.
UM, BUT ALL THE RULES APPLY, RIGHT? WHETHER WE ALLOW THEM, WE DON'T ALLOW THEM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I DO THINK THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME RESTRICTIONS.
UM, THERE, THERE ARE ISSUES BECAUSE SOME OF THESE BIKES GO 60, 70, 80 MILES AN HOUR.
AND ALTHOUGH I'M A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR EMOTO, THERE IS NO ROOM ANYWHERE IN THIS CITY FOR A CHILD AT 14 YEARS OLD TO BE ON A DIRT BIKE GOING 80 MILES AN HOUR ON A PUBLIC HIGHWAY.
UM, IT'S JUST A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
NOW, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO POSSIBLY PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR THEM, RIGHT? OR WE CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING ELSE AS AN OPTION, RIGHT? WHICH IS WHAT I'M GONNA GET TO HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, WHICH I THINK IS A SMARTER THING TO DO.
UM, I LOVE ALL OF IT, BUT YOU, YOU GOTTA CRAWL BEFORE YOU WALK.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF THESE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE KIDS WHO ARE ON DIRT BIKES THAT ARE VERY POWERFUL.
IT, IT, IT'S JUST A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
STARTING OUT ON PEDALS, THEY LEARN THEIR BASICS.
THEY LEARN, UM, THINGS AT A SLOWER PACE, RIGHT? G - THINGS COMING AT YOU AT 15 MILES AN HOUR IS DIFFERENT THAN THINGS COMING AT YOU AT 30 MILES AN HOUR.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BEING AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
UH, BUT YEAH, GOING OVER ROAD ROADS AND, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, ROAD RULES AND ETIQUETTE AND, UM, ANOTHER THING IS WHERE, WHERE CAN YOU RIDE, RIGHT? I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE CLEAR DEFINITION ON WHERE YOU CAN RIDE AND WHERE YOU CAN'T, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF AMBIGUITY WITH THAT.
UH, WHAT'S ALLOWED, WHAT ISN'T.
UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR IN A STATEMENT, AND WHEN WE MAKE IT, WE NEED TO STAND BY IT, RIGHT? AND, AND I'M, I'M ALL ABOUT LETTING KIDS, UM, BE OUT DOING, AND DOING THINGS, UH, LIKE RIDING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE A, A SAFE PLACE FOR THEM TO RIDE, I MEAN, WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
UH, I MEAN, FOR US, UH, WHEN I WAS A KID AT 12 YEARS OLD, YEAH, WE RODE OUR BIKES ON THE ROAD, BUT THEY WERE PEDAL BIKES AND WE WERE GOING, YOU KNOW, FIVE MILES AN HOUR.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS GOING 30, 40 MILES AN HOUR, RIGHT? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SAFE UNLESS THEY HAVE A CONTROLLED AREA WHERE THEY CAN RIDE THEM, WHICH I AM ALL FOR, RIGHT? UM, NOW WHEN IT COMES TO INSURANCE POLICIES, THAT'S...
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A LOT EASIER TO GET IT FOR A BIKE PARK THAN IT WOULD BE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES.
UM, WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE EXAMPLES OF SOME, UH, PARKS IN THE AREA WHERE THEY'VE RECENTLY UPDATED OR IMPLEMENTED SOME OF THESE, UM, BIKE LANES OR BIKE PATHS FOR E-BIKES? UM, YEAH.
UH - SOMETHING WE CAN GO TAKE A LOOK AT.
SO, UH, I'VE ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MULTIPLE DESIGNERS.
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ONE, UH, WHO IS WITH KOM TRAILS AND THEY JUST DID...THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING A PUMP TRACK FOR ROUND ROCK.
UM, THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS RECENTLY DONE IN GEORGETOWN, ANOTHER ONE IN KYLE, UM, AND I HAVE, UH, UH, A F - A FRIEND OF MINE WHO, UM, OWNS ACTION SPORTS DESIGNS AND THEY MAKE PARKS ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
UM, AND THEN I'VE, I'VE, I'VE HAD MORE THAN THAT TOO.
SO GETTING BIDS AND GETTING, UM, UH, AN IDEA OF WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND WHAT, WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT ISN'T, YES, WE CAN, I CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
UM, I THINK FOR THIS CITY, WE'RE, WE'RE SMALL ENOUGH TO WHERE...
LIKE WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE PROBLEMS, RIGHT? NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT FIRST PROBLEM.
NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE ZERO SIDEWALKS OR BIKE PATHS.
AND A COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY ACTIVITY FOCUSED.
UM, PEOPLE MOVE HERE FOR THOSE, FOR THIS.
UH, LIKE WE HAVE THE LAKE, ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO WE NEED TO WORK ON BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS AND, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITH THE EASEMENTS AND GOING FROM DAWN FROM, FROM HERE TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEN FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO SUNSET PARK.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A, A...
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ON THE TOP OF THE LIST, UH, TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS, UM - YEAH, ACTUALLY THAT, I THINK DAVID HAD MENTIONED LAST MEETING THAT YOU HAD AN IDEA OF A PATH.
I WOULD STILL LOVE TO SEE THAT.
YOU, YOU'VE MAPPED THAT ALL OUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I, IF YOU COULD EMAIL IT OR - I DO WANNA JUMP IN.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S GREAT TO DO PLANNING AND BEING A VISIONARY, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE RESEARCH AND DATA IN TERMS OF WHERE ARE THE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE WALKING IN ORDER TO GIVE US AN IDEA.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE, WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL AND US TALK M- MORE ABOUT BECAUSE I ALSO SEE THIS OPPORTUNITY AS A WAY FOR A LOT OF YOUTH WHO ARE WORKING - UH-HUH.
AND THEY NEED A MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT LET'S HAVE A PARK WHERE THEY'RE DOING RECREATION AND OUTDOORS.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN LAGO VISTA, AS YOU MENTIONED, JEFF.
WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHOUT VEHICLES.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT ARE DEPENDING ON THE YOUTH TO GO TO WORK AND COME BACK TO WORK - YEAH.
AND THAT'S THE REALITY FOR MANY FAMILIES ACROSS THE CITY.
AND WE'RE GROWING AND WE'RE EXPANDING.
SO I THINK FOR ME, I WONDER TO WHAT EXTENT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MAYBE A UNIVERSITY THAT CAN HELP US DO FURTHER RESEARCH TO REALLY MAKE SURE WHERE CAN WE START REALLY THINKING.
WE HAVE DAVID AND WE HAVE MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE DECISION AND PLANNING.
BUT I MEAN, TO REALLY START AND JUMPSTART AN INITIATIVE HERE.
AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE PARTNERSHIP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS OF AUSTIN.
THEY HAVE A TRANSPORTATION INSTITUTE.
MING RUNS THAT INSTITUTE, AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REALLY PUSH AND PROPEL TO REALLY GET ESTABLISHED DATA, GET THE RESEARCH, AND THEN HELP THE PRAC ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO START THINKING ABOUT WHERE DO WE START THE PLANNING.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, AS YOU MENTIONED, JEFF, IT'S THE SIDEWALKS.
IT'S REALLY, WE NEED SIDEWALKS IN THIS CITY.
WE NEED SIDEWALKS AND WE NEED WITH THE GROWTH AND THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ON A SEPARATE LEVEL AND OTHER BUSINESSES, LIKE WE WANT THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK AND BIKE AROUND, YOU KNOW? SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING OVER FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU CAN WALK DOWN THE STREET AND HAVE DINNER WITH YOUR FAMILY OR HANG OUT AND IT'S SAFE, RIGHT? OR IF YOU'RE GOING OFF A BOGGY AND YOUR KID HAS TO RIDE AN E-BIKE TO SCHOOL, WHICH HAPPENS, BECAUSE I'VE SOLD THEM AND I, I SEE THEM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RIDING IN NOT THE DARK, BUT IN A BAD, YOU KNOW, IN BAD TIMES ON LOMAN FORD ROAD.
AND I HAVE A MOTORCYCLE AND I CAN TELL YOU, PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION.
LIKE, SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SCARY.
SO YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE DO NEED TO LIKE REALLY FOCUS ON IN MY OPINION.
UM, AND WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, BUT I THINK THAT HAVING THAT BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE, IT WOULD REALLY, REALLY BENEFIT THE CITY IN A LOT OF WAYS.
SO EVEN FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, BECAUSE JUST THE WAY THAT WE HAVE THINGS GROWING WITH DAWN GROWING, WITH LOAMING GETTING MORE BUSY - YES.
WE HAVE RESTAURANTS OPENING UP, THERE'S OTHER THINGS COMING AND THEN THERE'S, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD THAT, HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE, NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HELP WITH THE BLUEPRINT OF JUST KEEPING THE TRAFFIC DOWN, BUT IT WOULD ALSO, I THINK, HELP FOR TOURISM, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THEN YOU'RE GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO WALK IN BIKE PLACES WHERE THEY CAN GO TO SHOPS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
THEY'RE NOT GETTING OUT OF THEIR CAR.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE A, A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT JUST IN GENERAL.
I HAVE A SE- SECONDARY QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE E-BIKE EDUCATION BECAUSE I, UM, I DO AGREE WE NEED TO HAVE FURTHER, UM, EDUCATION, NOT ONLY FOR YOUTH, BUT ALSO FOR JUST ADULTS.
AND, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT KIND OF E-BIKES, BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE E-BIKES, JEFF, THAT ARE RUNNING OFF, WHAT, 20, 30 MILES PER
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HOUR? IS THERE - RIGHT.SO YOU HAVE, AND I HAVE THAT ON MY, I HAVE ALL THIS STUFF IN MY SLIDE DECK.
BUT YEAH, SO YOU HAVE CLASS ONE, WHICH GOES TO 20 AND IT'S PEDAL ASSIST.
AND YOU HAVE CLASS TWO, WHICH IS BASICALLY IT GOES UP TO 28, RIGHT? AND CLASS THREE, IT'S 28 MILES AN HOUR.
UM, AND THAT'S ON PEDAL BIKES, RIGHT? LIKE A PEDAL ASSIST BIKE.
E-MOTOR BIKES, THE SKY'S THE LIMIT.
I MEAN, THERE'S E-MOTOBIKES OUT THERE THAT GO OVER 90.
RIGHT? SO, AND SOME OF THEM ARE OUT ON OUR ROADS.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S NO REGULATION THERE.
AND THAT KIND OF TIES INTO THE E-BIKE SAFETY TRAINING THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS, LOOK, IF WE'RE GOING, IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THAT, THEN THEY GO THROUGH A COURSE.
IT WOULD BE, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THREE DAYS, RIGHT? AND YOU HAVE THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS.
LIKE IF THEY'RE UNDER A CERTAIN AGE AND THERE SHOULD BE AN AGE LIMIT TO IT.
UM, AND THEN BASICALLY, AND I KNOW EVERYONE WAS KIND OF AGAINST THIS, BUT AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, I THINK IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO MAKE SURE THAT, HEY, LOOK, THE BIKE GOES THROUGH A, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY THIS FOR A PEDAL BIKE.
I'M NOT FOR THIS, BUT FOR A NON-PEDAL BIKE, LIKE AN EMOTO, IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH A REGISTRATION PROCESS.
AND THEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR CERTIFICATION AND YOUR, YOUR COMPLETION FOR THE, THE BIKE SAFETY, THEN, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THE OFFICER DRIVES BY AND YOU DON'T SEE THE RED THING, GUESS WHAT? YOUR BIKE'S GETTING IMPOUNDED.
AND NO, LIKE NO STRIKES, LIKE THAT, AND MAKE IT, MAKE IT TO WHERE IT STOPS BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE GONNA KEEP DOING IT.
LIKE I'VE GROWN UP AROUND THIS KIND OF GROUP MY WHOLE LIFE.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO IT, WE, BUT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE OPTION, RIGHT? LIKE, HEY, IF YOU DO THE CLASS, YOU GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND IF YOUR BIKE'S MARKED PROPERLY AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR CERTIFICATE, YOU CAN DO IT.
BUT THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO THESE RULES, WHICH MEANS THAT LIKE, UH, LIKE HINES HAD TALKED TO ME ABOUT EARLIER, LIKE A WAKE SPEED, RIGHT? LIKE YOU CANNOT GO OVER 15 MILES AN HOUR, RIGHT? THERE, THERE'S GOTTA BE RULES AROUND IT BECAUSE IF WE'RE LETTING THESE GO ON BIKE PATHS AND WE HAVE MOMS AND CHILDREN WALKING THEIR KIDS WITH STROLLERS, IT'S, IT, IT'S A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
UM, SO - I WAS GONNA ADD ANOTHER THING.
I THINK WHERE I WAS ALSO LEADING WITH THAT QUESTION, THE CLASSIFICATIONS.
WELL, BEFORE I, I GET TO THAT QUESTION, IS THE SUGGESTION THEN THAT YOU'RE MAKING, JEFF, THAT PEDAL BIKES SHOULDN'T GO THROUGH REGISTRATION PROCESS, BUT - NO, IT'D BE, I, I THINK A PEDAL BIKE IS, UH, EVEN THE, THE, UM, THE E-BIKE PEDAL BIKES, NO, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, EVEN LIKE FOR MYSELF, UH, I'VE HAD AN E-M, UH, E-PEDAL BIKE, UH, THAT HAD A CHIP IN IT.
RIGHT? THAT ALLOWED ME TO GO OVER 30 MILES AN HOUR, BUT I HAD TO PEDAL IT HARDER THAN, TO GET IT TO GO THERE, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T, IT GOES BY THE OUTPUT OF THE, THE PERSON.
IT ASSISTS YOU, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO PUSH IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND KIDS GOING OVER 30 MILES AN HOUR ON A E-MOTORBIKE OR A E-PEDAL BIKE.
UM, NOW THE E-MOTOR IS, LIKE I SAID, DIFFERENT STORY.
AND DO YOU HAVE ALREADY CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH THOSE REGULATIONS OR CLASS, OR DOES IT VARY BY CITY BY CITY? 'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING STATEWIDE RIGHT NOW.
BUT, BUT I PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD BOILERPLATE FOR THAT.
UM, THAT WE COULD, WE COULD WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEM INVOLVED, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT THEY MAKE THE EFFORT WITH THE KIDS.
AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME, BUT THEY, BUT THE PERCEPTION, IT, IT, WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT RELATIONSHIP TO WHERE THEY, THEY TRUST THAT THEY DON'T RUN.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, AND AS WELL, THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPONENT INTO THIS E-BIKE EDUCATION, PENALTIES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HARASSING E-BIKERS AS WELL ON THE ROAD.
BECAUSE THERE'S MANY CASES THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THE CITY AND THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING REPORTED.
AND KIDS ARE GETTING HURT BECAUSE THERE ARE VEHICLES THAT THEN ARE CHASING THESE KIDS DOWN - YEAH.
BECAUSE OF THE BAD PERCEPTION OF E-BIKES.
SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PENALIZING.
WE HAVE REG- REGULATIONS AND PENALTIES FOR THOSE WHO ARE HARASSING E-BIKERS.
YEAH, THAT'S, UM, AND THAT GOES FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AS, AND, AND, AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF IT.
UH, WHEN I SENT THE CITY COUNCIL, AND KAREN, YOU GOT IT, UH, AND THE MAYOR, MY REASONING FOR FILING THE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE OFFICER, I DRAFTED A SAFETY ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY AND IT PULLED FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S SAFETY ORDINANCE REGARD- REGARDING E-BIKES IN THE CITY OF MEANDER.
IT DISCUSSED IMMEDIATELY WHAT WE COULD DO RIGHT NOW, THE PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AS TO PUTTING MARKING ON OUR SIDE STREETS FOR PEOPLE TO SAFELY
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GO TO AND FROM OUR PARKS, TO AND FROM SCHOOL, UH, ON WHICH STREETS THOSE COULD BE PUT.AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE CITY CAN ENACT IN THEIR SAFETY ORDINANCE A HELMET LOG AND A SPEED LOG.
BUT I, I'D LIKE TO SEND THAT TO Y'ALL.
MAYBE SHE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
IT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS LINED OUT.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT IS THAT WHEN IT IS, UM, PUT INTO ACTION, THAT WE ARE NOT LENIENT WITH IT.
UM, WE HAVE TO STICK, STICK BY IT.
BUT THAT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
BUT, UH, THE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT, LIKE PAINTING ON THE ROADWAYS, THE ISSUE IS THAT THE ROADWAYS AREN'T BIG ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE HARDEST PROBLEM WE, WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WHEN THEY DID THE HIGHWAYS, THEY DIDN'T GIVE US ANY EXTRA ROOM, UM, ON THE SIDE, LIKE FOR SHOULDERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO A LOT OF THE ROADS LIKE OFF OF LOHMAN, THE BACK ROADS THROUGH LAGO, IF YOU GO DOWN TO PA- PASEO, THERE'S, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
IT'S, AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SHOULDER AT ALL.
UM, WHEN WE TALKED IN THE LA - PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT BIKE SAFETY, I HAD MENTIONED, I RECALL, LIKE, THIS ROAD STUDY AND PLANNING THING THAT HAD BEEN DONE SOME YEARS AGO, AND I'M STILL TRYING TO PUT MY HANDS ON IT, BUT THEY'D ACTUALLY, UM, LOOKED AT HOW MUCH RIGHT AWAY THE CITY HAS.
AND SO LOHMAN, THEY HAD ROOM FOR, UM, A LANE OR BIKE PATH OR SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE.
BOGGY FORD, THE, THE IDEA WAS ADD A MIDDLE THIRD LANE THAT COULD SERVE AS A TURN LANE, AND THEY ALSO HAD ROOM FOR, ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE FOR A TRAIL OR SIDEWALK.
SO THERE'S BEEN SOME ANALYSIS OF DONE BEFORE JUST TO HELP MAKE SOME OF THE BUSIER ROADS - YEAH.
AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, IS IT POSSIBLE, DO WE HAVE ROOM ON DAWN DRIVE TO RELINE AT LEAST ON ONE SIDE AND HAVE A BIKE LANE? SO ANYWAYS, WE' STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT STUFF, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO FIND THAT OLD STUDY.
BECAUSE IF WE COULD PULL THAT OUT AND THEN MAYBE IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WILL TO DO IT, MAYBE UPDATE, OBVIOUSLY THE PRICING ON THAT WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER NOW.
IT'S GONNA BE HUGELY EXPENSIVE, BUT AT LEAST IF WE KINDA START LOOKING AT THAT AS A POSSIBILITY AND HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE VISION FOR THE CITY.
LIKE WE COULD, WE COULD RELINE THE, THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH WHAT, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE.
UM, WHICH LEADS ME TO, WELL, AND SO ANYWAYS, THE CERTIFICATE, UM, LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT TO WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HOLD THE KIDS ACCOUNTABLE, PUT THEM THROUGH A COURSE, HOLD THE PARENTS ACCOUNTABLE, RIGHT? YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOLDING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING AGAINST THEM ACCOUNTABLE, RIGHT? ACCOUNTABILITY, I THINK IS THE, THE WORD HERE, RIGHT? AND, AND WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT W- WE, WE MARCH TOWARDS THIS AS HARD AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING SMALLER.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S NOT GETTING LESS, IT'S NOT GETTING ANY MORE OR LESS, ANY LESS EXPENSIVE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING AWAY.
UM, IT'S THE WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE GETTING AROUND.
I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IDEAS, UM, EVEN INTER - INCORPORATING IT INTO OUR GOLF COURSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
JUST LOTS OF COOL I- IDEAS THAT WE COULD DO.
UM, WHICH LEADS ME TO THE LAST PART, RIGHT? IT'S THE BIKE PARK, RIGHT? WE TALKED ABOUT THE BONANZA PROPERTY AND I, I WISH I COULD SHOW YOU THIS AND I MIGHT JUST PASS MY PHONE AROUND SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT.
UM, BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR WHERE WE CAN START.
UM, LOOKING AT THE TOP PORTION, YOU HAVE TWO, UM, TWO, UH, AREAS WHERE WE CAN DO LIKE A LITTLE TYKES PUMP TRACK FOR THE LITTLE KIDS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN HAVE LIKE A LITTLE AREA THERE WHERE THE MOMS CAN SIT DOWN.
YOU GUYS GOOD? YOU GOT IT? YEAH, SO - I'M JUST IMPRESSED.
SO BA- BASICALLY YOU'D HAVE ONE FOR THE LITTLE KIDS, RIGHT? AND THEN A COUPLE PICNIC TABLES IN AN AREA FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PARENTS TO SIT AROUND.
YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN ADVANCED PUMP TRACK.
AND AS THAT GOES OFF, RIGHT, YOU HAVE A FLAT, UH, AREA ON TOP AND THEN IT DROPS INTO A RAVINE.
SO WORKING FROM RIGHT TO LEFT, YOU WOULD DO LIKE A, WHAT IN A SKI WORLD, RIGHT? GREEN, BLUE, AND BLACK AND DOUBLE BLACK.
AND IT WOULD GET HARDER AS YOU GO ACROSS.
AND THEN IT WOULD FUNNEL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A TRAIL THAT CAME BACK UP, RIGHT? AND THAT WAY YOU WOULD KIND OF COVER EVERYTHING.
THE FIRST THING I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO IS, IS FOR THE KIDS, RIGHT? IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FAR.
A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, GO TAKE THEIR KIDS OUT ON THE STRIDERS AND THEN WORK WITH, UM, WORK TOWARDS GETTING MORE ADVANCED AFTER WE DO THE GREEN LINES.
AND THEN DOING DIRT AT FIRST, GETTING EVERYTHING PUT IN CORRECTLY, MAKING SURE THEY'RE, IF THERE'S ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE, WE MAKE THEM BEFORE WE PAVE ANYTHING.
SO WE CAN KIND OF ROUGH IT IN, SEE WHAT WORKS.
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BEFORE WE PUT ALL THE MONEY INTO IT.UM, AND THAT WILL ALSO GIVE US TIME TO, TO RAISE FUNDS, RIGHT? UM, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
SO, UM, YEAH, LIKE HINES IS PASSING AROUND.
THERE'S - YEAH, THAT'S, UM - IT'S, UH, IT MIGHT HAVE CLOSED DOWN.
IT'S A PERFECT LITTLE SPOT TO START.
HOW FAR, HOW LONG ARE THOSE? I MEAN, THAT, THE - I THINK IT'S LIKE TWO ACRES.
IT'S REALLY THREE ACRES TOTAL IF YOU LIKE PULL THE RAVINE AND OPEN IT UP FLAT.
BUT THE WAY IT SITS IS TWO ACRES.
UM, AND YEAH, IT'S GOT, I, I THINK IT'S PERFECT FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO START.
UM, AND THEN WITH THE BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THEN IF, AS WE BUILD ON THAT SUNSET PARK, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR SOMETHING MUCH BIGGER, UM, WHICH I'VE LOOKED AT, UH, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT I THINK THAT IT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT MY GOAL AND DREAM IS, IS TO MAKE THIS PLACE TO WHERE THE BIKE INDUSTRY WILL BRING REVENUE INTO THE CITY.
AND IT CAN ABSOLUTELY BE DONE HERE.
I'VE BEEN TO MOUNTAIN BIKE PARKS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UM, I'VE RACED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THERE ARE, WE HAVE THE PERFECT SPOT TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN, ENJOY IT, SHOP HERE, BIKE HERE, ENJOY THE LAKE, RIGHT? THE THINGS, WELL, THEY CAN, AND, UM, AND LEAVE.
YOU KNOW? SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT EVEN JUST TO BUILD OUR CITY AROUND THAT, RIGHT? LIKE IT, THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT BENTONVILLE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
UM, THEIR WHOLE CITY IS BASED AROUND BIKING AND THE WALTONS RUN IT OBVIOUSLY, SO THE MONEY FLOW IS PROBABLY NOT A PROBLEM, RIGHT? UM, BUT IT DOES BRING IN REVENUE, YOU KNOW? AND WE HAVE OTHER MOUNTAIN BIKE PARKS AROUND HERE TOO, WHICH WILL HELP THEIR REVENUE.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO, TO INVEST IN IT MORE THAN JUST THAT PARK, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD START.
SO, UM - THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN ON, THAT'S BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR TWO YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO SOMETHING WITH BONANZA FOR A - WELL - YEAH.
I'VE GOT, UM, WE'VE GOT THE PEOPLE TO START WHEN WE HAVE THE, THE, UM, THE, WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO RAISE THE FUNDS AND, UM, HINES WAS GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO GET INTO THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THE FIN - LIKE AS FAR AS THE HARD NUMBERS, I DON'T HAVE THEM.
I'M NOT PREPARED FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.
I AM WORKING WITH, UH, MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM AND THEY ARE READY TO COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK.
UH, AND, UM, THE GUY WHO'S OUT IN ROUND ROCK, HE'S GONNA BE HERE NEXT WEEK, SO I'M GONNA GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
IT'S NOT DONE YET, SO I'M GONNA GET A BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, KINDA GET BEHIND THE VEIL AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND THEN, UH, MAYBE WE CAN BRING HIM DOWN HERE AND JUST TO KINDA GET A PEEK.
I'VE SENT HIM OVER, UH, THE TOPOGRAPHICAL OF IT, BE LIKE, "HEY, THIS IS KINDA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT." AND HE LOVED THE CONCEPT.
AND I MEAN, IT, THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE WE CAN GET TO DO IT.
AND WE HAVE TRAIL, UH, NONPROFITS THAT ARE WITHIN AUSTIN FREE RIDE 512 THAT WE CAN BENEFIT FROM THEM.
UM, MYSELF AND DAVID, WE HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH RED BULL AND SOME OF THEIR RIDERS AND, AND WE CAN TIE INTO GETTING SPONSORSHIP MONEY, UM, THROUGH COMPANIES.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE CAN DO IT.
SO, UM, YEAH, I JUST, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS, RIGHT? LIKE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT, WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE FOR US TO GET A CONTRACTOR OUT THERE TO GET A GOOD, A BID? LIKE CAN I GET THE OKAY TO DO THAT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, AND I'M, I'LL, I'LL PUT MYSELF OUT THERE.
LIKE I WOULD LIKE THE PROJECT MANAGER, THE, THE, THE, THE BIKE PARK.
I'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE ON IT.
UM, AND IF IT'S GONNA BE HERE, I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT.
I'VE SEEN THEM DONE RIGHT AND I'VE SEEN THEM DONE WRONG.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE DONE RIGHT.
UM, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THE ONE IN ROUND ROCK LOOKS REALLY GOOD AND THE ONE IN GEORGETOWN LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
BUT TO BE FAIR, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING EITHER.
WE'RE MAKING A TRAIL NETWORK WITH JUMPS AND A PUMP TRACK.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE TRAIL BUILDERS HERE IN A, IN A COMMUNITY OF MOUNTAIN BIKERS THAT WOULD, I MEAN, WE COULD GET HELP FROM THEM.
I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD PITCH IN.
UM - THE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND GRANT POSSIBILITIES ARE GOOD WITH THIS KIND OF THING, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM SCHOOLS.
IT'S JUST GREAT AND, UM, THE PARK IS ALMOST A SEPARATE THING TO ME.
YOU KNOW - WELL, YOU CAN TIE IT ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? IT CAN BE ALL TIED TOGETHER.
LIKE YOU THINK ABOUT IT, LIKE IF THE KIDS GET OFF FROM HIGH SCHOOL OR FROM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL OR FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND, AND MOM WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, THEY PICK THEM UP AND THEY WANNA GO HANG OUT AND RIDE AROUND THE LITTLE PARK, THEY CAN.
THE KIDS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY CAN RIDE DOWN AND HOP RIGHT OFF
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LOWMAN AND THEY CAN DRIVE RIGHT DOWN DAWN DRIVE AND THEY CAN RIDE AND THEY WILL.LIKE I, I GUARANTEE YOU, WE PUT THIS IN, IT WILL BE PACKED.
THERE'S KIDS WHO WANT THIS, THERE'S PARENTS WHO WANT IT.
UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF SUPPORT.
IT'S JUST PUTTING THE, THE RIGHT THINGS IN ACTION TO, TO GET IT DONE.
UM, AND I KNOW HOW TO DO THIS STUFF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO WHAT YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE PROCESS.
SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T DO AND, AND WHEN TO HIT THE GO BUTTON AND I'LL DO IT.
REAL INFORMATIVE AND I THINK THERE'S A, A LOT OF TO-DOS HERE.
I MEAN, IT ALMOST BEGS FOR ANOTHER AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING TO COME BACK WITH SOME INFORMATION.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE,
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, UH, POTENTIAL AT BONANZA.
WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN COMING TO LIKE SAY A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN? OKAY.
UNLESS, UNLESS I'M OUT OF TOWN.
YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, ONCE A MONTH SOMETIMES IS PROBLEMATIC, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S SO LONG IN BETWEEN OUR MEETINGS AND THEY'RE ALMOST ALWAYS, NOT ALMOST ALWAYS, BUT OFTEN THEY'RE AFTER CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY MET.
YOU KNOW, SO - EVERYONE'S WORN OUT BY THEN TOO.
JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL, I'LL PUT IT IN MY SCHEDULE AND FIGURE IT OUT.
AND IT, IT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME PROJECTIONS ON HOW MUCH SOME OF THIS, EVEN IF IT'S IN A PHASED APPROACH, LIKE YOU SAID, THE LITTLE TIKES AREA FIRST AND - YEAH.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY WORK WITH THE KIDS FIRST.
LIKE IN, BECAUSE THE BIGGEST THING THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED, UM, WHEN I HELPED BUILD STATION MOUNTAIN BIKE PARK AND RHETT, WHO'S A YOUNG ENTREPRENEUR AND HE WAS REALLY EXCITED AND HE WANTED TO GET IT ALL DONE.
AND HE WANTED BIG JUMP LINES FOR ALL OF HIS FRIENDS AND EVERYONE TO RIDE.
BUT WHAT HE DIDN'T REALIZE WAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE WASN'T THERE.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP BIKE PARKS GOING ARE KIDS AND FAMILIES.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD GREEN LINE TO WHERE IF MOM WANTS TO GO OUT AND RIDE THE BIKE AND BE SAFE WITH HER KIDS, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK OUT AS WELL.
YOU NEED SOMETHING TO WHERE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE, THEY CAN GET BETTER.
UM, AND HONESTLY, WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THAT, THE TRAIL LINES WITH THE JUMPS, THAT WON'T TAKE THAT LONG.
SO AS WE'RE, WE GET DONE WITH THE GREEN, WE'LL ALREADY BE WORKING ON THE BLUE AND THEN THE BLACK.
AND WE HONESTLY, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE AND WE CAN BE WORKING ON THEM SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SO IT WON'T, UM, BUT THE GREENS AND THE BLUES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT.
I WOULD SAY GETTING THE, THE, THE DIRT SIDE OF THAT DONE FIRST WITH THE, WITH THE LITTLE KIDS AND THEN, UH, THE MORE ADVANCED ONE AS WELL.
AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON THE TRAIL LINES.
UM, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF WORK.
TRAIL WORK WITH JUMPS IS DIFFERENT THAN A PUMP TRACK.
SO IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY BUILDING A PUMP TRACK, WE CAN BE OUT WORKING ON THE TRAILS AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, IT'S JUST TWO DIFFERENT TYPE OF, OF WORK.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, MARK THINKS A GREAT IDEA, MARK, TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
IF WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY GET A START, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN THOUGH.
IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, UH, TIME TO, TO NAIL IT DOWN.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU WANT NUMBERS, AND YOU'RE A NUMBERS PERSON.
UM, BUT I WILL GET, I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CORRECT PICTURE ON IT ONCE I TALK TO JAKE WHO RUNS KOM TRAILS BECAUSE I JUST WANT HIM TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT AND HE'S LOOKED AT THE, UM, WHAT I'VE GIVEN, THE SAME THING YOU JUST SAW, RIGHT? BUT IF HE GETS A VISUAL ON IT AND HE CAN KIND OF GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD COST.
UM, IF WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA CONTRACT YOU TO DO THIS, ALL OF IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT BE? I MEAN, I'VE LOOKED AT AI AND I'VE GOT SOME FIGURES, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OTHER THING TOO IS PULLING, WHAT CAN WE PULL OUT OF SOME OF THE, THE BUDGET AND THE FUNDS AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GONNA RAISE, RIGHT? AND THEN I THINK MATCHING THOSE BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC PRIVATE.
SO I WANT IT TO BE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PULL FROM THESE FUNDS IF THAT, IF POSSIBLE.
WE WANNA DO THAT, BUT THEN WE WANNA MATCH IT, RIGHT? SO IT'S, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.
UM, SO THAT, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES ON IN THAT PROCESS, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE WE COULD FIGURE IT OUT.
DEFINITELY SPONSORSHIPS FOR SURE.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK MORE SO THAN THE FINANCIAL MECHANICS OR MECHANISMS, I THINK THEN MY QUESTION BECOMES, KAREN, LIKE, IF IT IS A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP, I THINK ABOUT THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT EXTENT IS THERE THE CAPACITY WHERE THEN THE PARKS AND RECS, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THAT PARK? WHO'S GONNA MAKE SURE
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THAT IF THERE'S ANY REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, ARE WE, IS, IS THE CITY OPEN TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS? IS - RIGHT.OR I KNOW DAVID, YOU TALKED TO THE EDC.
I MEAN, IS THIS - WELL - WHO WOULD BE THE, THE ENTITY? SO IF YOU LOOK, THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS IN MY, IN, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN THAT YOU CAN DO IT WITH.
SO FREE RIDE 512, THEY'RE A NONPROFIT.
THEY HAVE MULTIPLE TRAIL NETWORKS THROUGHOUT AUSTIN.
THEY HAVE ONE AT CAB MOUNTAIN.
THEY HAVE ONE OVER IN BRUSHY CREEK.
UM, AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN SMITHVILLE, LIKE A BIG JUMP PARK.
AND, UH, AND THEY DO TRAIL MAINTENANCE.
LIKE THE ONE THING YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT ABOUT MOUNTAIN BIKERS, WE DON'T LIKE RIDING JUNK TRAILS.
SO THEY'LL PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF IT THEMSELVES.
THE RIDERS MORE THAN LIKELY WILL HANDLE A LOT OF IT THEMSELVES.
UH, IF WE WORK WITH SOMEONE LIKE FREE RIDE 512, THE, THEY HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALWAYS STAYING OUT THERE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS LONG AS I'M HERE, I'LL BE OUT THERE MAKING SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD.
LIKE IT, IT'S, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE MY BABY, YOU KNOW? SO I'M, AND, AND WE CAN SPONSOR THAT.
WE CAN GET OTHER COMPANIES TO SPONSOR IT.
I'M WORKING WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL WITH DAVID, THE, UH, VICE PRINCIPAL TO STARTING A MOUNTAIN BIKE CLUB THERE, UM, AND POSSIBLY A TEAM THAT WE CAN COMPETE AGAINST WITH TRAVIS, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS.
UM, THAT'S A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM, RIGHT? WE CAN START A CLUB THERE AND THEN THEY CAN SPONSOR IT KIND OF LIKE A BOY SCOUT THING WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GO OUT AND TAKE CARE OF TRAIL A, B, AND C, RIGHT? AND THAT'S THEIR BABY.
AND THEN WE PUT UP A SIGN UP THERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SPONSORED BY WHATEVER.
KIND OF LIKE DROP THE TRAIL TYPE THING.
SO I, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF WAYS TO FIX, FIGURE THAT.
I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO FIGURE OUT THE CITY ASPECT OF WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE.
UM, THE BIG THING FOR ME, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SAY THIS ON THE MICROPHONE.
I DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD CHARGE FOR IT.
USER FEE? I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A USER FEE ON THIS.
I THINK THAT IF WE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING BIGGER AT SUNSET PARK, THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ELABORATE, LIKE A BIG, LIKE SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL, THEN YES.
BUT I THINK OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES THIS AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE A, A PLAYGROUND OR ANYTHING ELSE WHERE IT'S JUST 2026 THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR KIDS ARE ON BIKES NOW.
THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT, IF A LOT, IF YOU'RE A LAGO VISTA RESIDENT AND THEN YOU HAVE A 78645 ON YOUR, ON YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR ID, UH, I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD HAVE TO CHARGE THEM FOR THAT.
AND IF WE DID HAVE TO CHARGE, WE, IT WOULD BE A MINIMAL FEE PER YEAR, RIGHT? TRY TO KEEP IT AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT THESE KIDS ON THEIR BIKES.
THERE, THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY'RE ON BIKES AND NOT MOTORCYCLES.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF BLUE COLLAR FAMILIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GO OUT AND SPEND.
OUR ECONOMY IS REALLY MESSED UP RIGHT NOW.
SO THE CHEAPEST THAT WE CAN GET THIS FOR OUR KIDS TO GET OUT AND RIDE, IN MY OPINION, IS VERY IMPORTANT.THAT'S WHAT GETS BMX STARTED.
THAT'S WHY KIDS START RIDING BMX.
UM, AND I GREW UP ALL AROUND THAT.
SO, UM, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO.
LET'S NOT GET CRAZY WITH FEES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, DAVID, I THINK YOU HAVE A - YEAH.
JUST EARLIER THIS WEEK OR END OF LAST WEEK, SOME, WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, UH, WE HAVE A DEALERSHIP AND ANOTHER CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WHO ARE WILLING TO SPONSOR PERMANENTLY TO DO MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AS LONG AS WE HAVE IT IN SCOPE.
PREVIOUSLY WHEN I MENTIONED THIS, WE HAD SEVEN COMPANIES THAT WERE PLEDGED.
WE HAVE EIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'VE GAINED THREE.
SO I DON'T WANT US TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME POSITIONING ON THE IDEA OF WHAT IFS.
DUE DILIGENCE, I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, O- OFF TO THE WIND, BUT THERE ARE LITTLE STEPS WE CAN TAKE RIGHT AWAY IMMEDIATELY.
AND THESE ARE LIKE THE CRITICAL THINGS OF WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR MAINTENANCE.
WE CAN HASH THIS OUT REALLY QUICK.
HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, AT THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING WE CAN BRING UP SOME OF THESE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WITH SPONSORSHIPS IS THAT WE'LL, PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEND THEIR MONEY.
SO IF THERE'S SOMEONE WILLING TO ENTER INTO SOMETHING, WE CAN'T LET IT GO BY THE WAYSIDE.
SO - I UNDERSTAND THAT POINT, BUT AGAIN, WITH SPONSORSHIPS AND WHEN YOU HAVE PRIVATE BUSINESSES, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHO ARE THOSE PLAYERS - CORRECT.
DOING THE, THE MAPPING - YEAH.
OF WHO THE ENTITIES ARE, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHAT THE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO COME IN - THAT'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING FOR.
AND THEN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND HAVE BETTER IDENTIFICATION OF WHO IS COMING TO THE TABLE TO DO THIS.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOES COME DOWN TO MONEY AND WHO'S GONNA POUR - CORRECT.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF MONEY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT POSSIBLE.
AND, AND THE VISION THAT I HEAR
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FROM JEFF, RIGHT? WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROJECT LONG TERM THAT IS GONNA BE SUSTAINED AND THAT'S GONNA BE MAINTAINED FOR THE SAKE OF THE, THE CITY, RIGHT? AND RIGHT NOW I THINK WHERE I'M, MY CONCERNS ARE IS LIKE WHERE THE CITY IS TO, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.I KNOW YOU'VE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOUR HOMEWORK AND, RIGHT? BUT I THINK MY QUESTION THEN COMES TO KAREN, RIGHT? THERE'S THIS VISION FROM THE COMMUNITY COMING IN, AND TO WHAT EXTENT ARE WE PREPARED TO NOW PUT THIS INTO A CONVERSATION, INITIATE THE CONVERSATION WITH CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THIS PLAN AND THEN MOVE IT FORWARD? WELL, YOU GUYS WILL BE THE DRIVER OF THAT.
I THINK, I SEE THE, UM, SCHEMATIC THAT JEFF DID ON THE POTENTIAL TRAILS.
SO VISUALS ARE ALWAYS IMPORTANT.
I THINK AS YOU GET MORE INFORMATION, GET YOUR GUY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, EVEN GET BALLPARK FIGURES OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU NEED TO PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER.
AND THEN WE NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, AS MARLENE IS BRINGING UP, CITY PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, HOW WOULD THAT WORK, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
IF IT'S, WE'RE DOING IT ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CITY PROCESS AND GO OUT AND SOLICIT AT LEAST THREE BIDS, RIGHT? COMPETITIVE BIDDING.
AND USUALLY THEY'LL CHARGE MORE FOR A CITY BIDDING, A MUNICIPALITY BIDDING THAN THEY WOULD PRIVATE.
AND THEN UNDERSTAND WHAT VEHICLE DO WE USE? WE DON'T HAVE A PARKS FOUNDATION SET UP YET.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT THAT, THAT COULD BE A VEHICLE FOR THAT? CAN SOME OF THIS STUFF FLOW VIA THE EDC? SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER TO FACILITATE THAT CITY PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I THINK IT COULD BE A GREAT MODEL FOR STUFF THAT WE DO ON OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS AS WELL FOR THE CITY.
AND TO THAT POINT, KAREN, I, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ERIC TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE EDC.
AND IF IT'S THE DIRECTION THAT IT'S GOING, LIKE I'D RATHER WAIT TO SEE WHERE THE EDC IS GONNA MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IN THINKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE AND DOING THIS APPROPRIATELY, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT WAS MY CONCERN IS CITY OWNED.
SO WE HAVE TO PLAY A ROLE IN, IN HOW THIS PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS GONNA OCCUR.
BUT IF IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, I, I WANNA WAIT TO SEE HOW THE EDC IS GONNA PROCEED IN THE NEXT MONTH BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GREAT - WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?...
AND VALUABLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF 510 GROUP THAT CAN REALLY HOLD THIS DOWN.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF A FLYER, BUT, UM, BEING THAT IT'S CITY OWNED PROPERTY, UM, HAS ANYBODY CONSIDERED THE THOUGHT OF LEASING THE PROPERTY OUT TO A PRIVATE ENTITY? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT THE EDC CAN STEP IN FOR THE THREE BID ISSUE AND THE ISSUE OF MUNICIPALITIES HIS- HISTORICALLY BEING TERRIBLE AT BUSINESS.
UH, THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN AND THAT IS ONE OF THEM.
UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY OUTLINED A COUPLE DIFFERENT PATHS WE CAN GO.
UH, THE EDC BEING A 503 IS ONE OF THE WAYS, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF WAYS.
I ONLY SAY THE 510 BECAUSE WITHIN A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP, AS JEFF MENTIONED, YOU WANNA HAVE MATCHING FUNDS.
WE WANNA DIVERSIFY THE FINANCIAL PORTFOLIO.
IF WE HAVE A 510C3 THAT'S COLLABORATING WITH DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND WE COULD START APPLYING FOR MORE GRANT FUNDING, WHICH I DID A SPREADSHEET AND STARTED TO LOOK FOR DIFFERENT FOUNDATIONS THAT FUND DIFFERENT PARKS AND FOR CREATION PROJECTS
STRUCTURALLY, AS THE EDC STANDS, IT IS A NONPROFIT.
THE TAX BEING 501 OR FOUR OR ANYTHING, THAT, THAT HAS MORE TO DO WITH HOW WE FILE, BUT RIGHT NOW STRUCTURALLY WE ALREADY CAN ENGAGE WITH THOSE GRANTS AND EVERYTHING.
SO J- JUST TO PUT OUT A LITTLE BIT OF, THAT'S NOT A ROADBLOCK RIGHT NOW.
IT CAN BE EASIER AND THE WAY WE FILE IS DIFFERENT, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT EVEN A ROADBLOCK.
IT'S THE EDC IS OFFICIALLY A CORPORATION AND READY TO START MAKING THESE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OR WITHOUT CITY FUNDING BECAUSE WE HAVE PRIVATE BACKING WHO IS READY TO DO THIS.
YES, BUT AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S THE FILING PIECE WHEN IT COMES TO THE FILE BECAUSE IT'S STILL DESIGNATED AS A CORPORATION, CORRECT? AND THE, THE, IF YOU HAVE THE, THE 510C3 STATUS, THERE'S STILL THE FINANCE, THE FI- FILING TAX PURPOSES DESIGNATION THAT NEEDS TO COME ABOUT THAT.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A BARRIER.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ACCORDINGLY AND APPROPRIATELY.
SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LEASING THE PROPERTY TO SOMEBODY? YEAH.
SUPER, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS AT ALL.
THE BIG THING WITH THIS THAT, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS, UM, IS THAT WE DO DO IT UNDER THE CITY BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE UNDER THE INSURANCE UMBRELLA.
BECAUSE BIKE INSURANCE FOR A PRIVATE BIKE PARK IS ASTRONOMICAL.
'CAUSE IT, IT, THAT, IT'S THAT EXPENSIVE.
THAT'S GOOD TO, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
SO YEAH, IT'S GOTTA BE UNDER THE CITY UMBRELLA.
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DID IT THAT WAY AND OTHER BIKE PARKS HAVE DONE IT THAT WAY.IT JUST, IT'S SUPER, SUPER - YEAH.
EXPENSIVE FOR, UM, FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE.
I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY DETAILS.
WE DON'T NEED TO GET BOGGED INTO THOSE DETAILS RIGHT NOW.
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE, AS KAREN MENTIONED EARLIER, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PROJECTIONS.
UH, WE CAN START OUTLINING SOME POTENTIAL PATHWAYS, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE DAVID HAS SOME AND YOU HAVE SOME FOR BOTH THE TRAILS CONNECTING SCHOOLS AND ALSO THIS PARK.
SO, BUT ONE, AND ALSO FOLLOWING UP ON RULES AND REGS AND REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT THOSE ARE.
THERE'S LIKE MULTIPLE PIECES TO THIS PUZZLE - UH-HUH.
SO THERE'S, UM, SO I THINK THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING, WE PROBABLY NEED TO PRESENT TO THE WHOLE PARKS, UH, COMMITTEE AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A DATE AND, UM, SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION AND GET SOMETHING STARTED.
I WOULD SAY IF YOU COULD GIVE ME LIKE FIVE WEEKS, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT I WANT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING - SURE.
THEM OUT THERE SO THEY CAN GET A VISUAL.
THAT WAY I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I'M GIVING, LIKE WE CAN GET SOME FIGURES THAT ARE ROUGHLY - OKAY.
SOMEWHAT CLOSE, RIGHT? THAT WAY WHEN I COME IN, IF YOU WANT NUMBERS - UH-HUH.
OF WHAT IT'S GONNA COST, THEN I JUST NEED A, LIKE A COUPLE WEEKS TO WHERE I CAN - YEAH.
HAVE THEM COME OUT, DO A, A WALKTHROUGH AND JUST, AND THEN COME BACK TO ME WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE A ROUGH BID, RIGHT? OR SOMETHING TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE AN IDEA.
AND HOPEFULLY ON OUR PART, IT WOULD BE NICE, KAREN, IF WE COULD, IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE STREET, UH, SURVEYS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST FOR POTENTIAL ON LOWMAN FORD AND - NO.
MOUNT DRIVE AND SOME OF THE OTHER TRANSPORTATION POSSIBILITIES - THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME.
THAT, YEAH, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE BIKE PARK.
WE WANNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT - IT'S TRANSPORTATION.
LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, LIKE HAVING THE X, LIKE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND THEN HINES HAS A, A REALLY GOOD, UM, PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'RE ACTUALLY USING IT AT ANOTHER PROJECT AND IT'S, UH, IT'S TRUE GRID.
SO IT ACTUALLY FILTERS THE WATER AND HOLDS IT.
IT, IT'S, IT'S A GRID AND THEN YOU PUT IN ROCK INSIDE OF IT AND IT COMPRESSES, BUT IT ACTUALLY FILTERS THE WATER SO IT'S GOOD FOR IRRIGATION TOO.
IT'S GOOD FOR - WATER, WATER QUALITY.
IT'S GOOD FOR YOUR WATER QUALITY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE ANYWAYS.
SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AND THAT'S, AND THERE, AND THAT'S MIGHT BE A, A CHEAPER WAY OF DOING IT TOO.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, BUT THAT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW - IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR THE WATER QUALITY FOR THE CITY THAN EVEN FOR THE LIKES.
SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THERE.
SO LET'S, LET'S SAY THAT, UH, WE'LL AT LEAST, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NOVEMBER.
I THINK WE HOPEFULLY COME - WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE 11TH.
BUT FOR NOVEMBER 11TH, THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN OUR REGULAR AGENDA MEETING? OR ARE WE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING? WELL, I THINK IT'S WORTH WAIT - WORTHWHILE WAITING.
WORTHWHILE WAITING FOR JEFF IF HE FEELS COMFORTABLE GIVING NUMBERS.
LIKE HE'S BEEN, I'M IN A REGULAR CONTACT WITH A COUPLE OF THE TRAIL COMPANIES AND, UM, YEAH, I COULD PROBABLY GET HIM OUT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND JUST, JUST TO WALK AROUND AND SEE.
UM, AND HE CAN WALK AROUND WITH DAVE AND MYSELF AND WE CAN - OH, WE LOST HIM.
FIGURE IT OUT AND THEN I, WE CAN, UM, GO FROM THERE.
BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR THE BIKE PARK STUFF.
THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS FOR THE WHOLE THING TO PUT TOGETHER.
SO WE, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, EVERYONE WHO'S INVOLVED THERE.
IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EXCITING AND I THINK WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT IT IN SOME WAY.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
[Items IV.2 & IV.3]
ITEM, WHICH IS, UH, THE, WE'RE GONNA COMBINE ITEMS TWO AND THREE.AND, UH, WE, WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAD PRESENTED A, THE SURVEY LAST, UH, LAST MEETING.
WHAT WE DID - YOU'RE ON MICHAEL.
THIS IS THE SUMMARY PRESENTATION.
AND, UH, MARK IS GOING TO PRESENT AND ALSO GIVE US AN UPDATE WITH - AND THIS, THIS WILL BE VERY QUICK BECAUSE I, I KNOW WE'VE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE, THE E-BIKE THING WAS WONDERFUL, SO I DIDN'T WANNA CALL, UM, GIVE ANY SHORT SHRIFT TO THAT.
UM, IT, THE UPDATED JULY 26TH IS NOT CORRECT.
WE JUST UPDATED THIS BACK IN THE EARLY PART OF SEPTEMBER.
UM, IT IS A DIRECTIONAL, UM, SNAPSHOT, NOT A POPULATION ESTIMATE.
IT WAS OPEN FOR, UH, 48 DAYS, UH, MONTH AND A HALF, UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE AROUND SIX WEEKS.
UH, IT DID TAKE 18 TO 35 MINUTES TO COMPLETE, AND WE WERE, IT WAS ESSENTIALLY BUILT AROUND PROGRAMS, TRAILS, UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTED.
SO FOR OUR, OUR RESPONSES, UM, THE, UM, YOU CAN SEE UP ON
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TOP.FROM THE RESPONDENTS, 88% OF THEM LIVED IN, LIVE INSIDE THE, UH, POA.
THAT WILL, UH, ACTUALLY START SHIFTING.
THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THE, UM, WHAT WE FOUND, UM, WHEN WE C - UH, CR - UM, COMPARED NUMBERS FROM THE POA MEMBERSHIPS TO, UH, OUR UTILITY BILLS.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A FAIRLY COMMON WAY OF US TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN, UH, LAGO.
NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS TIMES 2.2, 2.3, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND YOU COME UP WITH A NUMBER OF 12,600, I BELIEVE.
UM, OF THE RESPONSES, WE HAD, UM, RENTERS WHO EITHER HAVE ACCESS, A MAJORITY DO, OTHERS DON'T.
SO, UM, THESE ARE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE EITHER INTO SERRA OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE THE POA BOUNDARIES THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE POA PARKS.
UM, THE NUMBER ONE RESPONSE AS FAR AS, LIKE, WH- WHY PEOPLE COME AND VISIT, UH, NATURE, RELAXATION, UM, EXERCISE, COMMUNITY EVENTS, UM, SOCIALIZING, PLAY, SPORTING ACTIVITIES.
UM, AND MOST PEOPLE DO RATE OUR PARKS AS EITHER GOOD OR EXCELLENT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TIP OF THE HAT TO MICHAEL AND HIS CREW.
UM, THIS ACTUALLY PARALLELED WHAT WE PRESENTED TO, UM, UM, COUNCIL BACK IN, I THINK, JULY OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT OF 25.
UM, NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS SAFETY.
UM, WHEN WE CREATED A, LIKE, KIND OF A LOW HANGING FRUIT WISHLIST, UM, WE, WE STARTED WITH SAFETY.
THAT'S WHEN MY EAGLE
SPECIAL EVENTS, MAINTENANCE, UH, NATURAL AREA UPKEEP AND WAYFINDING AND SIGNAGE.
SO THOSE ARE THE PRIORITIES OF, OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS, AND THAT ARE USING THE PARKS.
UM, PEOPLE WANT A COMMUNITY CENTER.
SOME PLACE INDOORS WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO AND PROBABLY PLAY BASKETBALL, DO WHATEVER.
UM, BUT AN INDOOR FACILITY, IT IS, IT WAS THE, UH, HIGHEST PRIORITY BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT IT.
HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO BY FAR THE MOST EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
TRAILS COULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COMBINE TRAILS, WHICH WOULD BE MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS WITH BIKE TRAILS, THEY ACTUALLY, THOSE TWO COMBINED ACTUALLY GO TO THE TOP OF THE LIST.
SO, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN- INTER - UM, CONNECTIVITY AMONGST THE, UH, CITY.
THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA FIND IT.
UH, LAKE ACCESS, AGAIN, AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION BECAUSE THE CITY IS EFFECTIVELY HAS NO LAKE ACCESS IN TERMS OF, UM, WHERE WE, UH, WHERE WE OWN AND DON'T OWN PROPERTY.
UM, NATURE VIEWING, SWIMMING POOLS IS IMPORTANT.
UM, PARK RESTROOMS, SHADE, AND A BOAT RAMP GOES ALONG WITH LAKE ACCESS.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A PARK ON A LAKE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE A BOAT, UH, BOAT RAMP.
PROGRAMS. NOW, THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT PROGRAMS BEING OFFERED OR CAN BE OFFERED BY THE CITY.
OUTDOOR ADVENTURE, UM, CITY EVENTS LIKE SAY A LOGO FEST, UM, FITNESS, WELLNESS, NATURE STUDIES, OR NATURE EDUCATION.
I, I REMEMBER THAT AS A KID GOING TO THE PARK AND THEY WOULD HAVE NATURE, UM, UH, NATURE EDUCATION AND JUST REALLY DON'T SEE IT HERE.
SENIOR PROGRAMS POPPED UP ON THERE.
UM, TRAILS, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO TRAILS.
UM, FOLKS WANT TO HAVE THE DESTINATIONS CONNECTED.
SO WE ARE ENVISIONING EXACTLY, I'M SORRY DAVID LEFT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE'S, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS CONT - CONNECTING THE DOTS WHERE YOU CAN START HERE AND END UP IN, UH, SUNSET AND, UH, HAVE IT ALL INTERCONNECTED.
UH, RESTROOMS ALONG THE WAY, BENCHES AND SEATING, UM, PATHS, PARKWAYS, AND NATURE TRAIL.
THE, UM, THE TOP, TOP RESPONSE, UH, WAS UPDATE EXISTING PARKS, EXPAND OUR TRAILS, MAINTAIN A- AMENITIES.
AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL THE SURVEY, UH, QUESTIONS ANSWERED, PRESERVE NATURAL AREAS AND RESTORE NATURAL AREAS.
SO, YEAH, THEY WANTED, YES, THE, THE, IT'S, IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS NOT IMPORTANT WHEN YOU COMPARE, UM, WHAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO SPEND IN TERMS OF, UH, TAXES.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AT THE VERY, VERY END, AND WE'RE
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ALMOST DONE.UH, DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE, UH, OF THE, UM, SURVEYED INDIVIDUALS, 56.
UH, I DID GOOGLE, LAGO VISTA CURRENTLY SITS AT 54.
WE ARE, WE ARE AN OLDER COMMUNITY STILL TO THIS DAY.
UH, AND ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE POPULATION CAN'T GET INTO THE POAS.
UH, SAFETY COMES FIRST, UM, COMMUNITY CENTER, OUTDOOR PROGRAMS, UPDATE EXISTING PARKS AND EXPAND THE TRAILS, NEW PARKS PROGRAM, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, BUT NOT EVERYONE SUPPORTS THE FINANCIAL BUR - UH, BURDEN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CONCLUSION OF, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE CAME AWAY WITH FROM THE SURVEY RESULTS, OUR POPULATION IS, IS GONNA GET SMALL, A LARGER AND LARGER PORTION OF OUR POPULATION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET IN PARKS, INTO THE POAS, UM, PARKS.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER.
IT'S STILL KIND OF ON THE WISHLIST AND, UH, I DON'T, I WON'T CALL IT A PIPE DREAM, BUT IT, IT KINDA IS.
UM, AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR SAFE WAYS TO GET AROUND, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT JEFF AND, UH, AND, UM, BILL HAD PRESENTED.
AND WE'LL SEE THAT AS WELL IN THE TRAILS.
UM, THOSE ARE OUR FINAL CON- CONCLUSIONS.
THESE ARE JUST A REPEAT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST, UH, JUST WENT ACROSS.
UM, AND, AND IMPROVE FUND, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FROM SPONSORSHIP, SPONSORSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS.
TRYING TO MAKE THAT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DIFFERENTIATE, OKAY, WHAT'S NEW AND DIFFERENT SINCE THE HALF, THE HALF SURVEY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE HALF SURVEY, UM, THE, UM, UH, THERE WAS NOT ONE MENTION OF BIKE, BIKE TRAILS, BIKE PARKS, NOTHING.
UM, SO IN THE TWO YEARS THAT IT PASSED FROM THERE TO THIS SURVEY, UM, THE TRAILS HAVE BECOME MUCH MORE IMPORTANT AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE BIKES, BIKE TRAILS.
UM, THEY DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE BIG, THE, THE BIG THING BACK THEN WAS SKATEBOARDING, SKATEBOARD PARKS.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A MO - A PUMP PARK, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY INCLUDE THEM AS WELL.
SO I THINK THE KEY HERE IS THAT SURVEY, UM, I KNOW THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME CONCERN, MYSELF INCLUDED, THAT IT IS A SMALL PART OF THE POPULATION.
IT BECOMES ONE FACTOR IN, INTO, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
THERE'S ALSO NEW AND UPDATED INFORMATION YOU GET FROM THE COMMUNITY, YOU GET FROM THE SURVEY, YOU GET FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND WHAT, UM, THE NEEDS ARE AS WELL.
SO WHEN WE PUT IT INTO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, WE'LL FIND, UH, HOPEFULLY FIND A BALANCE WITH ALL THESE THINGS TO GET WHAT THE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE.
UM, IT IS, I THINK AS DAVID MENTIONED, I MEAN, IN THE PAST AND ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST, UH, REALLY EXPENSIVE ITEMS THAT ARE, ARE THEY FEASIBLE, THE COMMUNITY CENTER? WHAT CAN WE WORK ON TO GET SOME OF THE PARKS MOVING? AND I THINK, UM, UH, HOPEFULLY WHEN WE GET THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, UH, DONE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REFLECT SOME OF THE CHANGES AND, UM, UH, WE'LL HAVE SOME LONG-TERM GOALS, BUT, UM, SOME OF THE LARGER ITEMS HAVE, WE, WE, WE KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE, WE KNOW RESIDENTS WANT THEM, BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS FOCUS ON THE ACHIEVABLE ITEMS IN THE SHORTER TERM.
UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THE YOUTH SPORTS FAMILIES IN THE SURVEY AND PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH REPRESENTATION FROM THAT DEMOGRAPHIC, IF YOU WILL.
BUT WE KNOW CLEARLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE USAGE OF THE FIELDS AND THE LEAGUES AND EVERYTHING.
SO I, HOW ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING ON REFLECTING THAT IN THE MASTER PLAN? I, I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE, HAVE TO, HAVE TO BE DIRECT CONTACT BECAUSE, UH, WE TRIED SO HARD TO GET, GET THOSE PEOPLE TO ANSWER SURVEYS, WE JUST COULDN'T GET THEM INCLUDED.
UM, WE HAD EMAILS, WE HAD ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE SOME WORKSHOPS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND INVITING THOSE FOLKS TO REVIEW AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES WITH THE BALL FIELDS AND MAKING SURE WE KEEP THOSE IN THE MASTER PLAN.
THAT'LL ALWAYS BE AN ONGOING, UH, NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY IF WE WANT, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAINLY ENGAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, AS JEFF MENTIONED BEFORE WITH BIKERS, BUT THERE'S ALSO YOUNG AND YOUTH SPORTS WITH BASEBALL AND SOCCER.
SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A BALANCE, RIGHT, AS TO WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THE CITY AND, UM, BUT THE, THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT SINCE WE MISSED THEM ON THE SURVEYS WAS, IS, UH, INCLUDE THEM IN, UM, SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS AS TO THE, UH, THE WHOLE PLAN GETS PUT TOGETHER AGAIN.
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UH, ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, I BELIEVE IT WAS ENVISIONED THAT ANOTHER PHASE WOULD COME THROUGH WITH ANOTHER BALL FIELD, ANOTHER SOFTBALL FIELD, AND YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR TYPICAL COMPLEX WHERE YOU HAVE A CENTER AND THEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR FIELDS ALL FACING OUT.UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW FEASIBLE THAT IS YET SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE EFFLUENT TYPE TWO THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO THOSE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE IT STOPS SHORT.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR, UM, PUBLIC WORKS PROBABLY OR THE UTILITIES AS FAR AS HOW, HOW, UH, TYPE ONE, CONVERTING TO TYPE ONE WOULD, WOULD PLAY INTO THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S A KEY GOAL FOR US IS CONVERSION TO TYPE ONE, AND THEN THAT OPENS UP THE ABILITY TO IRRIGATE THOSE FIELDS - YEAH.
MUCH BETTER AND THEN LEVERAGE THE ADJACENT LAND TO THE FIELD.
YEAH, BECAUSE INITIALLY IT WAS ENVISIONED AS A CLOVER LEAF WITH THAT KIND OF CONCESSION STAND BUILDING, BATHROOMS IN THE MIDDLE.
SO WE HAVE ROOM FOR AT LEAST ONE OTHER FIELD OUT THERE, WHETHER IT'S A BALL, SPECIFIC BALL FIELD OR MULTI-USE FIELD OR WHATEVER.
BUT IT, I THINK ADDING MORE FIELDS AND STUFF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
TO ME, THE CRITICAL PATH TO THAT IS GETTING TO THE TYPE ONE EFFLUENT AND THEN GETTING THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM BUILT OVER THERE BEFORE WE ADD ADDITIONAL FIELDS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF - YEAH, IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY - YEAH.
IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, DRINKING WATER, IRRIGATING THOSE FIELDS.
I DON'T MEAN, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT OFF THE SOCCER GUYS, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, UM, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY IN PLAY THERE TOO AS FAR AS IRRIGATION AND THAT.
AND RIGHT NOW WITH THE PLANT THREE BEING DOWN AND OFFLINE GOING TO THE WATER RESTRICTIONS, WE'RE ON, WE'RE ONLY BEING ABLE TO WATER ONCE A WEEK.
ESPECIALLY NOW, THANKFULLY WE'RE GETTING A BREAK IN THE WEATHER.
IT'S NOT SO HOT, BUT WITH THOSE 100 DEGREE TEMPERATURES, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BURN IT UP.
IT'LL JUST, IT'LL EAT IT UP WHEN YOU GO WATER.
YOU GOTTA PUT WATER ON THE GRASS ON THE FIELDS.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD RIGHT NOW AND LOWER TEMPERATURES, A LITTLE MORE RAIN.
HOW, HOW BIG IS SUNSET PARK? 25 ACRES, I WANNA SAY.
'CAUSE I THINK MY CONCERN IS, IS I STILL DON'T HAVE A FULL FIELD.
UM, SOCCER IS ACTUALLY NOT A FULL MULTI-USE FIELD UP THERE.
UM, COULD YOU MAKE IT? OOH, IT'D BE TIGHT WITH THE WATER IRRIGATION WHERE THOSE ARE AND THE FENCE.
SO, SO IT'S LIKE A SAFETY ISSUE ON THAT SIDE.
YOU'D BE SITTING ON THE, THE HILLS.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I ASKED BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT, UM, A FIELD BASICALLY.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GONNA WIN ANY TROPHIES FOR THE, UH, DESIGN OF THAT, UH, THAT ENTIRE PARK.
THAT WAS A LITTLE, LITTLE HAPHAZARD.
BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH, SO.
AND, UM, I THINK, UH, THAT'S A ONGOING, UM, ACTIVITY AND CERTAINLY THIS RECENT UPDATES ON E-BIKES AND SAFETY AND THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT IT'LL, IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS FOR SURE.
THE, UM - ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH.
ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE MASTER PLAN.
WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF TIMING ON THAT? WELL, WE ARE PRETTY DARN CLOSE.
I MEAN, REALLY IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE'S SOME TEXT THAT'S GOTTA GO INTO THAT.
UM, BUT ACTUALLY, IN REALITY, THAT TEXT WAS INCLUDED, UM - MONTHS AGO.
MAYBE, I WANNA SAY A YEAR AGO.
SO WE HAD, WE, WE HAD LIKE THE, THE 10 STEPS WITH THE, UH, TEXT ALL READY TO GO.
AND THEN WE WERE ASKED BY COUNCIL TO GO BACK AND COME BACK WITH THE TOP 25.
AND WHEN WE DID THAT, IT WAS LIKE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT DATA TO BASE THAT OFF OF.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY - THAT'S WHY THE SURVEY HAPPENED.
SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA
[IV.4. Discussion regarding the Welcome sign on 1431.]
ITEM, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE WELCOME SIGN ON 1431.IS THERE SOMEONE IN PARTICULAR WHO, UM, WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT? UM - I DON'T KNOW WHO REQUESTED THAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHO I, I PUT, ADDED THIS TO THE AGENDA, TO BE HONEST.
I THOUGH MAYBE IT WAS YOU, MICHAEL.
NO? JANICE? JANICE? KLVB, RIGHT? THE, NO? WELL - YEAH.
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TALKING ABOUT? IT SAYS ON 1431, WELCOME SIGN ON 1431.I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THERE IS, IS THERE? YEAH.
SO THE NEW ONE, THE GCAA PROJECT.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHO SUBMITTED THIS.
THIS GOT, UH, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.
I DID NOT PUT IT ON THERE MYSELF.
IF NO ONE HAS ANYTHING - THE, THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS THERE'S SOME TALK OF, UM, UH, MR. TILLMAN WHO OWNS UP WHERE BROOKSHIRE BROTHERS IS BEING WILLING TO FUND A NICER, BIGGER, GRANDER SIGN COMING INTO LAGO VISTA.
BUT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT, NO DETAILS AT ALL.
IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME THEY WANNA REDO THE CORNER SIGN OR THEY WANNA PUT SOME BIG WELCOME TO LAGO ACROSS.
MY, MY QUESTION IS THE S - THE LOCATION ITSELF.
I'M L- LEARNING AND PICKING UP AS I GO ALONG THINGS FROM DAVID, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THERE IS A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
I'M NOT SURE WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE MAINTENANCE TO KEEP THAT SIGN AND KEEP THAT AREA UP.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF IT THAT'S JUST GROWN UP IN WEEDS.
AND I WAS GONNA SEND MY GUYS OUT THERE TO CLEAN IT UP, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA STEP ON TOES AND JUST SEND THEM OUT THERE WITHOUT HAVING SOMEBODY SAY, "YEAH, SURE, GO AHEAD AND DO THAT." THE FLOWERS AND THE FLOWER BEDS ARE KEPT UP NICELY, BUT THE SURROUNDING AREA, THEY MULCHED IT AND IT'S JUST, IT'S THIS HIGH IN WEEDS NOW.
AND I WAS JUST - THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
I DO KNOW THAT THE SIGN ITSELF AND THE PLANTS, THE, THE ACTUAL GCAA PROJECT IS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS TAKEN CARE OF BY THE, UH, CONTRACTOR.
AND AFTER THAT, THEN THE CITY WILL TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE AS PER AGREEMENT.
BUT WOULD IT BE OUT STEPPING OUT OF BOUNDS IF WE WENT UP THERE? I, I DON'T KNOW.
AND ALSO, Y'ALL MAY BE INTERESTED IN, WE OF COURSE WON THE SECOND GCAA AWARD THE CITY DID THIS PAST YEAR AND WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PROJECT VERY MUCH LIKE THE FIRST ONE GOING IN ON THE OTHER END OF TOWN.
AND WE'VE PICKED OUT A SITE FOR THAT AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT DONE.
SO THAT'S, SO WE'LL HAVE KIND OF MATCHING SIGNS.
SO THIS WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF AROUND THE CORNER? YEAH, BUT TO MARBLE FALLS.
IT'LL BE QUITE, QUITE A WAYS OUT.
IT'S, OH YEAH, WAY, WAY PAST TO SARAH AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER AREA OUT THERE AND YEAH.
BUT I, I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN FIND OUT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S TXDOT PROPERTY, SO.
[IV.5. Discussion regarding the upper field at the Sports Complex.]
ITEM WAS SOMETHING IKE SUBMITTED, BUT HE'S NOT HERE.AND IT WAS A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE UPPER FIELD AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
AND, UM, I'M ASSUMING HE MIGHT HAVE MEANT THE PACKET THAT GOT SUBMITTED.
UM, I THINK HE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE I SUBMITTED THE PACKET, BUT I THINK HE WAS JUST WANTING TO MAYBE GET AN UPDATE OR UNDERSTAND.
HE, IT, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE COVERED THAT EARLIER.
I MEAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO IT, I MEAN, UM - YEAH, GO AHEAD.
I'M BRIAN PINNELL WITH NORTH SHORE LITTLE LEAGUE, PRESIDENT, UM, OF THE NEW BASE- BASEBALL LEAGUE HERE IN TOWN.
UM, IKE HAD REACHED OUT TO ME EARLIER TO SEE IF WE HAD ANY CONCERNS WITH UPPER FIELD AND, AND THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
UM, MY ONLY COMMENTS TO HIM WERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND LVUBS FOLLOW THE, THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT'S, OR THE FIELD USAGE AGREEMENT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE, UM, THAT LVUBS EXERCISE ITS FIRST RIGHT OF RE- REFUSAL, UM, BY SUBMITTING A CALENDAR YEAR SCHEDULE OF FIELD USAGE.
AND THEN BY MY READING OF THAT AGREEMENT, AFTER THEY'VE SUBMITTED THEIR CALENDAR YEAR SCHEDULE, ANY OPENING, ANY OPEN TIMES ARE RESERVABLE BY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THAT'S ALL I WOULD, UM, ASK OF THE CITY AND THE PARKS AND REC.
I DID, I DID SEE YOUR COMMENTS IN THAT EMAIL, UH, BACK TO IKE.
I THINK THEY WERE YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU JUST - YEAH, I JUST TEXTED IT TO.
YEAH, YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T WANNA GET INTO A, UM, A, A, A SITUATION WHERE LIKE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THIS IS SIMILAR, I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS HAPPENING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD JUST BE A BLANKET RE- RESERVATION - CORRECT.
FOR, YOU KNOW, EVERY TUESDAY FROM THE, FOR THE WHOLE
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AFTERNOON AND NOBODY SHOWS UP.SO MY, YEAH, MY, MY, OUR, OUR READING OR OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE FIELD USAGE AGREEMENTS GIVES LVUBS FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL.
THEY GET TO PICK THEIR SCHEDULE.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELD.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT THAT FIRST RIGHT OF, OF REFUSAL, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELD.
UM, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I, I MEAN, WE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT, BUT I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FIELD SHOULD INCLUDE THEIR WATER AND UTILITY USAGE.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S, IN MY MIND, THE TERM MAINTAIN INCLUDES WATERING THE FIELD.
I THINK THE, UM - SO THEY SHOULD PAY FOR THAT.
HUH? I DON'T, I THINK THE CITY PAYS FOR THAT, DON'T, DON'T THEY? YEAH.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S COVERED - WELL...
OH, THAT'S THE, THE NEW AMENDMENT REQUIRES THEM TO PAY THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WAS JUST FROM THE LAST WEEK OR TWO WOULD HAVE THEM PAY FOR THE WATERING OF THE FIELD.
SO, BECAUSE IT, IT GETS WATERED MORE THAN ONCE A, ONCE A WEEK.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, SO THAT, THAT'S JUST OUR MAIN CONCERN THAT, THAT, THAT THE FIELD IS RESERVABLE FOR THOSE TIMES THAT LVUBS IS NOT, NOT UTILIZING IT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WAS MADE 25 YEARS AGO INITIALLY.
UM, THAT'S HAD REALLY NO ADDENDUMS TO IT.
AND SO, YEAH, ON THE, IN THE CONTRACT, IT DOES SAY FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL.
THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY OTHER LEAGUES THAT HAVE REQUESTED.
IT KIND OF LAYS OUT A GENERAL PROTOCOL OF HOW TO REQUEST THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUEST USAGE THROUGH THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY WORK WITHIN OUR SCHEDULE IF IT'S OPENING.
UM, I THINK THAT IF THERE IS WORDING SPECIFICALLY FOR AN ANNUAL, THAT'S LIKE UNREALISTIC BECAUSE WE HAVE SEASONS.
SO I CAN'T PROJECT WHAT MY SPRING USAGE OR LIKE SAY IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I WILL KNOW WHAT MY SPRING USAGE IS, BUT I WON'T KNOW WHAT MY FALL USAGE IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN HELD A REGISTRATION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TEAMS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME WORDING THAT IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD NOW WITH ANOTHER LEAGUE IN THE CITY AND WORK, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE AMENDED BEYOND JUST US COVERING EVERYTHING.
BECAUSE ALSO, IF WE'RE GONNA BE OPENING IT UP TO ALLOW OTHER ENTITIES TO USE THE FIELD JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THAT BEFORE, UM, WHY WOULD WE BE NOW HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL WATERING, ALL EVERYTHING WHEN IT'S GONNA BE OPENED UP TO OTHER ENTITIES? AND THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS OR HANDLE, UM, DAMAGES THAT ARE DONE BY OTHER ENTITIES OR, YOU KNOW, NOT MAIN- MAINTAINING IT OR CLEANING IT UP THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? SO I JUST THINK IT'S A VERY OLD CONTRACT.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP AND REALLY EXPLORE THAT OPENING IT TO OTHER ENTITIES, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE COVERED MORE, MORE THOROUGHLY IN THE CONTRACT.
I THINK THAT'S WHY MAYOR SOM HAD SUGGESTED, UM, THAT WE KINDA GET A POW-WOW TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND WITH THE NEW LEAGUE WITH YOU GUYS, BECAUSE I KIND OF AGREE IF THERE'S MULTI- MULTIPLE ENTITIES USING IT, THEN EVERYONE HAS SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.
AND WE STILL HAVE TO SORT OUT THE WHOLE U - WATER UTILITY PIECE OF IT AS WELL AND GET MORE SPECIFICITY ON THAT.
AND NICOLE WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US PUT SOME OF THAT TOGETHER.
AND THEN LIKE IN THE CONTRACT, LIKE WE BUILT THOSE CONCESSION STANDS.
SO IN THE, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, LIKE THOSE CONCESSION STANDS ARE OUR USAGE ONLY.
WE FILL THEM, WE SUPPLY THE STUFF.
THERE'S BATHROOMS. THE BATHROOMS ARE THERE LOCKED INTO THE CONCESSION STANDS.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES THAT I THINK NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT HOW WE MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY.
AND ALSO LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER FIELDS TOO.
SO LIKE IF THOSE ARE BEING U - NOT UTILIZED ALSO.
JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT FIELD DAMAGES, UM, ALL OUR LEAGUE IS FULLY INSURED UP TO 1.25 MILLION DOLLARS IN, IN FACILITY DAMAGES.
UM, THAT'S, I'VE ALREADY PROVIDED THAT DOCUMENTATION TO THE CITY.
THE CITY OF LAGO VISTA IS, IS THE BENEFICIARY OF THE, OF THE INSURANCE.
UM, THAT'S HOW WE RENT OR WE RESERVE SUNSET.
AND SINCE UPPER FIELD IS CITY OWNED PROPERTY, IT WOULD EXTEND TO UPPER FIELD AS WELL.
UM, I GUESS IF THE CONCESSION STANDS ARE PRIVATE USE, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, THE, I GUESS THE SPORTS FLEX OR THE CITY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, CLARIFY THAT IF, IF THE CONCESSION STAND IS PRIVATE USAGE OR A PUBLIC USE FACILITY, INCLUDING THE BATHROOMS. I HAVE A QUESTION, KAREN, THEN MAYBE THE NEXT ACTION STEP IS THAT YOU'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MAYOR TOM TO HOLD A DISCUSSION ON OR NO? NO, WE'RE WORKING, UM, ACTING CITY MANAGER JOY IS
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GONNA SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH CHRISTIE INITIALLY AND NICOLE'S DOING SOME RESEARCH TOO TO PULL TOGETHER SOME OF THE FIGURES.AND I THINK HE'S PLANNING THAT IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
I THINK IT'S THE 27TH IS WHEN WE SET THAT.
UM, SO HE HAD THE TIME TO DO THE RESEARCH AND GET THE DOCUMENTS.
AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT SETTING THE MUTUAL MEETING AFTER THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S ALREADY ON ITS WAY TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME ANSWERS.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
SO THE, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE, UM, NEXT
[IV.6. Discussion regarding funds used for Parks from the 2024 CO Bond.]
ITEM AND, UH - ALMOST DONE.YES, WE'RE GETTING THERE, FOLKS.
UH, DISCUSSION, THIS WAS ONE MARK BROUG UP, DISCUSSION REGARDING FUNDS USED FOR PARKS FROM THE 2024 CO BOND.
SO MARK, IF YOU WANNA ADDRESS - SURE.
I WENT BACK, UM, AND DID A LITTLE DIGGING OF THE, UM, THE 2024, UM, CO BOND, WHICH, UH, DOES NOT, AT THE TIME, DID NOT HAVE TO GO OUT TO, UH, VOTERS.
UM, IT WAS STRICTLY A, UH, COUNCIL ACTION.
UM, THAT MAY CHANGE, HOPEFULLY IT'LL CHANGE WITH THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE, UH, CHARTER.
SO I WANTED TO SEE OF, UH, THE, THE JUSTIFICATION OF THIS, AND I'M GONNA READ THIS LITERALLY WORD FOR WORD, UM, JUST THREE SENTENCE OF IT, THREE SENTENCES OF IT.
UM, IT'S ADVISABLE TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, THE CO PART OF IT, IN THE AMOUNT OF 23.465 MILLION DOLLARS, WE'LL CALL IT 23 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS INCURRED OR TO BE INCURRED BY THE CITY FOR, ONE, THIS IS THE MONEY SHOT THAT I THINK, UH, HOW IT RELATES TO US HERE, CONSTRUCTING, IMPROVING, AND/OR RENOVATING CITY PARKS.
SO WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT WAS PUT IN OR, UH, PUT IN FOR APPROVAL, IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT, AND IT'S A ROMAN NUMERAL ONE, UM, THAT CITY PARKS WAS LISTED FIRST.
THE REST YOU'RE ALL GONNA BE FAMILIAR WITH, EX - IMPROVING, EXPANDING, CONSTRUCTING CITY STREETS, DRAINAGE, SIDEWALKS, UM, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, LIGHTING.
UH, THREE WOULD BE IMPROVING, EX - UH, EXPANDING, CONSTRUCTING, RENOVATIONS TO THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. UM, FOUR WOULD BE PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT TO INCLUDE POLICE RADIOS, PAYMENT OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
UM, MY SCREEN'S CUTTING THIS OFF.
UM, LEGAL ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURAL, FISCAL FEES, UM, WITH THE COSTS OF ISSUING THESE CERTIFICATES.
SO I STARTED THINKING 23 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
AND I KNOW THE WATER SYSTEM IS EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S LIKE, I CAN'T THINK OF WHERE THIS MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON PARKS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LIKE LITERALLY UPFRONT.
AND IT'S, IT IS, TO BE FAIR, IT HAS BEEN, UM, SPENT ON PARKS.
BUT I WENT THROUGH AND, UH, I WENT BACK TO, UM, WHERE ARE WE AT HERE? I WENT BACK TO THE...
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'LL JUST READ OFF OF MY NOTES BECAUSE IF YOU EVER GOT ONLINE AND, AND LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, BUDGET SPREADSHEET THAT'S OFF OF THE, UH, CITY'S WEBSITE, GOOD LUCK.
IT IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO FIND OUT ANYTHING OR WHAT IT WAS SPENT ON.
THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST KIND OF THESE SUMMARIES.
SO THE POOL, NOW I'M NOT SAYING THEY HAVEN'T SPENT MONEY ON THE POOL.
THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, GOTTEN THE LIFEGUARDS AND ALL THAT.
BUT ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, TO THE POOL, ZERO.
NOTHING IN THE LAST SEVERAL - THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REMEDIATION DONE AND REPAIRS DONE.
BUT IS THAT AN IMPROVEMENT? WELL, I THINK, YEAH, THAT'S MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT AND NOT JUST THE REPAIRS.
I KNOW MULTI- MULTI-YEAR ISSUES WITH WATER LEAKAGE FROM THE PIPES, WATER LEAKAGE FROM THE POOL, REDOING THE POOL.
AND THEN MORE RECENTLY YOU GUYS PAINTED AND STUFF.
BUT I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD CALL THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING AN IMPROVEMENT.
UM, YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE THE, UH, THE ACTUAL, UM, AMOUNT SPENT ON THE POOLS, UH, UM, HAS B - HAS FLUCTUATED BETWEEN, I THINK, 30 AND 50,000 DOLLARS A YEAR IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING, OR IS IT HIGHER? YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHEN YOU GO INTO THE, GO INTO THE ACTUAL BUDGET, IT'S REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS MONEY IS ACTUALLY GONE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW - I, I WOULD JUST SAY I'M LOOKING NOW, IF YOU LOOK FURTHER DOWN THE BUD- BUDGET, THE PDF VERSION STARTING PAGE 158, UM, VICTOR HAD PUT TOGETHER A SUMMARY OF WHERE THE 24CO, KIND OF THE CURRENT FUNDING POSITION, UM, AND THEN THE ALLOCATION ACROSS PROJECTS.
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NOT - AND, AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING PARK SPECIFIC THERE, TO BE HONEST.BUT WE CAN ALWAYS ASK, WE CAN ASK THE QUESTION, RIGHT, OF...
IT'S PRIMARILY BEEN AROUND, UM, THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE PROJECTS, BUT NOT PARKS.
UM, SUNSET, IT SEEMS LIKE SUNSET GOT THE VAST MAJORITY OF IMPROVEMENTS, AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WERE, YOU WON'T FIND IN THE BUDGET.
YOU CAN JUST SEE HOW MUCH WAS SPENT IN, IN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND 26.
SO I'M THINKING THAT'S PROBABLY PUTTING IN THE, THE PARKING LOT.
UM, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE DRIVEWAY.
I THINK THIS YEAR, THE 314K, UM, OF 26 IS THE ACTUAL DRIVEWAY AND THE ADA WALKWAYS.
SO I, I HAVE A FEELING, OR MAYBE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, UH, OF THE ADAS, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE RESTROOMS. UM, TURN BACK WAS 40,000 FOR TWO YEARS TOTAL.
I THINK THAT WAS MATCHING FUNDS.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WAS USE IT OR LOSE IT.
SO WE PRETTY MUCH HAD TO, HAD TO SPEND THAT.
POCKET PARKS WERE, WERE, UM, SPENT...
IN 2025, POCKET PARKS, UM, WERE BUDGETED AND THE ACTUAL AMOUNT WAS $25,000.
WHERE THAT GOT SPENT, I HAVE NO CLUE.
SO, BECAUSE THE ONLY TWO POCKET...
I MEAN, YOU, YOU'VE GOT A POCKET PARK AT BOWDEN.
UM, I DON'T THINK $25,000 HAS BEEN PUT IN THERE.
IT WAS NEVER NAMED A POCKET PARK UNTIL RECENTLY.
SO, I MEAN, BUT THESE AREN'T BUDGETED.
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ACTUALLY GOES ON THAT BUDGET LINE.
UM, AND THEN THIS YEAR, THIS IS KIND OF A PROJECT, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA COME OUT OF THE, OF THE GENERAL FUNDS PICKLEBALL COURT RESURFACING, $95,000.
SO OUT OF A GRAND TOTAL OF 23 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, I CAN ONLY COME UP WITH ABOUT $700,000 THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SPENT ON IMPROVE...
WELL, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK.
CONSTRUCTING, IMPROVING, OR RENOVATING CITY PARKS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I QUESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW IMPORTANT ARE PARKS TO THE CITY, IS MY QUESTION.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO MONEY FOR THIS, NO MONEY FOR THAT.
UM, THE, UM, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN KINDA LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUSHED OFF, PUSHED OFF, PUSHED OFF.
TO BE FAIR, IN THE, UH, CIPS...
THOSE COME A LITTLE BIT LATER IN HERE.
THERE ARE TWO, UM, TWO CIPS SET UP FOR, UH, 26, 27.
UM, THESE WOULD BE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS.
FOR 26, 27, THERE IS, UM, I'M SORRY, FOUR.
TREE MITIGATION PLANNING, 73, 70, 750 DOLLARS.
UH, FOR DAWN PARK, UM, UH, $150,000 FOR WHATEVER PHASE ONE MIGHT BE.
FOR THE BOWDEN POINT WALKWAY, UH, $137,000.
AND THIS ONE BE, THIS ONE BEWILDERS ME.
SOME R, FOR SOME REASON, AIRPORT RUNWAY COMES UNDER THE PARK'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
AND I'M, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT JIVES, BUT 47,5 AND 26, 27, AND $600,000 NEXT YEAR, 27-28.
SO I REALLY DON'T, UM, I, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE NUMBERS ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, BEING SPENT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON PARKS.
WELL, THAT'S WHY THIS YEAR'S DIFFERENT.
IT'S THERE TO BE INVESTED, BUT WE GOTTA - YEAH.
UM, THE ONE QUESTION CONFUSING ME IS AIRPORT RUNWAY.
HOW'S THAT PARK RELATED? I, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S UNDER THE 26 TO 31 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
YEAH, I THINK, UM, THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT WERE DOING SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE UP THERE.
THE LARGER INVESTMENT THOUGH IS MORE SUBSTANTIAL, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT LARGER INVESTMENT IS STILL UNDER PARKS, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT'S BEEN GROUPED - YEAH.
TRADITIONALLY, SO THEY'VE JUST KEPT IT THAT WAY IN THE CIP.
THAT'S NOT DETRACTING FROM OR TAKING FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET.
AND, AND, AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
E- EVERYTHING UP UNTIL THE, THE, UH, CIPS ARE, ARE TAKEN FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR THE PARK FUND, PARKLAND FUND.
UM, THE, UM, THE TREE PLANNING, THE DAWN PARK, DAWN CIRCLE PARK, AND BOWDEN POINT IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALL FROM, UH, ARE SCHEDULED TO BE, UH, FUNDED BY THE TREE MITIGATION FUND.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU GET ONLINE, LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, GOOD LUCK.
Y- YOU WILL SP - YOU CAN SPEND HOURS ON IT, SEARCHING AROUND, HUNTING AROUND, AND NONE OF IT HAS SPECIFICS.
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SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH, THIS IS KIND OF SPECIFIC, BUT IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT DON PARK WAS A, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED NEW PARK OR DIDN'T KNOW THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, BOWDEN POINT IS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN A WALKWAY WITH THAT MONEY, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? IT'S JUST A NUMBER.SO I GUESS THAT, UH, YEAH, IT BRINGS ABOUT SOME GOOD QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY GOING TO IMPROVE, BUT, UH, AND THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, I'M, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MOVE ON SOME THINGS, BUT, UH, BUT IT DOES HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT, UM, THE BOND WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE PARKS AS A PRETTY MAJOR COMPONENT AND IT'S UP TO NOW - I, I THINK SEVEN...
YEAH, I THINK 700,000 IN IMPROVEMENTS IS PALTRY.
FOR A 23 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR CEILING.
THAT'S A CONSIDERATION HOPEFULLY AS COUNCIL GOES FORWARD.
I MEAN, CERTAINLY THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY VOTE ON A BOND IS EXPECTING THOSE ITEMS. NEVER WENT TO THE PUBLIC.
OH, THIS ONE WAS THE - THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION.
IT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON, NATHAN, YOU KNOW, SO.
AND IT, IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING FOR YEARS AND THE STORY'S ALWAYS, "OH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
WE HAVE TO PUT INTO INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, WATER, WASTE, WATER." AND THEN 15 YEARS AGO, NINE YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO, THIS YEAR, STILL THE SAME STORY.
SO THAT'S BEEN MY FRUSTRATION.
SO I THINK I SEE THESE AS CLEAR WINS BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO PRESENT AN ORGANIZED VISION PROJECT PLAN, IF YOU WILL, FOR BOWDEN POINT FOR DAWN CIRCLE AS TWO EXAMPLES.
UM, THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE BEGINNING TO DO ON THE, THE BIKE TRACK, LEVERAGING THE BONANZA PROPERTY.
FINALLY, WE HAVE A GREAT PLAN FOR THAT, BEGINNING TO PULL THAT TOGETHER.
UM, I THINK YOUR COMMITTEE WILL PLAY A MORE IMPORTANT ROLE IN THAT AND PULLING ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TOGETHER AND EVEN BEING ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER AROUND WHAT KIND OF CITY PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OR FUNDING SOURCES CAN HELP SUPPLEMENT THE CITY BUDGET.
AND THEN COME TO COUNCIL WITH MORE FULLY FORMED PLANS VERSUS $15,000 PER YEAR FOR POCKET PARKS, WHICH YOU CAN'T EVEN BUY LIKE A SWING SET FOR THAT MUCH MONEY, RIGHT? SO THE MONEY NEVER GOT LEVERAGED, NEVER GOT SPENT.
SO I, I'M VERY POSITIVE GOING FORWARD.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT STILL GONNA BE A BATTLE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ARE JOB NUMBER ONE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M MORE POSITIVE NOW THAN I'VE BEEN IN A WHILE.
GOES BACK TO 2020, 22, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
UM, I, I CAN, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE PERSPECTIVE.
THIS IS WHY LIKE THE MASTER PLAN'S SO IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT YOU GUYS ARE TAKING MORE ACTIVE ROLE AROUND SOME OF THESE OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND PLANNING AROUND THAT AND PULLING IT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THE MORE OF THAT BACKGROUND WORK WE CAN DO, THEN THE MORE POWERFUL THE PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO, TO MAKE THE CASE FOR IT.
SO YEAH, SO I THINK I'M ENCOURAGED BECAUSE I THINK PRAC'S ROLE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER NOW, SO.
WELL, HOPEFULLY WE GET THE FUNDING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.
AND I THINK, UH, LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, JUST ONE LAST LITTLE FOOTNOTE, I THINK ALL BUT ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS HAS BEEN ENCUMBERED.
SO I THINK IT'S ALL, ALL SPOKEN FOR, BUT, UH, THE LAST TWO, 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE LAST ITEM SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE.
[IV.7. Discussion regarding sponsorship and grant opportunities.]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSSION REGARDING SPONSORSHIP AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.OF COURSE, WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE BIKE OPPORTUNITIES AND MAR- MARLENE, YOU HAD SOME IDEAS ON THAT, RIGHT? I WAS JUST GONNA REPORT THAT I'VE BEEN, UM, SEARCHING FOR DIFFERENT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT ERIC FROM THE EDC CAME TO OUR LAST PRAC - UH, PRAC COMMITTEE MEETING.
SO I'M TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH HIM SO WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OTHER, UH, UM, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
I CREATED MY OWN EXCEL SPREADSHEET TO MAKE SURE TO OUTLINE AND IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES COULD BE.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, KLB, ARE YOU ALREADY MOVING AND FILING FOR SF510C3? UH, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY ACTION ON THAT, BUT WE, WE WILL BE.
THAT IS GREAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GONNA OPEN NEW AVENUES TO REALLY TAP INTO SOME OF THESE GRANT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
AND THERE ARE A COUPLE AND I, I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FOR 2027, WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK FURTHER IN COLLABORATION AND REALLY MAKE SURE WE CAN GO AFTER THOSE FUNDS.
UM, AND NOT JUST RELY HEAVILY ON BONDS AND OTHER KIND OF MAYBE
THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, THERE IS, UM,
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I THINK WE, UM, DID YOU ALL SEE THE EMAIL? THERE'S, IT'S JUST 1000K, BUT, UM, IT'S A GRANT OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE LCRA.UM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY FORMAL DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE MASTER PLAN AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, UM, A PROJECT ITEM FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BUT WITH THAT, THAT WAS MY REPORT BACK ON THAT.
I KNOW PEC CAN BE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE AS WELL WITH, UM, I KNOW IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, MANY A WALKWAY HAVE GONE UNDER POWER LINES AND, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SUPPORT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE POWER COMPANIES.
SO, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THAT WORK AND, UH, WE'LL CERTAINLY NEED TO PURSUE THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THIS, UM, UPCOMING, UH, BIKE PATHS AND TRAILS AND TRYING TO CONNECT THE CITY.
SO, UM, THAT SHOULD BE THE FINAL ITEM UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT GRANT.
SO WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN AT, UH, OH MY GOSH.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING.